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Thompson Cries Moral Foul on Huckabee Group
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Posted on 01/17/2008 5:17:01 PM PST by Def Conservative

Republican candidate Fred Thompson called moral foul on former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee for recent push-polling calls to South Carolina residents.

"I'm somewhat surprised that someone who espouses the values the Governor talks about all the time would find himself in the situation ... this is clearly improper activity that is going on right under his nose," Thompson said.

The Thompson campaign says they have been receiving complaints of push-polling calls to South Carolina residents with false information about the former Tennessee senator's position on partial birth abortion and illegal immigration. They campaign says the calls are being paid for by a group who supports Huckabee, who also push-polled in Iowa prior to the caucuses.

At a campaign stop in Prosperity, South Carolina, Thompson did some investigating of his own and asked how many people had received a push-polling call. About a dozen people raised their hands.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.abcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: dirtytricks; fredthompson; huckabee; sc2008; thompson
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1 posted on 01/17/2008 5:17:04 PM PST by Def Conservative
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To: Def Conservative

Why somewhat surprised? For someone campaigning as a christian, old Huck has had no problem bending his ethics to help his campaign.

Speaking of ethics. Has there been any updates on those 14 ethics violations while he was governor of Arkansas? Has that been debunked or ignored?


2 posted on 01/17/2008 5:20:45 PM PST by Laptop_Ron (It takes a villager to raze a village)
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To: Def Conservative

“I’m somewhat surprised that someone who espouses the values the Governor talks about all the time would find himself in the situation ... this is clearly improper activity that is going on right under his nose,” Thompson said.


Don’t worry Fred, I am sure that Huckaliar will sign a pledge against such things right after the vote Saturday.


3 posted on 01/17/2008 5:22:03 PM PST by Grunthor (Huckaliar - “I think that the rational approach is to find a way to have a pathway to citizenship)
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To: Def Conservative

Good second report on this, although it’s only a blog. First the Washington Post blog, and now the ABC blog. Maybe word will start to get out to the voters in South Carolina.

But you might think this was important enough to go on their main web sites, like the fake push poll on Mitt’s Mormonism.


4 posted on 01/17/2008 5:22:19 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Laptop_Ron

LOL. I’ve always thought that as a pastor Huck could’ve done more to help the downtrodden than as a president, he should know this.


5 posted on 01/17/2008 5:23:58 PM PST by Def Conservative (Huckabee called Republicans against his tax increases shiites.)
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To: Def Conservative

**Republican candidate Fred Thompson called moral foul on former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee for recent push-polling calls to South Carolina residents. **

For the truth, Fred. Make him (Huckabee) tell the truth.


6 posted on 01/17/2008 5:24:06 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Politicalmom; 2ndDivisionVet; jellybean

FRed Ping!


7 posted on 01/17/2008 5:24:56 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you....Run, FRed, Run. :^)
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To: Def Conservative

He has no room to talk. Out of his own mouth, not others, he has distorted Huckabee’s record.


8 posted on 01/17/2008 5:25:32 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Def Conservative

Nice of them to give Huckabee’s people a chance to respond.

Fred now enjoys the MSM spoiler roll. MSM wants McCain so they help Fred.

Beware Huck Derangement Syndrome


10 posted on 01/17/2008 5:26:23 PM PST by Soliton (Dr. Soliton suggests Ciallis for HDS. It 's no cure, but it will distract you for 36 hours.)
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To: Def Conservative

To the Huckster supporters on FR. Your candidate is pure scum who will never be supported by conservatives. A vote for Huckster is a vote for Hillary or Obama. Get used to it because the majority of us will never vote for this worthless piece of crap.


11 posted on 01/17/2008 5:27:09 PM PST by Abbeville Conservative (Bill Clinton and Mike Huckabee...if you've seen one Arkansas governor then you've seen them all.)
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To: Def Conservative

I’m pretty certain Jesus would never push-poll.


12 posted on 01/17/2008 5:27:31 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (" Nobody likes weepy meat." -- Mayor Quimby)
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To: Grunthor

He says they are coming from an outside group of supporters who he has no control over.

If he can’t persuade these so called “outside groups” that support him to stop these polls, what makes him think he can persuade all the Dems to go along with all his constitutional amendments?


13 posted on 01/17/2008 5:27:57 PM PST by Def Conservative (Huckabee called Republicans against his tax increases shiites.)
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To: Def Conservative

SC voter here. I’ll proudly be voting for FRed on Saturday.

I’ve been push polled by Huckabubba, phoned at least twice a day by McManiac, phoned by a Huckbubba worker wanting me to vote for him (I set him so straight his head was spinning as he hung up the phone), etc., etc.

