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Posted on 01/22/2008 4:23:19 AM PST by William Tell 2
PITY THE Rockefellers. Try though they might, they never manage to get a Rockefeller elected president. Governors, senators and even a vice president have borne the Rockefeller name. Yet the presidency eludes them. And so they busy themselves playing kingmaker behind the scenes. Their latest project is Hillary Clinton.
Last Thursday, the public interest group Judicial Watch published a memorandum which the Clinton Library was forced to release under the Freedom of Information Act.
The 24-page memo shines a spotlight on Hillary’s little-known relationship with America’s mightiest oil and banking dynasty. Dated May 26, 1993 and addressed to “Hillary Rodham Clinton”, the memo comes from Senator John D. Rockefeller IV of West Virginia — better known as Jay Rockefeller — whose great-grandfather founded Standard Oil.
The memo lays out a detailed strategy for pushing the “Clinton reform plan” for universal health coverage. In it, Rockefeller snaps orders at Mrs. Clinton in the imperious tones of a man accustomed to obedience.
He instructs Hillary to get tough on critics of the health plan. “Impeach the credibility of opponents”, he writes. Portray them as “perpetrators”, “paid lobbyists” and purveyors of “ideological extremism”. Assign investigators to conduct “opposition research” on them and expose their “lifestyles”. Do not allow them “even one day without scrutiny”.
Regarding the need for a radio and TV advertising campaign, Rockefeller fumes, “Fundraising must begin immediately. I am frankly surprised that I have not been contacted or shown a plan for fundraising and media expenditures.”
Rockefeller plainly viewed Hillary as his subordinate, and the “Clinton reform plan” as his project. And no wonder. The plan we know as Hillarycare was originally Rockefeller’s idea.
“Health care was his major interest”, writes Joshua Green in The Atlantic. “The agony of watching his mother’s lengthy battle with Alzheimer’s had made him a crusader for universal health insurance, and in the years before Bill Clinton was elected he had organized labor and health interests toward that goal.”
Many Democrats urged Jay Rockefeller to run for president in 1992, but he declined and backed the Clintons instead.
On January 25, 1993 — only five days after his inauguration — Bill Clinton appointed Hillary chairman of his National Task Force on Health Care Reform. Prior to that, she had no history as a health care reformer. In order to carry out the assignment, she had to make a crash study, “bearing down and learning the mind-numbing intricacies of the health-care system”, The Atlantic reports.
More importantly, Hillary relied on the guiding hand of Jay Rockefeller, who watched closely over the Task Force. In their book The System, Haynes Johnson and David S. Broder report that Senator Rockefeller was “largely responsible for creating the coalition of pro-reform groups to campaign for passage of the Clinton plan and had opened his mansion in Rock Creek Park… to them for their first strategy meeting.”
Hillary might have been short on health care experience, but she had a long history of carrying water for the Rockefellers, in particular for David Rockefeller, patriarch of the Rockefeller clan, who led Chase Manhattan Bank for 21 years, as president, then chairman and CEO.
In 1989, Hillary had no national profile as a policymaker. She represented corporate clients for a crooked Arkansas law firm. Education reformer Marc Tucker hired Hillary that year as a lobbyist for his National Center on Education and the Economy (NCEE).
Tucker dreamed of imposing a Soviet-style school-to-work system on Americans, whereby the government managed every citizen’s life, steering children into career tracks and placing them in jobs after graduation. Rockefeller money funded Tucker’s think tank and David Rockefeller, Jr. — son of the Chase Manhattan chairman — sat on Tucker’s Board.
Eight days after Bill Clinton’s election, Marc Tucker wrote a letter to Hillary Clinton which began: “I still cannot believe you won. But utter delight that you did pervades all the circles in which I move. I met last Wednesday in David Rockefeller’s office with him, [then-Apple Computer CEO] John Sculley, Dave Barram and David Haselkorn. It was a great celebration. Both John and David R. were more expansive than I have ever seen them — literally radiating happiness. My own view and theirs is that this country has seized its last chance.”
Why David Rockefeller would be “radiating happiness” at the Clintons’ ascension to the White House is not clear. However, it is worrisome.
Something fishy is going on with the Clintons and Rockefellers. This election season, Americans need to dig deep and learn their hidden agendas.
Richard Lawrence Poe is a contributing editor to Newsmax, an award-winning journalist and a New York Times bestselling author. His latest book is The Shadow Party: How George Soros, Hillary Clinton and Sixties Radicals Siezed Control of the Democratic Party, co-written with David Horowitz.
Anyone remember those rumors from the 90’s that Bubba was really sired by a Rockefeller?
I suppose if she had been eligible for VA treatment she would have been cured.
