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Faulty Fridge Causes (British) Aircraft Carrier To Turn Back
Press Association ,U.K ^ | Jan 23 2008

Posted on 01/23/2008 7:14:39 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

Faulty Fridge Causes Aircraft Carrier To Turn Back

Jan 23 2008 Press Association

A FAULTY meat fridge is forcing a Royal Navy aircraft carrier to return to base today just two days after setting off for the Indian Ocean.

HMS Illustrious departed from Portsmouth Naval Base on Monday to head the multi-national Task Group Orion 08 which will be carrying out exercises and diplomatic visits during the next four months in the Indian Ocean and Mediterranean.

Navy spokesman Anton Hanney said a refrigeration unit used to store meat on the warship had been found to be in danger of breaking down.

He explained: "She has a minor problem with her refrigeration unit. It hasn't broken down but because she is off the south coast, the sensible thing is for her to come in and get that fixed before she goes off again.

"It wouldn't be prudent for her to go off with the chance of the unit breaking down while she was in warmer climates and then engineers would have to be flown out to her to fix it.

"It will not delay her programme in any significant way, she will be able to make up 24 hours without a problem."

Mr Hanney said Illustrious was likely to undergo the repairs at Portsmouth this afternoon before heading off again tomorrow.

Orion 08, which incorporates more than 2,500 personnel, 13 ships, a nuclear-powered submarine and fixed wing and rotary wing aircraft is aimed at boosting peace and stability in the area by exercising with a number of navies in the region.

During its deployment, the Task Group will be visiting 20 ports in the Mediterranean, Africa, Middle East, South Asia and the Far East.

A navy spokesman said: "The deployment is part of the Royal Navy's regular operating pattern, repeating a similar deployment to the Indian Ocean in 2006.

"It will exercise deploying a maritime strike force for a prolonged period away from the home base and working with allies."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: aircraftcarrier; hmsillustrious; navair; royalnavy; uk
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The Royal Navy aircraft carrier HMS Illustrious sails from Portsmouth Jan. 21 to lead a 13-ship multi-national Task Group to the Indian Ocean. (UK MoD photo)

1 posted on 01/23/2008 7:14:41 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
She has a minor problem with her refrigeration unit.

There's a joke in there somewhere.

2 posted on 01/23/2008 7:18:53 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

HMS Illustrious departed now returning due to a refer plant?

You have got to be friggen kidding me are their any machinist mates on board? Its got aircraft to bring in spare parts if not on board.

Once again, the crown embarrasses the west.


3 posted on 01/23/2008 7:20:05 AM PST by edcoil
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The Sun Always Sets on the British Empire.


4 posted on 01/23/2008 7:20:10 AM PST by Rudder
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I wonder if Britian is still planning on building its supercarrier...

I wonder why they couldnt fix the issue at sea, which would seem like good training...


5 posted on 01/23/2008 7:20:22 AM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis.")
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To: sukhoi-30mki

It’s a cover story.

They’re picking up James to drop him off at Dr Zodiac’s Arctic base, and the meat fridge is the same size as an Aston Martin.


6 posted on 01/23/2008 7:20:25 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Reminds me of the bumper sticker I saw once along time ago when the British still built many brands of autos for export to the US:

Why do the British drink warm beer? Because they have Lucas refrigerators!


7 posted on 01/23/2008 7:20:33 AM PST by Leo Farnsworth
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To: mtbopfuyn

She’d have been the HMS Odorous, if they hadn’t fixed the ‘fridge.


8 posted on 01/23/2008 7:20:44 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: mtbopfuyn

In Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, a space ship’s departure is delayed centuries waiting for a delivery of lemon scented towelettes.
Howmany of these fridges does an aircraft carrier have?


9 posted on 01/23/2008 7:23:33 AM PST by Holicheese (1-21-09 Hillary starts to destroy America!)
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To: edcoil

I can understand how a faulty fridge could be a serious problem but I agree, the know how to fix it should be on board.


10 posted on 01/23/2008 7:24:05 AM PST by cripplecreek (Duncan Hunter, Conservative excellence in action.)
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To: cripplecreek

Good grief, they can fix a million other things on board the ship, why not the fridge unit too? Didn’t they bring any spare parts?


11 posted on 01/23/2008 7:26:40 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

It is an aircraft carrier, they don’t have HVAC/refrigeration techs aboard?


12 posted on 01/23/2008 7:26:45 AM PST by wrench
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To: cripplecreek
These are just War "Games" after all. We can delay them for a few days and get a do-over, right.

It reminds me that the Canadian army can't even field one battalion to help us overseas. That's just what their military has devolved to.

13 posted on 01/23/2008 7:29:30 AM PST by DJtex
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To: sukhoi-30mki

What’s a few maggots in the meat? The British Navy ain’t what it used to be. ;-)


14 posted on 01/23/2008 7:30:08 AM PST by rhombus
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To: sukhoi-30mki
the Task Group will be visiting 20 ports

They'll be visiting all my lost socks.
15 posted on 01/23/2008 7:30:30 AM PST by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Hmmmm...couldn’t the Brits have simply airlifted a new unit or parts to fix the current one, rather than wasting all the money on fuel to return to port? This doesn’t make sense...


