Skip to comments.U.S. intel alerted to threat of 'Forest Fire Jihad'
Posted on 01/21/2008 10:07:51 AM PST by forkinsocket
U.S. officials monitoring terrorist web sites have discovered a call for using forest fires as weapons against crusader nations, in what may explain some recent wildfires in places like southern California and Greece.
A terrorist website was discovered recently that carried a posting that called for Forest Jihad. The posting was listed on the Internet on Nov. 26 and reported in U.S. intelligence channels last week. The statement, in Arabic, said that summer has begun so do not forget the Forest Jihad.
The writer called on all Muslims in the United States, Europe, Russia and Australia to start forest fires.
The posting quoted imprisoned Al Qaida terrorist Abu Musab Al-Suri, as saying Jihad is an art just like poetry, music, and the fine arts. There are people that draw and there are others that are jihadists. They both act upon inspiration. Al-Suri is a senior Al Qaida leader captured in Pakistan in 2005 who is believed to be in U.S. custody.
The idea of forest fires is attributed to him, may God set him free, as is in this short clip, the writer stated.
The posting said that setting forest fires were legal under extremist Islamic law as part of a eye for an eye and that can produce amazing results.
Wildfires in California burned more than 500,000 acres beginning in October and authorities said arson was to blame for some of the fires. In August, wildfires broke out in Greece that authorities say were deliberately set.
The writer stated that it was permissible to burn trees in carrying out jihad.
Scholars have justified chopping down and burning the infidels' forests when they do the same to our lands, the writer said.
The writer stated that targeted forests are in the nations that are at war with Muslims, including the United States, Europe, Russia, and Australia.
Other nations, including Brazil are off limits because Brazil has not joined the armies of the crusade.
On damage caused by wildfires, the report said that the fires typically take months to put out which means that this terror will haunt them for an extended period of time.
The fires also will cause economic damage because it will limit exports of timber used to make furniture and also will cause losses to pharmaceutical companies that use trees for ingredients for drugs, the posting said.
Smoke caused by the fires will create pollution and military forces could be tied up fighting fires. The report noted that U.S. military forces in Iraq or Afghanistan could even be recalled as occurred following hurricane Katrina, which did not occur.
Imagine if, after all the losses caused by such an event, a jihadist organization were to claim responsibility for (starting) the forest fires, the writer said. You can hardly begin to imagine the level of the fear that would take hold of people in the United States, in Europe, in Russia, and in Australia.
The report said that Abu Musab Al-Suri, urges terrorists to use sulphuric acid to start a forest fire, as well as gasoline.
The article was signed by Abu Thar Al-Kuwaiti, on behalf of a group called the Al-Ikhlas Islamic Network.
The japs had the same idea in WWII
I wonder how much Willy Pete and napalm it would take to turn that black box into cinders.....
More importantly - which side would the wacko environmentalists take?
Ok.... who gave the Muzzies fire?
Easy to pull off here. Real easy, and would quickly overwhelm our capacity to contain and extinguish them..
Southern California would be especially vulnerable to such a threat during the Santa Ana wind season in the fall.
In 1978, an arsonist using a home-made firebomb consisting of a Dixie cup, a cigarette, and a book of matches ignited a fire in the bushes behind a shopping mall in Agoura, a town west of Los Angeles. The fire burned all the way to the Pacific Ocean, more than 10 miles away, and consumed dozens of structures. If weather conditions are right, just a handful of arsonists could cause catastrophic devastation.
I bet it was the Diaz Brothers.
Well that’s it.If we can’t tell the good Muslims from the bad ones,then they ALL have to go.
Big forest fires in Greece last year, still no word what did that.
This is a little off topic, but it seems like these bozos have a formula for their Jihadi name. Like the porn name formula.
There have been a LOT of fires in the past couple of years, Colorado, California, New Mexico etc. When we wondered about, and warned that it wouldn’t be difficult for terrorists to use forest fires, certain people on this site and several other sites called us “Alarmists”. Now, those people are just Dumbasses.
Aesthetics aside, the forest fire danger was mentioned right after WTC911, but next to nothing preemptive has been done such as cutting fire break roads every mile.
If you're curious, the names mean "father of Musab the Syrian" & "father of Thar the Kuwaiti". Thar means revenge.
Each state should have 10 to 20 C-130 made for fighting fires.
They could all work together when needed.
The fed could have some loaners for any state that need them.
Old 747 would be cool to watch drop water too.
