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Hunter endorses Huck (Boston Herald reader comment)
Boston Herald Reader Comments ^ | January 23, 2008 | Allen Fuller

Posted on 01/24/2008 1:49:05 AM PST by Kurt Evans

Duncan Hunter is a man of integrity, and wouldn’t endorse Huckabee if he thought it would lead to McCain winning the nomination.

Sometimes the most obvious explanation is the best one. Duncan Hunter endorsed Huckabee because Huckabee is the most conservative candidate left. Including on immigration. And he endorsed Huckabee because he thinks Huckabee still has a chance to win this thing.

They spent a lot of time together, and Hunter knows Huckabee’s character. He also knows Huckabee has, like many Republicans, become much more aware of the scope of the illegal immigration problem and the required solutions. Huckabee is now the only candidate to have signed Numbers USA’s No-Amnesty pledge, say what you will about his past record.

If Duncan Hunter trusts Huckabee’s character enough to endorse him, I’d say he at least deserves the benefit of the doubt from his critics.

Huckabee’s reputation was slandered by the Club for Growth getting out early with distortions about his tax record. In the bigger picture, Huckabee had already slashed hundreds of millions from the budget but was still forced to raise taxes to comply with Arkansas’ balanced-budget law. A lot of states at that time were struggling with budget problems. Huckabee later repealed some of those taxes when the budget situation improved.

But to many conservatives, it almost seems that organizations such as the Club for Growth are like God himself speaking. Does the Club for Growth not make mistakes? Do they not have their own agendas? People, think for yourselves! Find out a little bit more than what you’ve been told.

If Huckabee can break through the “conventional wisdom” being parroted about him by the pundits, he will become a serious contender. With his communication skills and his ability to speak to middle America, he will also have a great shot at winning the White House.


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1 posted on 01/24/2008 1:49:07 AM PST by Kurt Evans
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I’m thinking Congressman Hunter has dramatically reduced his chances of becoming Secretary of Defense if any candidate other than Governor Huckabee wins the election.


2 posted on 01/24/2008 1:51:40 AM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: Kurt Evans
Duncan Hunter is a man of integrity,

Until yesterday.

3 posted on 01/24/2008 1:52:04 AM PST by bmwcyle (McCain Sucks!)
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Of course, he may also have dramatically increased his chances of becoming Vice President if Governor Huckabee wins the election.


4 posted on 01/24/2008 1:53:41 AM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: Kurt Evans
“Duncan Hunter endorsed Huckabee because Huckabee is the most conservative candidate left.”

That’s exactly what I posted days ago and you can imagine the responses.

But it’s true. If you line up what is left you have...
Romney and Giuliani on the left.
McCain in the middle.
Huckabee on the right.

That’s exactly what I said and why I went from Fred to Huckabee.

I can’t understand what the problem is. It’s just a simple matter of choosing from who is still in the game. And from a Conservative point of view that *has* to be Huckabee.

I think some people just like drama.

5 posted on 01/24/2008 1:55:08 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: Kurt Evans
Duncan Hunter, is free to choose who ever he likes....just as I am.

I cannot in any way shape or form vote for Huckabee....It'll be at least mid summer before I can make up my mind on even Romney.

At this point the only thing the repubs have going for them in getting my vote is my knowledge that B. Hussein or Hillary would be far worse.

6 posted on 01/24/2008 1:58:27 AM PST by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: Kurt Evans

“Of course, he may also have dramatically increased his chances of becoming Vice President if Governor Huckabee wins the election.

He can only win if he freezes himself for 500 years and wakes up to a world like in Ideocracy where smart people have bred themselves out of existence.


7 posted on 01/24/2008 2:02:44 AM PST by Bushwacker777
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To: Berlin_Freeper

“I think some people just like drama.”

And some are hostile to evangelical Christianity.

Even Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh are applying a ridiculous double standard when they suggest Giuliani is somehow more conservative than Governor Huckabee. They’re straining out gnats and swallowing a camel.


8 posted on 01/24/2008 2:03:31 AM PST by Kurt Evans (This message not approved by any candidate or candidate's committee.)
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To: Kurt Evans

Huckabee is a religious socialist and believes that government should control people’s lives, “for their own good”, of course. The only difference between him and Marx is that Huckabee wants a theocracy as the form of government that controls people.

Hunter either didn’t do his homework on Huckabee, which doesn’t speak well of Hunter, or he knew it and endorsed Huckabee anyway, which speaks significantly worse of Hunter.


