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Heath Ledger Found Dead In NY Apartment (Breaking News)
TMZ via Fox News ^ | January 22, 2008 | Staff

Posted on 01/22/2008 2:47:07 PM PST by WmShirerAdmirer

"New York Police Department confirms actor Heath Ledger, 28, found dead in his New York City apartment, which was strewn with pills." | PHOTOS | VIDEO

Live reports at 5:45 PM, Quoting TMZ Source, via Fox News: Actor Heath Ledger, 28, was found dead in his apartment bedroom by his housekeeper and masseuse at 3:30 PM this afternoon. Police are telling TMZ it was an accidental drug overdose and not foul play. Ledger was found with perscription pills strewn around the bed.

TMZ also says the apartment is "not" owned by Mary Kate Olsen

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KEYWORDS: brokeback; dead; heathledger; hollywood; msmtopstory; stilldead
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To: meanman
Image hosted by Photobucket.com if i ever had to watch that brokebutt movie, I'd prolly have to consider it myself!!!
51 posted on 01/22/2008 3:25:40 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: inkling

Yeah, I would withdraw any negative comment at all. I was upset about something else at the time.


52 posted on 01/22/2008 3:26:59 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: Chode

Shame on you.


53 posted on 01/22/2008 3:28:13 PM PST by pcottraux
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

Loved him in “A Knight’s Tale” So sad.


54 posted on 01/22/2008 3:30:41 PM PST by I'm ALL Right! (THOMPSON '08)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer
Todd Schnitt just said on his talk show that a friend of Heath's gave a statement saying he was shocked at the death, but not at all surprised.

Looks like this guy had an obvious monkey on his back that he couldn't shake off.

Hope they investigate the doctor who was writing all those "prescriptions" to see if everything is kopacetic.

In show biz especially, you can obtain ANYTHING you want that is forbidden, illegal, evil or dangerous if you can pay for it......and there's always plenty of shadowy figures around to provide what you want.

Leni

55 posted on 01/22/2008 3:31:53 PM PST by MinuteGal (Fun Freepathon Contest (movies) Now Underway on Thread IV. Details # 19. ENTER NOW!)
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To: BuffaloJack

Suicide is the ultimate act of selfishness.


56 posted on 01/22/2008 3:32:34 PM PST by cowdog77 (Circle the Wagons)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

The daughter was by the actress who played his wife in Brokeback Mountain. It really was life imitating art as his character Ennis had two daughters by Alma, Williams’ character.


57 posted on 01/22/2008 3:33:13 PM PST by MHT
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To: cowdog77

We don’t know that it was a suicide yet. Maybe you should withhold these kinds of comments until we have the whole story.


58 posted on 01/22/2008 3:35:10 PM PST by pcottraux
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

This planet is a hard place to live sometimes. God Bless him. I hope he’s found peace.


59 posted on 01/22/2008 3:36:35 PM PST by Brucifer (G. W. Bush "The dog ate my copy of the Constitution.")
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

I truly am sorry, but it confounds the mind that someone with so much potential who should have no trouble leading a happy life would choose to kill himself.


60 posted on 01/22/2008 3:37:41 PM PST by SALChamps03
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

That’s two....


61 posted on 01/22/2008 3:45:01 PM PST by texpat72 (<><)
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To: SALChamps03
I truly am sorry, but it confounds the mind that someone with so much potential who should have no trouble leading a happy life would choose to kill himself.

Look at Owen Wilson, you would have thought he had the world but he tried suicide, luckily unsuccessful.

We really do have some heartless buttheads on this site, condemning a man over a role he acted in. Tom Selleck is a well-respected conservative and he played a homosexual in a movie, why not trash him? Anyway, prayers for Mr. Ledger and his family.

62 posted on 01/22/2008 3:56:50 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: SALChamps03

My opinion. Not worth much.

There are drugs (new?) out there right now which are very dangerous and are causing lots of accidental deaths amoung young and middle-aged people. We had one incident of a member of our family (in another state) was found dead. He was walking home, had taken a short-cut through a vacant lot when he collapsed. Drug overdose.

What seems new about this pattern, is that death usually follows a long, drawn out history of drug use — but this recent picture shows them dying earlier in their drug experimentation — almost like they aren’t aware or cannot control the outcome.


