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Russian scientist says Earth could soon face new Ice Age
Russian News & Information Agency ^

Posted on 01/23/2008 10:09:35 AM PST by Bulwinkle

ST. PETERSBURG, January 22 (RIA Novosti) - Temperatures on Earth have stabilized in the past decade, and the planet should brace itself for a new Ice Age rather than global warming, a Russian scientist said in an interview with RIA Novosti Tuesday.

"Russian and foreign research data confirm that global temperatures in 2007 were practically similar to those in 2006, and, in general, identical to 1998-2006 temperatures, which, basically, means that the Earth passed the peak of global warming in 1998-2005," said Khabibullo Abdusamatov, head of a space research lab at the Pulkovo observatory in St. Petersburg.

According to the scientist, the concentration of carbon dioxide in the Earth's atmosphere has risen more than 4% in the past decade, but global warming has practically stopped. It confirms the theory of "solar" impact on changes in the Earth's climate, because the amount of solar energy reaching the planet has drastically decreased during the same period, the scientist said.

Had global temperatures directly responded to concentrations of "greenhouse" gases in the atmosphere, they would have risen by at least 0.1 Celsius in the past ten years, however, it never happened, he said.

"A year ago, many meteorologists predicted that higher levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere would make the year 2007 the hottest in the last decade, but, fortunately, these predictions did not become reality," Abdusamatov said.

He also said that in 2008, global temperatures would drop slightly, rather than rise, due to unprecedentedly low solar radiation in the past 30 years, and would continue decreasing even if industrial emissions of carbon dioxide reach record levels.

By 2041, solar activity will reach its minimum according to a 200-year cycle, and a deep cooling period will hit the Earth approximately in 2055-2060. It will last for about 45-65 years, the scientist added.

"By the mid-21st century the planet will face another Little Ice Age, similar to the Maunder Minimum, because the amount of solar radiation hitting the Earth has been constantly decreasing since the 1990s and will reach its minimum approximately in 2041," he said.

The Maunder Minimum occurred between 1645 and 1715, when only about 50 spots appeared on the Sun, as opposed to the typical 40,000-50,000 spots.

It coincided with the middle and coldest part of the so called Little Ice Age, during which Europe and North America were subjected to bitterly cold winters.

"However, the thermal inertia of the world's oceans and seas will delay a 'deep cooling' of the planet, and the new Ice Age will begin sometime during 2055-2060, probably lasting for several decades," Abdusamatov said.

Therefore, the Earth must brace itself for a growing ice cap, rather than rising waters in global oceans caused by ice melting.

Mankind will face serious economic, social, and demographic consequences of the coming Ice Age because it will directly affect more than 80% of the earth's population, the scientist concluded.

http://en.rian.ru/science/20080122/97519953.html


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To: Bulwinkle

A scientist in Russia predicts an ice age? Shocking, isn’t it.

In any event, whatever the problem of the climate, be it too hot or too cold, international socialism is the only way to solve it.


51 posted on 01/23/2008 10:27:35 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: Bulwinkle
He also said that in 2008, global temperatures would drop slightly, rather than rise, due to unprecedentedly low solar radiation in the past 30 years, and would continue decreasing even if industrial emissions of carbon dioxide reach record levels.
Bring on the negative carbon tax!

That way you can trade off your carbon tax against your negative carbon tax and break even every time.

Of course, there will have to be an increase in general taxes to pay for the two new bureaucracies created to save us from the two different kinds of doom.

Global warming, global cooling. Either way, it's Government Growing.

52 posted on 01/23/2008 10:27:55 AM PST by samtheman
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To: 50sDad
why the hell have the socialist morons so fully embraced the lie

I was enlightened by a person who has done extensive research of the history of this stuff and have learned that the true powers doing this are the Zero Population Growth crowd and they own the socialists rather than the other way around. I have changed my focus somewhat since learning this. UN and World Bank need attention as the main arms of the ZPGers. Some of our other topics such as Sex Ed in grammar school also belong to these people. It might sound kind of Bilderburgerish, but consider it for a while and see.

