Posted on 01/19/2008 4:24:22 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
Russia Issues Pre-Emptive Nuclear Threat
By Sky News SkyNews - 27 minutes ago
Russia's military chief of staff says Moscow would use nuclear weapons in pre-emptive strike if it felt threatened.
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General Yuri Baluyevsky said there were no plans "to attack anyone" but reasserted Russia's right to defend itself.
"To defend the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Russia and its allies, military forces will be used, including preventively, including with the use of nuclear weapons," Gen Baluyevsky said.
The remarks do not represent a change in policy for Moscow.
But they do come at a time of heightened tension between Russia and the West.
Russia is embroiled in persistent disputes over US plans for missile defence facilities in former Soviet satellite states that have joined Nato.
A row has also broken out between the UK and Russia after the director of the British Council in St Petersburg was briefly arrested.
Britain closed the council's offices after accusing the Russians of harassment.
What a bunch of paranoid simpletons.
"Precious bodily fluids...?".
This for China?
Given the population of Russia and the vast reserves of land and resources, and the huge 2000 mile plus border...
Putin is crazy with megalomania — his newly acquired power from rigged elections is gone to his head. To make matters worse, Putin has $$$$$$ Billions and real POWER to burn. Bush never should have trusted this Russkie KGB POS. ‘Nuff said.
Here's the crux, I would wager.
Putin is goose stepping Russia straight back to the Iron Curtain.
It isn’t Bush’s fault that Putin refused to rise to the place in history that he could have
Initiailly, it was appropriate for Bush to publically give Putin the benefit of the doubt to see if he’d turn into being a real leader instead of another pinko commie power-dictator. After Putin started showing his true colors, that benefit of doubt existed no more and the two of them were not close or trusting.
Putin is crazy with megalomania — his newly acquired power from rigged elections is gone to his head. To make matters worse, Putin has $$$$$$ Billions and real POWER to burn. Bush never should have trusted this Russkie KGB POS. ‘Nuff said.It's just politics. Putin derangement syndrome is just as silly as Bush DS.
The inclusion of ‘her allies’ was aimed towards us, not China, unless Russia just picked up a good stake in Taiwan.
Rattle that saber, Putin, and imagine that you matter. The Chinese know that Russia is on the way to being extinct, and they have plenty of people who will move in on your territory. You are marked for the “ash heap of history,” in the prescient words of Ronald Reagan.
Well written... with a clear-headed understanding of history.
Well, that’s one of the most incredibly dumbest things I’ve ever heard. What constitutes them being threatened? They damn sure know that any nuclear detonation is going to result in a response in kind.
How delusional for them to think that anyone would want their stupid country.
Doesn't our government disagree with Putin on Chechnya?
[The remarks do not represent a change in policy for Moscow.]
Russia is a whorehouse of those who hate the God of Israel and His Christ and have become the bullies of the world. They will start a war someday.
Gee, and they can’t understand why Europe is interested in a missle defense shield!
Thank GOd I did not fill in the bomb shelter. All I have to do is take out the stuff I put in storage 20 years ago, clean out the leaves and, perhaps, replace the canned food.
A little more needs to be added: This is yet another cog in the legacy of King Jorge......
This isn’t unusual—I believe we’ve reserved the right to do the same thing, use nukes in a first strike. It’s just unusual that they’re being so in-your-face about it...sounds like Pooty feels the need to rattle a few sabers, maybe for domestic consumption.
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These guys are serious about their imperial project. Flush with their oil money, they are emboldened.
Um....so this is a story about nothing.
Can’t imagine what Bush was SUPPOSED to do with the POS....nuke him?
No, its worse. The commies had their religion of the “dialectic” and a certainty of victory as promised by their prophets Marx and Lenin.
So, the CCCP commies would push and probe, looking to bring “true communism” one step closer to reality. But they always were ready to cool down for a while and go low profile to avoid a potentially catastrophic showdown. Why push too hard when history is on your side?
This is’nt the Soviet Union any more. Its Russia, pure and simple, playing old school Euro power games. And that school did’nt teach backing off from a bad hand and waiting until later. Simple nationalism is a much less patient and long term goal oriented beast than communism.
