Skip to comments.Ashamed to have ever believed in Duncan Hunter
Posted on 01/23/2008 6:19:25 PM PST by ExcellenceInAmericacom
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If he knows something we don't and if his endorsement is to mean anything then he needs to spill the beans about what we don't know. This is meaningless until he can provide some details to his decision process.
I hope Florida goes Romney... I REALLY hope so. I hope he wins in all. Florida would be huge at this stage to make a clear front runner going into super 2s.
Thank you for pointing out that Tancredo endorsed Romney. I don’t remember FReepers having a cow when that happened. But Hunter endorsing Huckabee - now that’s worth having a cow over! Sheeesh already.
Freerepublic.com majority would’ve supported Goldwater over that uppity Reagan.
Virtually everyone associated with RR has been branded a "RINO" here. We use that term with about as much precision as liberals use the term "racist."
Goldwater and Reagan never ran against each other.
” Also, I find it as scary how quickly this group endorses Romney. Absolutely unbelievable and just plain damnable foolishness.”
I will never understand how conservatives on FR could support a liberal slimeball like Flip. It turns my stomach to think that he may very well be the republican nominee. The amount of ignorance I’ve seen displayed here from the fliparoos is mind boggling. WIll Rogers summed it up well when he said, “When ignorance gets started it knows no bounds”. The fliparoos have certainly proven that to be true.
Reagan was Goldwater's keynote speaker at the '64 convention.
Yeah, like Reagan was when he ran:
Reagan, With Eye to '80 Nomination, Woos GOP Moderates on Capital Hill
The Washington Post|Jan 23, 1979|By Bill Peterson
Ronald Reagan, sounding like a prospective bridegroom, about ready to pop the big question, yesterday launched an intense three-day courtship of the Republican congressional establishment, taking special pains to seek the favor of party moderates.
He's probably rolling over in his grave after reading threads like this one ...
If I wanted to be dishonest I wouldn't have added a tagline endorsement - yesterday - and would pretend complete objectivity. I used to have a tagline that read "A Presidential endorsement here forfeits any claim of objectivity" because I think that is a fair presumption. It doesn't mean I, or others, can't be objective just that it is fair to question our motivation. Fine.
That being admitted, Hunter stated before his endorsement of Huckabee that he wouldn't support Romney because of a company's action in regards to military sales to China of which Romney had no role. The company in question was already resurrected when this decision was made absent Romney. That was when I seriously questioned Hunter's "integrity" and this endorsement only adds to my suspicion of his anti-Romney attitude.
“I got to know Governor Huckabee well on the campaign trail,” said Hunter. “Of the remaining candidates I feel that he is strongly committed to strengthening national defense....and meeting the challenge of China’s emergence as a military superpower that is taking large portions of America’s industrial base.”
Folks, I am openly a Mike Huckabee supporter. Have been since last December when I finally decided on him. Also, if you read my profile you will know that I’m also strongly and firstly a moral conservative.
However, you should also know that professionally I literally eat, live, and breath national defense. My current employment and side employment deal with national defense. I’m not in military intelligence, so my analyses are not those of a MI analyst, but based upon my amateur assessment of the way things are unfolding in this world right now.....China is the BIGGEST threat to the U.S. Much greater even than the Islamists that we will eventually stomp out. China is beating us economically and using the money they gain to build a military that we will probably have to face within 2 decades, if they don’t destroy us economically first. I’m an old “cold-warrior” and China scares me more than the USSR ever did.
Hunter (and apparently Huckabee) understand this. You need to listen. There are many loose cannons in the Mideast and SW Asia that are serious problems (Iran), but the biggest long term threat to future generations is Red China.
Ah yes, Duncan Hunter, the “real” conservative...the one now backing the GOP’s very own version of Jimmah Carter. And to think we endured months of grief from Hunter supporters that accused other Freepers of betraying conservatism because they wouldn’t fall in behind “Hunter’s Rangers”.
“The problem is not with him. It is with those who do not know him.
What a man. God bless him!”
Excuse me while I puke. What a sorry ass excuse.
Just what did the talking points of that courtship entail? It could have been Goldwater in ‘79 and he would have won.
I have taken a deep breath, I have renewed my search for the lesser of evils.
Everyone is neck and neck, in that department.
I am trying to find a candidate who has a histoy of supporting the RKBA, and it is pretty grim.
“The RNC decided two years ago who they were going to have for their nominee.”
Yeah. Sure, like The Great Carnac.
Problem with your theory (and the system) is that every primary until now has been an open primary when socialists can walk into the polls and vote for a Republican nominee. Why in the hell would you exact "payback" when you KNOW this? Why would you endorse the WORST Republican just for some semblance of vengance? I was a supporter of Duncan Hunter, and I an extremely disappointed in him. I then supported Fred, but he entered late and really failed to campaign. We now have only one candidate left... Mitt Romney. He was not my first choice, but he is far better than any of the Dhimmicrats. To sit this one out is to vote for socialism, higher taxes, another Dhimmicratic appointment to the SCOTUS, and a weak national defense!
Your words are few and powerful.. :^)
“The way I figure it, Dunc figured he had to endorse *somebody*. The four remaining being equally horrible, he put the names in a hat and Huckabees what came up.”
That may not be too far from the truth. All these people castigating Hunter should ask themselves, just who did they expect him to endorse? Is there a candidate still in the race that I haven’t heard of yet?