I’ll be glad when Saturday gets here :)

Of course then we start all over again with the RATS. That should be fun!


14 posted on 01/17/2008 5:28:23 PM PST by upchuck (Attention Senator Clinton: Lying Is Stupid When The Truth Is So Easy To Find)
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To: Def Conservative

Look at the bright side. Thanks to mean ole Huckabee now the fredheads will have a good excuse when Fred finishes behind Ron Paul again.... :)


15 posted on 01/17/2008 5:29:21 PM PST by kjam22 (see me play the guitar here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noHy7Cuoucc)
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To: Abbeville Conservative

BIG TIME BUMP!!!!!!!


16 posted on 01/17/2008 5:29:45 PM PST by Grunthor (Huckaliar - “I think that the rational approach is to find a way to have a pathway to citizenship)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
He has no room to talk. Out of his own mouth, not others, he has distorted Huckabee’s record.

I'd love to debate this one with you. Please trot out these distortions.

17 posted on 01/17/2008 5:30:25 PM PST by Ingtar (Romney didn't support President Bush's tax cuts in 2003, earning praise from Barney Frank)
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To: Def Conservative

Is push polling illegal?


18 posted on 01/17/2008 5:30:30 PM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Ingtar

Don’t expect a response, Huckabee supporters make up facts just like their lying socialist pastor.


19 posted on 01/17/2008 5:31:40 PM PST by Def Conservative (Huckabee called Republicans against his tax increases shiites.)
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To: pissant

In some states, I think it is in South Carolina.


20 posted on 01/17/2008 5:32:09 PM PST by Def Conservative (Huckabee called Republicans against his tax increases shiites.)
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To: Ingtar

Saying Huckabee is part of the Blame America First crowd is a distortion.


21 posted on 01/17/2008 5:32:54 PM PST by kjam22 (see me play the guitar here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noHy7Cuoucc)
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To: Abbeville Conservative

You have summed it up and made my day! If the country is going to be destroyed by a socialist agenda, I’d rather it be by a liberal Democrat than a faux conservative Republican.


22 posted on 01/17/2008 5:33:29 PM PST by Def Conservative (Huckabee called Republicans against his tax increases shiites.)
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To: Def Conservative

OK - so with all the Huckabee bashing going on (and I am one of them) - what are you all going to do if he somehow wins the nomination???? Come on now - be honest?

Will you continue to bash him - thus further weakening him in the General Election (and helping the DemonRats into the Whitehouse)?

Will you drop the bashing and pretend to like him - preaching his worthiness and fine qualities as a Conservative candidate and a wonderful Christian man?

Will you just quiet up and vote for him, but not discuss much?

Will you vote for a 3rd party/none-of-the-above/anyone but him or Hillobama?

I’m sorry, but the slate of viable candidates leaves a WHOLE lot to be desired. Some, I just cannot even hold my nose and vote for, others will be painful, but I might be able to cast a vote for them... and the only one that is still “in” the race that I would have zero difficulty voting for - isn’t even on the Primary ballot in my state (Duncan Hunter).

Isn’t that called being disenfranchised? Where is Al Sharpton and The Rev. Jacka$$on? My rights be viomalated....


23 posted on 01/17/2008 5:34:52 PM PST by TheBattman (LORD God, please help us to elect a Godly and patriotic man for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: kjam22

He didn’t say Huckabee was a part of it, he said he comments were like those in that camp, and his “arrogant, bunker mentality” comments definitely were.


24 posted on 01/17/2008 5:35:11 PM PST by Def Conservative (Huckabee called Republicans against his tax increases shiites.)
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To: Def Conservative

That’s exactly right. Let the Democrats take the fall and in 2012 we can hopefully come back with a conservative to clear up the mess.


25 posted on 01/17/2008 5:37:15 PM PST by Abbeville Conservative (Bill Clinton and Mike Huckabee...if you've seen one Arkansas governor then you've seen them all.)
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To: Def Conservative
Saying our presidents policy is arrogant and a bunker mentality is not the same as the blame america first crowd. It's a distortion. And by the way... it was a bunker mentality. My opinion is our president should have kicked their butts a long time ago, instead of "planting democracy".
26 posted on 01/17/2008 5:38:07 PM PST by kjam22 (see me play the guitar here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noHy7Cuoucc)
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To: TheBattman

I’ll stay home or write in Bugs Bunny. Won’t vote for a guy who’ll set conservatism back 100 years.

