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Andean Crops Cultivated Almost 10,000 Years Ago
Discover Magazine ^ | 1-15-2008 | Michael Abrams

Posted on 01/17/2008 3:55:35 PM PST by blam

Andean Crops Cultivated Almost 10,000 Years Ago

by Michael Abrams

Archaeologists have long thought that people in the Old World were planting, watering, weeding, and harvesting for a good 5,000 years before anyone in the New World did such things. But fresh evidence, in the form of Peruvian squash seeds, indicates that farming in the New and Old Worlds was nearly concurrent. In a paper the journal Science published last June, Tom Dillehay, an anthropological archaeologist at Vanderbilt University, revealed that the squash seeds he found in the ruins of what may have been ancient storage bins on the lower western slopes of the Andes in northern Peru are almost 10,000 years old. “I don’t want to play the early button game,” he said, “but the temporal gap between the Old and New World, in terms of a first pulse toward civilization, is beginning to close.”

The seeds aren’t the only things that support the argument. Dillehay also found evidence of cotton and peanut farming and what seem to be garden hoes; nearby are irrigation canals. What puzzles him is why the ancients of the Nanchoc Valley would make the switch to farming from hunting and gathering when a walk of just an hour and a half would bring them to a forest filled with nutritious foods. Some clues point to contact with outsiders and the exchange of foods and other products. The squash is not native to the area, and tools made from exotic cherts and jaspers from the highlands can be found in the same ruins. But there are also other factors, including the need for more food, both to feed a growing population and to use for ceremonies and other gatherings. “The general pattern,” Dillehay says, “is that there’s a technological, socioeconomic cultural package that indicates something unique and interesting took place.”


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 10000; agriculture; andean; animalhusbandry; crops; cultivated; dietandcuisine; godsgravesglyphs; huntergatherers
I think we have many archaeological/anthropology suprizes waiting in South America.
1 posted on 01/17/2008 3:55:36 PM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv
GGG Ping.

I think we've covered this before.

2 posted on 01/17/2008 3:56:34 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam

Discussion of this recently in “Archaeology” magazine, I think. I’m very fond of potatoes and quinoa.


3 posted on 01/17/2008 4:01:01 PM PST by Tax-chick ("How inscrutable are His judgments and how unsearchable His ways!")
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Oh B.S. The world is only 6000 years old, how can anyone believe this story?


4 posted on 01/17/2008 4:13:16 PM PST by Beefeater
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To: Tax-chick
I’m very fond of potatoes and quinoa.

We likes taters, too, Precious. ;o) I've never tasted Quinoa. I'll have to get some!

5 posted on 01/17/2008 7:06:01 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: blam

YEC INTREP


6 posted on 01/17/2008 7:14:45 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: SuziQ

Try your local health foods store. Quinoa is incredibly nutritious. You can use it like rice in salads or pilafs.


7 posted on 01/17/2008 7:21:46 PM PST by Tax-chick ("How inscrutable are His judgments and how unsearchable His ways!")
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To: Tax-chick; SuziQ

Quinoa, lost crop of the Incas, finds new life

8 posted on 01/17/2008 7:43:24 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam

Seed

Cooked

Quinoa


9 posted on 01/17/2008 7:46:22 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; 49th; ...

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Thanks Blam. I think you're right about having covered it before, but hey, the researchers on the topic are obviously out standing in their field.

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10 posted on 01/17/2008 9:46:22 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv; blam

warning: lots and lots of huge images - vast areas of agricultural fields and canals.

http://www.realatlantis.com/canalsgallery.htm

They must have been growing crops here for a very very long time, and feeding millions of people.


11 posted on 01/17/2008 11:30:44 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Really neat site.


12 posted on 01/18/2008 6:16:49 AM PST by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Thanks. Excellent pictures...there are many, many suprises waiting in South America.


13 posted on 01/18/2008 7:40:17 AM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam
I think we have many archaeological/anthropology suprizes waiting in South America.

Yeah. It's funny how a species that walks slowly, and speaks thousands of different mutually incompressible languages can abruptly and simultaneously "discover" agriculture world wide...

14 posted on 01/18/2008 7:41:47 AM PST by null and void (Conservatives are tired of being sucked up to every 4 years and stabbed in the back for the next 3.)
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To: null and void
Rainforest Researchers Hit Paydirt (Farming 11K Years Ago in South America)

An origin of new world agriculture in coastal Ecuador (12,000 BP)

15 posted on 01/18/2008 7:52:16 AM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: null and void
Yeah. It's funny how a species that walks slowly, and speaks thousands of different mutually incompressible languages can abruptly and simultaneously "discover" agriculture world wide...

The species must first discover one of these.


16 posted on 01/18/2008 8:28:14 AM PST by ASA Vet
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To: ASA Vet

Ah yes. In the book there were scores of them world wide...


17 posted on 01/18/2008 8:34:07 AM PST by null and void (Conservatives are tired of being sucked up to every 4 years and stabbed in the back for the next 3.)
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To: blam
“I don’t want to play the early button game,” he said, “but the temporal gap between the Old and New World, in terms of a first pulse toward civilization, is beginning to close.”

This also tends to invalidate Jared Diamond's Guns, Germs and Steel thesis.

18 posted on 01/18/2008 8:39:38 AM PST by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: denydenydeny
"This also tends to invalidate Jared Diamond's Guns, Germs and Steel thesis."

This book is a bit too PC for me.

19 posted on 01/18/2008 10:38:16 AM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam

Squash grown 10,000 years ago in Peru
Yahoo | Thu Jun 28, 6:09 PM ET | by Randolph E. Schmid, AP Science Writer
Posted on 06/28/2007 9:39:04 PM EDT by Fred Nerks
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1858039/posts

Trying To Fathom Farming’s Origins
The Columbus Dispatch | 8-14-2007 | Bradley T Lepper
Posted on 08/15/2007 1:42:04 PM EDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1881608/posts


20 posted on 01/21/2008 11:50:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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To: ASA Vet
The species must first discover one of these.

The game plays a lot better if they have white dots on them.

21 posted on 08/22/2008 3:05:53 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: blam

What is your opinion of Diamond’s “Guns germs and steel?”


22 posted on 08/22/2008 3:08:05 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: Sawdring
"What is your opinion of Diamond’s “Guns germs and steel?”"

A reasonal read except that he blames the world's problems on the White peope and the west. He's to PC and anti-American for me.

23 posted on 08/22/2008 3:40:12 PM PDT by blam
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