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FIGHTING LIBERALS BY BECOMING LIBERAL - AN ESSAY
mybrain | 1-22-08 | adm5

Posted on 01/22/2008 2:31:03 PM PST by adm5

It's brilliant actually.


TOPICS: US: South Carolina; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: fred; fredthompson; mclame; opus; puke; rant
Nice job South Carolina.

South Carolina should have been the kind of people who respect and understand a man like Fred Thompson. South Carolina is supposed to be a state full of Conservatives.

They should have known that Fred was the only choice. Period. End of debate.

But they elected the candidate most opposite of Fred. That would be the Amnesty-granting, Gang-of-14-leading, Bush tax-cut opposing, 1st Amendment attacking (McCain-Feingold), "Maverick" (RINO) Senator John "Did you know he was a P.O.W. in Vietnam?" McCain.

I am officially done with the Republican party, I will not vote for President, and my only hope is that after the democrats win the White House, the damage is minimal to our country and that somehow/someway conservatives can take back our party. Either that or how about we start another party free of RINO's and liberals?

Excuse me while I go puke.

Oh and to those that say not voting will guarantee a democrat wins the White House...I SAY GOOD. Our Country deserves a Jimmy Carter at this point so that we can be blessed with a Ronald Reagan afterwards.

Our party and apparently "conservatives" in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina have decided that we need to become more liberal in order to beat the liberals. That makes a ton of sense.

I refuse to vote for any of the other so-called Republican candidates.

/rant

1 posted on 01/22/2008 2:31:04 PM PST by adm5
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To: adm5

Don’t hold back. How do you really feel?


2 posted on 01/22/2008 2:38:03 PM PST by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: adm5

I saw a comment today that those of us who won’t obediently vote for any given republican aren’t conservatives. How about that, I won’t vote for a liberal so I must be one.


3 posted on 01/22/2008 2:44:40 PM PST by cripplecreek (Duncan Hunter, Conservative excellence in action.)
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To: adm5
I just saw Bush on TV surrounded by a diverse group of bankers and socialists. They're going to form some kind of economic education committee. The talking head commented that a bank buyout was the only solution to Americas problems.

The country is being run by people too stupid (or too dishonest) to see that anti-competitive bank consolidation and uncontrolled money printing is the cause of the economic crisis and they're going to print more money to bail out the mega-banks while the socialists posture around and give recommendations on how to properly distribute the hyper-inflation.

4 posted on 01/22/2008 2:48:32 PM PST by shuckmaster
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To: adm5
Yes. And to fight liberals, we need to listen to the liberal media when they tell us who our candidate should be. When they tell us the conservative we want and need and who seems to be within striking distance of the others can't win, we should believe them and pick a CINO to vote for instead.

And when when they tell us that if we don't want CINO A we have to vote for CINO B to keep him from winning instead of voting FOR the conservative in the race, we should do it every time. This is the strategy we need to continue to follow to beat liberals. It's certainly worked well so far in this election.

5 posted on 01/22/2008 2:51:59 PM PST by Route66 (America's Main Street - - - Fred D. Thompson / Consistent Conservative...The One with Gravitas)
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To: shuckmaster

The blind leading the blind.


6 posted on 01/22/2008 3:14:50 PM PST by a_chronic_whiner (I'M WITH STUPID, If you can't beat them, make their life miserable.)
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To: cripplecreek

I don’t feel that way at all, I just think the likelihood of real irreversible damage done to our country is more likely to be done by Shrillary, Obamalamadingdong and the breck gal, in that order.

A glass half full (or even a few drops in it or even bone dry) is better than a broken glass!

My principles, in this particular case, come after buying time for our country.

But I have kids and want the best for them, there’s much to consider, but I can understand your opinion of not voting.


7 posted on 01/22/2008 3:24:07 PM PST by tpanther
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To: adm5
1st Amendment attacking (McCain-Feingold)

Thompson voted for that too. Hello in there. It's like going to hell to fight the devil.