Yes, she has 35 years experience that is true - a lifetime of experience in fraud, manipulation, dependency, cover-ups, using, whining, and blaming others while claiming ownership of achievements that were not/are not hers.
She is like the perennial bad weed in the garden, whose roots of deceit and destruction run deep and everywhere.
These people will not surrender power without war.
Positively unsavory.
We absolutely must get back to basic conservative, American principles. These megalomaniacs need to be excised from the public (and hidden) discourse.
Time for Bill and Hill to release all their papers...ALL of them.
Especially after the recent Democratic debate where Hillary told Obama that he has to stand behind HIS record. What a laugher that was.
“Rockefeller, David - former Chairman of Chase Manhattan; “Godfather of World Government”
Rockefeller, David Jr. - David Rockefeller”s son
Rockefeller, John D. IV “Jay” (D-WV) - U.S. Senator (1985-present); former Governor of West Virginia (1977-1985); David Rockefeller”s nephew
Rockefeller, Nicholas - partner of Perkins Cole LLP”
Like W.J. Clinton and John McCain
All members at Council on Foreign Relations.
Follow the influence, the power and the money.
"These people will not surrender power without war."
We're on the same side here but I need to point out that "those people" left the White House and the federal government- without a war- on 1/20/2001.
AV
Also, while the various domestic factions fight publicly over who takes credit for what, there are plenty of instances of ideological agreement between the leaders of both *sides*. Look at the united front against Bush waged by some in the State Department and the CIA, even as he stumped for open borders and acquiesced on various environmental issues, for example.
I have mentioned before that I have, in the past, personally known scions of various leading leftist families. I was clued into some of this after 9/11 when a member of one of the leading Soros-linked clans began holding up renegade CIA agent leaks as proof of the *illegality* of our actions in Iraq. I am also hearing recently that third & fourth generation members of these families, people born in the 1970s, are migrating to leadership positions in various ultra-leftwing organizations.These are under-educated partisans with nothing at all to recommend them except their inheritance and family name.It is the Kennedy family model.
No one *gave up power*. It is in their ultimate interests to have it appear that we still have a democratic voting system, even while they fight to get rid of the entire idea of a Republic. There are hints of internal differences on just what aspect of capitalism should hold sway, but it is obvious that centrally controlled economies are preferred. This is a Long War and so far, they have won more than they have lost, IMO, although, to be honest, the people I have known seem to feel they have lost much more than we all think that they have. I believe this simply shows that they feel totally entitled and that any deviation from their own goals is felt deeply as a severe defeat.
As to why 4th generation billionaires want to turn America into some form of communistic dictatorship of the elite, I really cannot fathom the answer. They mouth the usual platitudes of fairness and say they champion the poor and I think they really believe this is true. People who go along with them become wealthy themselves as they operate in ways that ensure that they are perceived as benefactors and they are very sensitive to what we plebes think about them, personally. I have seen this manifested all down the line, from casual dispensing of cash to people belonging to the various protected classes to elaborate *gifting circles* aimed at providing financial aid to various causes/institutions while obscuring the source of the money and recuiting new followers who end up with extra money,and who are then implicated in felonious activity, as well. All of this is aimed at controlling others. I think it would take someone well-versed in the heritablity of personality disorders to explain it adequately.
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This makes one wonder if the Perot Campaign wasn’t a creation by the Rockefellers and backdoor financed by them and their elite left wingers.
BTTT
You really can't? It wouldn't be that having tons of $ is not enough and power is what they seek? Why do you think they run for office? Only being VP or Senator doesn't give anyone the power to do whatever a person wants to do. They want more power, enough to exercise complete and total power over the country of their birth and the people who reside in it.
"They mouth the usual platitudes of fairness and say they champion the poor and I think they really believe this is true."
So does Hugo Chavez, and just like Hugo, they know that the poorest, most uneducated people are the ones they can fool into giving them the power they desire without the need to raise an army of their own for a military takeover.
Yes, indeedy. No way to know if it's true or not, given the slippery nature of Clintbilly. But it's certainly possible.
It would help explain why he spent his youth in Hot Springs--not Hope as he pretends--and why Senator Fulbright would nominate a nonentity for a Fulbright, although he was not qualified and never bothered to do a lick of work at Oxford.
Bill Clinton had some heavyweight patrons, growing up. Also, of course, the Dixie Mafia.
No question-—so easy to do with that kind of money.
Thanks Richard, keep me on it.
Well, yes, of course they want power. But what I find really counter intuitive is why people whose ancestors rose from immigrant to billionaire by dint of education, frugality and hard work (which is true of the people I knew), would throw that away in favor of policies that those very ancestors fled in order to find freedom.
One could argue, probably correctly, that capitalists also want power. So do those who champion liberty.
