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Paul's Pausse
The New Republic ^ | January 17, 2008 | James Kirchik

Posted on 01/18/2008 5:13:56 AM PST by steadfastconservative

Since my article "Angry White Man" was posted on our website last Tuesday, many have asked who the author of Ron Paul's newsletters could have been. Published since at least the late 1970s--and at their most incendiary from 1987 to 1996--these newsletters have at times been filled with conspiratorial warnings about the Trilateral Commission and Bilderberg Group, animus towards black and gay people, and sympathy for right-wing, anti-government militia movements. Many libertarian bloggers have intimated or concluded that the man chiefly responsible for this content was Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr., Paul's former congressional chief of staff and the founder of the Ludwig von Mises Institute in Auburn, Alabama. John Robbins, who succeeded Rockwell as Paul's chief of staff, released an "Open Letter to Lew Rockwell" on the Internet last week. "This week, for the third time, the puerile, racist, and completely un-Pauline comments that all informed people say you have caused to appear in Ron's newsletters over the course of several years have become an issue in his campaign," Robbins wrote. "Your callous disregard for both Ron and his millions of supporters is unconscionable." Rockwell, however, in an interview conducted before "Angry White Man" was published, denied that he had any role in writing the newsletters.

Hours after my article appeared on the TNR website, the Paul campaign released a statement. "The quotations in The New Republic article are not mine and do not represent what I believe or have ever believed," Paul said. "I have never uttered such words and denounce such small-minded thoughts." . . .

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The article goes on to say that the Paul initially denied knowing who the author of those newsletters was but that his campaign will soon "finger" Rockwell as the author. But either way, whether or not Paul knew who wrote the newsletters, and whether or not Rockwell wrote them, Paul published them and he is still responsible for their content. It is disingenuous, to say the least, for Paul to plead ignorance here. How on earth can we elect as President a man like Paul who, as the publisher of newsletter, was either ignorant of his subordinates' activities or unable to control them? What kind of administration would such a weak man run? The truth, of course, is probably that Paul was not ignorant about the author or the content of those newsletters and that he approved of both. Either way, this whole episode proves that Paul is unfit to be President.
1 posted on 01/18/2008 5:13:57 AM PST by steadfastconservative
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To: steadfastconservative
Key line of your post: "This week, for the third time, the puerile, racist, and completely un-Pauline comments that all informed people say you have caused to appear in Ron's newsletters over the course of several years have become an issue in his campaign," Robbins wrote.

They were either his newsletters or they weren't. If they were (which this guy Robbins admits), he was responsible for the contents that went out under his name.

2 posted on 01/18/2008 5:25:09 AM PST by RightFighter
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To: steadfastconservative
I don't think Paul's a racist, but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of his supporters were, or at least very resentful, bitter people.

And given the context of the times of those newsletters, I don't hold it against him for failing to speak out. I remember back in 1996 feeling very sympathetic to Randy Weaver --I still do -- who could be called a racist.

If Paul wasn't so weak on the WOT, he might be my favorite candidate. As it is, he is the only Pub I am fairly certain I wouldn't vote for in the general election.

3 posted on 01/18/2008 5:26:10 AM PST by Tribune7 (Dems want to rob from the poor to give to the rich)
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To: steadfastconservative

Paul had a responsibility to stop the publication that had his name on it, but he allowed it to go on. This reminds me of how he handled the earsmarks in his district. Proposing the spending - then voting against it. Having these articles in his newsletter - then years later saying the articles did not reflect his personal view point.

Paul cannot be trusted, folks!


4 posted on 01/18/2008 5:35:57 AM PST by Martins kid
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To: Tribune7
"If Paul wasn't so weak on the WOT, he might be my favorite candidate."

I don't want to start a flame war, but consider carefully your statement. Perhaps there is something deeper in it that may be worth surfacing. The question you have to ask is this:

Is Ron Paul a dyed-in-the-wool pacifist like many in the anti-war left? Or is he opposing not war per-se but more the instigation and conduct of this particular war?

For me it comes down to this.

If Congress had passed an unambiguous declaration of war naming specifically Islamic radicals and countries that shelter and support them as the target, would a President Paul conduct aggressively a campaign against those named targets, even if he disagreed with the judgement of the Congress?

For my money the answer to this question would be yes.

So let me suggest that your ambivalence about Ron Paul may reflect at least in part disappointment with the facile and ambiguous conduct of the WOT by those currently in power.

Just something to consider.

5 posted on 01/18/2008 5:37:59 AM PST by trek
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To: steadfastconservative
Again, folks, this is The New Republic we're talking about. I know Ron Paul's not exactly the most sane man, and this was the height of his bizarreness, but why didn't this come out and be addressed during his '88 Presidential campaign when it was still fresh?