53 posted on 01/23/2008 10:30:11 AM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: All

The Global warming panic is all about money...and Gore has made a bundle. According to Hillary, his agenda was to con young voters....Just another “block” of sheep.


54 posted on 01/23/2008 10:30:56 AM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Bulwinkle
Welcome to Battlefield 2142


55 posted on 01/23/2008 10:31:01 AM PST by McCloud-Strife (Dump John McCain first, the rest of the "gang of 14" next)
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To: pepsionice

“The bad news...”

We don’t want any bad news.

We want the weather to stay within our preset limits, for our convenience.

The government is promising to fix the weather.

Why should we have to ‘adapt’?


(/sarcasm)


56 posted on 01/23/2008 10:32:02 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Just saying what 'they' won't.)
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To: Bulwinkle
would make the year 2007 the hottest in the last decade, but, fortunately, these predictions did not become reality,

I object.

I've been counting on things warming up for years...We need to demand that goreBore deliver what he promised!

But seriously, our grandkids will get caught in the worst of this - tho' the years from here to there will get increasingly cool - like the last Little Ice Age that drove the Vikings away from Greenland...and devastated Europe.

That said, it shouldn't be as devastating as the last Little Ice Age - we have/will have far better coping powers. Take food, for one example. The biggest reason for widespread starvation/crop failure was that they largely depended on above ground crops.

Indeed, like in France, many steadfastly refused to grow below ground crops like potatoes. King Louis of France tried to convince the starving minions to grow/eat potatoes by doing so himself. But they wouldn't - instead, they rioted - and you know the rest.

Forty years from now, many of us will be long gone, but with right planning NOW, new technologies, etc, our descendants can 'weather it' through...

57 posted on 01/23/2008 10:32:36 AM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Bulwinkle

Like politics, all weather is local........


58 posted on 01/23/2008 10:32:45 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: irv
Hehehehe. It is the darn Diebold thermometers.
59 posted on 01/23/2008 10:32:47 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: DoughtyOne

I remember in the late 70’s, early 80’s that the “scientific community” was saying that increased levels of CO2 reflected solar radiation thereby cooling the planet. The solution...get rid of internal combustion engines, more mass transit, etc...are you surprised? Now we are told that increased CO2 results in higher temps but the “solution” is the same. This alone should make one wonder why opposite climate effects have the same answer. Socialists/Communists don’t want you to be able to travel freely without the heavy hand of government. The freedom to travel and relocate are anathema to the Left because it allows me more liberty.


60 posted on 01/23/2008 10:33:58 AM PST by TxAg1981
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To: maine-iac7

“Forty years from now, many of us will be long gone, but with right planning NOW, new technologies, etc, our descendants can ‘weather it’ through...”

They’ll all move to Hawaii.


61 posted on 01/23/2008 10:41:52 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Just saying what 'they' won't.)
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To: alloysteel
Notice how “globull warming” has morphed into “climate change”.

It sure has! I guess they were tired of getting embarrassed at global warming rallies and photo-ops by cold weather. By adopting "Climate Change" they are now in the position of claiming that ANY weather that is remotely out of the ordinary is the fault of us heartless conservatives and our greedy ways.

62 posted on 01/23/2008 10:42:43 AM PST by Gator101 (Don't tase me, Bro!)
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To: Heartland Mom
I am no scientist, but deciding we are heading for an ice age based upon any 10-year analysis seems as ludicrous as using the same period to arrive at the global warming hysteria.

If you read the article, the guy is actually using a 200+ year analysis of sun spot activity to make his prediction. The 10 years cited were only to discount the effect of CO2 which rose by 4% over that period yet has not produced the warming trend that the AWG hustlers have claimed it would.

63 posted on 01/23/2008 10:42:57 AM PST by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: Beowulf; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Normandy
"Hot Air Cult"

~~Anthropogenic Global Warming ™ ping~~

64 posted on 01/23/2008 10:44:39 AM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: Bulwinkle

"The Earth has hypothermia!"

