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Ron Paul, Featuring Special Guests "The Jew Haters"
Radar Magazine ^ | 1/18/08 | Nick Curran

Posted on 01/19/2008 7:54:17 AM PST by Mr. Silverback

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To: swmobuffalo
I agree.

Thumbs up!

201 posted on 01/19/2008 9:02:44 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
I’m flattered that anybody gives a crap what I said. Thank you.

Hey, if I didn't give a crap, I wouldn't be on your Nanny State ping list, FRiend.

202 posted on 01/19/2008 9:05:52 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

“Most of the Ron Paul supporters have already been given the boot here, because they crossed the line or you guys kept pinging the Mods because you were getting beat-down in discussion.”

Wrong dude, just board of base innuendo. We all have our limitations...


203 posted on 01/19/2008 10:16:13 PM PST by captain anode (78% of us FREEPERS could practice better manners.)
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To: SlapHappyPappy
I basically see it the same way. He may not be a bigot, but he’s too willing to associate with racist, anti-semites, holocaust deniers, and code pink weirdos.
204 posted on 01/19/2008 11:12:35 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Al Qaeda: enemy of civilization and humanity. Ron Paul: al Qaeda's puppet and mouthpiece.)
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To: captain anode

Thanks for the info, but I’m not the one who said what you were quoting. I’m only aware of two Paul backers whove been ejected, and I’m not sure one of them was booted for anything to do with Paul.


205 posted on 01/19/2008 11:41:23 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: captain anode

BTW...if you think this stuff is base innuendo, wait until you see to tomorrow’s thread!


206 posted on 01/19/2008 11:42:20 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Congratualations. Would you like a medal?


207 posted on 01/20/2008 6:47:02 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
I thought you'd like to take in the latest Ron Paul news is all.

You might want to work on that "thinking" some.

208 posted on 01/20/2008 6:50:56 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Cue the Ministry of Silly Explanations..."Guilt by association"..."his message appeals to them because of X"...blah, blah, blah.

Didn't take them long. They flock to threads they claim beat a dead horse so shouldn't be posted to begin with. Go figure.

209 posted on 01/20/2008 6:53:36 AM PST by bcsco (Huckleberry Hound - Another dope from Hope!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Thanks for refusing to address the salient points I've made.

You mean here Paul's Pausse Where I asked you to respond, I've repeated that request more than once since then, and you still refuse to reply? It that what you mean?

No, I'm not stalking you, Bucko, I'm simply asking for the courtesy of a reply. And will continue to do so until you have the guts to defend yourself for misstating me.

210 posted on 01/20/2008 7:02:35 AM PST by bcsco (Huckleberry Hound - Another dope from Hope!)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Interesting post on that link by somebody named "George_Redner":

NICK - You sound just like all the other tired idiots trying to call Ron Paul the same dam thing - racists, haters, anti-semites blah blah blah.... Ive know Poker Face for a long time. What they hate are criminals of ALL races.

Except in our lamestream press the criminal/antiAmerican/traitor Jews get a pass. You sound like you are a semite sensitive who sees an anti-semite behind every tree. For most of America, we are sick and tired of fools like you crying WOLF all the time.

. . .

Freedom means having the right to disagree, or think differently. You seem to be shoving all of us into your small minded box of thinking.... anti-semite anti semites are every where.... blah blah blah

And if Poker Face are racists, then I and the majority of America are racists... AMERICAN RACISTS that is. . . .

I haven't looked at Ron Paul as a candidate, but I do have a very conservative buddy who is supporting the guy. But the posts of his supporters on his sites look pretty scary.
211 posted on 01/20/2008 7:23:56 AM PST by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: tacticalogic
Congratualations. Would you like a medal?

No, the satisfaction of a job well done is enough for me.

212 posted on 01/20/2008 8:50:38 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: bcsco

Wait ntiil you see today’s thread. I’ll ping you.


213 posted on 01/20/2008 8:51:27 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: gitmo

It gets worse. I’ll ping you to today’s post.


214 posted on 01/20/2008 8:53:21 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: bcsco

ntiil = until

Not enough coffee yet!


215 posted on 01/20/2008 8:54:27 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: fortheDeclaration
So, you think JFK getting his PT boat cut in two in the blackness of the Pacfic ocean ineptness?

Have you seen the turning radius of a PT boat and the turning radius of a destroyer? See "A Question of Character: The Life of John F. Kennedy" by Thomas Reeves for full details. Reeves says Kennedy and his crew wre probably literally caught napping. That sounds like Paul's newsletter story to me.

216 posted on 01/20/2008 9:50:50 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: elhombrelibre
Ah, don’t cry, EEE. You’re the one backing the big losertarian crank.

No crying here, unless the Packers lose today.

