Skip to comments.Clinton, Obama dislike boils over at debate
Posted on 01/22/2008 1:27:44 AM PST by mbraynard
From the article: The former first lady, who met King as a teenager in Chicago seven years before he was gunned down in 1968, paid tribute to Obama as an "extraordinary young African-American man."
Obama is 46.
For those unaware, it is a racial slur to refer to an adult black male as 'boy.' After Guy Milner called a black man who refused to shake his hand 'boy' his campaign was over.
While she didn't use the term 'boy' here, it sure sounds suggestive of the slur and is exceptionally insulting. He's a grown, accomplished, married man with children.
If an R did this, you know the media would be all over it.
She better be careful now!
This comes pretty close to a serious veiled put down IMO.
Hillary and Bill are notorious for slurring people in a manner that they can deny any wrong with a straight face, and you can count on that being the tactic here if she’s called on it.
I’d love to see Obama call her on this.
In your own words, she didn’t call him a boy; she alluded to Ronald Reagan’s comment about Mondale about his youth and inexperience.
;-) Invoking Reagan. That’s not going to go over well on the left, is it?
I would think it would be funny to be a fly on the wall at the Clinton house while they’re discussing Obama.
Hillary figured it was a shoe in to have the Democrat crown and now... she has to work for it.
You can just guess how they will work their campaign against a republican when it’s time but by a hundred fold. All the smears, the race or gender baiting and the playing of the victim card.... I can’t wait!
Hey, this is the 21st Century. Al and Jesse were the boys of the 20th Century. So the plantation mentality has evolved into one of indentured servitude.
What do you bet that privately between Bill and Hillary they refer to Obama with the N word ?
Much as I dislike Hillary, and am no real fan of Obama and certainly not of this adoring throngs, there’s nothing wrong with what she said. I agree if a Repub had said it someone might have made a case about it, but in presidential terms he’s certainly fairly young, and to a 60-year old like Hillary he’s young.
Well, BJ Clinton’s baggage did refer to
one democrat as a “Fing Jew Ba$tard”!
This is breaking news?
Uh... yes. Can there be a greater insult than calling someone an exceptional young man? I wonder about the people who continually drag race into this in a transparent attempt at inflaming racial passions. It’s like they have no understanding that he has at least a 40% chance of Obama being the Dem nominee. Are we really going to immunize him against any criticism, accuse all of his opponents of racism, build him up, and then realize that if he’s the nominee - oops, we are on record as calling anyone who opposes him racist? What does that leave us to campaign against him with. Can’t discuss his drug use, that’s racist. Can’t point out his past connections with criminal elements, that’s racist. Can’t even say his middle name is Huessein, that’s racist. Can’t point out his policy changes, that’s racist. Can’t even pay him a compliment, that’s racist.
How short-sighted can we be? Come on now. Why neuter ourselves like this?
Oh, please. An Olympic gymnast couldn’t couldn’t stretch that far. She called him a “young man.” Whether 46 is “young” is an academic exercise. It’s much younger than most presidents. Much younger than Hilary. Equating “young man” to “boy” and then extrapolating a racist subtext from that is a ridiculous waste of time.
There are plenty of things to dislike about Hillary without chasing chimerae.
If there is a private time between them, I wouldn’t be surprised. I’m not convinced there’s much of that to tell the truth.
Yeah I think there is very little private time between the Hill and the Bill. BJC has made some bad choices but he would never choose to spend a lot of “quality” time with Hill....BTW it is real creepy to keep seeing Huma in all campaign photos, she appears to be keeping the EYE on Hill.
I’m sorry, who is Huma?
I'm just guessin'.
“I would think it would be funny to be a fly on the wall at the Clinton house while theyre discussing Obama.”
I would like to be the same in the Obama household. Perhaps Barack isn’t quite the cool, calm and collected altar boy he seems in front of the camera and in interviews. I bet he and Michelle let fly quite a few epithets when conversing about Hillary and Bill.
Aren’t there enough people in the world who will look for something, anything, to be offended about? It is ridiculous that people are trying to make a big thing about this.
This is trying to make something out of nothing.
He's actually clean too!
Im just gonna reach a safe distance before that one erupts.
"Now, we know, even as we take this moment of joy and celebration, that the work is far from finished, the dream is nowhere fulfilled," she said.There are no rich blacks. No middle-class blacks. No blacks in any of the major universities in this country. No black doctors, lawyers, generals or members of the cabinet. No black judges, which of course means no black judges sitting on the Supreme Court of the United States.
There are no blacks living in any communities anywhere in America where there are also whites and other races. There is segregation in the housing market. Blacks are locked in ghettos and can't move out, can't live wherever they want.