65 posted on 01/23/2008 10:45:38 AM PST by OB1kNOb (At this point , conservatism in the 2008 election is DOA.)
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To: Bulwinkle
Very interesting ‘side bar’ story on Russia’s First Lady - go to the site and click on photo of her - and then click through the photos, reading the info with each one.

Her accomplishments are HERS - she is impressively accomplished, in her own right...speaks 4 languages, etc...Makes ‘lady’ Hillary look like the no-body she really is...claiming ‘35 years’ experience.

Russia’s First Lady does it right:

“In Lyudmila Putin’s opinion, the first thing the wife of a head of state should think of is “not harming the president’s activities.” She has never ridden on Putin's coattails, but carved our her own path quite admirably. Future First Ladies of the world could learn a lesson.

66 posted on 01/23/2008 10:46:14 AM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: 50sDad

The Mayan calendar ended with the Mayan Empire in the 16th century.

Maybe the year should have been read as 1512. Although that’s a little early.


67 posted on 01/23/2008 10:46:55 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
Funny. The last one went on for 50,000 years.

No, the last one -- The Little Ice Age --- lasted about 50 years and coincided with a marked decrease in sun spot activity the same as we are seeing now.

68 posted on 01/23/2008 10:47:08 AM PST by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: Bulwinkle
Much Russian territory is geographically vulnerable to any downturn in temperature. From a practical standpoint the Russians don’t have the luxury to entertain politically correct theories about climate. Instead they have to anticipate and plan for the consequences colder weather will have on their agriculture and northern oil production.
69 posted on 01/23/2008 10:47:57 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: Ditto

That wasn’t an ice age. It was a short term cooling event.

No glaciers came south.

Anyway, I thought algore invented ice ages?


70 posted on 01/23/2008 10:48:34 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Bulwinkle
Temperatures on Earth have stabilized in the past decade, and the planet should brace itself for a new Ice Age rather than global warming, a Russian scientist said in an interview with RIA Novosti Tuesday.

The only constant in Nature is CHANGE.

There has always been Climate Change and there will alway be Climate Change.

71 posted on 01/23/2008 10:48:52 AM PST by Polybius
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To: Heartland Mom
Don’t these patterns take hundreds, if not thousands, of years before they have any weight?

Here's a plot of Earth's climate for the last 400,000 years:



"From this plot, it is clear that most of the last 420 thousand years (420 kyr) was spent in ice age. The brief periods when the record peaks above the zero line, the interglacials, typically lasted from a few thousand to perhaps twenty thousand years. These data should frighten you. All of civilization developed during the last interglacial, and the data show that such interglacials are very brief. Our time looks about up. Data such as these are what led us to state, in the Preface, that the next ice age is about to hit us, any millennium now. It does not take a detailed theory to make this prediction. We don’t necessarily know why the next ice age is imminent (at least on a geological time scale), but the pattern is unmistakable."

Source:

http://muller.lbl.gov/pages/IceAgeBook/history_of_climate.html


72 posted on 01/23/2008 10:49:38 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: Bulwinkle

This is distressing news.

Just where will I go to purchase Carbon Debits?


73 posted on 01/23/2008 10:50:48 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: TxAg1981
Now we are told that increased CO2 results in higher temps but the “solution” is the same.

Reminds me of the Far Side cartoon of the Horse Hospital where the treatment for every malady was "Shoot".

74 posted on 01/23/2008 10:52:44 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: UCANSEE2
They’ll all move to Hawaii

That could prove disastrous - even discounting all the seismic activity and tsunami risks- If there's a pole shift in the near future, as some scientists think, Hawaii could be the new 'north'


75 posted on 01/23/2008 10:53:07 AM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
That wasn’t an ice age. It was a short term cooling event. No glaciers came south.