8 posted on 01/22/2008 3:30:36 PM PST by LifeOrGoods? (Save the Republican party: Vote Romney!!!)
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To: LifeOrGoods?

Thompson, at least, repudiated that vote.


9 posted on 01/22/2008 3:49:50 PM PST by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: adm5

As Heavy Weapons Guy says, ‘’cry some more.’’ your pet candidate lost, fine. The least you can do now is to support the best of the remaining candidates, which at this moment is likely Romney.


10 posted on 01/22/2008 3:56:03 PM PST by Terpfen (It's your fault, not Pelosi's.)
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To: adm5

Well, you’re describing my thoughts in good detail.


11 posted on 01/22/2008 3:59:11 PM PST by DoughtyOne (< fence >< sound immigration policies >< /weasles >< /RINOs >< /Reagan wannabees that are liberal >)
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To: tpanther

Are you saying our beloved Republican members of Congress won’t be able to keep an errant liberal POTUS in check?

I’m, shocked!


12 posted on 01/22/2008 4:01:51 PM PST by papasmurf (RuPaul is less damaging to our Country than the "Leftovers".)
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To: Terpfen

That’s YOUR opinion. You own it. We don’t want it, and we’re not buying, leasing, or renting it.

I’d vote for RuPaul before I’d pull the lever for the three “leftovers”.

At least I could laugh my way through misery.


13 posted on 01/22/2008 4:04:07 PM PST by papasmurf (RuPaul is less damaging to our Country than the "Leftovers".)
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To: papasmurf

So you admit that you’re pulling a Chicken Little, and are more interested in a pity party than in salvaging the situation.

Glad that’s cleared up.


14 posted on 01/22/2008 4:09:26 PM PST by Terpfen (It's your fault, not Pelosi's.)
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To: papasmurf

I’m saying they’ll circumvent that and then blame them for their own shortcomings.

And remember all the noise made about Bush being on vacation all the time?

Clinton spent more money than any other president, flying abroad on trips, IN FACT more than the other presidents still alive COMBINED (including Ford at the time), and was virtually on vacation the entire 8 years!


15 posted on 01/22/2008 4:17:09 PM PST by tpanther
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To: Terpfen

Whatever.

At least RuPaul won’t kill any babies. Won’t hug any homos. Won’t release mass murderers. Won’t raise my taxes. Won’t take my guns. Won’t “partner” with the Chinese. Won’t leave the gate open for illegals. Won’t “tax” Veterans benefits.

In fact, I’d bet Myth squats to take a leak, as well.


16 posted on 01/22/2008 4:18:37 PM PST by papasmurf (RuPaul is less damaging to our Country than the "Leftovers".)
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To: tpanther

Hey, people lost their chance to support a real Conservative, one you could sleep with your eyes closed.

Now, no matter who it is, you’ll be wide eyed at night.

$10.00 says Myth pushes for a “special class” legislation for homos in his first year. There goes more jobs to special interests.


17 posted on 01/22/2008 4:21:41 PM PST by papasmurf (RuPaul is less damaging to our Country than the "Leftovers".)
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To: papasmurf

Whatever makes you feel better.

I’ve always wondered what a conservative who uses the same overemotional thought processes as a liberal would look like. Now I know.


18 posted on 01/22/2008 4:25:08 PM PST by Terpfen (It's your fault, not Pelosi's.)
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To: Terpfen
The least you can do now is to support the best of the remaining candidates, which at this moment is likely Romney.

You may be right. How sick is that?

19 posted on 01/22/2008 4:29:11 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: papasmurf

True, but to what degree? In other words...wide eyed with any of the RINO’s vs wide eyed, in the fetal position on the floor in the corner of a dark closet if any of the hypocrats get elected.


20 posted on 01/22/2008 4:39:27 PM PST by tpanther
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To: papasmurf

I agree better to write in Ron Paul then not vote.


