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Posted on 01/17/2008 1:28:24 PM PST by shrinkermd
Testosterone levels start to drop for most men in middle age. For those wanting to start their testosterone decline sooner than that, getting married may help.
Married men have lower testosterone levels than single guys. A recent study among the Ariaal people in Kenya showed that unmarried men had higher testosterone levels than men with a single wife. And men with two or more wives had even lower testosterone than those with one.
It's estimated that two million to four million American men have a significant testosterone deficiency and that less than 5% of them are getting treatment.
Low testosterone may lead to loss of body hair, sleep disturbance, sweats, depression, impaired thinking, lower bone mass and strength, fatigue and weak bones. Some signs are more subtle. Decreases in sex drive, energy, motivation, initiative, aggressiveness and self-confidence are other signals. Testosterone levels can be measured with a blood test.
I discovered one of my patients was low on testosterone after he fell during a minor mishap and unexpectedly broke his forearm. He turned out to have osteoporosis due to low testosterone. He developed type 2 diabetes around the same time. Adult onset diabetes in men is also associated with low testosterone.
Carrying extra weight around the middle and a drop in muscle mass were warning signals that became clear after the fact. Low testosterone levels are increasingly prevalent and often under diagnosed by the medical community. It's one of those chronic things that can drag on for years without much beyond vague symptoms that a guy might wonder about but not come in over. Doctors often overlook it because other important and more pressing health problems.
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Funny how their testosterone levels go up when a mistress is available.
Time for Hillary to open her Lock Box.
It’s undiagnosed because the nanny state teaches us that testosterone and steroids are bad.
(A law brought to us by RINO GBush I)
HUH???? No wonder the Islamofacists are so crazy....
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8 posts? 8 posts? Guys we’re slipping. It took 8 posts for the first Dr. Strangelove reference!
LOL! I expected to see it at number 2...:)
I agree entirely.
I read just today how rock stars are taking HGH (now labeled a steroid, by the way...) can give you a healthy complexion and good muscle tone late into life. And then I wonder why the hell we are promoting hatred of this stuff????
>>Decreases in sex drive, energy, motivation, initiative, aggressiveness and self-confidence are other signals.<<
Nothing that can’t be fixed by hard liquor!
Guess I don't have to worry yet. I have noticed no decrease in my sex drive and neither has the wife, if anything I have an increase.
My energy, motivation, initiative, and aggressivness is also near record levels, just ask my coworkers.
My self confidence has not been a problem since I was 22.
I must be a testosterone pump since I'm now almost 50.
Would the same be true for females? Does the estrogen level decline after engaging in the act of marriage?
NASTY!
I don’t know what that did to my testsoterone level, but it sure took away my will to live.
The key to the city here is having a lass in the neighborhood who waits until the lad has gone to bed before she enters the bedroom and prepares for the night on her own behalf. I’m fifty-eight and never tire of the ritual. I’m sure the wife, barely by junior, thinks I’m a lech; but, it says right here, she would destroy me with sarcasm if she ever thought my interest flagged in the slightest. So far it hasn’t.
Where's John Edwards when we need him? (He could bring a Class Action suit against wives for causing lowering of husbands' testorsterone levels!)
Should be worth zillions, I would think.....
LOL /sarc
Thanks for the pic. Just turned my ‘sex drive’ into a ‘sex stall and roll backward down the hill.’
Because it doesn’t work and it causes all kinds of other health problems.
We all hate you.
Decreases in sex drive, energy, motivation, initiative, aggressiveness and self-confidence are other signals.<<
Nothing that can’t be fixed by hard liquor!
I have found that vast quanititeis of the bourbon Knob Creek sure fixes me up right quick in overcoming those above described ailments. It also lowers blood sugar thus helping type 2 diabetes. Or was it the sex that lowers blood sugar? Oh well, I enjoy both.
I agree. My office staff just caught me trying to gouge out my eyes with a Bic pen
The effects of low testosterone were measured by intense medical monitoring of GOP Senators....
Besides...all that snorting and screaming "faster you big stallion, faster!!" wakes the kids.
(A law brought to us by RINO GBush I)
Sad to say but there is a lot of truth in that statement.
From what I have observed, a female’s testerone, increases as they get older....
ROTFLMAO! That is probably true!
Damn right, as males testosterone declines, female testosterone rises.
Trick is to get the doctor to write a note.
So do my coworkers. ;^)
I had it...saw a P.A. and she blew me off said I was too young. I told her to humor me and check, she did and I’ve been steadily improving with my health all around. I tried the gel on the skin, worthless...got the injections, noticed improvements within 2 weeks.
Don't bet on that. Sex drive is NOT necessarily the first thing to "go". One unmentioned symptom is that low testosterone can cause irregular heartbeat, which is what I had. Get a blood test, and you will KNOW. And for those whose levels ARE low---the preferred treatment is Androgel (other forms of testosterone used for treatment are NOT detected by blood test, so you're "flying blind" in treatment). With Androgel, you know and can control precisely what your "free testosterone blood level" is.
Excuse me, but it most certainly DOES work. And I think the jury is still out as to whether it causes any health problems or not. A lot of physicians take it themselves. I don't, because I'm still looking at the data.
When you "tried the gel on the skin", was it "Androgel", and did you have follow-up blood tests to see what the actual blood levels were??? You may simply have not been getting enough to do the trick. The stuff used in injections doesn't show up in blood tests (methyl derivative, not "real" testosterone), so your only diagnostic is "how you feel".
This is precisely the condition that the doctor claimed he was treating in Chris Benoit.
“With Androgel, you know and can control precisely what your “free testosterone blood level” is.”
And you can put it on your wife and her sex drive goes through the roof.
Which is great until she grows a beard.
“Would the same be true for females? Does the estrogen level decline after engaging in the act of marriage?”
No, but once married, a womens’ jaws atrophy in a pecular manner, making it very difficult for them to to suck on . . popcicles.
LOL, you jerk. But you are funny!
Yup....kept going up and up on the androgel, and not getting the results, both in blood levels and lesser symptoms (mainly lethargy, depression).
Bot once I took injections, I started out at I think it was .5 ccs...eventually up to 1 cc and blood levels went up and symptoms improved. (BTW, I got testosterone cypionate, and the Doc checked my testosterone levels regularly. Along with I might add, liver function tests, because that has to be monitored as well.)
I’m off it now, have been for months, but I might need to get checked. But since I suffer from seasonal depressive disorder...it’s hard to say.
Then again that may be a misdiagnosis in and of itself because of misdiagnosed (or more properly missed) “hypogonadism” as it’s called.
Which is another misnomer, cause people think of testicular shrinkage, which isn’t the case... it’s less testosterone production.
OK, but I have none of the other symptoms and I have a full physical done every year, including stress test with EKG.
The wife doesn't need it.
Interesting. The derivatives I was taking by injection and later by "dissolve under the tongue" lozenges, didn't show up on blood tests. I think it both cases that was methyltestosterone. I already get regular liver checks due to taking statins.
At any rate, the Androgel works for me, and I would suggest that anyone considering supplementation be sure to seek out a testosterone derivative that CAN be adjusted by blood test.
Which undoubtedly means you don't need it. I was only pointing out that there are other symptoms involved than the stereotype "loss of sex drive" that may be indicative of the problem. A blood test will tell you for certain.
Sorry, but I don’t see it as magic...in essence, I have noted an increase in aggressiveness....
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