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Asteroid to make close pass by Earth next week (2007 TU24, 500 feet long, 334K miles whiz-by)
AP on Bakersfield Californian ^ | 1/24/08 | Alicia Chang - ap

Posted on 01/24/2008 12:20:06 PM PST by NormsRevenge

An asteroid at least 500 feet long will make a rare close pass by Earth next week, but there is no chance of an impact, scientists reported Thursday.

The object, known as 2007 TU24, is expected to whiz by Earth on Tuesday with its closest approach at 334,000 miles, or about 1 1/2 times the distance of Earth to the moon.

The nighttime encounter should be bright enough for medium-sized telescopes to get a glimpse, said Don Yeomans, manager of the Near-Earth Object Program Office at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, which tracks potentially dangerous space rocks.

However, next week's asteroid pass "has no chance of hitting, or affecting, Earth," Yeomans said.

An actual collision of a similar-sized object with Earth occurs on average every 37,000 years.

Spotted last October by the NASA-funded Catalina Sky Survey in Arizona, 2007 TU24 is estimated to be between 500 feet and 2,000 feet long. The next time an asteroid this size will fly this close to Earth will be in 2027.

Scientists plan to point the Goldstone radar telescope in California and the Arecibo radar telescope in Puerto Rico at the asteroid and observe its path before and after its closest approach to Earth. Researchers will use instruments to measure its rotation and composition.

The 2007 TU24 rendezvous comes a day before another asteroid is projected to pass close to Mars.

Scientists have effectively ruled out a collision between the Red Planet and the asteroid 2007 WD5, estimating it will pass at a distance of more than 16,000 miles from the Martian surface. Initial observations of the Mars-bound asteroid put the odds of an impact at 1 in 25 before dropping to 1 in 10,000.


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KEYWORDS: asteroid; astronomy; catastrophism; earth; justafleshwound; nasa; nextweek; wearedoomed
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1 posted on 01/24/2008 12:20:08 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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Near Earth Object Program

http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/


2 posted on 01/24/2008 12:21:22 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: NormsRevenge

How about the moon? Is the moon in danger? It would be entertaining and scientifically productive to have a fresh crater on the moon and a shower of tektites to astonish people who are outdoors looking for UFOs anyway.


3 posted on 01/24/2008 12:23:06 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: NormsRevenge
I've got lots of quarters. I'll take care of it.
4 posted on 01/24/2008 12:23:15 PM PST by Slapshot68
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To: NormsRevenge

“but there is no chance of an impact, scientists reported Thursday.”

I hope these aren’t the same ‘scientists’ that Al Gore keeps talking about.


5 posted on 01/24/2008 12:24:03 PM PST by Spok (Now a confirmed one issue voter; RTKBA.)
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To: RightWhale

Look at the moon. Those craters - the ol’ dude took those hits for us, man...

One of the requirements that cosmologists have discovered/derived for intelligent life to exist in a solar system are “shields” to keep the life supporting planet from getting hit so much. We have our gas giants, and our moon.


6 posted on 01/24/2008 12:25:40 PM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: NormsRevenge; Allegra; Lurkin Lurch

So they want us to think...it’s probably gonna hit, but they can’t risk panic, Evil Government! HA! I’m just giving kudos to ridiculous Hollywood movies...personally, I’d rather not know and go out with the fireworks, the way God wants it!


7 posted on 01/24/2008 12:26:47 PM PST by wazoo1031
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Don Yeomans
NASA/JPL Near-Earth Object Program Office
January 22, 2008

Asteroid 2007 TU24, discovered by the Catalina Sky Survey on October 11, 2007 will closely approach the Earth to within 1.4 lunar distances (334,000 miles) on 2008 Jan. 29 08:33 UT. This object, between 150 and 600 meters in diameter, will reach an approximate apparent magnitude 10.3 on Jan. 29-30 before quickly becoming fainter as it moves further from Earth. For a brief time the asteroid will be observable in dark and clear skies with amateur telescopes of 3 inch apertures or larger.

For an interactive illustration of this object's orbit see: http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=2007+TU24&orb=1

The illustration below is courtesy of amateur astronomer Dr. Dale Ireland from Silverdale, WA. The illustration shows the asteroid's track on the sky for 3 days near the time of the close Earth approach as seen from the city of Philadelphia. Since the object's parallax will be a significant fraction of a degree, observers are encouraged to use our on-line Horizons ephemeris generation service for their specific locations. These personalized ephemeris tables can be generated at: http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/horizons.cgi?find_body=1&body_group=sb&sstr=2007%20TU24

Given the estimated number of near-Earth asteroids of this size (about 7,000 discovered and undiscovered objects), an object of this size would be expected to pass this close to Earth, on average, about every 5 years or so. The average interval between actual Earth impacts for an object of this size would be about 37,000 years. For the January 29th encounter, near Earth asteroid 2007 TU24 has no chance of hitting, or affecting, Earth.

