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Clinton, Obama dislike boils over at debate
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080122030807.kaihu43y&show_article=1 ^ | Jan 22, 2007

Posted on 01/22/2008 1:27:44 AM PST by mbraynard

From the article: The former first lady, who met King as a teenager in Chicago seven years before he was gunned down in 1968, paid tribute to Obama as an "extraordinary young African-American man."

Obama is 46.

For those unaware, it is a racial slur to refer to an adult black male as 'boy.' After Guy Milner called a black man who refused to shake his hand 'boy' his campaign was over.

While she didn't use the term 'boy' here, it sure sounds suggestive of the slur and is exceptionally insulting. He's a grown, accomplished, married man with children.

If an R did this, you know the media would be all over it.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: boy; elections; hillary; huma; obama; race; slur
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Yeah, that's what I said.
1 posted on 01/22/2008 1:27:46 AM PST by mbraynard
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To: mbraynard

Boy-O-Boy-O-Boy-O-Boy!
She better be careful now!


2 posted on 01/22/2008 1:34:14 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: mbraynard
Bill used to use the “N” word quite regularly according to people who were around him during his years as governor. I wouldn’t put it past Hillary to be of the same mind on that subject, back then.

This comes pretty close to a serious veiled put down IMO.

Hillary and Bill are notorious for slurring people in a manner that they can deny any wrong with a straight face, and you can count on that being the tactic here if she’s called on it.

I’d love to see Obama call her on this.

3 posted on 01/22/2008 1:35:03 AM PST by DoughtyOne (< fence >< sound immigration policies >< /weasles >< /RINOs >< /Reagan wannabees that are liberal >)
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To: mbraynard

In your own words, she didn’t call him a boy; she alluded to Ronald Reagan’s comment about Mondale about his youth and inexperience.

;-) Invoking Reagan. That’s not going to go over well on the left, is it?


4 posted on 01/22/2008 1:36:25 AM PST by saveliberty (Prayer blizzard for Tony and Jill Snow and their family.)
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To: mbraynard

I would think it would be funny to be a fly on the wall at the Clinton house while they’re discussing Obama.

Hillary figured it was a shoe in to have the Democrat crown and now... she has to work for it.

You can just guess how they will work their campaign against a republican when it’s time but by a hundred fold. All the smears, the race or gender baiting and the playing of the victim card.... I can’t wait!


5 posted on 01/22/2008 1:39:59 AM PST by Tut
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To: mbraynard
From the article: The former first lady, who met King as a teenager in Chicago seven years before he was gunned down in 1968, paid tribute to Obama as an "extraordinary young African-American man."

Hey, this is the 21st Century. Al and Jesse were the boys of the 20th Century. So the plantation mentality has evolved into one of indentured servitude.

6 posted on 01/22/2008 1:41:20 AM PST by kipita (“Love” is to humanity as gravitons are to an infinite # of universes.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Bill used to use the “N” word quite regularly

What do you bet that privately between Bill and Hillary they refer to Obama with the N word ?

7 posted on 01/22/2008 1:41:41 AM PST by libh8er
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To: mbraynard

Much as I dislike Hillary, and am no real fan of Obama and certainly not of this adoring throngs, there’s nothing wrong with what she said. I agree if a Repub had said it someone might have made a case about it, but in presidential terms he’s certainly fairly young, and to a 60-year old like Hillary he’s young.


8 posted on 01/22/2008 2:02:03 AM PST by Sandreckoner
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To: mbraynard

Well, BJ Clinton’s baggage did refer to
one democrat as a “Fing Jew Ba$tard”!


9 posted on 01/22/2008 2:03:08 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rudy,Romney,McCain, Huckabee will send a self-abused stomped elephant to the DRNC.)
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To: mbraynard

This is breaking news?


10 posted on 01/22/2008 2:04:20 AM PST by maquiladora
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To: mbraynard

Uh... yes. Can there be a greater insult than calling someone an exceptional young man? I wonder about the people who continually drag race into this in a transparent attempt at inflaming racial passions. It’s like they have no understanding that he has at least a 40% chance of Obama being the Dem nominee. Are we really going to immunize him against any criticism, accuse all of his opponents of racism, build him up, and then realize that if he’s the nominee - oops, we are on record as calling anyone who opposes him racist? What does that leave us to campaign against him with. Can’t discuss his drug use, that’s racist. Can’t point out his past connections with criminal elements, that’s racist. Can’t even say his middle name is Huessein, that’s racist. Can’t point out his policy changes, that’s racist. Can’t even pay him a compliment, that’s racist.