Tim Russert even conceded that Paul will make it beyond Super Tuesday to the GOP convention.

217 posted on 01/20/2008 10:10:31 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (GIANT SUCKING SOUND AT LAMBEAU FIELD)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Show me the post where I said all of Paul's supporters are Truthers and Nazis. Heck, show me where I said most of them are.

Post #16 and post #39 of yours, bucko. You implied that Paul supporters were Troofers and Nazis.

You can kill the theme music because you just lost your wager.

218 posted on 01/20/2008 10:15:11 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (GIANT SUCKING SOUND AT LAMBEAU FIELD)
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To: Reaganite1984
Why is it so hard to return a check from an avowed neo-Nazi and white supremacist

Why give money from someone else's donation back to Black? Black's money was already spent by the campaign before it was brought to Paul's attention.

or to refuse to appear on the radio program of someone who believes that the United States government orchestrated the destruction of the Twin Towers and attack on the Pentagon

Because Jones is a syndicated radio show host, he has an audience of libertarians and populists/independents just like Rush has conservatives. His personal beliefs have no bearing on Paul.

Not all of his topics deal with wacko 9/11 conspiracy theories. He talks about privacy, sovereignty, abuse of government powers, etc. If you were ever on FR back in the late 1990s, we were talking about this stuff too.

or to reveal who penned those defamatory, racist, anti-Semitic newsletters if-as he claims-he is not the sole author?

Reports are coming out that Lew Rockewell authored the letters, but I'm not sure. But this is a dead horse. The Houston Chronicle covered this extensively in the 1990s.

219 posted on 01/20/2008 10:23:11 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (GIANT SUCKING SOUND AT LAMBEAU FIELD)
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To: BlackElk
What did the teens SAY about Dr. Demento??? Anything juicy?

ROFL. "Like, he's totally a wacko, duh!"

220 posted on 01/20/2008 10:24:12 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (GIANT SUCKING SOUND AT LAMBEAU FIELD)
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To: bcsco

I replied in that thread.


221 posted on 01/20/2008 10:25:47 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (GIANT SUCKING SOUND AT LAMBEAU FIELD)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Like that’s going to happen.


222 posted on 01/20/2008 11:00:46 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Post #16 and post #39 of yours, bucko. You implied that Paul supporters were Troofers and Nazis.

Puhleeze. The poster I was responding to in 16 was saying that we should not eject any of Paul's supporters because it would reduce the size of the coalition. Mty reference to Nazis and Truthers was intended to point out that if we keep all you Paul crazies in the name of the big tent, we have to keep some Nazis and Truthers.

As for post 39, in that I referred to "you" meaning all Ron Paul supporters. You were the one talking about Nazis and Truthers.

It seems that no matter how many times I say that I don't think all of his suppporters are Troofers and Nazis, I get told I'm saying all of Paul's supporters are Troofers and Nazis. Same thing with the candidate himself. Once again, the charge that I'm a disingenuous poster comes from someone doing it himself.

223 posted on 01/20/2008 11:54:20 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: tacticalogic
Like that’s going to happen.

Oh no, actually, I'm feeling that satisfaction right now. Looking forward to a Packer win today as well.

224 posted on 01/20/2008 11:57:09 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Enjoy your delusion. I’m done with you.


225 posted on 01/20/2008 12:09:37 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
So what?

The Jewish Task Force talks about those things too, which doesn't mean that the people who host cable access programs for that group aren't lunatics.

As far as I know, Paul hasn't agreed to appear on any of those program.

Why should whether someone is "nationally syndicated" have a bearing on your decision to appear, or refuse to appear, on his radio program?

If David Duke were somehow able to sign a national syndication contract with Clear Channel, would that mean that Paul should appear on his radio program?

Fr. Coughlin hosted a radio program that was more popular than the kookfest Alex Jones operates today, does that mean that the bilious, bigoted opinions he expressed on that program deserved the explicit endorsement of presidential candidates?

226 posted on 01/20/2008 12:42:29 PM PST by Reaganite1984
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To: Mr. Silverback
[So, you think JFK getting his PT boat cut in two in the blackness of the Pacfic ocean ineptness?]

Have you seen the turning radius of a PT boat and the turning radius of a destroyer? See "A Question of Character: The Life of John F. Kennedy" by Thomas Reeves for full details. Reeves says Kennedy and his crew wre probably literally caught napping. That sounds like Paul's newsletter story to me.

And they call the Ron Paul supporters conspiracy nuts!

227 posted on 01/21/2008 4:25:30 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Smart teens!


228 posted on 01/21/2008 3:21:30 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: fortheDeclaration
And they call the Ron Paul supporters conspiracy nuts!

It's conspiracy nuttery to believe that a PT boat can out turn a destroyer?

