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The New Lepers (NY Post on the NY Slimes' whacko vet theory)
New York Post online ^ | Ralph Peters

Posted on 01/18/2008 10:38:17 AM PST by StarCMC

I'VE had a huge response to Tuesday's column about The New York Times' obscene bid to smear veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan as mad killers. Countless readers seem to be wondering: Why did the paper do it?

Well, in the Middle Ages, lepers had to carry bells on pain of death to warn the uninfected they were coming. One suspects that the Times would like our military veterans to do the same.

The purpose of Sunday's instantly notorious feature "alerting" the American people that our Iraq and Afghanistan vets are all potential murderers when they move in next door was to mark those defenders of freedom as "unclean" - as the new lepers who can't be trusted amid uninfected Americans.

In the more than six years since 9/11, the Times has never run a feature story half as long on any of the hundreds of heroes who've served our country - those who've won medals of honor, distinguished service crosses, Navy crosses, silver stars or bronze stars with a V device (for valor).

But the Times put a major investigative effort into the "sensational" story that 121 returning vets had committed capital offenses (of course, 20 percent of the cases cited involved manslaughter charges stemming from drunken driving, not first- or second-degree murder . . . ).

*snip*

Again, the Times' smear certainly wasn't an accident. The paper's staff is highly paid and highly experienced. Its editors know that a serious news story has to put numbers into context. But their sole attempt at context was to note that offenses by former soldiers have ticked up since we went to war.

The Times is trying to make you fear our veterans...to convince you that our military would be...a death-machine that would turn [your sons and daughters] into incurable psychopaths.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: disortion; medialies; nyslimestroophaters; nyt; oefveterans; oifveterans; smearcampaign; veterans; yellowjournalism
This is an excerpt only because it had to be -- the full article is worth your time to read.

The Old Grey Witch hates the troops - they ARE the Enemedia within.

1 posted on 01/18/2008 10:38:20 AM PST by StarCMC
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To: StarCMC

Peters was on with Bill O. discussing this...shame on the Times (again!)


2 posted on 01/18/2008 10:39:28 AM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4; freema; jazusamo; Pinkbell; RedRover
Enemedia ping -- thanks for the heads-up on this story, Cannonner.
3 posted on 01/18/2008 10:40:20 AM PST by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com; http://starcmc.wordpress.com/ - The Enemedia is inside the gates.)
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To: StarCMC
Has anyone crunched the NYT's numbers? I mean, really crunched them? I could sure use the ammo [pun intended] the next time I meet a few certain people.
4 posted on 01/18/2008 10:43:07 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: StarCMC

good for Ralph Peters!


5 posted on 01/18/2008 10:45:08 AM PST by RDTF
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To: StarCMC

I’d like to have a bell around the neck of every person working for the NY Times, so that every time the bell rings, we know a traitor is nearby.


6 posted on 01/18/2008 10:45:13 AM PST by winner3000
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To: 1rudeboy
Yes -- Move America Forward did it -- go check the link.
7 posted on 01/18/2008 10:45:24 AM PST by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com; http://starcmc.wordpress.com/ - The Enemedia is inside the gates.)
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To: StarCMC

Media was horrified at the number of American flags displayed after 9/11.

They are equally horrified that Americans have been turning out in droves to welcome our Troops home.

What they really want is the public spitting on them like in the good old days...


8 posted on 01/18/2008 10:45:41 AM PST by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: TASMANIANRED

Hey Tas — you’re right. Do you remember that commercial that ran on TV for a while — it said something like “Some things were changed on 9-11...” and the picture changes from a normal looking neighborhood street to that same street but every house had a flag on it. I LOVE that commercial.


9 posted on 01/18/2008 10:48:04 AM PST by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com; http://starcmc.wordpress.com/ - The Enemedia is inside the gates.)
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To: StarCMC

Thanks.


10 posted on 01/18/2008 10:51:00 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: TASMANIANRED

Sadly, I think you are right.


11 posted on 01/18/2008 10:54:14 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: StarCMC

....msm did the same thing after VietMam....portrayed the returning vet as a mad dog.


12 posted on 01/18/2008 10:55:44 AM PST by STONEWALLS
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To: 1rudeboy

You’re very welcome!! (and isn’t saying “thanks” in direct contrast to your screenname? LOL!!!)


13 posted on 01/18/2008 11:01:40 AM PST by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com; http://starcmc.wordpress.com/ - The Enemedia is inside the gates.)
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To: StarCMC

Don’t be fooled. It’s a trap.