16 posted on 01/23/2008 7:31:27 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (“We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!” --Duncan Hunter)
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To: DJtex

Thank God they didn’t have to retreat during a battle.


17 posted on 01/23/2008 7:32:08 AM PST by cripplecreek (Duncan Hunter, Conservative excellence in action.)
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To: DJtex

Refrigerated meat aboard ship?
Guess they don’t eat powdered eggs (to order) or
drink powdered milk or drink bug juice are these guys sailors or cruise ship passengers?


18 posted on 01/23/2008 7:33:46 AM PST by xrmusn
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To: edcoil

They need to be at home port to avoid Greenpeace protesting the ship if they were to bring onboard that banned substance, freon.


19 posted on 01/23/2008 7:34:24 AM PST by printhead
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To: Leo Farnsworth

Why don’t the British make personal computers?

Because they can’t figure out how to make them leak oil.


20 posted on 01/23/2008 7:34:29 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: cripplecreek

Got to be a cover story. Knowing the brits, I’d bet they forgot to load weapons before leaving.


21 posted on 01/23/2008 7:36:44 AM PST by edcoil
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To: sukhoi-30mki
The ship is literally filled with cooling units for air conditioning and radar/electronic equipment.

They don’t have people who can maintain all that?

Is this Scrapple?

22 posted on 01/23/2008 7:42:38 AM PST by ryan71
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To: xrmusn

“bug juice”

Ah, yes, bug juice. Remember soaking brass fire nozzles in that stuff? Cleans and shines at the same time.


23 posted on 01/23/2008 7:49:22 AM PST by ryan71
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To: Leo Farnsworth
Reminds me of ...

...a Fortune Magazine article from the 1980s on Jaguar's quality problems.

The founder of Jaguar was too British in that he wouldn't buy real electrical parts from West Germany, instead, opting to buy the poor quality British stuff at the time.

Was that Lucas, perchance?

Not that German electrical stuff is all that great. One of my VWs had a number electrical parts failures.

Great fun when the power window switches break when it starts raining, and the window(s) are down....

24 posted on 01/23/2008 7:50:37 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: rhombus
What’s a few maggots in the meat? The British Navy ain’t what it used to be. ;-)

I think they've stopped keel-hauling, too.

Too bad.

25 posted on 01/23/2008 7:52:37 AM PST by Ole Okie
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To: Holicheese
In Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, a space ship’s departure is delayed centuries waiting for a delivery of lemon scented towelettes. Howmany of these fridges does an aircraft carrier have?

I don't know about theirs but ours have two big walk in coolers both forward and aft plus a walk in freezer both forward and aft. Add to that a couple of smaller walk ins but those are the main ones. In a pinch you can make a walk in refrigerator a freezer but it would be a pain to do. Also on our carriers the walk in refrigerators serve a dual purpose. They also serve as the morgue and I'm not making this up. I was in A-Gang AC&R Shop on a carrier. When someone died at sea in the cooler they went till a fly off could happen. Till then one of us was stationed at the door 24 hours a day to keep the temp steady.

I find this story quite amusing though. Heck we would have never left port LOL.

26 posted on 01/23/2008 7:52:58 AM PST by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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27 posted on 01/23/2008 7:58:14 AM PST by magslinger (cranky right-winger)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
"It wouldn't be prudent for her to go off with the chance of the unit breaking down while she was in warmer climates and then engineers would have to be flown out to her to fix it. "

Uhhh...turning around an entire carrier group is less expensive than flying out a couple of engineers with some parts? Geez...it is a carrier....

28 posted on 01/23/2008 7:58:51 AM PST by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: sukhoi-30mki

This reminds me of the old TV commerical where the exec. officer tells the captain of an ocean liner that they’ve run out of Colombian coffee. Hard about!


29 posted on 01/23/2008 8:00:10 AM PST by Charles Martel (The Tree of Liberty thirsts.)
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To: edcoil
A little tecchy-rated-mecchy-sweat equity...
Feed the fish any spoiled food...
Underway Replenishment... (UNREP)...

Done deal.... usually.... for a real navy!

30 posted on 01/23/2008 8:02:44 AM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: nevergore

Someone has to tell me if this target has an A-gang?


31 posted on 01/23/2008 8:05:38 AM PST by edcoil
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To: ryan71
The ship is literally filled with cooling units for air conditioning and radar/electronic equipment.

Loose the A/C and you loose electronics. A carrier has roughly 2000 tons of Chill Water cooling systems. That would be about 6-10 chillers depending on each individual units capacity. The chill water loop can be isolated or operated in a one loop system.

This sounds like they had a compressor about ready to lock up and are turning back to replace it. But it could have been done at sea if that were the case. A walk in cooler compressor on a carrier is about the size of a 4 cylinder engine and should be able to be lowered down a hatch rather than cutting the deck. The problem may have been if the compressor needed replaced {they can be overhauled at sea as well} that is was so big that they will have to cut the decks open to get to it. That in turn effects the ships water tight integrity and might be the reason.