2007 TU24 will be the closest currently known approach by a potentially hazardous asteroid of this size or larger until 2027. Plans have been made for the Goldstone planetary radar to observe this object Jan 23-24 and for the Arecibo radar to observe it Jan 27-28 and then Feb 1-4. High resolution radar imaging is expected, which may permit later 3-D shape reconstruction.


8 posted on 01/24/2008 12:26:51 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: MrB

We wouldn’t be here now if some asteroid or super-lava event hadn’t cleared the dinosaurs out of our way.
We need these hits now and then to keep the planet youthful.


9 posted on 01/24/2008 12:29:09 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: wazoo1031
The Coast to Coast radio show will have a field day with this.
10 posted on 01/24/2008 12:32:05 PM PST by Allegra (It'll be a cold day in Hell when it snows in Baghdad.)
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To: RightWhale

Yeah, that’s kinda the point - we need “just enough” hits to deposit water, organic material, etc,

but not too many that would hinder the development of a techno society.


11 posted on 01/24/2008 12:32:17 PM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: NormsRevenge

Nice map. Easy way to remember the brightest point is finding the north star and look 10 degrees south of that star on the evening of Jan 29. If you extend your fist out at the object, the width of your fist is about 10-15 degrees, as a reference.


12 posted on 01/24/2008 12:33:22 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Allegra

Coast had this last night, but they will have more tonight, without a doubt.


13 posted on 01/24/2008 12:35:04 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: NormsRevenge
Actually, it’s the mothership from those “aircraft” over Texas.
14 posted on 01/24/2008 12:36:02 PM PST by Lancer_N3502A
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To: MrB
Look at the moon. Those craters - the ol’ dude took those hits for us, man...

One could as well argue that because they took the hits, life thrived on Earth. As in, chance, again.

Besides, it's not like the Earth hasn't taken any hits on its own, either. The dinosaurs went out because of a mega-impact hit that the Earth took.

15 posted on 01/24/2008 12:36:43 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: wazoo1031

I get a big laugh out of the new ones that make the list... after being discovered on the way outbound... meaning they were unknown until after they passed Earth.


16 posted on 01/24/2008 12:37:31 PM PST by SpinnerWebb (Islam ... If you can't join them, beat them.)
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To: NormsRevenge; wazoo1031

17 posted on 01/24/2008 12:40:18 PM PST by Allegra (It'll be a cold day in Hell when it snows in Baghdad.)
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To: NormsRevenge

It may miss us but what happens if it’s course is changed after it’s sideswiped by some dumb strumpet in an SUV talking on her cell phone?


18 posted on 01/24/2008 12:40:48 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Ya gotta deflect it if necessary.BUT if it’s just a missle headed for new york, ya gotta let it come on in. See? No missle defense allowed! Got it?


19 posted on 01/24/2008 12:41:43 PM PST by Waco
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To: Allegra

Did that last night.


20 posted on 01/24/2008 12:41:51 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: RightWhale
Coast had this last night, but they will have more tonight, without a doubt.

How I'd love to hear some of those callers.

I haven't heard that show in ages. I kind of miss it. ;-)

21 posted on 01/24/2008 12:41:54 PM PST by Allegra (It'll be a cold day in Hell when it snows in Baghdad.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

At what point does “chance” cease to be plausible?

1/100? 10E-1000? How about, given the number of stars in our galaxy divided by all the requirements for technological life, there should be .01 “earths” in our galaxy?

Could a person’s fingerprints form by chance at a crime scene? After all, it’s just a certain configuration of chemicals!


22 posted on 01/24/2008 12:44:17 PM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: MrB
Umm, consider this: The universe has infinite volume. By infinite, I don’t mean ‘very large’. Rather, infinite as in there can never be a physical bounding region for the universe. Say there is a brick wall at the end of the universe. Even then, either more bricks should lie beyond the brick wall, or more space, again. Endlessly.

When infinite possibilities exist, no matter how absurd 10e10000 may sound, the existence of the number of combinations required to mathematically satisfy that probability can’t be denied.

23 posted on 01/24/2008 12:54:37 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: MrB

Best tagline nomination!


24 posted on 01/24/2008 12:57:03 PM PST by labette
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To: CarrotAndStick

Infinity does not guarantee that all outcomes will be realized.

Giving a monkey a typewriter and an infinite amount of time will not result in the monkey producing an exact copy of War and Peace. Your argument of infinite possibilities may show that it can’t be said to be impossible, yet I’m infinitely certain that I’m correct about the monkey’s limitations.;-)


25 posted on 01/24/2008 1:00:13 PM PST by SampleMan
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To: SampleMan
Infinity does not guarantee that all outcomes will be realized.

True.

Nor does it deny to zero probability, even the most absurd-to-realise combination from occurring.

26 posted on 01/24/2008 1:03:31 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: NormsRevenge
I assume this is the one that was going to kill us all?
27 posted on 01/24/2008 1:05:22 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (A good marriage is like a casserole, only those responsible for it really know what goes into it.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

Actually, the universe has an edge, is finite and expanding from a single point in time and space. This has been observed due to the redshifts of the farthest stars.