There are all sorts of poor people. Many of the Caucasian, Christian, rural poor are fiercely independent. Many under- educated folks have lots of common sense and know that there is a price to pay for being *given* something. I found, listening to the heirs of power, that they used the idea of the poor and the idea of fairness to gloss themselves in idealism because their real appeal was to the idealistic, young, comfortable, educated middle class.
I have come to the conclusion that there is some sort of familial personality disorder at the root of all this. I spent time with some of these people, knew their children, met their parents and they were not just evil power mongers at any cost. They were, actually, sort of pathetic and vulnerable. People who had everything, including the expectation of leadership, without the first clue as to what to do with it. They could buy positions of leadership through donations/grants, but could not lead, most likely because they have a really imperfect vision of where they are going themselves.
This is not true, IMO, of Soros and Strong and the other top tier manipulators. Those people are manipulating the other billionaires, not just the peons. They are the ones I think you describe perfectly. I believe they also made their own money and rose to wealth through any means possible, at anyone else’s expense, if necessary.
It is like a giant pyramid scheme with the same results. Only the people at the very top and a select few middle managers ever benefit. Everyone else is simply lunch.
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Thanks for the ping!
Why is it difficult to understand that the progeny of those who escaped the poverty and servitude of despots to build vast fortunes through hard work would want to become the despots/royalty? They aren't throwing away THEIR freedom, just ours. I wouldn't call it genetic, but more like the dark side of human nature.
"They [Soros et.al.] are the ones I think you describe perfectly. I believe they also made their own money and rose to wealth through any means possible, at anyone else’s expense, if necessary.
I believe there are far more of the Theresa Heinz, Jay Rockefeller, Teddy Kennedy, types involved in this - ones who have obtained vast wealth without having lifted a finger and are not content with spending their $ for their pleasure, but crave power and control over others and are willing to spend their $ to obtain it.
Personally, I'm not a CONspiracy theorist, but I certainly know how to recognize orchestration when I see it!!! (smirk)
The only reason he (Duncan Hunter) hasn't (caught on) is because FReepers and other conservatives are falling for Fred Thompson's fan dance.
48 posted on 06/02/2007 8:12:07 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
49 posted on 12/31/2007 3:14:57 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
Or Bill Jones in California.
Fred quit less than 48 hours after Hunter dropping out, supposedly because he can't get traction after losing on a KOS-inspired crossover vote in South Carolina. Yeah right, and CFR membership doesn't mean a thing. /s
And all this talk about a recession in the media doesn't have anything to do with the election either. It's just a coincidence that it takes about six months after a market crash for one to set in.
Gee, would the Clintons ever take advice like that? (snark)
Thanks for the ping. Very interesting.
bttt
As to the scions of American industry, they know they are worthless compared to their forebears and don't want to take any risks with all that lovely money. Fascism provides reliably predictable return while concentrating power in the cheapest politicians money can buy.
For the super European elite the stakes are higher. I suggest "To Eliminate the Opiate," by Rabbi Marvin S. Antelman.
I found this very interesting Richard. Thanks for the ping.
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Yes! . . and seeing the rousing success “universal” healthcare has been in Canada and the UK . . I mean . . we gotta have it!!
What a crock. Here's a woman whose husband could have bought the hospital and all the doctors in it, and Jay suddenly has this epiphany about universal health insurance? It's funny how when rich liberals show compassion for the little people, it's always with other people's money.
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Thanks for the ping. This is very interesting and I’d like to stay on your ping list.
Not as far-fetched as first meets the eye.
Winthrop Rockefeller, brother of Nelson, David, Laurance and John D. III was once Governor of Arkansas (1967-1971). His son, Winthrop Paul Rockefeller was later Lieutenant Governor of Arkansas.
Bill Clinton’s mentor, William J. Fullbright, and Winthrop Rockefeller had strong ties to the Dixie Mafia, centered, in Hot Springs, home of the boy wonder, Slick Willie.
They saw to it that Slick went to top schools, and then to Oxford, where he never attended classes, never received any degree or certificate, but did wander around mostly Communist Eastern Europe with seemingly unlimited funds, being received in the highest government circles.
Enter Hillary, and the rest is history.
You and I are not using "those people" in the same sense.
I am not referring solely to the Clintons.
Great post. You describe exactly the situation in this country— not just from reading informed articles, but from your first-hand knowledge. That’s rare.
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Bumperooooooooo!
Very interesting and I was not aware of the ‘tie in’ between the Clintons and the Rockefellers.
Very interesting article. Thank you!
Exactly. The whole story sounds like spin concocted by that leftist rag, The Atlantic.
A good reminder on the Rockefeller/Arkansa nexus.
Weren’t the Rockefellers the largest single landowners in AR?
Rumor was that Winthrop Rockefeller was gay and exciled by the rest of the family to Arkansas to eventually become governor.
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