Actually, I think Russia has moved toward German & Italian style fascism.
“but it’s a mistake to think that Putin isn’t a rational actor. It’s an act.”
yeah thats what they said about Hitler and look where that got us. if we take him lightly it will only embolden him further.
Ping
Russia should send out a "White Paper" to declare who it's allies are. Are Iran and Syria at the top of the list?
The Israeli's took out the Iraq reactor before the fuel rods were in place to minimize radiation spread to innocents int he bombing, and so if they repeat the process, they’ll have to hurry. If they do attack Iran, Iran isn’t just going to stand by and be humiliated. They’ll want revenge because they are stark raving mad.
How the fascists work ...
Putin needs a bogey man to remain dictator of Russia. Therefore as a good little communist, to keep the Russian people in a constant state of fear he must have an enemy, real or imaginary.
It’s exactly what the Democrats have been spouting about Bush for years. Democrats don’t see a real enemy, have tried for years to convince the public that the jihads are imaginary. But in the case of the fascist Democrats the REAL enemy is glow-bull warming, hence the constant fear mongering from them and the drive bys. The results desired by Democrats is the same as Putin, you lose your freedoms and remain in a constant state of fear.
Ignoring the Democrats true intentions with the glow-bull warming hoax is a huge mistake. If you haven’t done so already, get the book “State of Fear” by Micheal Cricjton to understand better what the Democrats game plan is.
read epicenter...
Moscow would use nuclear weapons
Pelosi pics in Burka to follow.
What’s interesting is that if your fallout shelter is dug into the ground (at least ten feet under) and contains a decent way to seal out contanminants, you could survive a near-miss from a 1 MT nuclear bomb (though ground zero has to be around 1.75 miles away) and live there safely for up to 2-3 weeks with enough consumables such a water and canned food. Mind you, those shelters now find better use as tornado shelters in the US Midwest.
Undoubtedly they are, and undoubtedly this is a message to Israel...
Siberia was occupied by China some 150 or so years ago. Yep, it could happen again. No one else is paying attention to:
China: Population per sq mile roughly 100+
Siberia: Population per sq mile roughly 2
When in Russia’s thousand-year history has it not felt threatened?
THE CORRECT ANALYSIS OF RUSSIA
Communism is just another name for state capitalism. The perogatives of exploiting opportunities, realizing profit, etc. is taken out of the hands of individuals and accorded solely to the state.
In that regard, the Soviet Union was a failed enterprise. The “collapse” of the iron curtain was simply an opportunity to shed money losing assets (Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, etc.). Following that, with the benefit of a new “revolution”, Russia went through it’s own restructuring. Now, thanks to increased oil prices, we have the leaner meaner Russia, Inc. trying to be everyone’s pain in the ass.
Consider how it would’ve appeared if Bush had been wary of him from the beginning. Maybe Bush had his own personal misgivings, but it would never have stood for the American President to show them from the get-go.
That is *exactly* for China’s consumption. The west certainly doesnt have territorial ambitions towards the Russines. The ChiComs, however, could reasonably say they need ‘Lebensraum’.
It’s been a mistake from the beginning to expand NATO into the former Soviet bloc countries. Do we really nee another region that benfits from our military protection so we have to spend money on their defense and they don’t? It’s a needless provocation to do this with few benefits for the US other being able to say we are the great protectors of the world. Avoiding nation building and not being the police force of the world is why I voted for Bush but once again we were lied to.
You’re kidding, right ? The 1.6B Chinese just south of Siberia which is, by the way, mostly empty and also happens to contain an absolute treasure chest in terms of natural resources ?
Only thing that *is* stopping the Chinese from invading is the fact that there wouldn’t be all that many Chinese left afterwards to move to Siberia.
Tho, of course, what would one do 3 weeks later, is quite an interesting question.
Yep....Putin is like a Chavez with a brain.
Putin hasn't help cure that tendency in the Russians.
Makes one pine for a good 'ol drunk like Yeltsin.
Hey, no problemo man. We're gonna send Barrak to negotiate with Putin. He'll straighten Putin right up!
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