9 posted on 01/24/2008 2:04:09 AM PST by FocusNexus
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To: Berlin_Freeper

“That’s exactly what I said and why I went from Fred to Huckabee.

Huckabee — give dem illeeegle ale-ins free too-it-shun to make dem like us there white folk.


10 posted on 01/24/2008 2:05:50 AM PST by Bushwacker777
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To: FocusNexus
Huckabee is a religious socialist and believes that government should control people’s lives, “for their own good”, of course. The only difference between him and Marx is that Huckabee wants a theocracy as the form of government that controls people.

Hunter either didn’t do his homework on Huckabee, which doesn’t speak well of Hunter, or he knew it and endorsed Huckabee anyway, which speaks significantly worse of Hunter.

I think it's possible that Hunter is a mean-spirited little man who wants to poke a stick-in-the-eye of all the people who didn't vote for him by sticking us with an unwinnable Elmer Gantry socialist snake-oil salesman to "get even" with us for not voting for the Great Duncan Hunter.

I was always skeptical of the Hunter-worshippers on this site but I always respected Hunter for his past record.

I no longer respect Hunter and I now understand why he never got more than 1% of the vote.

Duncan, you are a one-percenter in your soul. Thanks for nothing, little man.

11 posted on 01/24/2008 2:12:01 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Kurt Evans

Huckster, the pro-life Socialist.


12 posted on 01/24/2008 2:14:36 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: Kurt Evans
Duncan Hunter endorsed Huckabee because Huckabee is the most conservative candidate left. Including on immigration.

Excuse me..........

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

13 posted on 01/24/2008 2:17:21 AM PST by Cold Heat (Mitt....2008)
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To: samtheman
I think that the DC crowd has simply snowed Hunter into this line of thinking. It’s the only logical explanation, but it does say that Hunter is not very independent in his thought processes. It;s this same sort of echo chamber stuff that has caused the DC pundits to declare McCain as the front runner and likely winner of the nomination.

Like Bob Novac.

14 posted on 01/24/2008 2:21:24 AM PST by Cold Heat (Mitt....2008)
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To: Cold Heat

I think you’re probably right.


15 posted on 01/24/2008 2:36:45 AM PST by samtheman
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To: pissant
Oh well... as Abraham Lincoln once said:

"You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time..."

16 posted on 01/24/2008 2:43:21 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: Kurt Evans
I think it is loony toons for someone to trash Huckabee as if they got something better with McCain, Romney or Giuliani from a Conservative point of view.
17 posted on 01/24/2008 2:47:38 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: FocusNexus
“Huckabee is a religious socialist and believes that government should control people’s lives, “for their own good”, of course.”

There is already control over peoples lives, it’s called: The Law.

You mean Huckabee wants to strengthen the laws to put a drag on the rampant growth of freaks in society? Yea, as a Conservative I am all for that!

18 posted on 01/24/2008 2:56:38 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Agreed!


19 posted on 01/24/2008 2:59:41 AM PST by Blue Collar Republican (3 fingers of Jim Beam in a dirty glass)
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To: Bushwacker777
Duncan Hunter - Of the remaining candidates I feel that he is strongly committed to strengthening national defense, constructing the border fence and meeting the challenge of China’s emergence as a military superpower.”

Bushwacker777 - Duh.

20 posted on 01/24/2008 3:01:07 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: Kurt Evans

WTF?


21 posted on 01/24/2008 3:05:01 AM PST by ought-six
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To: Kakaze

“At this point the only thing the repubs have going for them in getting my vote is my knowledge that B. Hussein or Hillary would be far worse.”

Same here. That being said, in good conscience I cannot vote for the Huckster: There are just too many negatives about the guy, and he makes me very uncomfortable. He wants us to believe he went from a pro-illegal alien amnesty and freebie stance to an anti- overnight? No way. He said the U.S. Constitution should be amended to reflect the law of God? Nope. The constitution should and must remain secular.


22 posted on 01/24/2008 3:09:46 AM PST by ought-six
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To: Bushwacker777
He can only win if he freezes himself for 500 years and wakes up to a world like in Ideocracy where smart people have bred themselves out of existence.

Funny, I caught the tail end of that movie last night. I think it was a hell of a political commentary.

23 posted on 01/24/2008 3:20:15 AM PST by TankerKC (You don't have to believe everything you think.)
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To: Kurt Evans; bmwcyle; Berlin_Freeper; Kakaze; Bushwacker777; FocusNexus; samtheman; Cold Heat; ...