63 posted on 01/22/2008 3:57:29 PM PST by i_dont_chat (Your choice if you take offense.)
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To: pcottraux
I am on your side...I was being sarcastic about knowing his political affiliation....

I am still in a state of shock over this death...totally unexpected and a great talent gone in a heartbbeat.

RIP Mr. Heath....

64 posted on 01/22/2008 3:57:43 PM PST by alisasny (RIP Lt. Kevin “Kojak” Davis BLUE ANGELS #6 THANKYOU!!)
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To: pcottraux
The man is dead, and politics gets thrown out the window. People should be respectful no matter what.

Sorrow for his family. No respect at all for a suicide who chose to put them through it. He apparently performed one of the absolutely most cowardly and selfish actions a person can do.

I speak from direct experience.

65 posted on 01/22/2008 3:59:55 PM PST by LexBaird (Behold, thou hast drinken of the Aide of Kool, and are lost unto Men.)
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To: what's up
Granted, I enjoy movies for entertainment, but I don't exactly respect someone for being able to act. I mean, I don't see that being able to act is a noble quality.

It's a skill like any other. I respect someone who has the talent and dedication to do it well -- which is also true of plumbers, mechanics, ball-players, cabinet-makers, cellists, and so on.

On a separate but related topic, I have no problem with actors and musicians who weigh in on politics. They're citizens like anyone else, and like anyone else, some present an articulate, well though out argument, and others are idiots, with most in between.

66 posted on 01/22/2008 4:00:19 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: ReignOfError
I respect someone who has the talent and dedication to do it well -- which is also true of plumbers, mechanics

Somehow I respect someone who can fix pipes, car engines, build cabinets and play intricate music a whole lot more than someone who can cry or laugh on cue.

67 posted on 01/22/2008 4:04:32 PM PST by what's up
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

God bless his soul.
If indeed it was suicide- only God should judge him...


68 posted on 01/22/2008 4:04:58 PM PST by citizencon
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

with his daughter Matilda last fall
69 posted on 01/22/2008 4:07:46 PM PST by iowamark
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To: LexBaird; All
He apparently performed one of the absolutely most cowardly and selfish actions a person can do.

Talk of suicide is premature. I don't think it's been determined whether his death was suicide or an accidental drug overdose and he was known to have substance abuse problems.

70 posted on 01/22/2008 4:08:47 PM PST by inflorida
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To: pcottraux
Let's hope they at least finished all necessary shooting for the Dark Knight.

What a tragedy.

71 posted on 01/22/2008 4:09:18 PM PST by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: what's up

“I don’t exactly respect someone for being able to act. I mean, I don’t see that being able to act is a noble quality.”

Seems to me acting is like any other profession (or craft). It takes a lot of work to develop acting skills. Only a very few who set out to become actors make good at it, though, so you also have to have a lot of drive and persistence. I admit, I have a personal stake in this — a daughter who’s determined to be an actress — I see how hard she works at it. You have to respect anyone who’s good at their craft.
That said: Lots of people who are extremely good at what they do professionally are not particularly admirable in other aspects of their lives. That goes for actors, and everybody else.
You admire them for their abilities and hard work at their craft, you don’t necessarily admire them for anything else.
As for Ledger: he was still pretty young, only 28. He was a good actor, could have been one of the major stars of the future. The death is a tragedy We don’t know enough of the circumstances, I think, to say any more. My prayers go to his family and friends.


72 posted on 01/22/2008 4:09:50 PM PST by EdJay
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To: alisasny
I am on your side...I was being sarcastic about knowing his political affiliation....

I apologize. There have been just so many tasteless and reprehensible comments, it's easy to mistake sarcasm for the real thing.

73 posted on 01/22/2008 4:12:22 PM PST by pcottraux
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To: LexBaird

But we don’t know that it was suicide yet, so I think we should reserve judgement until we have all the facts.


74 posted on 01/22/2008 4:13:38 PM PST by pcottraux
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To: Cyropaedia

They are. But I can’t help but wonder if this will affect the release in any way.

Plus, from what I heard, there was going to be a part 3 that Ledger was signed on for.


