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From Each According to His Ability... Hillary Clinton's quest for economic justice
Reason ^ | January 23, 2008 | Jacob Sullum

Posted on 01/23/2008 5:20:01 AM PST by .cnI redruM

During this week's Democratic presidential debate, Hillary Clinton said putting together the right kind of stimulus package is "a part of economic justice." The remark reflected a major campaign theme for the New York senator, who has declared she would pursue "a new vision of economic fairness" as president.

That slogan should set off alarm bells for anyone who recognizes that economic outcomes result from myriad individual choices. To impose her vision of economic fairness, Clinton would have to override those choices, compromising freedom in the name of equality.

Clinton's aim is economic equality, not legal equality, and you really can't have both. As the economist and political philosopher F.A. Hayek observed, equal treatment of people with unequal abilities leads to unequal outcomes. In this sense social justice is, if not a "mirage," as Hayek argued, at least in conflict with procedural justice.

So it's not surprising that many of the policies Clinton believes promote economic fairness strike others as decidedly unfair. In 2006, for example, she endorsed a successful Commerce Department petition by Syracuse candle makers to impose a tariff of more than 100 percent on candles imported from China.

"Our manufacturers deserve a level playing field," Clinton explained, "and we owe it to them to make sure that others do not unfairly circumvent our fair trade practices." In Clinton's view, then, fairness demands that all Americans pay more for candles to subsidize manufacturers in her state.

More generally, Clinton advocates "smart" trade rather than free trade, insisting on "strong protections for workers and the environment" that reduce the competitive advantages of foreign producers. She wants "jobs that cannot be shipped overseas," which can be achieved only by interfering with companies' profit-maximizing (and consumer-benefiting) decisions. For her, globalization is not what happens naturally when people are free to exchange goods and services on mutually agreeable terms; it's a process that needs to be "managed properly."

Clinton wants to "curb the excesses of the marketplace," which in her view include not just foreign competition but high salaries for corporate CEOs, risk-based insurance premiums, and foreclosures on the homes of people who fail to make mortgage payments. Intent on implementing her "new economic blueprint," she overlooks the possibility that such practices developed for sound reasons and that arbitrarily limiting or abolishing them might have unintended consequences.

When it comes to fiscal policy, Clinton seems to see herself as a kindergarten teacher "fairly" doling out cupcakes, giving no thought to who baked them in the first place. In a recent New York Times interview she worried that "inequality is growing" and waxed nostalgic for the "confiscatory" tax rates of the post-World War II decades.

Clinton would use higher taxes to pay for universal preschool, universal college, universal health care, and universal high-speed Internet access, among other taxpayer-funded goodies. These she calls "the investments we make in each other," and they are just like investments, except that there is no reliable test of whether they make sense, since the people paying for them have no choice in the matter and are not the ones who stand to benefit.

There's a similar problem with Clinton's proposal to "create millions of new jobs by investing in clean energy" through a $50 billion Strategic Energy Fund. When a politician talks about the jobs government spending will create, it's usually a signal that the spending cannot be defended on its own merits. A Strategic Thumb Twiddling Fund could create millions of new jobs too.

In the Times interview Clinton suggested that as president she would be prepared to ram through her economic program on straight party-line votes. "If you really believe you have to manage the economy," she said, "you have to stake a lot of your presidency on it."

The history of central planners and their failures suggests a different lesson: If you really believe you have to manage the economy, you shouldn't be president.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clintons2008; economy; hillary; marxism; milliondollarmarxist; orwelliannightmare; starkravingsocialism
Hillary is here to take away all of your risk. This involves taking your freedom away as well, but just go back to sleep and don't let that one bother you much.
1 posted on 01/23/2008 5:20:03 AM PST by .cnI redruM
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To: .cnI redruM

In Hillary’s world, we’ll all be working at gunpoint, otherwise, there will be no incentive to produce.


2 posted on 01/23/2008 5:25:07 AM PST by Sig Sauer P220
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To: Sig Sauer P220

Point Barrow could become the next Maxim Gorky...


3 posted on 01/23/2008 5:26:45 AM PST by .cnI redruM (President Hillary would make Point Barrow the next Maxim Gorky)
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To: .cnI redruM
Social Justice isn't.
Social Work doesn't.
Social Studies aren't.
4 posted on 01/23/2008 5:32:03 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Oh, am I hijacking your rant?)
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To: .cnI redruM
Yes, Hillary IS the Marxist-Leninist that everyone says she is.

She is taking off the mask and now believes that we have lulled the vast amount of Americans hooked on government benefits or at least enough Americans NOT paying taxes but getting some kind of subsidies, that it's now time to get the "rich to pay for all."

5 posted on 01/23/2008 5:33:23 AM PST by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: Sig Sauer P220

If Hillary becomes president, I’ll retire and let the rest of you support me. I’m damned sick and tired of getting up early every day.


