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Antarctic volcanoes identified as a possible culprit in glacier melting
International Herald Tribune ^ | January 20, 2008 | Kenneth Chang

Posted on 01/20/2008 8:02:37 PM PST by RDTF

Another factor might be contributing to the thinning of some of the Antarctica's glaciers: volcanoes.

In an article published Sunday on the Web site of the journal Nature Geoscience, Hugh Corr and David Vaughan of the British Antarctic Survey report the identification of a layer of volcanic ash and glass shards frozen within an ice sheet in western Antarctica.

"This is the first time we have seen a volcano beneath the ice sheet punch a hole through the ice sheet" in Antarctica, Vaughan said.

Volcanic heat could still be melting ice to water and contributing to thinning and speeding up of the Pine Island glacier, which passes nearby, but Vaughan said he doubted that it could be affecting other glaciers in western Antarctica, which have also thinned in recent years. Most glaciologists, including Vaughan, say that warmer ocean water is the primary cause of thinning.

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KEYWORDS: agw; antartica; catastrophism; globalwarming; godsgravesglyphs; melting; volcano; volcanoes
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1 posted on 01/20/2008 8:02:38 PM PST by RDTF
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To: RDTF

Karl Rove HAS certainly been busy since leaving the WH, hasn’t he?


2 posted on 01/20/2008 8:06:42 PM PST by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president!)
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To: RDTF

I guess we saw a smaller version of this phenomenon in Iceland in the nineties when the Grimsvotn volcano blasted through the Vatnajokll glacier and the resultant outflow took out the coastal highway.


3 posted on 01/20/2008 8:09:10 PM PST by sinanju
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To: xcamel

ping


4 posted on 01/20/2008 8:10:09 PM PST by BufordP (Had Mexicans flown planes into the World Trade Center, Jorge Bush would have surrendered.)
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To: RDTF

No kidding. Something besides CO2? Who’d a thought?

Clearly not the *scientists* who are investigating global warming.


5 posted on 01/20/2008 8:11:23 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: RDTF

Yeah, but aren’t volcanoes caused by global warming?


6 posted on 01/20/2008 8:11:25 PM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: RDTF

“weather” beneath our feet.

“weather” in space.

Al Gore, there is more in heaven and earth then dreampt of in your philosophy.


7 posted on 01/20/2008 8:13:44 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: RDTF
Image hosted by Photobucket.com brought to you by man-made global warming... we make volcanoes HOTTER!!!
8 posted on 01/20/2008 8:14:58 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist )
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To: RDTF
Gee. Comes a little too late to refute See-BS's Chicken-Little show this evening: '60 Minutes' Preempted This Sunday for Global Warming Hysteria

Nowhere is the evidence of global warming as striking than near the earth’s poles. CBS News correspondent Scott Pelley’s report brings him to the top and the bottom of the world, where scientists point out the effects of the warming trend. He also speaks to NASA’s top scientist studying climate, who says the Bush administration has restricted what he can say about global warming.

But, wait. They would have ignored it anyway or quoted the British scientist who said, interesting but global warming is more important:

"It may be possible that heat from the volcano has caused some of that acceleration," says British Antarctic Survey professor David Vaughan, who stresses though that global warming is by far the greater likelier cause.

9 posted on 01/20/2008 8:15:52 PM PST by CedarDave (The early primaries are port-o-potties rented to the left to pee in the conservative hot tub)
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To: RDTF

NOTICE: Entrepreneur actively seeking working capital to establish a Volcanoe Offset Fund. Paypal accepted.


10 posted on 01/20/2008 8:16:35 PM PST by RoadKingSE (How do you know that that light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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To: CedarDave

This isn’t even really a new theory. When I searched here to see of this was already posted, I saw articles mentioning this connection in 05 and 06


11 posted on 01/20/2008 8:18:42 PM PST by RDTF
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To: raybbr

This was on the news Saturday night (I think NBC) and they were blaming it on global warming. The “fact” that global warming could reach down nearly 2 miles through solid ice was said to be a grave concern and an unsolved mystery as to how man affects the climate.


12 posted on 01/20/2008 8:19:15 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: Chode

We just need to put a stop to this. Volcanoes are illegal! We dont like them, so they should not exist! Volcanoes are a violation of my living constitutional rights!