How soon we forget the Scott Beauchamp story... something stinks.
6 posted on 01/18/2008 5:39:03 AM PST by jmyrlefuller
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To: steadfastconservative
The quotations in The New Republic article are not mine and do not represent what I believe or have ever believed

Of course. That's why you allowed them to be published under your name, year in and year out, and why you took the subscription money such sentiments earned.

You and Cindy Sheehan's boy toy have been thick as thieves for decades and you throw him overboard now, Ron?

Dishonesty and disloyalty are vying for the title of Ron Paul's most distinguishing characteristic.

7 posted on 01/18/2008 5:40:15 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: steadfastconservative
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!!POPCORN TIME!!

I could see Ron Paul as President, should a further attack be made on New York (or elsewhere), claim he had no control over those responsible for security in his administration, and knew nothing of their actions. It would be in lockstep with his reaction here.

8 posted on 01/18/2008 5:40:49 AM PST by bcsco (Huckleberry Hound - Another dope from Hope!)
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To: mnehrling; SJackson; lormand; ejonesie22; wideawake

The popcorn is in the popper...


9 posted on 01/18/2008 5:44:52 AM PST by bcsco (Huckleberry Hound - Another dope from Hope!)
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To: steadfastconservative
Lets see how the Ministry of Silly Explanations spin this one...


10 posted on 01/18/2008 5:47:42 AM PST by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: steadfastconservative
Here is the letter:

Dear Lew,

You have now had three opportunities –1996, 2001, and 2008 — to prove that you are a friend of Ron Paul and freedom, and you have failed to do so each time.

This week, for the third time, the puerile, racist, and completely un-Pauline comments that all informed people say you have caused to appear in Ron’s newsletters over the course of several years have become an issue in his campaign. This time the stakes are even higher than before. He is seeking nationwide office, the Republican nomination for President, and his campaign is attracting millions of supporters, not tens of thousands.

Three times you have failed to come forward and admit responsibility for and complicity in the scandals. You have allowed Ron to twist slowly in the wind. Because of your silence, Ron has been forced to issue repeated statements of denial, to answer repeated questions in multiple interviews, and to be embarrassed on national television. Your callous disregard for both Ron and his millions of supporters is unconscionable.

If you were Dr. Paul’s friend, or a friend of freedom, as you pretend to be, by now you would have stepped forward, assumed responsibility for those asinine and harmful comments, resigned from any connection to Ron or his campaign, and relieved Ron of the burden of having to repeatedly deny the charges of racism. But you have not done so, and so the scandal continues to detract from Ron’s message.

You know as well as I do that Ron does not have a racist bone in his body, yet those racist remarks went out under his name, not yours. Pretty clever. But now it’s time to man up, Lew. Admit your role, and exonerate Ron. You should have done it years ago.

John Robbins, Ph.D.
Chief of Staff
Dr. Ron Paul, 1981-1985

Dr. Robbins is a Christian theologian and philosopher. He has been critical of both Calvinist and Catholic paleoconservatives, and of neo-Confederates.

11 posted on 01/18/2008 5:48:51 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: jmyrlefuller
How soon we forget the Scott Beauchamp story

Scott Beauchamp had zero evidence to back up his claims.

This story has hard evidence: original editions of Ron Paul's newsletters archived at the University of Wisconsin and admitted by Ron paul to be his newsletter.

12 posted on 01/18/2008 5:48:55 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Wallace T.
Regardless of whether Lew Rockwell stops cheating on his wife long enough to claim authorship of those articles, Ron Paul cannot change the fact that he permitted them to be published under his name and that he never printed a retraction of them in his newsletter, never dismissed Rockwell from the staff of his newsletter over these statements, and that he allowed similar statements to be made year in and year out in his name.

He's wearing those newsletters.

13 posted on 01/18/2008 5:55:22 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: steadfastconservative

Answer is we can’t.

Paul is clearly hiding something.


14 posted on 01/18/2008 5:59:11 AM PST by Vanbasten
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To: wideawake
He's wearing those newsletters.

Agreed. Paul should have exercised more control over his underlings, or stayed out of electoral politics. Pat Buchanan made numerous controversial statements over the years in his columns and books, but never denied his authorship.

15 posted on 01/18/2008 6:04:57 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: trek

Since you seem to defend ru paul, how about explaining his remarks about 9-11.


16 posted on 01/18/2008 6:23:43 AM PST by sticker
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To: trek
I have no doubt that Paul is an honest man and that the reasons for his opposition to the WOT are his stated ones.