21 posted on 01/22/2008 4:44:56 PM PST by Bruce 22-250 (Vote stop the WITCH!)
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To: shuckmaster
Kinda boils down to the “Power of Money”..doesn't it...
The Founding Fathers understood that completely...hence..... ART. 1 sec. 8...”CONGRESS” shall have the POWER..To coin money, regulate the Value thereof...(gold and silver)
That was there so we could hold someone responsible with our vote...Try voting out the Federal Reserve..
Even Greenspan understood that http://www.321gold.com/fed/greenspan/1966.html
22 posted on 01/22/2008 5:04:27 PM PST by M-cubed (Why is "Greshams Law" a law?)
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To: tpanther

Vote Liberal, or we’ll shoot this country.

I’m with the ranter. If ‘solid conservative’ states think hiring a liberal is the answer to liberalism, let’s go with that and maybe we get Reagan.

I think after the stellar job this Congress has done, we may end up picking up seats, but who knows based on the IDIOTS who voted for the Huckster and McCain.


23 posted on 01/22/2008 5:08:41 PM PST by RinaseaofDs (If you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything)
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To: adm5

***Sigh***

I retire from the USAF in three years.

I wonder what will be left at that time...


24 posted on 01/22/2008 5:19:14 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: RinaseaofDs

In some ways, I think the left infiltrated the party, but while they were attacking our flag, they left theirs unguarded; but at the end of the day that may have been their strategy all along.

They get McCain worst case, while we get Shrillary worst case.

Doesn’t seem like a good trade to me at all!

But we’ve also been our own enemy, for instance allowing them to drive the agenda, defining the lexicon...and FOX, and others fell for that trap for years!

I’d have preferred people like Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity hammer home the fact that it’s not ‘pro-war’ or ‘anti-war’ for instance but ‘pro liberation of Iraq’, or ‘anti-terror’, etc.

Same for ‘pro-choice’...how about ‘pro-infanticide’?

And so on...

WAY too much crap going unchallenged put forth by the drive-by media.

I even visited an elderly couple and their dtr about my age didn’t get the jokes about global warming. I pointed out they still have snow on the ground.

And how unseasonally cold it’s been, and made the joke it must be that global warming again.

She laughed but said something like yeah, it’s really affecting the climate!

Rational people are sold lies, that eventually it’s just absorbed subliminally as truth.

Obama asserted the money spent on the Iraq war would have paid for every bridge and every road to be rebuilt...in this whole country!

Yet I’ve not heard ONE person, not Rush, NO ONE challenge that perposterous claim!

No one expects him to be an economic or math professor, but come on!


25 posted on 01/22/2008 5:24:25 PM PST by tpanther
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To: Lancey Howard

I honestly think we can be in much worse condition than running Romney.

Better Romney than McCainiac.


26 posted on 01/22/2008 5:28:06 PM PST by Terpfen (It's your fault, not Pelosi's.)
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To: tpanther

I agree. It seems like the size and volume of the, you can call them lies, but its more outsized fantasticisms “The money spent on Iraq could pay to replace all the bad bridges in the US - the cold weather is a sign of global warming - weakness is strength” has never been higher.

I’m reading ‘The Sword and The Shield’ which is a summary of the Mitrokhin Archive - an almost comprehensive history of the KGB. This is the sort of thing the Soviets trucked in - massive lies, outsized fallacy, massive plots that simply weren’t there.


27 posted on 01/22/2008 8:37:53 PM PST by RinaseaofDs (If you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything)
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To: RinaseaofDs

yes, and the national socialists of Germany circa 1920-1945.


28 posted on 01/22/2008 9:42:35 PM PST by tpanther
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To: papasmurf
In fact, I’d bet Myth squats to take a leak, as well. Off your meds???
29 posted on 01/22/2008 9:53:49 PM PST by stocksthatgoup (Number1FredHeadSwitch2Mitt)
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To: stocksthatgoup

Did you think that up all by yourself?


30 posted on 01/22/2008 10:09:16 PM PST by papasmurf (RuPaul is less damaging to our Country than the "Leftovers".)
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To: adm5
But they elected the candidate most opposite of Fred. That would be the Amnesty-granting, Gang-of-14-leading, Bush tax-cut opposing, 1st Amendment attacking (McCain-Feingold), "Maverick" (RINO) Senator John "Did you know he was a P.O.W. in Vietnam?" McCain.

