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Study: False statements preceded war(Barf Alert!)(Soros funded)
AP via Yahoo News ^ | 1/22/08 | AP via Yahoo News

Posted on 01/22/2008 7:16:38 PM PST by Santa Fe_Conservative

WASHINGTON - A study by two nonprofit journalism organizations found that President Bush and top administration officials issued hundreds of false statements about the national security threat from Iraq in the two years following the 2001 terrorist attacks.

The study concluded that the statements "were part of an orchestrated campaign that effectively galvanized public opinion and, in the process, led the nation to war under decidedly false pretenses."

The study was posted Tuesday on the Web site of the Center for Public Integrity, which worked with the Fund for Independence in Journalism. White House spokesman Scott Stanzel said he could not comment on the study because he had not seen it.

The study counted 935 false statements in the two-year period. It found that in speeches, briefings, interviews and other venues, Bush and administration officials stated unequivocally on at least 532 occasions that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction or was trying to produce or obtain them or had links to al-Qaida or both.

"It is now beyond dispute that Iraq did not possess any weapons of mass destruction or have meaningful ties to al-Qaida," according to Charles Lewis and Mark Reading-Smith of the Fund for Independence in Journalism staff members, writing an overview of the study. "In short, the Bush administration led the nation to war on the basis of erroneous information that it methodically propagated and that culminated in military action against Iraq on March 19, 2003."

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1 posted on 01/22/2008 7:16:39 PM PST by Santa Fe_Conservative
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative

ANY group with a name that starts with “Center for...” usualy means Ralph Nader or one of his clones.


2 posted on 01/22/2008 7:18:07 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative

Title should really be “Leftist PC Morons Just Can’t Get a Clue”


3 posted on 01/22/2008 7:18:41 PM PST by Enchante (Patriots, 18-0 baby!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative
"It is now beyond dispute that Iraq did not possess any weapons of mass destruction or have meaningful ties to al-Qaida" when they finally got around to looking years later, after almost everything had been relocated out of the country.
4 posted on 01/22/2008 7:19:11 PM PST by FoxInSocks
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative
"It is now beyond dispute that Iraq did not possess any weapons of mass destruction or have meaningful ties to al-Qaida," according to Charles Lewis and Mark Reading-Smith

...who evidently have never heard of Halabja or Ansar al-Islam. I don't think this study need be taken very seriously.

5 posted on 01/22/2008 7:20:36 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative

6 posted on 01/22/2008 7:21:03 PM PST by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative
We've seen much less of this story since Saddam Hussein was hanged.

Guess his daughter cut back on the subsidy checks to his supporters preferring to keep the family forture for the future.

7 posted on 01/22/2008 7:23:23 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative
"It is now beyond dispute that Iraq did not possess any weapons of mass destruction or have meaningful ties to al-Qaida,"
Thus put it in perspective.
It is far from being "beyond dispute" on both accounts.
Russia knows where the WMDs are.
 
8 posted on 01/22/2008 7:23:46 PM PST by counterpunch (I flip-flopped from Fred to Mitt)
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative
How many “false” statements from the Clinton administration on Iraq’s WMD and ties to terrorist? Must have been a lot since in 1998 the congress voted for regime change and even before then Clinton bombed Iraq not to mention the countless times Saddam fired at our jets patrolling the NFZs.
9 posted on 01/22/2008 7:24:34 PM PST by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative

Ooooooo. These are non-profit journalist organizations. Why, that must mean they are beyond reproach. There’s no possibility that left-wing ideological bias (code for “outright lying”) could be their modus operandi. I love how this is considered “breaking news” on all the search engine websites. Nope. No bias there. /sarcasm/


10 posted on 01/22/2008 7:28:05 PM PST by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

“The study was posted Tuesday on the website of the Center for Public Integrity, which worked with the Fund for Independence in Journalism. “

One of them appears to be another Soros front group:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_Public_Integrity#Funding_from_George_Soros


11 posted on 01/22/2008 7:29:22 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: FoxInSocks

This is so dishonest that I seriously want to strangle the person writing it.