From Reagan’s memoir, he certainly did attempt an initial run against Goldwater, but ceded and supported him and faithfully bided his time.
My point is that if Reagan himself were to run today, I suspect that the blogosphere, indeed even FR would beat the hell out of him for this single-issue or that single-issue, and he’d never be able to put together a “Reagan Coalition.”
Well, I guess that settles it General.
We all gettin' behind Huckabee now?
Pump don’t work cuz the vandals took the handle
Looks like you’re the fool
“The way I figure it, Dunc figured he had to endorse *somebody*. The four remaining being equally horrible, he put the names in a hat and Huckabees what came up.
That may not be too far from the truth. All these people castigating Hunter should ask themselves, just who did they expect him to endorse? Is there a candidate still in the race that I havent heard of yet?”
You’re more than likely correct. I just wish we had known he respected Huckabee before this. I think that would have been helpful information for several reasons. A lot of freepers have met Huckabee, I’d like to hear what they say. “liking’ someone is just not how I usually pick a candidate. I prefer relying on a record.
But they’re all about the same there, except for McCain.
No way, no how.
Yeah, sorry about that. I thought you were talking about the pres. elections.
That coalition started with the first run in 75 and had the moderate democrats looking. After the Dems took the hit for taking back the wealth of America, they didn’t have a chance.
“That was when I seriously questioned Hunter’s “integrity” and this endorsement only adds to my suspicion of his anti-Romney attitude.”
Well pardon this biased & bigoted Southern Baptist, but having an anti-Romney attitude is just plain common sense to me - on many levels.
I don't know the details, but there was probably less talk about 'purity' than one tends to read on the threads around here.
From a 'development of social movements' point of view, I understand totally what's going on. 2nd generation followers often want to 'purge' the movements from undersirable elements they believe have prevented the 'full establishment' of the original intent.
History is repleat with examples - Martin Luther never wanted to start a 'new church,' he only wanted to reform the exsisting church.
But after his death, the reformers saw no way to go forward without breaking away from the 'Mother Church.'
In a similar way, I understand MANY of the concerns conservatives have in 'compromises' other conservatives have had to make. They see it as the proverbial 'Camel under the tent' in many cases, and fear the LIBs will use minor changes in policy/laws to push forward with they're agenda.
I tend to be a little less fearful, and willing to compromise - guess that makes me a liberal ...
Are you kidding??? There was no bigger Duncan Hunter supporter than I was. He could not have endorsed a candidate farther from his core beliefs than he did. Can you honestly say that Huckabee and Hunter were politically compatible??? This is FREAKIN' NUTS!!!
I’m not ashamed I believed in him, but this endorsement is really illogical.
One thing I finally learned in politics is to never become too attached to any politician because he’ll eventually disappoint you. Just accept the fact, if you support ANY politician long enough he WILL disappoint you, perhaps greatly, sooner or later.
Remove that freedom and you lose that power.
Exactly. I didnt’t even get behind Fred until two months ago, aghast as I was at the sorry bunch presented us in our most perilous time in our nation’s history!
They call the hold-outs wishy-washy? Just the opposite. We knew all there was for us was this process of elimination.
Mitt has my vote, but I ain’t wearin’ his bumper sticker.
Well, rather than tell us how probably it was an informed decision on Hunter’s part, why don’t you educate us and post Hunter’s reasons for this decision?
Well, I’m not a Huckabee fan, and, no, I can’t really understand why Hunter would pick him. But come on, some people here are totally overreacting. I’d still vote for Hunter again in a heartbeat. He is an excellent Congressman and I am definitely still proud to have supported him. And I will probably do it again, the next time he runs.
As for who I’m going to vote for now, I’m not sure. I’ve decided that I’m not just going to throw my vote away by on a candidate who’s dropped out, but I don’t particularly like any of the remaining contenders, either. This won’t be easy.
Actually, I am an optimist. My reasoning has everything to do with the fact that whoever the nominee is, large numbers of normally Republican voters will not turn out to support the candidate. If Hillary is the nominee, we have a chance only because of hatred for her and Democrats having little problem identifying themselves with the Republican nominee.
No, the 1964 keynoter was the Rockefeller choice, then Governor and later Senator Mark O. Hatfield of liberal OR.
No, he considered an initial run against Nixon in 1968, not Goldwater in 1964. Goldwater in 1976 acquired Nancy Reagan’s eternal wrath when he endorsed G. Ford.
I will support Mitt FRomney now. If I have to listen to that cackle from billary for 4 years I won't make it.
Those aren’t my words. They were quoted and requoted.
Good article. And it gibes with a Duncan Hunter video I saw on trade. Hunter presented that other countries subsidize exports from their nations, while penalizing US imports, and that China devalues its currency to encourage exports. Economic theory concludes that they are hurting themselves by denying themselves better value US goods, in the first case, and reducing individual purchasing power (in dollars and other currencies), in the second case. Theory also says they are hurting us. Economic theory is logical and true. A dumb action hurts everyone. So how to respond? First, state that this is a problem, as Duncan Hunter has done. Then one might threaten a response. Negotiations are tough. Reagan on negotiating with the Soviets said that after negotiating with the Warner brothers, the Russians weren’t so bad.
Is it the water of Hope,AR. ?