6 posted on 01/23/2008 5:35:01 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: .cnI redruM

sounds like a good time to move to a low stress, low pay job in a comfortable town; let someone else pay the freight!


7 posted on 01/23/2008 5:37:42 AM PST by glide625
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To: .cnI redruM

How about this one: equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome....

oh wait, that’s what we have now so why would those whose choices necessarily limit their outcome want to vote for Hillary?


8 posted on 01/23/2008 5:39:10 AM PST by craig_eddy
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To: .cnI redruM

Hitlary is just trying to out Stalin Baaaarack O.


9 posted on 01/23/2008 5:42:29 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: .cnI redruM

Under Hillary’s regimelife here will make the communist bloc Nations of the 50’s and 60’s seem luxious. She and her henchmen will be wealthy and live a life of luxury and the rest of the Country will starve.

With the field of candidates the Republican Party now field a Hillary Presidency is now a foregone conclusion.


10 posted on 01/23/2008 5:44:05 AM PST by sport
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To: .cnI redruM
I really don’t know why NOBODY wants to simply call here what she is, a socialist/communist. Is that an obsolete word? Will that make the attacker seem out of touch?

It’s funny, I had a short conversation with a woman who is planning on voting for Hillary. I respectfully asked why and she said, “I just think it’s time to have a woman in office”, “America seems read for it”. Is there another reason why?, I asked, .......”crickets chirping”......

This woman had no idea who she was voting for, but by God she is a woman and it’s time.

Voting should be an earned right.

11 posted on 01/23/2008 5:44:14 AM PST by SQUID
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To: .cnI redruM

Hillary is a communist. She will take money from those who have some because of their hard work, and give it to those who have none because of low mental capacity, laziness, substance addiction, low self-esteem.


12 posted on 01/23/2008 5:48:02 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: .cnI redruM

The first step was to make failure criminal. Outlaw failure and you guarantee there will be no more success.


13 posted on 01/23/2008 5:54:35 AM PST by DManA
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To: .cnI redruM

Hillary wants to destroy what made America great: the ability for a man to be rewarded for investing his full potential to make an honest living.


14 posted on 01/23/2008 5:59:41 AM PST by abishai
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To: .cnI redruM
And she's the very one running for POTUS that is the 'smartest woman in the world' and the most qualified to determine every person's abilities and current individual's circumstance in light of the fact she could not pass the DC bar, BUT, all that makes her qualified to take what she wants.

Unnn huh....

15 posted on 01/23/2008 6:02:37 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: abishai
Are we now a nation of true idiots? I can't think of any other reason for the sorry state of the Repub slate and the Hillary or Obama Commie Jugernaut. I guess the Dewey Mann Secular Humanism Temples (i.e., government schools) have just about completed their mission.

Am I going to have to explain to my children and grandchildren why the American Dream was perverted and thrown away? Great.

16 posted on 01/23/2008 6:03:06 AM PST by elk
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To: SQUID
I, for one, have absolutely NO PROBLEM with voting for a woman for president. Just not this particular one.

If Hillary! was a man, I wouldn't vote for him, either.

17 posted on 01/23/2008 6:03:34 AM PST by wbill
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To: .cnI redruM

I am surprised that she is exposing her vision. What a fabulous opportunity for a conservative to debate, educate and WIN!


18 posted on 01/23/2008 6:11:50 AM PST by mom.mom
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To: elk

I wouldn’t say idiots. I would say lazy and ignorant.

Much of Hillary’s support comes from: 1) People who want to destroy the U.S 2)People who have no loyalty to the United States and its heritage (immigrants) 3)People who are too lazy to get up and make their own living and want to leech off of others (welfare) 4) People who know nothing on their own, and let the media and others think for themselves 5) Generations indoctrinated that America’s heritage is full of rich, evil, white men, and it needs progressive change now.


19 posted on 01/23/2008 6:12:00 AM PST by abishai
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To: .cnI redruM

A communist in communist clothing. At least she doesn’t bother to doll it up. She is telling the American populace that they are incapable of managing their own affairs, that they are inept at recognizing their true duties to society, that she knows best what is good for each and every one of us.
However, the failing remains the same...Hillary, like all the other megalomaniacs in Washington, refuses to realize that government funds ultimately come from only ONE source, the people. And, once the people have had enough, there will still be Hell to pay.
These socialist bastards need to be put out to pasture. Get them out of the way, free up the engine of commerce, and set the world aright...
That is the US destiny. Let’s get started.


20 posted on 01/23/2008 6:14:58 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion...)
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To: .cnI redruM
"a part of economic justice." ... "a new vision of economic fairness"

In other words ... SOCIALISM! Haven't these idiots gotten through their heads yet? In every country where it has been tried it has failed. Period. I know, they firmly believe that the only reason it has a 100% failure rate is that these other dolts weren't as smart as they are, and that the right people haven't been in charge. BS. Socialism sucks, in any and all forms. Take a hike Hillary.