How short-sighted can we be? Come on now. Why neuter ourselves like this?


11 posted on 01/22/2008 2:08:23 AM PST by COgamer
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To: mbraynard

Oh, please. An Olympic gymnast couldn’t couldn’t stretch that far. She called him a “young man.” Whether 46 is “young” is an academic exercise. It’s much younger than most presidents. Much younger than Hilary. Equating “young man” to “boy” and then extrapolating a racist subtext from that is a ridiculous waste of time.

There are plenty of things to dislike about Hillary without chasing chimerae.


12 posted on 01/22/2008 2:09:02 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: libh8er

If there is a private time between them, I wouldn’t be surprised. I’m not convinced there’s much of that to tell the truth.


13 posted on 01/22/2008 2:28:11 AM PST by DoughtyOne (< fence >< sound immigration policies >< /weasles >< /RINOs >< /Reagan wannabees that are liberal >)
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To: DoughtyOne

Yeah I think there is very little private time between the Hill and the Bill. BJC has made some bad choices but he would never choose to spend a lot of “quality” time with Hill....BTW it is real creepy to keep seeing Huma in all campaign photos, she appears to be keeping the EYE on Hill.


14 posted on 01/22/2008 2:47:34 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: iopscusa

I’m sorry, who is Huma?


15 posted on 01/22/2008 2:51:58 AM PST by DoughtyOne (< fence >< sound immigration policies >< /weasles >< /RINOs >< /Reagan wannabees that are liberal >)
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To: DoughtyOne
Hillary's lover, Barak's '"muslim" sister'!

I'm just guessin'.

16 posted on 01/22/2008 3:15:06 AM PST by SantosLHalper (Liberals - The first to cry for tolerance. The first to shut you up when you don't agree with them.)
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To: Tut

“I would think it would be funny to be a fly on the wall at the Clinton house while they’re discussing Obama.”

I would like to be the same in the Obama household. Perhaps Barack isn’t quite the cool, calm and collected altar boy he seems in front of the camera and in interviews. I bet he and Michelle let fly quite a few epithets when conversing about Hillary and Bill.


17 posted on 01/22/2008 3:18:24 AM PST by Mila
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To: DoughtyOne

http://www.nohillaryclinton.com/2007/10/31/halloween-hillary-huma-and-hidden-sex-affair-story/


18 posted on 01/22/2008 3:26:25 AM PST by Misschuck
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To: ReignOfError

Thank you.

Aren’t there enough people in the world who will look for something, anything, to be offended about? It is ridiculous that people are trying to make a big thing about this.


19 posted on 01/22/2008 3:28:17 AM PST by frankiep (Democrats base their ideology on the premise that you are too stupid to do anything for yourself.)
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To: Sandreckoner
Much as I dislike Hillary, and am no real fan of Obama and certainly not of this adoring throngs, there’s nothing wrong with what she said. I agree if a Repub had said it someone might have made a case about it, but in presidential terms he’s certainly fairly young, and to a 60-year old like Hillary he’s young.

Amen.

This is trying to make something out of nothing.

20 posted on 01/22/2008 3:30:15 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (The power under the Constitution will always be in the people- George Washington)
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To: mbraynard

He's actually clean too!

21 posted on 01/22/2008 3:34:07 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: DoughtyOne
I’m sorry, who is Huma?

Im just gonna reach a safe distance before that one erupts.

22 posted on 01/22/2008 3:44:52 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: mbraynard
"Now, we know, even as we take this moment of joy and celebration, that the work is far from finished, the dream is nowhere fulfilled," she said.
There are no rich blacks. No middle-class blacks. No blacks in any of the major universities in this country. No black doctors, lawyers, generals or members of the cabinet. No black judges, which of course means no black judges sitting on the Supreme Court of the United States.

There are no blacks living in any communities anywhere in America where there are also whites and other races. There is segregation in the housing market. Blacks are locked in ghettos and can't move out, can't live wherever they want.

There is no chance for a black to get a good job, a good income, live in a good neighborhood and send their children to the same schools as white kids. School segregation, like housing segregation, is complete.

There are no black athletes playing on major sports teams, no black musicians, no black actors and no black radio talk show hosts.

Blacks are completely locked out of American society.

"the dream is nowhere fulfilled"

23 posted on 01/22/2008 4:02:24 AM PST by samtheman
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To: DoughtyOne

LOLs, did your Who is Huma question get answered by the mighty FR research team? Keep your eyes peeled on camera footage of Hill and Huma will almost always show up in the b/g. It is beyond creepy, IMO.