75 posted on 01/22/2008 4:14:28 PM PST by pcottraux
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To: EdJay
It takes a lot of work to develop acting skills

Actually, I think for a lot of people acting like someone they're not comes very naturally.

Especially in the world of 3 minute takes in movies...I don't see a whole lot of skill involved.

True, some can cry better than others but I just don't see that as noble.

I like to be entertained by actors, but I can't say I respect them. Unless I know of something they've done off-screen that's worthwhile.

76 posted on 01/22/2008 4:17:31 PM PST by what's up
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To: i_dont_chat; All
SIZING UP AMERICA'S DRUG PROBLEM:

60% of the world's illegal drug market is in the U.S.A. (with 6% of the world's population);

Over 20 million Americans use Marijuana;

An estimated 6 million Americans use Cocaine;

An estimated half a million Americans use Heroin;

An estimated 13 million Americans are alcoholics;

Almost 1/3 of Americans between ages 20 and 40 have used an illicit drug once in the past year

Almost 1/2 of Americans Entering the work Force have used an illicit drug once in the past year.

Many of these drug users are prominent citizens in our communities.
They are business owners, doctors, civic leaders, parents and neighbors.

Consider the profile of a regular cocaine user:

Well educated [average of 14 years of education] Employed [77%] and well-paid [37% earn over 25K] 56% engage in illegal activity other than drug possession to support the habit.

[Source: National Drug Task Force Journal]

77 posted on 01/22/2008 4:21:20 PM PST by spectre (spectre's wife)
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To: spectre
An estimated 13 million Americans are alcoholics;

My mangers is a pushing 40 still thinks he is a frat boy in college he is a drunk. Most of my co-workers are drunks. Most of them have stories of DUI or driving down the wrong side of the highway.

78 posted on 01/22/2008 4:26:36 PM PST by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM")
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To: SALChamps03
I truly am sorry, but it confounds the mind that someone with so much potential who should have no trouble leading a happy life would choose to kill himself.

That's premature. It could have been an accidental OD, a previously undiagnosed ailment, or a freak combination of factors. According to CNN's story, a police spokeswoman said the pills were OTC sleeping pills -- it would take a lot of effort to commit suicide that way. Sleeping pills, alcohol, perhaps other drugs, maybe an organic ailment, that would do it.

That said, it's always a shock when a star commits suicide - though it happens fairly often. A lot of folks go into show business because of a deep-seated need to be lived by everyone all the time. They outrun their demons all the way to the finish line, but the demons still catch up. For most of us, it makes no sense to kill yourself when youre living the dream; but if you have that psychological drive, what happens when you achieve your wildest dreams, no dreams left to chase, and it's still not enough?

It's none of my business, really, but I wonder if there's a family history of suicide. It tends to run in families -- Just look at the Hemingways. Not because it's genetic, but because it's precedented.

Suicide is the ultimate selfish act, laying down all your burdens and burdening everyone who loves you. "Suicide is painless," as the song goes. But for all the pain, abandonment and anger it leaves behind, the child, spouse, sibling of a suicide is left with the fact that someone they loved and respected made that choice -- so it's no longer beyond the pale. It's a last resort, but a resort.

79 posted on 01/22/2008 4:27:31 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: L98Fiero
In all seriousness, are you really surprised at some of these responses given the tone of this place as of late?

Nope.

80 posted on 01/22/2008 4:34:06 PM PST by silent_jonny (Huckabee—THE DNC’S CHOICE)
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To: pcottraux
Get this : his ex, Michelle Williams, is at Sundance to promote a film where she plays a woman trying to cope with her life after the death of her husband.

Just damn.

81 posted on 01/22/2008 4:36:41 PM PST by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: Cyropaedia

Before the Joker, he also played a young man who’s life is ruined by drugs in “Candy.”


82 posted on 01/22/2008 4:38:48 PM PST by pcottraux
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To: STARWISE

Yep. He did a “John Cuzak” and only starred in weird flicks that no one watched.


84 posted on 01/22/2008 4:40:08 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: LexBaird

Uhh...ever heard of something called an “ACCIDENTAL overdose?” It was known that he was having sleeping trouble and was taking different over-the-counter medications (that he was becoming addicted to).