14 posted on 01/18/2008 11:02:41 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: StarCMC

BFLR.


15 posted on 01/18/2008 11:03:20 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: StarCMC

...by the way here’s what Wall Street thinks of the NYT’s business sense:

http://www.marketwatch.com/tools/quotes/intchart.asp?symb=NYT&time=12&freq=1&comp=&compidx=aaaaa%7E0&compind=&uf=0&ma=&maval=&lf=1&lf2=&lf3=&type=2&size=1&txtstyle=&style=&submitted=true&intflavor=basic&origurl=%2Ftools%2Fquotes%2Fintchart.asp


16 posted on 01/18/2008 11:04:36 AM PST by STONEWALLS
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To: StarCMC

I hope Pinch and the boys are really enjoying this! Caught again!

A great article. But I thought the funniest part was that bit at the end:

“Ralph Peters is a retired Army officer who has yet to kill any of his neighbors (although they’d better keep their grass cut).”


17 posted on 01/18/2008 11:06:51 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: STONEWALLS; All
The myth of the PTSD whacked out Vietnam vet has been perpetuated for decades to the point that now everyone just believes it without questioning it's veracity. From Viper's Vietnam Veterans Pages...

And the war was reported by a self serving Media who penned stories filled with inaccuracies, deliberate omissions, biased presentations and blatant distorted interpretations. ( Television's Vietnam, The Impact of Media ) The Vietnam War became more about journalists (Dan Rather, Walter Cronkite) than about a war for the survival of liberal democracy in Southeast Asia. If only they loved their country's young and willing warriors as much as they loved their own children. The welfare of the troops and the TRUTH took a back seat to the press' sense of its own importance. Thanks to John Kerry the "Opportunist", Jane Fonda the "Communist" and Walter Cronkite and the other left wing journalists who were too swept up in their own danse macabre to even notice the murderous consequences of their own malfeasance -- or to hear the demands of simple decency.

We never lost a battle in Vietnam but we lost the war at home under color of the coward and liar.

Sounds pretty darn familiar.

18 posted on 01/18/2008 11:10:06 AM PST by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com; http://starcmc.wordpress.com/ - The Enemedia is inside the gates.)
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To: Rummyfan

BFLR??


19 posted on 01/18/2008 11:10:37 AM PST by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com; http://starcmc.wordpress.com/ - The Enemedia is inside the gates.)
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To: STONEWALLS

Looks like the Old Grey Witch is going the way of Air America. Good riddance!


20 posted on 01/18/2008 11:11:42 AM PST by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com; http://starcmc.wordpress.com/ - The Enemedia is inside the gates.)
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To: Cicero

LMBO — that WAS classic — I was hoping someone would read thru and see it!


21 posted on 01/18/2008 11:12:20 AM PST by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com; http://starcmc.wordpress.com/ - The Enemedia is inside the gates.)
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To: StarCMC
Excellent article. Please, everyone, read the whole thing.

This comes near the end:

the left's archetypal vet is the Marine colonel in "American Beauty" who, frustrated in his suppressed gay passions, murders poor Kevin Spacey

22 posted on 01/18/2008 11:12:39 AM PST by samtheman
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To: STONEWALLS
....msm did the same thing after VietMam....portrayed the returning vet as a mad dog.
With the help of "We were Ghengis Khan" Kerry.
23 posted on 01/18/2008 11:15:18 AM PST by samtheman
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To: StarCMC
At the risk of turning to anecdotal evidence - a technique much-abused by the left - I have to declare that I personally know hundreds of veterans. (Can anyone at the Times head office make that claim?) Not a single one of them has committed a crime worse than exceeding the speed limit on the Interstate.

I'm positive that no one at the Slimes head office can make that claim nor do they want to know any veterans, they're traitors all.

Great piece by Ralph Peters, thanks for posting.

24 posted on 01/18/2008 11:17:09 AM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: StarCMC

The Times is disgusting. I will be glad when they go under.


25 posted on 01/18/2008 11:18:53 AM PST by Rocky
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To: StarCMC

Bump For Later Read!


26 posted on 01/18/2008 11:32:17 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: StarCMC

Great closing line!!!


27 posted on 01/18/2008 11:36:37 AM PST by JoeGar
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To: StarCMC

28 posted on 01/18/2008 11:38:15 AM PST by Petronski ("Make all the promises you have to." --Slick Willard, 9 Jan 08)
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To: StarCMC

R.P. has been hitting it out of the park lately.