The Little Ice Age brought bitterly cold winters to many parts of the world, but is most thoroughly documented in Europe and North America. In the mid-17th century, glaciers in the Swiss Alps advanced, gradually engulfing farms and crushing entire villages. The River Thames and the canals and rivers of the Netherlands often froze over during the winter, and people skated and even held frost fairs on the ice. The first Thames frost fair was in 1607; the last in 1814, although changes to the bridges and the addition of an embankment affected the river flow and depth, hence the possibility of freezes. The freeze of the Golden Horn and the southern section of the Bosphorus took place in 1622. The winter of 1794/95 was particularly harsh when the French invasion army under Pichegru could march on the frozen rivers of the Netherlands, whilst the Dutch fleet was fixed in the ice in Den Helder harbour. In the winter of 1780, New York Harbor froze, allowing people to walk from Manhattan to Staten Island. Sea ice surrounding Iceland extended for miles in every direction, closing that island's harbors to shipping.

76 posted on 01/23/2008 10:56:07 AM PST by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: Bulwinkle

2055 start date? I still have time.

We used to raise sheep and angora goats on our farm and still have many bags of wool and mohair in the barn.

I need to learn to knit and start making really thick sweaters!


77 posted on 01/23/2008 10:56:14 AM PST by live+let_live
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To: RightWhale
The long term goal of these people is to reduce the population of the Earth drastically. I heard a number of years ago that they want the US population to be about 25 million people. As as example, the Florida Keys would be uninhabited except for Key Largo, Marathon, and Key West. The alligators, mosquitoes, and Key deer get the remainder. And so it goes for the remainder of the World.
78 posted on 01/23/2008 10:56:36 AM PST by Citizen Tom Paine (Swift as the wind; Calmly majestic as a forest; Steady as the mountains.)
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To: canuck_conservative
Our time looks about up. Data such as these are what led us to state, in the Preface, that the next ice age is about to hit us, any millennium now.

I may be slow but I think I can outrun a glacier.

79 posted on 01/23/2008 10:59:37 AM PST by OSHA (Liberals will lick the boot on their necks if they think the other boot is on yours and mine.)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

Now isn’t this ‘Inconvenient’. It is easy to see why the envirowacko, socialist, man hating crowd are so hysterical. They need to strangle the US economy and put their plans into place before the masses realize they have been fooled. Fortunately most people in the US are suffering through a bitter January and even the loud howls from Saint Al and his Branch Algorians won’t be enough if the weather keeps up like this., My favorite ‘hotspot’ Iqaluit, Canada, hard on the Hudson Straight in Canada and home of those starving polar bears has an average high temp in Jan of about -6 to -8 F. So far through 22 days, there have been 3 days of above average or average temps, and 19 days where the high temp was at least 10f below normal, most days highs were -20f or below. Even the polar bears will be hoping for global warming soon.


80 posted on 01/23/2008 11:01:25 AM PST by milwguy (........)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

That is correct. They have been working on this for a long time.


81 posted on 01/23/2008 11:02:39 AM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: Bulwinkle

See two more pictures on this FR thread almost one year ago.

26 posted on 02/08/2007 12:57:10 PM CST by pabianice

1975 text books on global cooling.

82 posted on 01/23/2008 11:06:08 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 ("It may take another Jimmy Carter to get another Ronald Reagan". Rush Limbaugh Jan. 14, 2008)
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To: Bulwinkle

Translations:

I have to put on a coat = The ice age is coming!
I would like some lemonade = We’re dooooooomed!


83 posted on 01/23/2008 11:07:31 AM PST by pgyanke ("Huntered"--The act of being ignored by media and party to prevent name recognition)
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To: pabianice

Forgot to ping you to this.


84 posted on 01/23/2008 11:07:33 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 ("It may take another Jimmy Carter to get another Ronald Reagan". Rush Limbaugh Jan. 14, 2008)
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To: Bulwinkle
A Complete List Of Things Caused By Global Warming