32 posted on 01/23/2008 8:06:59 AM PST by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Cover story. Some game’s afoot.


33 posted on 01/23/2008 8:07:37 AM PST by pt17
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To: sukhoi-30mki
"Navy spokesman Anton Hanney said a refrigeration unit used to store meat on the warship had been found to be in danger of breaking down."

2500 sailors and bad meat is a recipe for a night show joke.

34 posted on 01/23/2008 8:08:43 AM PST by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

For want of a nail, the shoe was lost..
For want of the shoe, the horse was lost..
For want of the horse, the rider was lost..
For want of the rider, the battle was lost..
For want of the battle, the kingdom was lost..

And all for the want of a nail.


35 posted on 01/23/2008 8:10:07 AM PST by labette
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To: edcoil
"It wouldn't be prudent for her to go off with the chance of the unit breaking down while she was in warmer climates and then engineers would have to be flown out to her to fix it."

>>You have got to be friggen kidding me are their any machinist mates on board? Its got aircraft to bring in spare parts if not on board.

Yep, much easier to reroute a carrier and her crew then inconvenience a couple of engineers by flying them out.

36 posted on 01/23/2008 8:11:04 AM PST by Dr._Joseph_Warren
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To: nevergore
Geex --- it is a carrier ...

USS John C Stennis; HMS Illustrious.

All carriers are not created equal.

37 posted on 01/23/2008 8:11:35 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Calvin Locke
Was that Lucas, perchance?
Why do the English drink warm beer?
Lucas Electric
38 posted on 01/23/2008 8:12:03 AM PST by Aut Pax Aut Bellum (Invest in Precious metals: copper ,lead,brass...)
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To: Calvin Locke
I don’t know about German electrical gizmos, but having lived over there a number of years I will say I was singularly unimpressed with the so-called “German efficiency”. Not to mention their the-customer-is-always-last retail m.o.
39 posted on 01/23/2008 8:13:10 AM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: ryan71

Yes, right up there with eating shipboard baked ‘raisin bread’.
Used to use so much Brasso on the bright work your fingers would turn and oh yes, what would the environmentalists say about ‘burning the old polish off your Navy Last’s?’, just another good job for lighter fluid....get so many layers of polish on the softened leather they would virtually crack....
what a great, misspent youth and to think people fought to get out of it...


40 posted on 01/23/2008 8:15:54 AM PST by xrmusn
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To: azhenfud
Still thinking:

How would this affect the Rum, sodomy and the lash?

41 posted on 01/23/2008 8:16:36 AM PST by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

To call this thing an aircraft carrier is like calling donkey a horse.


42 posted on 01/23/2008 8:18:57 AM PST by Trueblackman (Terrorism and Liberalism never sleep and neither do I)
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To: cva66snipe

“Loose the A/C and you loose electronics”

A/C has nothing to do with a meat refer plant. Not even close.

My guess is based on yesterdays story of the government going around confiscating toy “replica” guns they are going to put them on the carrier and go fight their replica war.


43 posted on 01/23/2008 8:19:30 AM PST by edcoil
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To: ArrogantBustard

Great picture contrasting flat tops. Note how much greater effort is shown in the turbulent wake of HMS Illustrious. By comparison, CVN Stennis is coasting.


44 posted on 01/23/2008 8:20:29 AM PST by Broker (Grandpa Petti Bones wants to know.)
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To: edcoil

Yeah, typical Brit driver too. Looks like they bent the front of that ship when they ran into sumpin too!! Take it to Geico to have an estimate done. LOL


45 posted on 01/23/2008 8:21:38 AM PST by biff
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To: biff

I believe it is more Russian in design.


46 posted on 01/23/2008 8:22:41 AM PST by edcoil
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To: edcoil
“Loose the A/C and you loose electronics” A/C has nothing to do with a meat refer plant. Not even close.

The poster was asking about having techs do fix it though. AC&R shop maintains both equipment on a ship. I was just giving him an idea of the A/C cooling capacity. I wouldn't know it unless I had worked on that and the walk ins as well :>}

47 posted on 01/23/2008 8:26:14 AM PST by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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To: agere_contra

“They’re picking up James to drop him off at Dr Zodiac’s Arctic base, and the meat fridge is the same size as an Aston Martin.”

Oooh! An Aston Martin with skis and a minigun.


48 posted on 01/23/2008 8:26:23 AM PST by Rinnwald ( Master of Triple-tap Double-action-fu)
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To: Ole Okie
What’s a few maggots in the meat? The British Navy ain’t what it used to be. ;-) I think they've stopped keel-hauling, too. Too bad.

Next thing you know, they'll be surrendering to Iranians pirates. ;-)

49 posted on 01/23/2008 8:26:52 AM PST by rhombus
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To: agere_contra

You’re right, it probably is a cover for something.


50 posted on 01/23/2008 8:28:44 AM PST by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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