There is no chance for a black to get a good job, a good income, live in a good neighborhood and send their children to the same schools as white kids. School segregation, like housing segregation, is complete.
There are no black athletes playing on major sports teams, no black musicians, no black actors and no black radio talk show hosts.
Blacks are completely locked out of American society.
"the dream is nowhere fulfilled"
LOLs, did your Who is Huma question get answered by the mighty FR research team? Keep your eyes peeled on camera footage of Hill and Huma will almost always show up in the b/g. It is beyond creepy, IMO.
Call her on this? He hasn’t even called her on the more obvious and totally OUTRAGIOUS comment on Obama not being ready for the WH because he “hasn’t done the SPADE work”
And the loathsome lib media hasn’t said a word.
Well, 46 is quite young for a presidential candidate. Especially compared to Romney, McCain, Thompson, and Hillary. And he’s still a number of years younger than Edwards and Huckabee.
People are too sensitive these days and try to find racism inherent in every word and action.
They both must think it does since they've both invoked the name of Ronaldus Magnus in the past week or so.....
What was really ugly is how many times John McCains names was mentioned in this debate. Our station looped all the McCain comments. Like he was already chosen as our nominee. It was “I’m more capable of beating McCain” - No I am , No I am, .......
“I bet he and Michelle let fly quite a few epithets when conversing about Hillary and Bill.”
Our household has a least one thing in common with the Obama’s...
I would bet a sizable sum of money on that. I take your bet, Sir.
“the dream is nowhere fulfilled”
She don’t feel no ways taaared, either.
Thanks. Looks like you’re close.
Thanks, I think... LOL.
LOL, good move. I think I got some of it on me.
Well, I got a link. Ewwwwwwww... LOL
I know, the media has lowered itself beyond biased to the macabre absurd.
Got a pic?
I'll stick by it. It's a back-handed compliment. He's a grown, adult man. She is trying to minimize him in this way. It was practiced. It's like saying 'bless your heart' in the south, but with a racial overtone.
This is just like the biden quote (thanks Skypilot) about him being a 'clean' black man, except Biden meant no real harm.
I agree it was back-handed, and a bit patronizing. I disagree on the racial overtone. "Boy" has an ugly history; using "young man" to imply "boy" is just too meta. I don't think Hillary would go to that much effort to work in an insult that few would be likely to catch.
Not to mention, it's a double-edged sword; it plays to Hillary's base, which is mostly over 42, but hurt her with Obama's, which is mostly under. 42 is where there's a pretty clear divide in the polls. I guess we know the question to the answer now.
My senior year of college, I had a black roommate named Danny. One day, when we were engaged in some good-natured joshing, I began a sentence with "Boy ..." in my best Foghorn Leghorn accent. This was something I did with white, Asian, etc. friends, as well. It's like calling someone "kid" or "skippy" or "sparky," because you're a wise old man, all of two years older.
I caught myself, and apologized to Danny. It took him a couple of seconds to realize why I was apologizing, and he brushed it off.
could you explain the expression “bless your heart”?
Most people would dislike getting boils at a debate.
Sounds patronizing to me.
And the media wouldn't call it "dislike" if it were a republican.
Hillary - Judged by the company she keeps By Steve Miller Tuesday, January 22, 2008
Hillary ClintonLAS VEGAS - The Nevada caucus is over, but several issues emerged that help define the woman selected to be the state Democratic Partys nominee.
First and foremost, it took dozens of translators stationed in the caucus locations to help the majority of Clinton supporters understand speeches and fill out their ballots. These voters who could neither speak nor write in our nations language were asked (in Spanish) to sign a document attesting to the fact that they were in the United States legally. After obediently doing so, the majority voted for Hillary Clinton at caucus locations within the hotels where theyre employed.
Think about it, no matter what Obama says about this, he would lose. The night of the Dem debate in Nevada, I was laughing because a Hispanic man stood up during the Lutz focus group segment on FOX and angrily yelled that no Hispanic would ever vote for Obama, meaning that no Hispanic would vote for a Black man.
you know dang well who she is..........LOL.....we all do by now. what we want to know is if there is a blue dress moment coming for the two of them.......
As strange as it may seem, I honestly don’t remember hearing about Huma before. I may have, but it sure didn’t stick if I did.
I somehow don’t think a blue stained dress is going to figure in this, but then maybe those rumors about Hillary weren’t so crazy after all.
Bwa ha ha ha...
phone calls to hill at all hours are picked up by huma......NOT bill.
Who cares? Let them kill each other.