I know they’ve done zero investigations of the matter other than to parrot the Dem/MSM line. There’s been countless shells and other WMD related materials and the links to al Qaeda are clear as day to those not blinded with BDS like the AP. I’ve documented HUNDREDS of members of Saddam’s regime caught working with al Qaeda and many in custody have already admitted they worked together pre invasion.

Suck frikkin liars. AAAHHHHHHH


12 posted on 01/22/2008 7:29:31 PM PST by ikez78 (http://www.regimeofterror.com)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Center for Public Integrity has been, as could be expected, funded by George Soros.


13 posted on 01/22/2008 7:30:10 PM PST by MitchellC
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To: weegee

Not surprising.


14 posted on 01/22/2008 7:30:42 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: Bishop_Malachi

S - O - R - O -S

The Clintons Lied People Died. And America looks forward to making the same mistake again despite a Constitutional limit on the number of terms a president can serve in office.


15 posted on 01/22/2008 7:31:45 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative
. It found that in speeches, briefings, interviews and other venues, Bush and administration officials stated unequivocally on at least 532 occasions that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction or was trying to produce or obtain them

Iraq DID have WMDs...just ask the Kurds and the Iranians.
16 posted on 01/22/2008 7:32:19 PM PST by crazyhorse691 (The faithful will keep their heads down, their powder dry and hammer at the enemies flanks.)
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To: ikez78

The French, Germans, and Russians who were BOUGHT OFF by Saddam Hussein in the oil for food scam should have been hung after the war with Saddam’s Iraq ended (and yes that Iraq war is done, we fight a different enemy now ALONGSIDE Iraq, not against it).


17 posted on 01/22/2008 7:33:21 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative

These people are so shameless in their attempts to influence politics with BS “polls” and “studies.” This ranks up there with the Lancet story


18 posted on 01/22/2008 7:37:53 PM PST by ikez78 (http://www.regimeofterror.com)
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative
I’m waiting for the independent “Ministry of Sillywalks” report before I take any of this serious.
19 posted on 01/22/2008 7:40:01 PM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: weegee; All

I’ve been calling the AP, check AP.org - it is still their lede story, and letting them know this is a Soros group and then calling out the legitimacy of the story and the outright bias and dishonesty and it’s really getting to them.

PLEASE CALL EVERYONE
2126211500


20 posted on 01/22/2008 7:42:32 PM PST by ikez78 (http://www.regimeofterror.com)
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To: tobyhill
Funny you should mention that.

I knew all the "weapons of mass destruction" spin was complete bullsh!t the first time those words ever emanated from the mouth of that dysfunctional loser and predatory sexual deviant.

I've pretty much been a supporter of George W. Bush throughout his term, but to be honest with you nothing his administration said ever changed my mind about that.

21 posted on 01/22/2008 7:45:04 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative
1999 VIDEO: ABC News Report Linking Saddam Hussein And Osama Bin Laden
22 posted on 01/22/2008 7:45:09 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead)
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative

Public opinion must have topped 50% for the war and now the “Independent Journalist” have to try and drive it back down.


23 posted on 01/22/2008 7:46:00 PM PST by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: Alberta's Child
There was never any dispute in the 90s that Saddam had WMD and ties to terrorism but as soon as President Bush came into office the media considered him illegitimate and changed all rules of credibility standards. There was never any real unity after 911, the Rats and MSM were just playing a game while scheming to undercut the inevitable wars.
24 posted on 01/22/2008 7:53:41 PM PST by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: tobyhill
If I remember right the WMD angle wasn’t played up at first, the regime change objective was, but legal questions were raised about using war to accomplish that. So the Bush administration dropped that objective publicly and amped up the WMD worries. Either reason I don't really care. America is better off with Iraq's socialist dictator problem fixed.

As Monica was testifying about Clinton's lies to a grand jury, BJ sent a billion dollars worth of cruise missiles into Osama bin Laden's compound. It didn't serve a military purpose, only stirred up a hornets nest. This led to 9/11 which was a revenge cruise missile attack. Why doesn't the media ever bring up Clinton's string of lies and misuse of power?