24 posted on 01/22/2008 5:00:02 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: DoughtyOne

Call her on this? He hasn’t even called her on the more obvious and totally OUTRAGIOUS comment on Obama not being ready for the WH because he “hasn’t done the SPADE work”

And the loathsome lib media hasn’t said a word.


25 posted on 01/22/2008 5:00:38 AM PST by aroundabout
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To: mbraynard

Well, 46 is quite young for a presidential candidate. Especially compared to Romney, McCain, Thompson, and Hillary. And he’s still a number of years younger than Edwards and Huckabee.

People are too sensitive these days and try to find racism inherent in every word and action.


26 posted on 01/22/2008 5:17:51 AM PST by onja (Reluctant McCain supporter. Best remaining option, strong on my primary issues.)
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To: saveliberty
That’s not going to go over well on the left, is it?

They both must think it does since they've both invoked the name of Ronaldus Magnus in the past week or so.....

27 posted on 01/22/2008 5:34:11 AM PST by Thermalseeker (Silence is not always a Sign of Wisdom, but Babbling is ever a Mark of Folly. - B. Franklin)
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To: mbraynard
Dang why did I miss the debate? I am hearing soundbites this morning - holy moly after a day of hugs & kisses on MLK Day they come out swinging gloves off.

What was really ugly is how many times John McCains names was mentioned in this debate. Our station looped all the McCain comments. Like he was already chosen as our nominee. It was “I’m more capable of beating McCain” - No I am , No I am, .......

28 posted on 01/22/2008 5:42:40 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: Mila

“I bet he and Michelle let fly quite a few epithets when conversing about Hillary and Bill.”

Our household has a least one thing in common with the Obama’s...


29 posted on 01/22/2008 5:50:09 AM PST by CenTex (Texas has a governor for sale... Make an offer...)
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To: libh8er

I would bet a sizable sum of money on that. I take your bet, Sir.


30 posted on 01/22/2008 6:12:13 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("There is no civility, only politics.")
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To: CenTex
"Our household has a least one thing in common with the Obama’s..."


I daresay many here share that trait in their families as well.
31 posted on 01/22/2008 6:23:05 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine ("There is no civility, only politics.")
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To: samtheman

“the dream is nowhere fulfilled”

She don’t feel no ways taaared, either.


32 posted on 01/22/2008 10:12:12 AM PST by Cecily
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To: SantosLHalper

Thanks. Looks like you’re close.


33 posted on 01/22/2008 11:00:12 AM PST by DoughtyOne (< fence >< sound immigration policies >< /weasles >< /RINOs >< /Reagan wannabees that are liberal >)
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To: Misschuck

Thanks, I think... LOL.


34 posted on 01/22/2008 11:00:38 AM PST by DoughtyOne (< fence >< sound immigration policies >< /weasles >< /RINOs >< /Reagan wannabees that are liberal >)
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To: ReignOfError

LOL, good move. I think I got some of it on me.


35 posted on 01/22/2008 11:01:16 AM PST by DoughtyOne (< fence >< sound immigration policies >< /weasles >< /RINOs >< /Reagan wannabees that are liberal >)
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Well, I got a link. Ewwwwwwww... LOL


36 posted on 01/22/2008 11:02:03 AM PST by DoughtyOne (< fence >< sound immigration policies >< /weasles >< /RINOs >< /Reagan wannabees that are liberal >)
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To: aroundabout

I know, the media has lowered itself beyond biased to the macabre absurd.


37 posted on 01/22/2008 11:03:17 AM PST by DoughtyOne (< fence >< sound immigration policies >< /weasles >< /RINOs >< /Reagan wannabees that are liberal >)
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To: iopscusa

Got a pic?


38 posted on 01/22/2008 11:12:13 AM PST by mbraynard
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To: COgamer; ReignOfError; frankiep; SkyPilot; mbraynard
Can there be a greater insult than calling someone an exceptional young man?

I'll stick by it. It's a back-handed compliment. He's a grown, adult man. She is trying to minimize him in this way. It was practiced. It's like saying 'bless your heart' in the south, but with a racial overtone.

This is just like the biden quote (thanks Skypilot) about him being a 'clean' black man, except Biden meant no real harm.