Acne, agricultural land increase, Africa devastated, African aid threatened, Africa hit hardest, air pressure changes, Alaska reshaped, allergies increase, Alps melting, Amazon a desert, American dream end, amphibians breeding earlier (or not), ancient forests dramatically changed, animals head for the hills, Antarctic grass flourishes, Antarctic ice grows, Antarctic ice shrinks, anxiety, algal blooms, archaeological sites threatened, Arctic bogs melt, Arctic in bloom, Arctic ice free, Arctic lakes disappear, asthma, Atlantic less salty, Atlantic more salty, atmospheric defiance, atmospheric circulation modified, attack of the killer jellyfish, avalanches reduced, avalanches increased, Baghdad snow, bananas destroyed, bananas grow, beetle infestation, bet for $10,000, better beer, big melt faster, billion dollar research projects, billions face risk, billions of deaths, bird distributions change, bird visitors drop, birds return early, birds driven north, blackbirds stop singing, blizzards, blue mussels return, bluetongue, boredom, bridge collapse (Minneapolis), Britain Siberian, British gardens change, brothels struggle, bubonic plague, budget increases, Buddhist temple threatened, building collapse, building season extension, bushfires, business opportunities, business risks, butterflies move north, camel deaths, cancer deaths in England, cardiac arrest, caterpillar biomass shift, cave paintings threatened, challenges and opportunities, childhood insomnia, Cholera, circumcision in decline, cirrus disappearance, civil unrest, cloud increase, cloud stripping, cockroach migration, cod go south, cold climate creatures survive, cold spells (Australia), computer models, conferences, coral bleaching, coral reefs dying, coral reefs grow, coral reefs shrink , cold spells, cost of trillions, cougar attacks, cremation to end, crime increase, crocodile sex, crumbling roads, buildings and sewage systems, cyclones (Australia), damages equivalent to $200 billion, Darfur, Dartford Warbler plague, death rate increase (US), Dengue hemorrhagic fever, dermatitis, desert advance, desert life threatened, desert retreat, destruction of the environment, diarrhoea, disappearance of coastal cities, diseases move north, Dolomites collapse, drought, drowning people, ducks and geese decline, dust bowl in the corn belt, early marriages, early spring, earlier pollen season, Earth biodiversity crisis, Earth dying, Earth even hotter, Earth light dimming, Earth lopsided, Earth melting, Earth morbid fever, Earth on fast track, Earth past point of no return, Earth slowing down, Earth spinning out of control, Earth spins faster, Earth to explode, earth upside down, Earth wobbling, earthquakes, El Niño intensification, end of the world as we know it, erosion, emerging infections, encephalitis, equality threatened, Europe simultaneously baking and freezing, evolution accelerating, expansion of university climate groups, extinctions (human, civilisation, logic, Inuit, smallest butterfly, cod, ladybirds, bats, pandas, pikas, polar bears, pigmy possums, gorillas, koalas, walrus, whales, frogs, toads, turtles, orang-utan, elephants, tigers, plants, salmon, trout, wild flowers, woodlice, penguins, a million species, half of all animal and plant species, mountain species, not polar bears, barrier reef, leaches), experts muzzled, extreme changes to California, fading fall foliage, famine, farmers go under, fashion disaster, fever,figurehead sacked, fir cone bonanza, fish catches drop, fish downsize, fish catches rise, fish stocks at risk, fish stocks decline, five million illnesses, flesh eating disease, flood patterns change, floods, floods of beaches and cities, Florida economic decline, flowers in peril, food poisoning, food prices rise, food prices soar, food security threat (SA), footpath erosion, forest decline, forest expansion, frostbite, frosts, fungi fruitful, fungi invasion, games change, Garden of Eden wilts, genetic diversity decline, gene pools slashed, giant squid migrate, gingerbread houses collapse, glacial earthquakes, glacial retreat, glacial growth, glacier wrapped, global cooling, global dimming, glowing clouds, god melts, golf Masters wrecked, Gore omnipresence, grandstanding, grasslands wetter, Great Barrier Reef 95% dead, Great Lakes drop, greening of the North, Grey whales lose weight, Gulf Stream failure, habitat loss, Hantavirus pulmonary syndrome, harvest increase, harvest shrinkage, hay fever epidemic, hazardous waste sites breached, health of children harmed, heart disease, heart attacks and strokes (Australia), heat waves, hibernation ends too soon, hibernation ends too late, homeless 50 million, hornets, high court debates, human development faces