You do realize that one of our senators is Lindsey Graham, don't you?

They should have known that Fred was the only choice. Period. End of debate.

I find it interesting that you have chosen blame conservatives in three separate states for your candidates loss and to mock them for their choice.

Well, I am one of those South Carolinians that did vote for Thompson. And guess what? I am not mad at the other voters. Why? Because I am mad at Thompson. He entered the race late (he moves at a procrastinating pace) and ran the most ho hum campaign of all the candidates.

I did get to see Fred campaigning over in York. I took this picture of him as he was telling the crowd how he expected them to get the word out.


31 posted on 01/22/2008 10:14:04 PM PST by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: tpanther

“Obama asserted the money spent on the Iraq war would have paid for every bridge and every road to be rebuilt...in this whole country!

Yet I’ve not heard ONE person, not Rush, NO ONE challenge that perposterous claim!”

The only clip you will see from the media about Obama is when he sticks it to the Clintons, or when he’s talking about hope and flowers and uniting Republicans and Democrats. His actual policy statements, the few he bothers to make, are so embarassing that the media immediately sweeps them under the rug to protect their “historic” candidate. Are those quotation marks racist? I’m sure some Obama supporter - and there seem to be a growing number on FreeRepublic as their already huge and insane web presence grows - will say that they are.


32 posted on 01/23/2008 12:26:53 AM PST by COgamer
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To: adm5
FIGHTING LIBERALS BY BECOMING LIBERAL

Hmmm...Seems liberals did a pretty good job of destroying the Republican party by pretending to be conservatives.

33 posted on 01/23/2008 12:41:37 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: adm5

GOP, 1856-1/22/2008

RIP.


34 posted on 01/23/2008 1:05:48 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: cripplecreek

>>I saw a comment today that those of us who won’t obediently vote for any given republican aren’t conservatives. How about that, I won’t vote for a liberal so I must be one.<<

Since we are at best gonna get our third choice and we are all compromising its better if we could get away from attacking you or any other fellow Freepers conservatism and just talk about what the best thing to do is.


35 posted on 01/23/2008 1:15:05 AM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: Between the Lines
I find it interesting that you have chosen blame conservatives in three separate states for your candidates loss and to mock them for their choice.

Obviously I am not speaking of Thompson voters when I speak of the particular state.

But I do blame "Conservatives" in those states for NOT voting for Fred. I also blame the system that allows 3 or 4 states (mostly liberal) to choose who MY candidate options are.

I live in Texas. I did not get to vote for whom I thought would be the best person for the job. Nope, Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina got to essentially vote for the entire nation in the great weeding out process.

Life isn't fair, and I know that. But I wonder if Texas, Oklahoma, Mississippi, Alabama, Alaska, Idaho and Wyoming had primaries before Iowa and the rest; What would be the outcome?

36 posted on 01/23/2008 4:39:42 AM PST by adm5 (Courtesy of the Fred, White & Blue.)
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To: papasmurf

Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe Ru PAul is the only candidate remaining who has not been hostile to the RKBA.


37 posted on 01/23/2008 4:43:22 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Between the Lines
He entered the race late

Actually, no. Everyone else started a year early.

38 posted on 01/23/2008 4:47:38 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: adm5
Life isn't fair, and I know that. But I wonder if Texas, Oklahoma, Mississippi, Alabama, Alaska, Idaho and Wyoming had primaries before Iowa and the rest; What would be the outcome?

Be careful what you wish for. For decades Iowa and New Hampshire had always thinned out the candidates to two or three before we here in very conservative South Carolina got a chance to vote. I thought that this year was going to be great. Real conservatives would have a chance to choose the candidate. But as you can see, it turned out to be a total embarrassment. And I fear that the outcome would be simular had any other conservative state been in our position instead.

39 posted on 01/23/2008 6:01:54 AM PST by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: COgamer

Yup...right on both counts!


40 posted on 01/23/2008 11:02:42 AM PST by tpanther
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