I demand the right to live a volcanic ash free life!

Someone needs to organize a music concert to raise awareness against volcanoes!

Did you hear that rethuglicans want to give volcanoes an unfair tax break?

But, the volcanoes that come from across the border are ok. Illegal volcanoes, doing the erupting that American volcanoes wont do!

Racist.


13 posted on 01/20/2008 8:19:48 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: RDTF

No , no it’s SUV’s


14 posted on 01/20/2008 8:27:00 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: RDTF

How do you blame volcanoes on “man?”


15 posted on 01/20/2008 8:27:19 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: RDTF

And, although no volcanoes have erupted under the ice, magma under Greenland turns out to be the heat source causing the ‘ice river’ that so exercised the AGW crowd when it was first discovered.

One wonders whether volcanic activity under the arctic ice cap in general is contributing to (or even is the main cause of) the unusually large sea ice melt this past summer.


16 posted on 01/20/2008 8:29:46 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: LiteKeeper

It’s all of that oil drilling, dontcha know. Sticking those little probes into the Earth and upsetting the balance of the underworld. We’re naughty, naughty creatures!


17 posted on 01/20/2008 8:30:01 PM PST by swatbuznik
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To: xcamel; DaveLoneRanger; Baynative; calcowgirl; sourcery; Clive; sionnsar; SunkenCiv; ...

ping


18 posted on 01/20/2008 8:31:08 PM PST by Reform Canada (Kyoto=>More Unemployment=>More Poverty=>More Homeless=>More Crime=>More Rape & Murder)
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To: Paladin2
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19 posted on 01/20/2008 8:35:42 PM PST by americanophile
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To: RDTF

Will wonders never cease ____________ ?


20 posted on 01/20/2008 8:45:53 PM PST by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: raybbr

rofl!!! good one.


21 posted on 01/20/2008 8:47:46 PM PST by robomatik (thompson/<s>hunter</s> '08 or <s>hunter</s>/thompson '08)
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To: RDTF
More of that infernal Manmade Global Warming & Climate Change!!!

Something must be done or we will all soon be roasted like salted peanuts!

.


22 posted on 01/20/2008 8:50:01 PM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: Beowulf; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Normandy
"Hot Air Cult"

~~Anthropogenic Global Warming ™ ping~~

23 posted on 01/20/2008 8:50:06 PM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: RDTF

See? Global warming is so powerful that it even creates volcanos! There were no volcanos before the evil internal-combustion engine was created and now, thanks to capitalism, the earth’s surface will soon be covered in lava. I think this could be the theme of Al Gore’s next movie.


24 posted on 01/20/2008 9:19:11 PM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: RDTF

Personally, I think tofu is a culprit in glacier melting. Also skateboarding - that causes 37% of it. And sushi, there’s another 4%.


25 posted on 01/20/2008 9:30:16 PM PST by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: RDTF

Nah, ya think?


26 posted on 01/20/2008 9:40:59 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Reform Canada

Thanks Reform Canada.

related / similar:

Massive volcano exploded under Antarctic icesheet, study finds
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Posted on 01/20/2008 7:13:34 PM EST by NormsRevenge
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27 posted on 01/20/2008 9:42:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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28 posted on 01/20/2008 9:42:58 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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To: sinanju
Iceland in the nineties when the Grimsvotn volcano blasted through the Vatnajokll glacier

Hey! Speak English so the rest of us can understand you! ;o)

Just kidding. I'd love to go to Iceland someday. Just finished reading "Red Storm Rising" for about the 6th time. I love the names of all the places. We knew a couple from Reykjavik when hubby was in Grad School. They were the nicest folks.

29 posted on 01/20/2008 9:45:20 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: RDTF
Volcanic heat could still be melting ice to water and contributing to thinning and speeding up of the Pine Island glacier

PLEASE NOTE.....

Pine Island Glacier, which is a very small area of the whole continent, is the ONLY part of Antarctica that is melting!

The rest is getting COLDER !

30 posted on 01/20/2008 10:24:12 PM PST by Wil H
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To: sinanju
Yup, I always hate it when that happens, don't you?

Worst case of a local neighborhood volcano happened in Mexico nearly a century ago when one popped up in a guy's cornfield.