25 posted on 01/22/2008 7:57:22 PM PST by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: counterpunch

What Saddam had were sent to Syria for safe keeping. He was sure that he could bluff the UN inspectors.


26 posted on 01/22/2008 7:59:27 PM PST by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative

Of course when you check your mail on Yahoo this is one of their main headlines.


27 posted on 01/22/2008 8:00:22 PM PST by willk
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To: Reeses
That is correct, the regime change wasn’t brought up, that was on Clinton’s watch and that was my point but there was more than just 2 reasons congress gave President Bush authority to go to war.
28 posted on 01/22/2008 8:03:07 PM PST by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative

ATTACKS ON THE UNITED STATES WHILE WM. J. CLINTON WAS PRESIDENT

Followed by the Attack on September 11 – May 2003

1993 Feb. 26, New York City: bomb exploded in basement garage of World Trade Center, killing 6 and injuring at least 1,040 others. In 1995, militant Islamist Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman and 9 others were convicted of conspiracy charges, and in 1998, Ramzi Yousef, believed to have been the mastermind, was convicted of the bombing. Al-Qaeda involvement is suspected.

1995 Nov. 13, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: car bomb exploded at U.S. military headquarters, killing 5 U.S. military servicemen.

1996 June 25, Dhahran, Saudi Arabia: truck bomb exploded outside Khobar Towers military complex, killing 19 American servicemen and injuring hundreds of others. 13 Saudis and a Lebanese, all alleged members of Islamic militant group Hezbollah, were indicted on charges relating to the attack in June 2001.

1998 Aug. 7, Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania: truck bombs exploded almost simultaneously near 2 U.S. embassies, killing 224 (213 in Kenya and 11 in Tanzania) and injuring about 4,500. 4 men connected with al-Qaeda 2 of whom had received training at al-Qaeda camps inside Afghanistan, were convicted of the killings in May 2001 and later sentenced to life in prison. A federal grand jury had indicted 22 men in connection with the attacks, including Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden, who remained at large.

2000 Oct. 12, Aden, Yemen: U.S. Navy destroyer USS Cole heavily damaged when a small boat loaded with explosives blew up alongside it. 17 sailors killed. Linked to Osama bin Laden, or members of al-Qaeda terrorist network.


29 posted on 01/22/2008 8:07:30 PM PST by malia ( Fred Thompson, you stay in there. I know you can do it!!! Prayers are said for your mother.)
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To: malia

If The Bush Administration Lied About WMD, So Did These People — by John Hawkins

“The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow.” — Bill Clinton in 1998

Since we haven’t found WMD in Iraq, a lot of the anti-war/anti-Bush crowd is saying that the Bush administration lied about Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction. Well, if they’re going to claim that the Bush administration lied, then there sure are a lot of other people, including quite a few prominent Democrats, who have told the same “lies” since the inspectors pulled out of Iraq in 1998. Here are just a few examples that prove that the Bush administration didn’t lie about weapons of mass destruction...

“[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.” — From a letter signed by Joe Lieberman, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Milulski, Tom Daschle, & John Kerry among others on October 9, 1998

“As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.” — Nancy Pelosi, December 16, 1998

“Even today, Iraq is not nearly disarmed. Based on highly credible intelligence, UNSCOM [the U.N. weapons inspectors] suspects that Iraq still has biological agents like anthrax, botulinum toxin, and clostridium perfringens in sufficient quantity to fill several dozen bombs and ballistic missile warheads, as well as the means to continue manufacturing these deadly agents. Iraq probably retains several tons of the highly toxic VX substance, as well as sarin nerve gas and mustard gas. This agent is stored in artillery shells, bombs, and ballistic missile warheads. And Iraq retains significant dual-use industrial infrastructure that can be used to rapidly reconstitute large-scale chemical weapons production.” — Ex-Un Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter in 1998

