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To: awakened; Jim Robinson
FTA: "A caseworker who spoke of missteps in the death of a child was fired. After unidentified city workers complained of pressure to hand contracts to Giuliani-favored organizations, investigators examined not the charges but the identity of the leakers."

You say "perhaps a Rudy who plays hardball to get the job done would be a welcome relief." But he's not playing hardball "to get the job done." He was punishing people who are trying to protect abused children who are wards of the court, interfering in the awarding of city contracts so his campaign contributors will get their payoff, destroying the careers of ordinary citizens who criticized any aspect of his administration.

Naturally as conservatives we hoot and high-five when the Left's bull is gored. But this stuff has much wider, deeper, and dirtier ramifications. It's an arrogant mailed-fist reflex that could maul you, me, or anybody if Rudy had the power of the Presidency.

I would fully expect conservative organizations that crossed him to face retaliation once Rudy had a firm grip on the Federal Government's multiplex mechanisms of revenge. FReeper Rudy fans might be shouting Hallelujah for 3 minutes, but ALL of us be guarding our words and watching our backs for the next 3 1/2 years.

26 posted on 01/22/2008 7:22:38 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Sorry: Tag-line presently at the dry cleaners. Please find suitable bumper-sticker instead.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Yep — which is why I said “perhaps *A* Rudy who plays hardball TO GET THE JOB DONE” would be a welcome relief. (I did NOT say “Rudy who played hardball for his own purposes...” Fred Thompson would have (will?) played hardball to get the job done. Playing hardball is definitely called for. Getting the job done is definitely called for. I never said Rudy’s actions were admirable and in fact made it clear I would not vote for him.


28 posted on 01/22/2008 7:37:09 AM PST by awakened (Remember -- There are no dead atheists.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
But this stuff has much wider, deeper, and dirtier ramifications. It's an arrogant mailed-fist reflex that could maul you, me, or anybody if Rudy had the power of the Presidency.

I have no problem at all imaging President Giuliani using the FBI and the IRS in the same way he used local law enforcement during his mayoralty.

For example the assumption that "ant-terrorism" laws are not threat to the freedoms of average citizen's rests on the assumption that they will be reasonably enforced - at least Giuliani's minions had to dig up decade old traffic warrants to arrest his critics, under anti-terrorism laws they would not even need that, they could act entirely on the basis of any sort of nebulous association with "subversive" individuals they chose.

33 posted on 01/22/2008 8:19:24 AM PST by M. Dodge Thomas (Opinion based on research by an eyewear firm, which surveyed 100 members of a speed dating club.)
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