unprecedented reversal, human fertility reduced, human health improvement, human health risk, human race oblivion, hurricanes, hurricane reduction, hydropower problems, hyperthermia deaths, ice sheet growth, ice sheet shrinkage, illness and death, inclement weather, infrastructure failure (Canada), Inuit displacement, Inuit poisoned, Inuit suing, industry threatened, infectious diseases, inflation in China, insurance premium rises, invasion of cats, invasion of herons, invasion of midges, island disappears, islands sinking, itchier poison ivy, jellyfish explosion, Kew Gardens taxed, kitten boom, krill decline, lake and stream productivity decline, lake shrinking and growing, landslides, landslides of ice at 140 mph, lawsuits increase, lawsuit successful, lawyers' income increased (surprise surprise!), lightning related insurance claims, little response in the atmosphere, lush growth in rain forests, Lyme disease, Malaria, malnutrition, mammoth dung melt, Maple syrup shortage, marine diseases, marine food chain decimated, marine dead zone, Meaching (end of the world), megacryometeors, Melanoma, methane emissions from plants, methane burps, melting permafrost, Middle Kingdom convulses, migration, migration difficult (birds), microbes to decompose soil carbon more rapidly, monkeys on the move, Mont Blanc grows, monuments imperiled, more bad air days, more research needed, mortality increased, mountain (Everest) shrinking, mountains break up, mountains taller, mortality lower, mudslides, National security implications, natural disasters quadruple, new islands, next ice age, Nile delta damaged, noctilucent clouds, no effect in India, Northwest Passage opened, nuclear plants bloom, oaks dying, oaks move north, oblivion, ocean acidification, ocean waves speed up, opera house to be destroyed, outdoor hockey threatened, oyster diseases, ozone loss, ozone repair slowed, ozone rise, Pacific dead zone, personal carbon rationing, pest outbreaks, pests increase, phenology shifts, plankton blooms, plankton destabilised, plankton loss, plant viruses, plants march north, polar bears aggressive, polar bears cannibalistic, polar bears drowning, polar bears starve, polar tours scrapped, porpoise astray, profits collapse, psychosocial disturbances, puffin decline, railroad tracks deformed, rainfall increase, rainfall reduction, rape wave, refugees, reindeer larger, release of ancient frozen viruses, resorts disappear, rice threatened, rice yields crash, riches, rift on Capitol Hill, rioting and nuclear war, rivers dry up, river flow impacted, rivers raised, roads wear out, rockfalls, rocky peaks crack apart, roof of the world a desert, rooftop bars, Ross river disease, ruins ruined, salinity reduction, salinity increase, Salmonella, salmon stronger, satellites accelerate, school closures, sea level rise, sea level rise faster, seals mating more, sewer bills rise, severe thunderstorms, sex change, sharks booming, sharks moving north, sheep shrink, shop closures, shrimp sex problems, shrinking ponds, shrinking shrine, ski resorts threatened, slow death, smaller brains, smog, snowfall increase, snowfall heavy, snowfall reduction, soaring food prices, societal collapse, songbirds change eating habits, sour grapes, space problem, spiders invade Scotland, squid population explosion, squirrels reproduce earlier, spectacular orchids, storms wetter, stormwater drains stressed, street crime to increase, suicide, Tabasco tragedy, taxes, tectonic plate movement, teenage drinking, terrorism, threat to peace, ticks move northward (Sweden), tides rise, tourism increase, trade barriers, trade winds weakened, tree beetle attacks, tree foliage increase (UK), tree growth slowed, trees could return to Antarctic, trees in trouble, trees less colourful, trees more colourful, trees lush, tropics expansion, tropopause raised, tsunamis, turtles crash, turtles lay earlier, UK coastal impact, UK Katrina, Vampire moths, Venice flooded, volcanic eruptions, walrus displaced, walrus pups orphaned, walrus stampede, war, wars over water, wars sparked, wars threaten billions, water bills double, water supply unreliability, water scarcity (20% of increase), water stress, weather out of its mind, weather patterns awry, weeds, Western aid cancelled out, West Nile fever, whales move north, wheat yields crushed in Australia, white Christmas dream ends, wildfires, wind shift, wind reduced, wine - harm to Australian industry, wine industry damage (California), wine industry disaster (US), wine - more English, wine -German boon, wine - no more French , winters in Britain colder, wolves eat more moose, wolves eat less, workers laid off, World bankruptcy, World in crisis, World in flames, Yellow fever.