Look at the ISSUES. Huckabee is NOT the most conservative candidate left.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1958439/posts


24 posted on 01/24/2008 3:24:07 AM PST by DWar (The perfect is the enemy of the excellent!!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
You mean Huckabee wants to strengthen the laws to put a drag on the rampant growth of freaks in society? Yea, as a Conservative I am all for that!

You pretty much sum up what I think Hucksters believe. If you believe that it is government's role to "put a drag on the rampant growth of freaks in society" you are NOT a conservative.

25 posted on 01/24/2008 3:24:22 AM PST by TankerKC (You don't have to believe everything you think.)
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To: Bushwacker777

Mitt, Rudy, McCain, Huckabee........In that order!


26 posted on 01/24/2008 3:28:20 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (Number1FredHeadSwitch2Mitt)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
It is interesting that some people, including some FReepers, regard Huckabee as a conservative.

As does, obviously, Congressman Hunter.

It would be interesting to know how many of Hunter's supporters here were drawn to him because he was emphatic about his faith.

It has been assumed for a long time that the important part of the two-word designator "Christian Right" was "Right".

This may be incorrect. In fact, if you analyze the participation of political evangelicals in the process back to 1976 and forward to 2008, you would conclude that it probably IS incorrect.

Perhaps for political Christians, it's the Jesus talk that's essential, and everything else is open for discussion.

27 posted on 01/24/2008 3:30:16 AM PST by Jim Noble (Trails of trouble, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: Kurt Evans

Huckabee is only socially conservative.

He would govern like a Christian Democrat.

No thanks.


28 posted on 01/24/2008 3:31:16 AM PST by indylindy (Don't even ask me to vote for McCain, Rudy, or Huckster.)
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To: Bushwacker777
" ... He can only win if he freezes himself for 500 years and wakes up to a world like in Ideocracy where smart people have bred themselves out of existence."


Looked around lately?

We have either already done that, or the smart ones have migrated to parts unknown. ;)

29 posted on 01/24/2008 3:37:51 AM PST by G.Mason (And what is intelligence if not the craft of out-thinking our adversaries?)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
"Huckabee wants to strengthen the laws to put a drag on the rampant growth of freaks in society"

Yep. Freaks like people who drive certain cars, eat certain foods, smoke certain (legal) products... those freaks.

30 posted on 01/24/2008 3:40:14 AM PST by Tenniel2 (If you liked the nomenklatura, you'll love the PIAPSburo.)
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To: Jim Noble
Well just from this thread we can see the two major attacks on Huckabee.

On the one hand he is not a Conservative, with people saying he is actually a liberal in disguise.

Then on the other hand we have people calling him Stalin as if he wants to intrude in peoples private lives.

Excuse me but when the two major attacks are so completely different that tells me they got nothing.

Which is it people? He is either Stalin or he is the fifth Beatles. He can’t be both.

31 posted on 01/24/2008 3:47:35 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: Kurt Evans

I think we might see a Huckabee/Hunter Ticket next week, prior to the Florida Primaries.

At this point in time, they deserve each other, but not my vote!


32 posted on 01/24/2008 3:51:16 AM PST by not2worry ( What goes around comes around!)
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To: Tenniel2

Do you want your kids eating junk in public schools and becoming unhealthy and having life long health problems because of it? Everything has a specific context.


33 posted on 01/24/2008 3:51:59 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Why do people always leave Paul out? He’ll gut socialism and globalism like a fish, Goldwater style.

Duncan can support Huck all he wants. Sorry, Duncan, I can’t follow you over there.


34 posted on 01/24/2008 3:53:21 AM PST by ovrtaxt (In my fantasy world, the Dems run a Zell Miller/ Lieberman ticket...)
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To: indylindy

Aha there is that word “Conservative”.

At least show me where you get that with the others.


35 posted on 01/24/2008 3:53:32 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Sorry, He isn’t a Reagan conservative.

He only appeals to the evangelicals. Most do not understand that he is also a progressive.


36 posted on 01/24/2008 4:00:19 AM PST by indylindy (Don't even ask me to vote for McCain, Rudy, or Huckster.)
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To: Kurt Evans
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!

Bullsh!t.