Speaking of Al and Jesse, there good friend Cornell West (leader of Christian Socialist movement and race baiter) LOVES Huckabee, called him the “real deal” out of all the candidates...on both sides.


27 posted on 01/17/2008 5:38:26 PM PST by Def Conservative (Huckabee called Republicans against his tax increases shiites.)
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To: Laptop_Ron

I wondered what happened to those stories about the fancy gifts Huckabee received and in return appointed the gift givers to government positions. Isn’t there a law against that? Fred nor his staff will pursue this considering it to be a personal attack but people need to know the facts about this high moral character. Soon. Tomorrow at the latest.


28 posted on 01/17/2008 5:38:55 PM PST by I. Ben Hurt
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To: upchuck

I was listing the phone calls I’ve been getting and left out the strangest. Although I don’t know for sure a politician was involved.

The phone rang. I picked it up and said, “Hello.” Silence, which isn’t unusual if it’s a recorded call. Then this sexy woman’s recorded voice said, “We’re sorry for the inconvenience. This call needs to be answered by an answering machine.” How strange is that? New one on me :)


29 posted on 01/17/2008 5:39:20 PM PST by upchuck (Attention Senator Clinton: Lying Is Stupid When The Truth Is So Easy To Find)
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To: Def Conservative
He didn’t say Huckabee was a part of it, he said he comments were like those in that camp,

Kinda Clintonesque..... kinda like the meaning of the word is.. huh?

30 posted on 01/17/2008 5:39:29 PM PST by kjam22 (see me play the guitar here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noHy7Cuoucc)
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To: Abbeville Conservative

Yup and his name is Bobby Jindal...I just hope he’s watching this cycle and doesn’t screw up.


31 posted on 01/17/2008 5:39:53 PM PST by Def Conservative (Huckabee called Republicans against his tax increases shiites.)
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To: TheBattman

Not vote or write in Fred. If the liberal dummies in our party are willing to have him represent the party of Reagan then they can deal with the fallout. Conservatives will be heard and not marginalized.


32 posted on 01/17/2008 5:39:54 PM PST by Abbeville Conservative (Bill Clinton and Mike Huckabee...if you've seen one Arkansas governor then you've seen them all.)
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To: pissant

Yes it is illegal - South Carolina law prohibits automated calls for political purposes with a penalty of 30 days in jail and a $200 fine for each violation, but such calls are commonplace. Fred’s campaign is collecting names of people who received these calls and is turning them over to the authorities. I received one of these calls - it was way over the line and offensive.


33 posted on 01/17/2008 5:40:29 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: TheBattman

I’ll immediately call for impeachment hearings.


34 posted on 01/17/2008 5:41:15 PM PST by txflake (Yes there were WMDs /Thompson/Netanyahu '08 / Yes you will vote against Clinton)
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To: kjam22

If you can’t see the difference between saying Huckabee was part of the camp rather than saying similar things as the blame America first crowd I can see why you support Huckabee.


35 posted on 01/17/2008 5:41:24 PM PST by Def Conservative (Huckabee called Republicans against his tax increases shiites.)
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To: Def Conservative

I see the difference. It’s just like disputing the meaning of the word IS. Exact same thing. Telling the country in a debate that what huckabee is saying is just like the blame america crowd.... ohhhhhh but I didn’t say he was one of them.... It’s disingenuous. It’s a distortion. You asked for a distortion. Why am I surprised that you would not accept it when one is presented?


36 posted on 01/17/2008 5:43:30 PM PST by kjam22 (see me play the guitar here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noHy7Cuoucc)
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To: kjam22
It’s called a rhetorical juxtaposition, FRiend. Seeing as how the Governor likes to juxtaPOSE himself with the images of our Lord as often as possible, I’m wondering why you have an issue with it?
37 posted on 01/17/2008 5:45:08 PM PST by brothers4thID (Fred Thompson for President!)
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To: Def Conservative

The new governor of Louisiana. One worth keeping our eyes on although he would only be in his third year if he were to make a run in 2012. That’s not much experience. Plus, I have no idea what his political philosophy is. He may be more liberal than Huckster and McShame. Time will tell.


38 posted on 01/17/2008 5:46:19 PM PST by Abbeville Conservative (Bill Clinton and Mike Huckabee...if you've seen one Arkansas governor then you've seen them all.)
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To: brothers4thID

It’s a distortion of the truth. It’s politics. I’m not complaining about it. But the question was name one. You guys would be more genuine if you simply acknowledged that .... “yeah Fred hit him hard there. He might have stretched it a little”. It’s politics. It’s not like it makes him a bad guy. But it’s a distortion none the less.