Definitely some bad ju ju.

It's been a laugh riot listening to the environazis tell us this would be the first time "fire melted ice"(paraphrasing Roseanne O'Donnell)

31 posted on 01/20/2008 11:01:41 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Paracutin let rip in 1943.


32 posted on 01/20/2008 11:20:39 PM PST by sinanju
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To: RDTF

there are also volcanoes melting ice in greenland


33 posted on 01/21/2008 1:23:20 AM PST by samtheman
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34 posted on 01/21/2008 3:26:48 AM PST by xcamel (FDT/2008)
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To: RDTF
Oh NO!!!

You mean to tell me that 1300-2200° rock can melt -60° ice??

Who knew!

35 posted on 01/21/2008 4:49:09 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: RDTF

Volcanoes. Yeah, but what causes volcanoes? Global Warming!!


36 posted on 01/21/2008 4:49:37 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (Just laugh at them!)
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To: RDTF

Antarctic volcanoes identified as a possible culprit in glacier melting ...

don’t tell al bore!!!


37 posted on 01/21/2008 5:07:07 AM PST by nyyankeefan
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To: RDTF
We Freepers have known for 5 years that thermal vents and volcanoes could affect polar ice.

Hotbed of Volcanic Activity Found Beneath Arctic Ocean; Posted on 07/01/2003

That thread, from 2003, has these links, and several others.

Hydrothermal vents: Arctic hotspots

Behavior of Arctic Ocean Ridge Confounds Predictions; May Lead to New Insights into Crust Formation


38 posted on 01/21/2008 5:08:56 AM PST by syriacus (HUCKIAVELLIAN : (adj.) hypocritical; slick; glib; charming and, yet, sneakily nasty.)
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To: xcamel

You mean, you mean, that eeeeevil man might not be responsible? How dare you suggest that nature might be involved? (/sarc)


39 posted on 01/21/2008 6:13:07 AM PST by alwaysconservative (Consistently placing in the top 27 for Pookie's 'toons)
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To: RDTF

I heard an interview months ago where the scientist said that there has been an increase in undersea volcanic activity way up there that has been warming the water


40 posted on 01/21/2008 6:16:54 AM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: Hot Tabasco
volcanic activity way up there

Oops, didn't mean the Antarctic but rather up Alaska way.......

41 posted on 01/21/2008 6:18:26 AM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: RDTF

However the explosion of the Tambora volcano in the 1815 caused global cooling and 1816 was dubbed “the year without a summer”. In any account, Al Gore’s dogma of man made global warming is pure bunk.


42 posted on 01/21/2008 6:34:43 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: americanophile

Ha!! Thanks for that! I hope Lynne has a copy.


43 posted on 01/21/2008 6:47:37 AM PST by newbeenew
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To: RDTF

Damn. Just when Algore thought he had us on the hook for those hated SUV’s, this has to pop up.


44 posted on 01/21/2008 6:48:56 AM PST by RetiredArmy (America wants socialism. It wants it all for free. It wants the government to provide all.)
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To: RDTF
So lets recount - last month scientists reported a large magme chamber that was heating Greenland and possible might be the cause of Ice melts there, and now they have found evidence of a possibly active volcano under Antarctica.

And still we have idiots like McCain spewing the GloBULL warming shiite.

45 posted on 01/21/2008 6:51:25 AM PST by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: LiteKeeper

Logical people don’t. environmentalists, on the other hand...


46 posted on 01/21/2008 7:12:01 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Rembrandt

Don’t forget cow farts...


47 posted on 01/21/2008 7:13:06 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: RDTF

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48 posted on 01/21/2008 7:52:32 AM PST by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger then yours)
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49 posted on 01/21/2008 7:58:17 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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“Another factor might be contributing to the thinning of some of the Antarctica’s glaciers: volcanoes.”


THE FACTOR contributing to melting icecaps is an increase in temperature.

THE FACTOR contributing to Humidity turning into icecaps is a decrease in temperature.

THE FACTOR contributing to an increase or decrease in temperature is the output from the SUN.

(Do I get a NOBEL PRIZE?)


50 posted on 01/21/2008 9:46:20 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Just saying what 'they' won't.)
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