As for me, the WOT is one of the things Dubya has done right. Mistakes were made but you'd have to be as blind as a cave fish not to see the threat posed by Islamo-terrorism, and that we are much safer now than seven years ago.

And if you care about freedom, you really don't want a declaration of war unless absolutely necessary as it almost always dramatically increases the power of the executive branch i.e internment of innocent people w/o trial, restrictions on speech, government control of economic resources etc..

17 posted on 01/18/2008 6:40:09 AM PST by Tribune7 (Dems want to rob from the poor to give to the rich)
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To: steadfastconservative

“How on earth can we elect as President a man like Paul who, as the publisher of newsletter, was either ignorant of his subordinates’ activities or unable to control them? What kind of administration would such a weak man run? The truth, of course, is probably that Paul was not ignorant about the author or the content of those newsletters and that he approved of both. Either way, this whole episode proves that Paul is unfit to be President.”

That about says it all. He is either incompetent or a racist/conspiracy nut. Either way, I wouldn’t hire him for for our town’s park district board let alone POTUS. The Paul cult will continue to avoid the issue with “that’s old news”.


18 posted on 01/18/2008 7:14:34 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: jmyrlefuller

It may be The New Republic but that doesn’t change the fact that for several years Ron Paul published these newsletters and either did not know what was in them (which demonstrates negligence on his part) or knew and permitted them to published. Either way he is responsible for their content.


19 posted on 01/18/2008 7:28:51 AM PST by steadfastconservative
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To: Wallace T.
Dr. Robbins is a Christian theologian and philosopher. He has been critical of both Calvinist and Catholic paleoconservatives, and of neo-Confederates.

Robbins may be a good guy but that does not absolve Ron Paul of responsibility for articles that he published over the course of many years. Maybe Rockwell did write the articles but why did Paul publish them if he disagreed with them or found their racist content offensive? It's time that Paul came forward and accepted responsibility for his actions instead of trying to pin the blame on someone else.

20 posted on 01/18/2008 7:37:13 AM PST by steadfastconservative
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To: trek

The fact is, we’ll never really know what this guy is about, because he communicates like a mental patient.


21 posted on 01/18/2008 7:39:20 AM PST by WiseGuyF686
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To: steadfastconservative

Please see my response on post 15.


22 posted on 01/18/2008 7:39:43 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: Wallace T.

How prudent was it for Paul to run for president, knowing that sooner or later these newsletters could become an issue in his campaign? What other skeletons does he have in his closet? If he got the nomination, the Democrats would eat him alive.


23 posted on 01/18/2008 7:42:59 AM PST by steadfastconservative
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To: bcsco

He’s done as a Republican candidate, he’ll have to find a third party comfortable with this history or settle for being a Congressman. IMO Rockwell as the author is every bit as bad as the incredible excuse there were multiple, unknown authors, implying only breathtaking negligence over what is published in his name. By maintaining his relationship with Rockwell, and accepting his support, he validates the statements. Same with any other “authors” who are long time Paul supporters, which is why their identities should be made public. If the rumors are true that he’s used the newsletter mailing list for fundraising, another indication of comfort with the views of his newsletter and it’s subscribers.


24 posted on 01/18/2008 8:17:51 AM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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To: steadfastconservative
How prudent was it for Paul to run for president, knowing that sooner or later these newsletters could become an issue in his campaign?

I suspect Paul lives in a bubble in which he believes he represents the norm in American thinking. He's associated with these people for so long, he's insulated himself from the real world.

From our standpoint it was not a prudent move. From his, it was of no concern. At least, that's what I suspect.

25 posted on 01/18/2008 8:21:24 AM PST by bcsco (Huckleberry Hound - Another dope from Hope!)
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To: Wallace T.

I can’t disagree with Dr. Robbins, but Ron Paul has the same responsibility. He should have given a complete explanation, including the authorship of the articles years ago, and should now. Probably wouldn’t change many minds, but it would give his supporters something to rely on.


26 posted on 01/18/2008 8:23:52 AM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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To: SJackson

He’s certainly marginalized himself in this election. What will have my attention is his congressional election and how that evolves. As for a third party candidacy, he’s been offered the candidacy of the Constitutional Party. Let’s see what he does with that offer.


27 posted on 01/18/2008 8:24:36 AM PST by bcsco (Huckleberry Hound - Another dope from Hope!)
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To: steadfastconservative
How prudent was it for Paul to run for president, knowing that sooner or later these newsletters could become an issue in his campaign? What other skeletons does he have in his closet? If he got the nomination, the Democrats would eat him alive.