39 posted on 01/17/2008 5:47:34 PM PST by kjam22 (see me play the guitar here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noHy7Cuoucc)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Horse pucky


40 posted on 01/17/2008 5:47:43 PM PST by clamper1797 (Fred Thompson - Duncan Hunter for POTUS and Vice Potus in either order)
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To: kjam22

It’s not a distortion. I’ll take it further than Fred did, though. Huckabee’s foriegn policy “paper”, ghostwritten as it was, was a load of armchair general garbage and put him, in my mind, in the blame America first crowd.


41 posted on 01/17/2008 5:50:27 PM PST by brothers4thID (Fred Thompson for President!)
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To: Abbeville Conservative
To the Huckster supporters on FR. Your candidate is pure scum who will never be supported by conservatives. A vote for Huckster is a vote for Hillary or Obama. Get used to it because the majority of us will never vote for this worthless piece of crap.

moms coming home - better get off the computer before she gets mad

42 posted on 01/17/2008 5:50:33 PM PST by Revelation 911
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To: Revelation 911

Tell mom to call the whammmmbulance.


43 posted on 01/17/2008 5:52:10 PM PST by Abbeville Conservative (Bill Clinton and Mike Huckabee...if you've seen one Arkansas governor then you've seen them all.)
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To: brothers4thID
It was a distortion of the truth. Clearly if a person really listens to what all the blame america first crowd says about our foriegn policy, Huckabee is not aligned with that group. To imply that he is, and hinge whether or not Fred distorted the truth on some lawyerly reading of his words...... is just not genuine.

I like huckabee.... but you guys need to know.... I don't like him as much as many fredheads like Fred. Huckabee isn't my savior. But for many fredheads Fred is their savior.

44 posted on 01/17/2008 5:53:54 PM PST by kjam22 (see me play the guitar here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noHy7Cuoucc)
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To: kjam22

Fred’s words first = He believes we have an arrogant foreign policy and the tradition of, blame America first.

Huckabee:

Apologized for the Bhutto assassination as if it were America’s fault.

Buys into the global warming myth that blames America first for natural cycles in temperature.

Criticized President Bush for having a bunker mentality in lines that could have come from any of the Democrats.

Blamed America for the plight of those here ilegally to the point of wanting us to pay for them to attend school here.


Who penned these words?

American foreign policy needs to change its tone and attitude, open up, and reach out. The Bush administration’s arrogant bunker mentality has been counterproductive at home and abroad. My administration will recognize that the United States’ main fight today does not pit us against the world but pits the world against the terrorists.

The United States’ strategic interests as the world’s most powerful country coincide with its moral obligations as the richest. If we do not do the right thing to improve life in the Muslim world, the terrorists will step in and do the wrong thing.

Whereas our failure to tackle Iran seems to be leading inexorably to our attacking it, our failure to tackle al Qaeda in Pakistan seems to be leading inexorably to its attacking us again.



He even wants to sit down with Iran and discuss their grievances with us.


45 posted on 01/17/2008 5:54:46 PM PST by Ingtar (Romney didn't support President Bush's tax cuts in 2003, earning praise from Barney Frank)
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To: Laptop_Ron

It’s politics, Fred. Look it up. Also see prostitution.


46 posted on 01/17/2008 5:55:52 PM PST by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: TheBattman

I will vote for a 3rd party/none-of-the-above/


47 posted on 01/17/2008 5:55:58 PM PST by Ingtar (Romney didn't support President Bush's tax cuts in 2003, earning praise from Barney Frank)
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To: Abbeville Conservative

Good point. If it comes down to that we must remember when they say if we don’t vote for Huck we are voting for Hillary we can remind them who spoiled the pot first.


48 posted on 01/17/2008 5:57:10 PM PST by snippy_about_it (I'm a Friend of Fred, FRedneck! Fred08.com)
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To: Ingtar
Apologized for the Bhutto assassination as if it were America’s fault.

But if you read his actual statement it is clear that he simply used the word apology instead of sympathy. A speaking error. He made no comments that implied it was America's fault. NONE. You just know the spin you read. And SPIN is all about distortion.

49 posted on 01/17/2008 5:57:53 PM PST by kjam22 (see me play the guitar here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noHy7Cuoucc)
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To: brothers4thID
http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20080101faessay87112/michael-d-huckabee/america-s-priorities-in-the-war-on-terror.html

Huck’s blame America first essay. (my personal favorite is how Iran misbehaved because the Pres put them in the axis of evil, lol)

50 posted on 01/17/2008 5:58:57 PM PST by roses of sharon
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