29 posted on 01/18/2008 11:41:09 AM PST by synbad600
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To: StarCMC


30 posted on 01/18/2008 11:43:35 AM PST by pabianice
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To: StarCMC
Can there be any doubt that the Left (which includes Democrats and the press) hates everything about the military. They hate the troops the most...okay, maybe they hate Bush the most...no, wait, they hate Cheney the most. Rummy?

Anyway, this huge lie that they "support the troops" has been a hard one to maintain and you know that everyone of them has ground his teeth into nubs as he/she attempt to repeat it.

31 posted on 01/18/2008 11:43:52 AM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Rummyfan

LOL — thanks!


32 posted on 01/18/2008 11:47:51 AM PST by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com; http://starcmc.wordpress.com/ - The Enemedia is inside the gates.)
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To: StarCMC

“To a darkly humorous degree, all this reflects the Freudian terrors leftists feel when confronted with men who don’t have concave chests.”
______________________________________________________________

They simply cannot comprehend the motivations of a man who would put his life on the line for his country so they treat them as aliens.

We’ve all seen the articles painting our servicemen as all being from some mysterious, impoverished Extramadura province somewhere in Cornpone Country.


33 posted on 01/18/2008 11:48:10 AM PST by sinanju
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To: Petronski

You got that right!


34 posted on 01/18/2008 11:48:16 AM PST by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com; http://starcmc.wordpress.com/ - The Enemedia is inside the gates.)
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To: StarCMC
Of course, if the Times responds at all to the storm of protests their insult to our veterans aroused, the editors will try to fudge the numbers in their favor. You just can't argue with ideologues. They lie and they cheat.

Well said. And they do it with no shame.

35 posted on 01/18/2008 11:50:41 AM PST by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: pabianice

Looks like the NYTimes will soon be ready for the pink sheets. What a perfect fit!


36 posted on 01/18/2008 12:30:23 PM PST by 6SJ7
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To: winner3000
"alerting" the American people that our Iraq and Afghanistan vets are all potential murderers

We're ALL potential murders. Come into my home at 3am and attack my family......

37 posted on 01/18/2008 1:13:28 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: All
Iowahawk: Bylines of Brutality
38 posted on 01/18/2008 1:15:03 PM PST by dighton
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To: StarCMC

I loved it too...


39 posted on 01/18/2008 1:42:05 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Media has a template...If it doesn’t fit the template they will massage the facts until they fit...even if it means outright fabrication.


40 posted on 01/18/2008 1:43:06 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: StarCMC

Ping for later


41 posted on 01/18/2008 1:55:20 PM PST by Turret Gunner A20
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To: StarCMC
An excellent reply to a story that was simply astounding in its superficiality. The actual source of the original story was an antiwar "expert" whose livelihood depends on the ability to portray veterans as damaged human beings. That the NY Times chose to give him a sounding-board was explicable only by the fact that he fits their narrative regarding the war. That they should do so on the basis of such flimsy and easily-refuted statistics speaks purely to a lack of professionalism.
42 posted on 01/18/2008 2:02:00 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: StarCMC

There is far more reason to fear the “Old Grey Witch” than to fear our vets of any era.


43 posted on 01/18/2008 2:07:29 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid ... even by congressional standards.)
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To: StarCMC

OIF vet who hasn’t murdered anyone bump.


44 posted on 01/18/2008 2:08:02 PM PST by GATOR NAVY
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To: Billthedrill
That they should do so on the basis of such flimsy and easily-refuted statistics speaks purely to a lack of professionalism.

But...but...but I thought Helen Thomas said that it was the PROFESSIONALS who had the ethics and the bloggers were the ones who didn't....? *eyeroll*

45 posted on 01/18/2008 2:37:52 PM PST by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com; http://starcmc.wordpress.com/ - The Enemedia is inside the gates.)
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To: GATOR NAVY

ROFL!! Nice!


46 posted on 01/18/2008 2:38:42 PM PST by StarCMC (http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com; http://starcmc.wordpress.com/ - The Enemedia is inside the gates.)
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To: StarCMC

You’re right. That was worth every minute spent reading.

“...reflects the Freudian terrors leftists feel when confronted with men who don’t have concave chests...”

Freakin priceless!

Although the short author bio line at the end means I could be in harm’s way, heh!


47 posted on 01/18/2008 9:55:30 PM PST by Titan Magroyne ("Shorn, dumb and bleating is no way to go through life, son." Yeah, close enough.)
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