“Saddam’s goal ... is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while retaining and enhancing Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction programs. We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed.” — Madeline Albright, 1998
“(Saddam) will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and some day, some way, I am certain he will use that arsenal again, as he has 10 times since 1983” — National Security Adviser Sandy Berger, Feb 18, 1998
“Iraq is not the only nation in the world to possess weapons of mass destruction, but it is the only nation with a leader who has used them against his own people.” — Tom Daschle in 1998

“This December will mark three years since United Nations inspectors last visited Iraq. There is no doubt that since that time, Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to refine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer- range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies.” — From a December 6, 2001 letter signed by Bob Graham, Joe Lieberman, Harold Ford, & Tom Lantos among others

“Whereas Iraq has consistently breached its cease-fire agreement between Iraq and the United States, entered into on March 3, 1991, by failing to dismantle its weapons of mass destruction program, and refusing to permit monitoring and verification by United Nations inspections; Whereas Iraq has developed weapons of mass destruction, including chemical and biological capabilities, and has made positive progress toward developing nuclear weapons capabilities” — From a joint resolution submitted by Tom Harkin and Arlen Specter on July 18, 2002

“Iraq made commitments after the Gulf War to completely dismantle all weapons of mass destruction, and unfortunately, Iraq has not lived up to its agreement.” — Barbara Boxer, November 8, 2002

“The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retained some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capability. Intelligence reports also indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons, but has not yet achieved nuclear capability.” — Robert Byrd, October 2002

“There’s no question that Saddam Hussein is a threat... Yes, he has chemical and biological weapons. He’s had those for a long time. But the United States right now is on a very much different defensive posture than we were before September 11th of 2001... He is, as far as we know, actively pursuing nuclear capabilities, though he doesn’t have nuclear warheads yet. If he were to acquire nuclear weapons, I think our friends in the region would face greatly increased risks as would we.” — Wesley Clark on September 26, 2002

“What is at stake is how to answer the potential threat Iraq represents with the risk of proliferation of WMD. Baghdad’s regime did use such weapons in the past. Today, a number of evidences may lead to think that, over the past four years, in the absence of international inspectors, this country has continued armament programs.” — Jacques Chirac, October 16, 2002

“In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security.” — Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002

“I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons...I saw evidence back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up and then moving those trucks out.” — Clinton’s Secretary of Defense William Cohen in April of 2003

“Saddam Hussein’s regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal.” — John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

“The debate over Iraq is not about politics. It is about national security. It should be clear that our national security requires Congress to send a clear message to Iraq and the world: America is united in its determination to eliminate forever the threat of Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction.” — John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

“I share the administration’s goals in dealing with Iraq and its weapons of mass destruction.” — Dick Gephardt in September of 2002

“Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf and we should organize an international coalition to eliminate his access to weapons of mass destruction. Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.” — Al Gore, 2002

“We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction.” — Bob Graham, December 2002

“Saddam Hussein is not the only deranged dictator who is willing to deprive his people in order to acquire weapons of mass destruction.” — Jim Jeffords, October 8, 2002
“We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.” — Ted Kennedy, September 27, 2002

“There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein’s regime is a serious danger, that he is a tyrant, and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass destruction cannot be tolerated. He must be disarmed.” — Ted Kennedy, Sept 27, 2002

“I will be voting to give the president of the United States the authority to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.” — John F. Kerry, Oct 2002

“The threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but as I said, it is not new. It has been with us since the end of that war, and particularly in the last 4 years we know after Operation Desert Fox failed to force him to reaccept them, that he has continued to build those weapons. He has had a free hand for 4 years to reconstitute these weapons, allowing the world, during the interval, to lose the focus we had on weapons of mass destruction and the issue of proliferation.” — John Kerry, October 9, 2002

“(W)e need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. We all know the litany of his offenses. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. ...And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. That is why the world, through the United Nations Security Council, has spoken with one voice, demanding that Iraq disclose its weapons programs and disarm. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but it is not new. It has been with us since the end of the Persian Gulf War.” — John Kerry, Jan 23, 2003

“We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandates of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them.” — Carl Levin, Sept 19, 2002