85 posted on 01/23/2008 11:08:27 AM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: Bulwinkle

Ice age + global warming = normal climate

Damn


86 posted on 01/23/2008 11:10:49 AM PST by lmailbvmbipfwedu
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To: Bulwinkle

I’m going home and make some hot chocolate, and lemonade and sit down and wait to see which it is. That way I’ve got it covered no matter what.


87 posted on 01/23/2008 11:22:47 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: Iron Munro

Rush says we’re going to lose all our dirt, the entire planet, in 100 years. Isn’t this also GW, or is it biofuels?


88 posted on 01/23/2008 11:25:13 AM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: Bulwinkle
It really doesn't matter what the tragedy is, there will be someone trying to tax it, capitalize on it, and blame it on whomever they deem to be the evil du jour.

Short carbon credits, go long on insulation and heating fuels, and step back into a solid niche while the herd stampedes the other way.

89 posted on 01/23/2008 11:27:29 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: ottbmare
Mr. Gore specifically promised me global warming,

Politicians lie...

90 posted on 01/23/2008 11:28:48 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Heartland Mom

Sun spots have been studied for quite some time. And to disregard the affect of the Sun’s cycles has on our weather, and place the blame on a little extra CO2 in the atmo is rather, well, stupid. IMHO.


91 posted on 01/23/2008 11:30:43 AM PST by AFreeBird (No Romney, No Rudy, No McLame, No Huck, No Paul! Toss the GOP into the ashcan of History.)
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To: Bulwinkle

I’ll need a new coat!


92 posted on 01/23/2008 11:31:29 AM PST by BigCinBigD (")
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To: Bulwinkle
The antidote for the coming glacial.


93 posted on 01/23/2008 11:32:46 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Bulwinkle

Excuse me, but if it gets colder isn’t that “climate change?”


94 posted on 01/23/2008 11:35:23 AM PST by HenpeckedCon
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To: ottbmare

LOL...yeah, me too!!! I’v been living in sub zero wind chill for the last week and I want my global warming too!


95 posted on 01/23/2008 11:36:35 AM PST by annelizly
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To: pissant
Don’t tell the RINOs running for president, they all believe in global warming as much as Algore

exactly. I remember the fools on our side that raised their hands when that leftist moderator asked about AGW. It seems that all the Rep candidates left, support the fraud that is AGW. Very sad and very dangerous. The AGW will destroy what's left of our Capitalistic system if they have their way. We will have to pay the price for elites making irrational decisions. Mitt the "technocrat" will surely say he "has a solution." I wish one of the idiots left running would say AGW is all bull.

96 posted on 01/23/2008 11:41:52 AM PST by sand88
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To: Bulwinkle
Sunspot observations go back a long way--this is much more believable than CO2 causing runaway warming.

This is science based on observation rather than computer modeling, it could get seriously cold in the coming decades.

97 posted on 01/23/2008 11:42:48 AM PST by Cruising Speed
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To: Iron Munro
Sorry, but you missed divorce. I kid you not, some “experts” are now saying that divorce adds to gore bull warming, i.e., using more water, more electricity, more groceries, etc.

I have one question for the group who did that study.

What were the people who got the divorce doing BEFORE they got married? Did they not use any of those before when living separately?

98 posted on 01/23/2008 11:48:18 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 ("It may take another Jimmy Carter to get another Ronald Reagan". Rush Limbaugh Jan. 14, 2008)
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To: Bulwinkle

99 posted on 01/23/2008 11:49:11 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Dixie Yooper

crap...I’d rather be warm than cold.....crap.....


100 posted on 01/23/2008 11:50:34 AM PST by duckbutt ( If you let a smile be your umbrella, then most likely your butt will get soaking wet.)
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