He clearly doesn't consider it an issue.

28 posted on 01/18/2008 8:25:11 AM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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To: SJackson

“He’s done as a Republican candidate”

Agreed. I would think that has turned off most normal supporters by being connected to the newsletters and turned off many racist and conspiracy nut supporters by denying that he agrees with them. The only thing left must be a core of Paul cult. Watching his primary percentages drop 2% with every primary show he’s fading into the GOP woodwork.


29 posted on 01/18/2008 8:29:30 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: bcsco

If Texas want’s him, I guess that’s their choice. What the GOP does if he runs third party remains to be seen. Some states don’t allow party crossovers like that, Libertarian Presidential candidate and Republican Congressional candidate, don’t know about Texas.


30 posted on 01/18/2008 8:33:53 AM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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To: steadfastconservative
Should we go and dig up what The New Republic is saying about Thompson, Hunter, Romney, et. al. and just accept their account as the truth?

If Paul really was a Leftist why on earth is The New Republic trying to hard to destroy him?

31 posted on 01/18/2008 8:34:26 AM PST by ksen ("For an omniscient and omnipotent God, there are no Plan B's" - Frumanchu)
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To: wideawake
Have you bought your subscription to TNR yet?

It's nice to see a liberal rag getting so much play over here on FR.

32 posted on 01/18/2008 8:35:39 AM PST by ksen ("For an omniscient and omnipotent God, there are no Plan B's" - Frumanchu)
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To: wideawake
He's wearing those newsletters.

Yeah, because goodness know that it doesn't matter how many times he accepts them and apologizes for them. His enemies will make damn sure they are always used against him.

How liberal of you.

33 posted on 01/18/2008 8:38:37 AM PST by ksen ("For an omniscient and omnipotent God, there are no Plan B's" - Frumanchu)
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To: ksen
How liberal of you.

Your belief that personal accountability is "liberal" illustrates how tenuous your grasp is on the concept of conservatism.

34 posted on 01/18/2008 8:40:00 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: SJackson
If Texas want’s him, I guess that’s their choice. What the GOP does if he runs third party remains to be seen.

Actually, if he drops out of the Presidential race and continues to run as a Republican for his Congressional seat will be interesting from the GOP standpoint. If he's truly done as a Repbulican, then how can they support him in that contest?

Either way; as a third party candidate, or as a Republican Congressional candidate, it seems the GOP has some decisions to make.

35 posted on 01/18/2008 8:43:29 AM PST by bcsco (Huckleberry Hound - Another dope from Hope!)
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To: wideawake
Your belief that personal accountability is "liberal" illustrates how tenuous your grasp is on the concept of conservatism.

Strawman.

I never claimed a belief that "personal accountability" is "liberal."

I did claim that hammering someone over and over and over again with cries of "racist!" even after they acknowledged the words and apologized is "liberal."

36 posted on 01/18/2008 8:43:29 AM PST by ksen ("For an omniscient and omnipotent God, there are no Plan B's" - Frumanchu)
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To: steadfastconservative
If he got the nomination, the Democrats would eat him alive.

Paul will not get the nomination. Looking at the Iowa primary, he actually won one county, Jefferson, in the southeast part of the state. Jefferson County has many residents who are Transcendental Meditation practitioners living in Fairfield and Vedic City, and the presence of Maharishi University of Management in Fairfield. In Michigan, his best county was Hillsdale County, home of nonsectarian, conservative Hillsdale College. These are clearly non-mainstream constituencies. Returning to Michigan, Paul was in the 7-8% in metro Detroit, despite the presence of a large Middle Eastern descended population that is presumably anti Iraqi War. He was only slightly above 8% in Washtenaw County, home of the University of Michigan. If Paul is in fourth place in areas with a large Arab-American presence and in college towns, there is simply no way he can win, with $25 million or $250 million in the bank.

Michael Bloomberg, please take notice.

37 posted on 01/18/2008 8:44:04 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: ksen
Should we go and dig up what The New Republic is saying about Thompson, Hunter, Romney, et. al. and just accept their account as the truth? If Paul really was a Leftist why on earth is The New Republic trying to hard to destroy him?

You are suggesting that the newsletters, requested for years but access refused by Paul, are forgeries.

If you have evidence that they're forgeries, perhaps a plot by the Wisconsin Historical Society and the university in Kansas, you should present it, you'll have an impact and bring credit on FR for rooting out the facts, as another Freeper did when he posted newsletters months before the New Republic.