I think I'm seeing the intellectual prowess that's led you to be in the barrel for Ron Paul.

229 posted on 01/21/2008 8:39:33 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: Mr. Silverback
It's conspiracy nuttery to believe that a PT boat can out turn a destroyer?

Only a conspiracy nut would question what happened to Kennedy and PT109.

A PT boat can outturn a destroyer if it sees it in time.

Collision! PT-109 was one of the boats left behind. Lieutenant Kennedy rendezvoused his boat with PT-162 of his own patrol section and PT-169, which had been separated from another section, and the three boats spread out to make a picket line across the strait. At about 2:30 in the morning, a shape loomed out of the darkness three hundred yards off PT-109's starboard bow. So difficult was visibility that it was first believed to be another PT. When it became apparent that it was one of the Japanese destroyers, Kennedy attempted to turn to starboard to bring his torpedoes to bear. But there was not enough time. The destroyer, later identified as the Amagiri, the escort ship of the Express, struck PT-109 just forward of the forward starboard torpedo tube, ripping away the starboard aft side of the boat. Less than a minute had passed since the first sighting. http://www.jfklibrary.org/Historical+Resources/JFK+in+History/John+F.+Kennedy+and+PT109.htm

230 posted on 01/21/2008 10:09:09 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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To: fortheDeclaration

The reason I referred you to Reeves’ book is because he provides a lot more evidence. If your library doesn’t have it, they can get it through interlibrary loan.


231 posted on 01/21/2008 10:15:06 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: Mr. Silverback
The reason I referred you to Reeves’ book is because he provides a lot more evidence. If your library doesn’t have it, they can get it through interlibrary loan.

Evidence of what?

Nothing that happened that night reflects poorly on Kennedy.

232 posted on 01/21/2008 10:27:11 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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To: Mr. Silverback
I checked out the review of the Reeves book at Amazon and it seems that it is his contention that Kennedy and the crew were not alert when they were hit by the destroyer and in fact were hit in the daylight not the darkness of early morning.

And the evidence for this claim of dereliction of duty is?

233 posted on 01/22/2008 12:33:16 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Judging a book by its Amazon review is only a couple of degrees of separation from judging a book by its cover. There's more in there. For example, Reeves describes how Jack at first wanted to avoid any discussion of himself as a "war hero" because he considered his most heroic moment to be a big clusterhuck. It's been about four years since I read it, but I didn't walk away thining "This is much ado about nothing." To me the main thing is that Joe Kennedy wanted a vision of his boy going down fighting, so that's what he created. Even if JFK himself didn't actually screw the pooch out there, the fix was in to make him out to be something he wasn't. After reading bios of Kennedy, the thing I was most convinced of was that Joe Kennedy was a son of Hell. If their father had been a decent human being, I think Jack, Bobby and Teddy would have been great men in every sense of the word.

Of course, I'll gladly withdraw my reference to JFK, even though it was offered truthfully. You see, I've been in military organizations and I've been the editor of a national publication, and I can tell you that the "five years without reading the newsletter" fiasco is, if true, far more of a screwup than anything John Kennedy did in the Pacific or in office.

234 posted on 01/22/2008 11:47:54 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Fred, fry Huck and McCain like a squirrel in a popcorn popper!)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Judging a book by its Amazon review is only a couple of degrees of separation from judging a book by its cover.

I wasn't judging the book, I was finding out the issue regarding PT109.

So, the issue was that according to the author, Kennedy was delerict in his duty and that is why the boat was cut in two, not in the darkness of early morning, but in broad daylight.

There's more in there. For example, Reeves describes how Jack at first wanted to avoid any discussion of himself as a "war hero" because he considered his most heroic moment to be a big clusterhuck. It's been about four years since I read it, but I didn't walk away thining "This is much ado about nothing." To me the main thing is that Joe Kennedy wanted a vision of his boy going down fighting, so that's what he created. Even if JFK himself didn't actually screw the pooch out there, the fix was in to make him out to be something he wasn't. After reading bios of Kennedy, the thing I was most convinced of was that Joe Kennedy was a son of Hell. If their father had been a decent human being, I think Jack, Bobby and Teddy would have been great men in every sense of the word. Of course, I'll gladly withdraw my reference to JFK, even though it was offered truthfully. You see, I've been in military organizations and I've been the editor of a national publication, and I can tell you that the "five years without reading the newsletter" fiasco is, if true, far more of a screwup than anything John Kennedy did in the Pacific or in office.

Well, thank you for withdrawing it.

Ofcourse any skipper of a ship/boat is not going to feel proud of losing his ship/boat, no matter what the circumstances and how well he did after losing the ship/boat.

Unlike Kerry, Kennedy actually did show real courage and leadership ability.

235 posted on 01/22/2008 2:17:23 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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