Usually, when I go out in the woods, I either carry a 357 Magnum or a snub nose 44 Remington Magnum revolver. I hope that the jihadist understand that starting a forest fire in most places is a felony and in many places one is allowed to use deadly force to stop a felony. As always it is important that one understand the firearms laws of where one takes a firearm.
Now for the question mixed in with a comment. I has been a long time since I last read my insurance policy, but I think (hopefully someone can explain otherwise) that a forest fire started by enemy combatants (i.e. terrorists) might nullify any fire insurance claim someone had. If that is the case, I sincerely hope that any jihadist is just called an arsonist by Homeland Security and the local authorities.
I think that the fires in Greece last year might have been what really got terrorists attention.
The reason it hasn’t been made “clear” is because we are too nicey, nicey. The American people have to get pissed. When that happens all the muslims will leave.....one way or another.
Massive forest/brush fires, particularly in places like California where considerable property destruction and even loss of life could occur, would make plausible terrorist weapons. However, attacks against our electric and communications infrastructure might be more effective at crippling the US economy. Consider the effects of of coordinated attacks on major portions of the US electric grid or against microwave towers. Massive east coast blackouts have happened in the past caused by just a single equipment failure triggering a cascade of overloads and shutdowns.
I think one of their incindery devices did kill some members of a family out on a picnic.
There is no terrorist threat - John Kerry
War on Terror is a bumper sticker slogan - John Ewards
..willing suspension of disbelief - Hillary Clinton
Voted against all Iraq measures - Obama Hussein Barack
Each state should have 10 to 20 C-130 gunships for fighting terrorism. They could work together when needed.
Here’s hoping for a wet year.
I wonder if this has already happened...
Duh. Gee, whouda thunk that so many people could be affected by a match and a little wind. What if it happened SoCal? Seems to happen every year about the same time. Hmmm?
“I think that the fires in Greece last year might have been what really got terrorists attention.”
I saw the effects last August in central and southern Italy also. The locals said the fires were started by “anarchists.”
OK, naming your son “Son of Musab the Syrian” would make sense. But why would a father name his newborn child “Father of Musab the Syrian”? As an infant, you obviously aren’t a father. How would grandpa know his grandson will be named Musab? And exactly how does he know he will be Syrian?
This is really confusing. Please enlighten me.
We need a firm policy that for every square kilometer of our forest they burn, we grab one square kilometer of their oilfields.
So that's why there are no trees in Saudi Arabia. I'd always wondered.
“There must be 50 ways to be a Jihadist”
(perhaps some poetic and musically talented FReepers can expound a song)
Took ‘em long enough to figure that one out.
“Loose lips sink ships.”
How about we expel all who belong to that cult of death?
So...is deadly force authorized if you’re witnessing this type of terrorism ? Or any type ?
Forest fires are an attack on our electric grid. High voltage transmission lines often run through forests.
Ah yes, the forests of Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, and Iraq. I remember them well before Bush the lumberjack came along.
I think that's the reason all these home grown jihadi's are not called terrorists by the authorities
Probably depends upon the laws where it takes place.
In Washington State RCW9A 16.050 Homicide states
By person - When justifiable. Homicide is also justifiable when committed either:
(1) in the lawful defense of the slayer, or his or her husband, wife, parent, child, brother, or sister, or of any other person in his presence or company, when there is reasonable ground to apprehend a design on the part of the person slain to commit a felony or to do some great personal injury to the slayer or to any such person, and there is imminent danger of such design being accomplished; or
(2) In the actual resistance of an attempt to commit a felony upon the slayer, in his presence or upon or in a dwelling, or other place of abode, in which he is.
Not giving legal advice, but it appears that the "plane language" of the statute says that if Arson is a felony, then in Washington State on would be justified in killing a jihadist, especially if you felt that your life might be in danger from the fire (s)he was attempting to start or you tried to stop the jihadist and you required deadly force to stop them from starting the fire. (This assumes that law enforcement would view starting a forest fire as Arson in the first or second degree or at the very least reckless burning in the first degree, which are all felonies)
Washington state even has a felony sabotage statue against damage to lumber interests and property. Just make sure that you tag what you shoot and report it to the appropriate authorities (/sarcasm)
IF this stuff keeps up we’ll have to teach them how to set sand on fire and turn it into green glass.
If the terrorist are looking for some sensational, spectacular terrorist act, met to terrorize...Brush fires will be a big let down for them.