37 posted on 01/24/2008 4:03:38 AM PST by rintense (You don't advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. Piss off McCain and Huck!)
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To: FocusNexus
I smell a secular agnostic (at best), or an anti-Christian God-hater (at worst) when I read comments like these.

First Supreme Court Chief Justice John Jay suggested that, as a Christian nation, it is our right (if not our obligation) to elect Chritian leaders. You got a problem with that, Lucifer?

;-/

38 posted on 01/24/2008 4:04:33 AM PST by Gargantua (For those who believe in God, no explanation is needed; for those who do not, no explanation exists.)
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To: indylindy
No need to be sorry. You only speak for yourself.

By saying “He isn’t a Reagan conservative.”

The implication is that he is still *some-kind* of a Conservative. Show me where you get that with the others that out weighs him.

39 posted on 01/24/2008 4:10:34 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

“Huckabee is a religious socialist and believes that government should control people’s lives, “for their own good”, of course.”


40 posted on 01/24/2008 4:18:18 AM PST by kindred (The GOP is the proverbial barrel of rotten apples, vote third party conservative.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

No use arguing with me. I won’t vote for Huck.

I think people who like none of these candidates are going to have do whatever feels right for them.

If they choose to vote against Hillary, I won’t flame them. If they choose not to vote for POTUS, I won’t flame them.

But if anybody gets the idea that this party is going to unite, en masse, around any of these choices, they are sorely mistaken.

Best we can do is hope the Dims keep fighting and depressing their voters.

So stop trying to parse words and such. Huck isn’t a conservative, he is a Christian democrat.

He is what he is, and I am turned off by it.


41 posted on 01/24/2008 4:21:07 AM PST by indylindy (Don't even ask me to vote for McCain, Rudy, or Huckster.)
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To: pissant; AuntB; RasterMaster; Kimberly GG; Brad's Gramma; tioga; Calpernia; Antonious; ...

FWIW


42 posted on 01/24/2008 4:23:13 AM PST by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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To: Kurt Evans

I’m thinking Hunter just made himself irrelevant. The fact that Hunter could endorse someone who slammed federal immigration raids, tried to give tuition / scholarship to illegals, called Amnesty as God’s way of giving us a second chance etc., is unfathomable. I don’t know what Hunter’s motivation was, perhaps it was a personal dislike of the other candidates. However, Hunter has demonstrated that he is willing to compromise his principles if the price is right.


43 posted on 01/24/2008 4:28:15 AM PST by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: Kurt Evans

His son needs to find something to do other than running for daddy’s seat. I will work to defeat this typical politician’s son.

LLS


44 posted on 01/24/2008 4:29:05 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote for?)
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To: Bushwacker777

“I like money”!

LLS


45 posted on 01/24/2008 4:29:49 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote for?)
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To: Cold Heat
...but it does say that Hunter is not very independent in his thought processes.

And you are? Especially considering the lockstep fashion in which you join others in calling Huckabee a socialist?

And this from a person who supports Romney, a pro-abort, pro-socialized medicine man?

Give me a break.

46 posted on 01/24/2008 4:33:47 AM PST by A2J (Love Jesus...hate "church.")
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To: indylindy
If things stay the same, these people embracing socialism without a clue will makeup November 5th to a nightmare on Pennsylvania Avenue. None are so blind as those that REFUSE to see. No worries mate... I've got your back!

LLS

47 posted on 01/24/2008 4:34:02 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims and vote for?)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
I think it is loony toons for someone to trash Huckabee as if they got something better with McCain, Romney or Giuliani from a Conservative point of view.

Agreed.

However, no one wants to admit that, like it or not, Huckabee is far more conservative than McCain, Giuliani or Romney.

And we wonder why the GOP is losing its conservative base.

48 posted on 01/24/2008 4:36:59 AM PST by A2J (Love Jesus...hate "church.")
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To: LibLieSlayer

Thanks. People do not see who Huck really is. I did some googling, after looking at some pretty compelling info, all the pieces of the Huckster fell into place and fit like glove.

Oh well, he wouldn’t win anyway. The Klintoons will see to that.


49 posted on 01/24/2008 4:37:59 AM PST by indylindy (Don't even ask me to vote for McCain, Rudy, or Huckster.)
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To: Kurt Evans
Huckabee is sinking.

Hunter is Sunk.

Duncan will speed up Huckabees exit from the race.

The problem for Duncan Hunter is he just killed his political future.
50 posted on 01/24/2008 4:38:02 AM PST by elizabetty ("Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm." .Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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