39 posted on 01/22/2008 11:13:47 AM PST by mbraynard
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To: mbraynard
I'll stick by it. It's a back-handed compliment. He's a grown, adult man. She is trying to minimize him in this way. It was practiced. It's like saying 'bless your heart' in the south, but with a racial overtone.

I agree it was back-handed, and a bit patronizing. I disagree on the racial overtone. "Boy" has an ugly history; using "young man" to imply "boy" is just too meta. I don't think Hillary would go to that much effort to work in an insult that few would be likely to catch.

Not to mention, it's a double-edged sword; it plays to Hillary's base, which is mostly over 42, but hurt her with Obama's, which is mostly under. 42 is where there's a pretty clear divide in the polls. I guess we know the question to the answer now.

My senior year of college, I had a black roommate named Danny. One day, when we were engaged in some good-natured joshing, I began a sentence with "Boy ..." in my best Foghorn Leghorn accent. This was something I did with white, Asian, etc. friends, as well. It's like calling someone "kid" or "skippy" or "sparky," because you're a wise old man, all of two years older.

I caught myself, and apologized to Danny. It took him a couple of seconds to realize why I was apologizing, and he brushed it off.

40 posted on 01/22/2008 12:16:13 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: mbraynard

could you explain the expression “bless your heart”?


41 posted on 01/22/2008 2:50:37 PM PST by oblomov
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To: mbraynard

Most people would dislike getting boils at a debate.


42 posted on 01/22/2008 3:04:41 PM PST by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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To: mbraynard
The former first lady, who met King as a teenager in Chicago seven years before he was gunned down in 1968, paid tribute to Obama as an "extraordinary young African-American man."

Sounds patronizing to me.

And the media wouldn't call it "dislike" if it were a republican.

43 posted on 01/22/2008 3:06:43 PM PST by HIDEK6
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Apparently it is the polite, southern version of 'go F yourself.'

See here

44 posted on 01/22/2008 3:18:13 PM PST by mbraynard
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To: mbraynard
I think that this article may contain the real story behing the Clinton/Obama fight:

Hillary - Judged by the company she keeps By Steve Miller Tuesday, January 22, 2008

Hillary ClintonLAS VEGAS - The Nevada caucus is over, but several issues emerged that help define the woman selected to be the state Democratic Party’s nominee.

First and foremost, it took dozens of translators stationed in the caucus locations to help the majority of Clinton supporters understand speeches and fill out their ballots. These “voters” who could neither speak nor write in our nation’s language were asked (in Spanish) to sign a document attesting to the fact that they were in the United States legally. After obediently doing so, the majority voted for Hillary Clinton at caucus locations within the hotels where they’re employed.

Think about it, no matter what Obama says about this, he would lose. The night of the Dem debate in Nevada, I was laughing because a Hispanic man stood up during the Lutz focus group segment on FOX and angrily yelled that no Hispanic would ever vote for Obama, meaning that no Hispanic would vote for a Black man.

45 posted on 01/22/2008 3:23:38 PM PST by Eva
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To: DoughtyOne

you know dang well who she is..........LOL.....we all do by now. what we want to know is if there is a blue dress moment coming for the two of them.......


46 posted on 01/22/2008 3:29:32 PM PST by tioga (Beware: conservative with back to the wall. Proceed with extreme caution.)
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To: tioga

As strange as it may seem, I honestly don’t remember hearing about Huma before. I may have, but it sure didn’t stick if I did.

I somehow don’t think a blue stained dress is going to figure in this, but then maybe those rumors about Hillary weren’t so crazy after all.

Bwa ha ha ha...


47 posted on 01/22/2008 3:34:06 PM PST by DoughtyOne (< fence >< sound immigration policies >< /weasles >< /RINOs >< /Reagan wannabees that are liberal >)
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To: DoughtyOne

phone calls to hill at all hours are picked up by huma......NOT bill.


48 posted on 01/22/2008 3:35:12 PM PST by tioga (Beware: conservative with back to the wall. Proceed with extreme caution.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Huma was an intern in the White House when Hill discovered her and brought her into her elite circle.......she’s been with Hillary ever since. Huma’s ties to Saudi Arabia are deep....leaving one to wonder how a Saudi woman becomes Hillary’s indispensable aide with her night and day.
49 posted on 01/22/2008 3:37:25 PM PST by tioga (Beware: conservative with back to the wall. Proceed with extreme caution.)
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To: mbraynard

Who cares? Let them kill each other.


50 posted on 01/22/2008 3:43:53 PM PST by toddlintown (Building More Highways For Children---Huckleberry Talking Point)
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