Newsletters

Ron Paul: US "military is mowing civilians down in the streets"

RON PAUL ACCUSED U.S. TROOPS OF WAR CRIMES IN DESERT STORM

Ron Paul: Israel bought Jesse Helms

Ron Paul: Traitor had direct line to President Reagan

Ron Paul: Clinton didn't cut defense enough

RON PAUL ON DEFENSE SPENDING

Ron Paul supported the PLO terrorists

Of course this leaves you with the problem of why Ron Paul would put out such a weak explanation over forgeries.

If they're not forgeries, he's stuck with them, and the messenger isn't the issue.

Obviously people can come to their own conclusions about the content. I think they're racist, Ron Paul seems to agree with me, but others may not.

38 posted on 01/18/2008 8:44:15 AM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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To: bcsco; SJackson

What percentage do you guys expect Paul to get in SC?

If I remember correctly that’s a closed primary, right?


39 posted on 01/18/2008 8:45:15 AM PST by ksen ("For an omniscient and omnipotent God, there are no Plan B's" - Frumanchu)
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To: ksen
What percentage do you guys expect Paul to get in SC?

Right now Rasmussen has him at 3%.

40 posted on 01/18/2008 8:47:45 AM PST by bcsco (Huckleberry Hound - Another dope from Hope!)
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To: ksen
I did claim that hammering someone over and over and over again with cries of "racist!" even after they acknowledged the words and apologized is "liberal."

Paul still maintains that it was all somebody else's fault.

It may have been his name, and the newsletters may have listed him as editor, but he really didn't write it, he really didn't edit it and he apparently never read it, either, over the course of a decade.

A classic non-apology apology.

41 posted on 01/18/2008 8:49:17 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: ksen
Most polls have him at 5% to 6%, 5th or 6th place.

polls

42 posted on 01/18/2008 8:53:02 AM PST by SJackson (If 45 million children had lived, they'd be defending America, filling jobs, paying SS-Z. Miller)
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To: wideawake
Paul still maintains that it was all somebody else's fault.

He maintains that someone else wrote the articles in question. But he's accepted responsibility, a number of times, for what was written and has condemned the articles.

That's a little different than just saying it was someone else's fault.

It may have been his name, and the newsletters may have listed him as editor, but he really didn't write it, he really didn't edit it and he apparently never read it, either, over the course of a decade.

Maybe he didn't do any of those things. I trust him and accept his word at face value. Do you have any evidence about what his actual role was in the daily operations of those newsletters?

If you don't than you are just engaged in wild speculation and helping to smear a good man. And why? Because you don't agree with some of his politics. Nice.

43 posted on 01/18/2008 8:54:26 AM PST by ksen ("For an omniscient and omnipotent God, there are no Plan B's" - Frumanchu)
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To: ksen
I trust him and accept his word at face value.

Which word do you accept at face value? The story he told in 1996? Or the story he told in 2001? Or the story he's telling now?

44 posted on 01/18/2008 8:57:13 AM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: SJackson

I never claimed they were forgeries.

I went to the Newsletter link and there are only a couple of pages posted. Do you have a link to the full newsletters?

I’d like to see what the masthead said, if anything.


45 posted on 01/18/2008 8:58:37 AM PST by ksen ("For an omniscient and omnipotent God, there are no Plan B's" - Frumanchu)
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To: bcsco
Right now Rasmussen has him at 3%.

Is that what you think he will actually get when the votes are tallied?

46 posted on 01/18/2008 9:00:42 AM PST by ksen ("For an omniscient and omnipotent God, there are no Plan B's" - Frumanchu)
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To: steadfastconservative
I only have on issue with your post.

Let me show you, with a humble modification what I mean:

...Either way, this whole episode proves yet again that Paul is unfit to be President.

47 posted on 01/18/2008 9:02:04 AM PST by ejonesie22 (Mike Huckabee, Tithing via Taxation, the Christian Democrat way...)
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To: ksen
Is that what you think he will actually get when the votes are tallied?

I have no idea. I can't forsee the future, nor do I have confidence in polls.

48 posted on 01/18/2008 9:02:53 AM PST by bcsco (Huckleberry Hound - Another dope from Hope!)
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To: SJackson
Most polls have him at 5% to 6%, 5th or 6th place.

Is that what you expect him to get on Saturday?

49 posted on 01/18/2008 9:03:28 AM PST by ksen ("For an omniscient and omnipotent God, there are no Plan B's" - Frumanchu)
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To: bcsco

Fair enough. I wasn’t asking you to foresee the future. I was just asking what you thought.


50 posted on 01/18/2008 9:04:29 AM PST by ksen ("For an omniscient and omnipotent God, there are no Plan B's" - Frumanchu)
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