21 posted on 01/23/2008 6:18:25 AM PST by CodeMasterPhilzar
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To: elk

Generations of union-run, government school indoctrination; teaching everything but what made America great.

If parents who understand American principles don’t teach those principles directly to their kids, in a few more generations those prinicples will be completely lost.


22 posted on 01/23/2008 6:32:03 AM PST by Adams
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To: ClearCase_guy
That might be why I’m not particularly Sociable...
23 posted on 01/23/2008 6:32:16 AM PST by .cnI redruM (President Hillary would make Point Barrow the next Maxim Gorky)
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To: glide625
It makes me glad I’m a civil servant. It will be the ONLY growth industry if we’re dumb enough to elect the witch.
24 posted on 01/23/2008 6:33:07 AM PST by .cnI redruM (President Hillary would make Point Barrow the next Maxim Gorky)
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To: elk

Just blame the rich. It’s easier and saves you the stress of thinking.


25 posted on 01/23/2008 6:34:03 AM PST by .cnI redruM (President Hillary would make Point Barrow the next Maxim Gorky)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“What’s better than quality? Equality.”

-Michael Scott, The Office


26 posted on 01/23/2008 6:53:45 AM PST by Skenderbej
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To: abishai
"Hillary's supporters"

You left out the merely envious-of-what-others-have people who number in the millions. Like many of my Dem friends who start frothing at the mouth about the money professional athletes or entertainers make. They begin spouting stuff about it not being fair that someone else makes more than they do.

I would bet that particular group accounts for the majority of Dem voters. They are mostly angry and dissatisfied with their lot in life. That they have more than ninety-five percent of the people on the planet does not occur to them.

27 posted on 01/23/2008 7:47:30 AM PST by driftless2
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To: .cnI redruM

28 posted on 01/23/2008 7:52:00 AM PST by Gritty (Hillary Clinton devotedly and deeply believes in a European-style socialism - Dick Morris)
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To: wbill

Well, that’s my point. You vote on principals, not physical attributes, that very few use as a means to choose a desired candidate.

I have no problem with a woman being president either as long as she is willing to actually stick to the Conservative principals.


29 posted on 01/23/2008 7:52:45 AM PST by SQUID
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To: .cnI redruM

Wesley Mouch in action for social equality


30 posted on 01/23/2008 8:19:48 AM PST by woollyone (entropy extirpates evolution and conservation confirms the Creator blessed forever.)
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To: woollyone
Tell me about it...
She is an Ayn Rand villian in real life.
31 posted on 01/23/2008 8:39:48 AM PST by .cnI redruM (President Hillary would make Point Barrow the next Maxim Gorky)
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To: .cnI redruM

She looks more like a Balph Eubank to me.


32 posted on 01/23/2008 10:26:06 AM PST by the lastbestlady (I now believe that we have two lives; the life we learn with and the life we live with after that.)
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To: the lastbestlady
Her husband is Balph. Balph the Malph.
33 posted on 01/23/2008 11:44:42 AM PST by .cnI redruM (President Hillary would make Point Barrow the next Maxim Gorky)
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To: .cnI redruM
No doubt! LOL
Ayn Rand definitely had a way with names!
34 posted on 01/23/2008 11:52:53 AM PST by the lastbestlady (I now believe that we have two lives; the life we learn with and the life we live with after that.)
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To: the lastbestlady
Her villain names remind me of that chapter of Freakonomics about the awful baby names.
35 posted on 01/23/2008 11:55:20 AM PST by .cnI redruM (President Hillary would make Point Barrow the next Maxim Gorky)
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To: .cnI redruM
No kidding.
I always thought the names she came up with for her heroes/heroines were quite good as well.
Oh well. Who is John Galt?
36 posted on 01/23/2008 12:05:17 PM PST by the lastbestlady (I now believe that we have two lives; the life we learn with and the life we live with after that.)
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To: .cnI redruM
There are rich Republicans, there are poor Republicans.

There are rich Democrats, there are poor Democrats.

There are rich Socialists, there are poor Socialists.

There are rich Communists, there are poor Communists.

The only difference in these political designations is who leads them and how they go about implementing their philosophies. If you are lucky enough to have a benevolent ruling hierarchy you and yours will prosper. If not, well then you get Hell.

As of the last few election cycles we have been heading in the direction of National Socialism with only a brief respite (the Reagan terms). This trend is made abundantly clear in that there is no longer any pretence at Conservatism anywhere in any of the remaining presidential campaigns.

If you are a God fearing person you may want do some serious praying now as that may be your only hope left. Cause brothers and sisters voting isn't going to change that anytime soon.


37 posted on 01/23/2008 12:40:32 PM PST by sinclair (Big game hunter. Specializing in RINO's.)
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To: sinclair

As we have seen around the world, the shackles of socialism do not break easily.


38 posted on 01/23/2008 1:10:05 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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