85 posted on 01/22/2008 4:41:46 PM PST by pcottraux
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To: pcottraux
God rest his soul. He was a talented 28 year-old with a young daughter. Some people really are tasteless around here.

"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. - Jesus, Matthew 5:43-45

"But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. " - Jesus, Luke 6:27-28

"Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse." - Paul, the apostle; Romans 12:14

As were many, I was bothered by some his of film roles and public comments. I wonder how many forgot to pray for him and for God to help him with wisdom. I know that I did.

86 posted on 01/22/2008 4:44:16 PM PST by Ghengis (Of course freedom is free. If it wasn't, it would be called expensivedom. ~Cindy Sheehan 11/11/06)
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To: Ghengis

Well said.


87 posted on 01/22/2008 4:46:25 PM PST by pcottraux
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To: Ghengis
I wonder how many forgot to pray for him and for God to help him with wisdom

If you do this with the hundreds of Hollyweirdo's who star in lousy roles and speak junk you will be on your knees 24/7 with no time for anything else.

88 posted on 01/22/2008 4:46:32 PM PST by what's up
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To: TexasNative2000

whoever said that is going to burn in hell a lot worse than heath ledger


89 posted on 01/22/2008 4:47:48 PM PST by LSUsoph
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To: what's up

Jesus loves died for them, too, as much as the rest of us.


90 posted on 01/22/2008 4:48:04 PM PST by pcottraux
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To: pcottraux

Jesus loves all. But all do not deserve respect.


91 posted on 01/22/2008 4:48:56 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

The dead ALWAYS deserve respect. Anyone who forgets that is a shameful human being.


92 posted on 01/22/2008 4:54:04 PM PST by pcottraux
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

He was great in the Patriot, and I liked A Knight’s Tale. I never saw Brokeback and probably won’t but I liked him as an actor.

He had a young daughter and pretty wife. So sad. It’s amazing that so many of these people simply can’t handle fame and fortune. You’d think he would have had everything to live for and stay clean so he could really enjoy life.

It’s a sad situation and I offer prayers for his survivors and for his eternal soul. GG


93 posted on 01/22/2008 4:56:23 PM PST by GatorGirl (Election 2008--It's all about the judges!!)
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To: pcottraux
The dead ALWAYS deserve respect.

Does that include those such as Hitler and Stalin?

94 posted on 01/22/2008 5:04:21 PM PST by appleharvey
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To: pcottraux
The dead ALWAYS deserve respect

Really? Do you think those in Hell really deserve respect?

(Now, I'm not saying Ledger is...far from it...I do not know his relationship with God.)

But, really. Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, Mao...do you respect them?

95 posted on 01/22/2008 5:05:01 PM PST by what's up
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To: pcottraux
Uhh...ever heard of something called an “ACCIDENTAL overdose?”

Yes. 95% of the time it's the euphemism used for either "suicide" or "too addicted to depressants to control oneself". The other 5% is real dosage error, stupid binging/mixing contraindicated drugs or body chemistry malreaction. Even then, it is almost entirely avoidable with a microgram of thought about what you are putting in your body.

96 posted on 01/22/2008 5:09:38 PM PST by LexBaird (Behold, thou hast drinken of the Aide of Kool, and are lost unto Men.)
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To: appleharvey; what's up

Do you guys think there’s a legitimate comparison between Hitler and Stalin and Heath Ledger?


97 posted on 01/22/2008 5:10:05 PM PST by pcottraux (I can't tell the difference between Carl Cameron and Chris Wallace.)
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To: SuziQ
Wonder if it was a lingering sense of disgust over the scenes he did in that movie.
98 posted on 01/22/2008 5:11:04 PM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: LexBaird

But we still don’t KNOW, and until we do, I think we should reserve judgement.


99 posted on 01/22/2008 5:13:17 PM PST by pcottraux (I can't tell the difference between Carl Cameron and Chris Wallace.)
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To: pcottraux

Tagline edit.


100 posted on 01/22/2008 5:15:18 PM PST by pcottraux (I can't tell the difference between Carl Cameron, Chris Wallace, or Bill McCuddy.)
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