“Every day Saddam remains in power with chemical weapons, biological weapons, and the development of nuclear weapons is a day of danger for the United States.” — Joe Lieberman, August, 2002

“Over the years, Iraq has worked to develop nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. During 1991 - 1994, despite Iraq’s denials, U.N. inspectors discovered and dismantled a large network of nuclear facilities that Iraq was using to develop nuclear weapons. Various reports indicate that Iraq is still actively pursuing nuclear weapons capability. There is no reason to think otherwise. Beyond nuclear weapons, Iraq has actively pursued biological and chemical weapons. U.N. inspectors have said that Iraq’s claims about biological weapons is neither credible nor verifiable. In 1986, Iraq used chemical weapons against Iran, and later, against its own Kurdish population. While weapons inspections have been successful in the past, there have been no inspections since the end of 1998. There can be no doubt that Iraq has continued to pursue its goal of obtaining weapons of mass destruction.” — Patty Murray, October 9, 2002

“There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years. And that may happen sooner if he can obtain access to enriched uranium from foreign sources — something that is not that difficult in the current world. We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.” — John Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002

“Saddam’s existing biological and chemical weapons capabilities pose a very real threat to America, now. Saddam has used chemical weapons before, both against Iraq’s enemies and against his own people. He is working to develop delivery systems like missiles and unmanned aerial vehicles that could bring these deadly weapons against U.S. forces and U.S. facilities in the Middle East.” — John Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002

“Whether one agrees or disagrees with the Administration’s policy towards Iraq, I don’t think there can be any question about Saddam’s conduct. He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do. He lies and cheats; he snubs the mandate and authority of international weapons inspectors; and he games the system to keep buying time against enforcement of the just and legitimate demands of the United Nations, the Security Council, the United States and our allies. Those are simply the facts.” — Henry Waxman, Oct 10, 2002


30 posted on 01/22/2008 8:16:31 PM PST by malia ( Fred Thompson, you stay in there. I know you can do it!!! Prayers are said for your mother.)
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To: Enchante

according to Charles Lewis and Mark Reading-Smith of the Fund for Independence in Journalism staff members, writing an overview of the study. “In short, the Bush administration led the nation to war on the basis of erroneous information that it methodically propagated and that culminated in military action against Iraq on March 19, 2003.”

I just read “Shaddow warriors, and I t shows how the French and the Leftist American Media and the Democrats set this whole thing up...Doccumented the whole way through...these to Morons are just shills for the Left, and deliberate Liars.


31 posted on 01/22/2008 8:18:39 PM PST by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: ANGGAPO
Unfortunately, that portion of Saddam's WMDs was buried at Deir al Zour, the same site as the Syrian "reactor" building destroyed by the IAF. My guess is the Syrians were going to use the facility as a dirty-bomb factory to fashion warheads using the buried HEU and other goodies nearby.

There are foreign intelligence agencies from every major nation that witnessed the ten-week, Russian-assisted transfer of WMDs into Syria immediately before the invasion. Those guys must be shaking their heads over how clueless the American public is.
32 posted on 01/22/2008 8:22:25 PM PST by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative

Did this study also track the false statements by Bill Clinton, UN delegates and intelligence reports dating back to the mid nineties?


33 posted on 01/22/2008 8:22:50 PM PST by ilgipper
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To: Thrownatbirth

Is there any evidence of this. I feel it is accurate, but hate to use this point in arguments w/o a source.


34 posted on 01/22/2008 8:24:20 PM PST by ilgipper
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To: malia
***November 16, 1997 Cohen made a widely reported appearance on ABC’s This Week in which he placed a five-pound bag of sugar on the table and stated that that amount of anthrax “would destroy at least half the population” of Washington, D.C. Cohen explained how fast a person could die once exposed to anthrax. “One of the things we found with anthrax is that one breath and you are likely to face death within five days. One small particle of anthrax would produce death within five days.” And he noted that Iraq “has had enormous amounts” of anthrax. Cohen also spoke on the extreme lethality of VX nerve agent: “One drop [of VX] from this particular thimble as such — one single drop will kill you within a few minutes.” And he reminded the world that Saddam may have enough VX to kill “millions, millions, if it were properly dispersed and through aerosol mechanisms.”***

http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraq-20040623.htm

http://edition.cnn.com/WORLD/9609/03/iraq.clinton/transcript.html

35 posted on 01/22/2008 8:28:10 PM PST by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: ilgipper

Sure. Hit the PreWarDocs link and read the first post by John Loftus.


36 posted on 01/22/2008 8:29:10 PM PST by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative
Then there's this.

Be sure to share this with your liberal friends.

 

37 posted on 01/22/2008 8:30:19 PM PST by MNnice (Da ma Dakota)
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To: malia

Does that mean that those people were telling the truth or that Bush believed the lies?


38 posted on 01/22/2008 8:37:18 PM PST by CJ Wolf (To Join or leave the offical Ron Paul 'let freedom' Ping, Freepmail me.)
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative

Bookmarked. Good thread. Great for references.


39 posted on 01/22/2008 8:42:34 PM PST by zgirl
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To: MNnice

Wow I’ve never seen this before!!!! thanks!!!!


40 posted on 01/22/2008 8:48:59 PM PST by malia ( Fred Thompson, you stay in there. I know you can do it!!! Prayers are said for your mother.)
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative
A study by two nonprofit journalism organizations found that President Bush and top administration officials issued hundreds of false statements..."nonprofit", not to be confused with "nonpartisan".......
41 posted on 01/22/2008 8:53:57 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Are we stuck in the movie “Ground Hog Day” or what???

I keep waking up to the same bogus story day after day after day.


42 posted on 01/22/2008 8:56:32 PM PST by Edit35
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative

Why didn’t they start their study in 1998 when Clinton virtually went to war with Iraq? Bush did nothing more than implement the policy of the Clinton Administration, which called for the removal of Sadaam.


43 posted on 01/22/2008 8:57:57 PM PST by RobbyS
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative
two nonprofit journalism organizations

Right. No one believes ANY "journalism organization." Oh, wait; maybe it's the Slimes - they're pretty much "nonprofit" these days.

44 posted on 01/22/2008 9:01:23 PM PST by hsalaw
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To: hsalaw

heh


45 posted on 01/22/2008 9:04:13 PM PST by MNnice (Da ma Dakota)
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To: ANGGAPO

I don’t think the WMD went to Syria, just through Syria.
Russia supplied Saddam with his WMD, and so they took them back.
Russia didn’t want their Russian origin to be exposed any more than it already had been.
And likewise, Saddam didn’t want another state in the region to get them either.
None of those countries trust one another.


46 posted on 01/22/2008 9:35:52 PM PST by counterpunch (I flip-flopped from Fred to Mitt)
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative

Hit your search engines and enter the name of each organization along with the word “Soros”. Ole George S. is at it again, something the reporter could have determined in about ten seconds if (s)he’d bothered to.


47 posted on 01/22/2008 11:30:18 PM PST by ArmstedFragg
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To: weegee
One of them appears to be another Soros front group:

And a director of the other one wrote the introduction for one of Soros' books.

48 posted on 01/22/2008 11:32:12 PM PST by ArmstedFragg
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative

"Together we must also confront the new hazards of chemical and biological weapons, and the outlaw states, terrorists and organized criminals seeking to acquire them.  Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade, and much of his nation's wealth, not on providing for the Iraqi people, but on developing nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them."
President Clinton, Jan. 27, 1998

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them.  That is our bottom line."
President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program.  He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members.  It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here.  For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Feb 18, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002
 

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction.  "[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein.  He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime...  He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation.  And now he has continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction...  So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003


"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations.  Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

"There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs.  Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status.  In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region.  He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October 1998.  We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years .  We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do."
Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

49 posted on 01/23/2008 2:28:25 AM PST by Beckwith (Dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative

If George Bush were dishonest, the Weapons of Mass Destruction would have been “found” a long time ago.


50 posted on 01/23/2008 2:31:52 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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