It’s big, yes, but the conditions necessary for heavier element formation only existed for a “short” amount of time at the start. You can’t have intelligent life based on H & He alone.

I’ve done my research on this, read interviews with many leading cosmologists, many recent books and articles on the topic.


28 posted on 01/24/2008 1:08:56 PM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: SampleMan

It can be logically proven that the concept of infinite can only exist in mathematics, but not in a physical sense.
(It’s a long proof, not suitable for a FR forum.)


29 posted on 01/24/2008 1:10:38 PM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: MrB

Wait, you said that the universe has an edge.

If it has an edge, then what lies beyond this edge? More volume?


30 posted on 01/24/2008 1:11:45 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

By definition, nothing. Just as there was nothing before the big bang.


31 posted on 01/24/2008 1:15:51 PM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: MrB

What I was trying to ask is this: Let’s assume you are standing at the “edge” that you mentioned. What would you “see” if you looked outward?

If you’re seeing more space ahead, then it still means that the entire universe (not just the material universe) is infinite, and not just very big.


32 posted on 01/24/2008 1:18:58 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: MrB

Yes, that itself is an absurdity there. Nothing. Empty space is still volume. What are the physical dimensions of that which is nothing? Unfathomable, right?


33 posted on 01/24/2008 1:20:17 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Wow that’s pretty close. Amazing we haven’t been hit in so long. We’re certainly blessed


34 posted on 01/24/2008 1:21:16 PM PST by squireofgothos
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To: Slapshot68

~giggle~


35 posted on 01/24/2008 1:22:07 PM PST by TexasNative2000 (Is this tagline governed by McCain-Feingold?)
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To: squireofgothos

yeah, must be just luck...


36 posted on 01/24/2008 1:23:02 PM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: CarrotAndStick

other parallel universes lie beyond ours


37 posted on 01/24/2008 1:26:47 PM PST by Omglol
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To: CarrotAndStick

Here’s a decent article on it.

The sum up their ideas with a big “we don’t know”.

http://www4.ncsu.edu/unity/lockers/users/f/felder/public/kenny/papers/cosmo.html


38 posted on 01/24/2008 1:27:21 PM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: RightWhale

***How about the moon? Is the moon in danger? ***

That would screw up tidal marsh fishing schedules.


39 posted on 01/24/2008 1:27:44 PM PST by sodpoodle
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To: Omglol

If so, then more opportunities for the most absurd, to occur.

:^)


40 posted on 01/24/2008 1:28:42 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: MrB

I gave that a quick glance, but will read in detail later.

From what I gathered, he is referring to the “finiteness” of the envelope of matter that we call the “universe”.

If this envelope is growing, and filling up a void, it still means that the classical definition of the universe, i.e. the envelope of matter plus the space that it is advancing into, is infinite.


41 posted on 01/24/2008 1:34:39 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: CarrotAndStick
What I was trying to ask is this: Let’s assume you are standing at the “edge” that you mentioned. What would you “see” if you looked outward? If you’re seeing more space ahead, then it still means that the entire universe (not just the material universe) is infinite, and not just very big.

The surface of the Earth has no edge, yet the surface of the Earth is finite in area

Space is curved, and it looks like space is closed, and has a finite amount of mass.

42 posted on 01/24/2008 1:36:18 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (When injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: SauronOfMordor
Space is curved, and it looks like space is closed, and has a finite amount of mass.

Say this space is the Earth's surface. What happens when a "spaceship" pierces out of it, or attempts to do so?

Will it disappear at the boundary and re-appear at the diametrically opposite boundary, like in some of those video games?

43 posted on 01/24/2008 1:39:31 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

I’ve written some “universe” games, and the toroidal universe that you’re referring to is one of the easiest to implement...


44 posted on 01/24/2008 1:43:04 PM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: NormsRevenge
334,000 miles!!?? That's damned close baby.

Cosmologically speaking....a mere whisker.

45 posted on 01/24/2008 1:45:31 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Bureaucracy is a parasite that preys on Free Thought and suffocates Free Spirit.)
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To: MrB

What I was trying to say was that if a particular shape is confining the universe, shouldn’t the regions that are confining this universe also be a part of the universe? If yes, then there is no physical limit to the universe, is there?


46 posted on 01/24/2008 1:46:14 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: MrB
It can be logically proven that the concept of infinite can only exist in mathematics, but not in a physical sense.

How can the universe not be infinite in a physical sense?

47 posted on 01/24/2008 1:54:34 PM PST by SampleMan
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To: squireofgothos

We actually get “hit” several times a day. It’s just that most of it is too small to make it through atmo. The stuff that does is to small for us to notice hitting, but still comes through very very often.

What’s amazing is that we haven’t been hit by something big for so long.


48 posted on 01/24/2008 2:09:00 PM PST by Domandred (Eagles soar, but unfortunately weasels never get sucked into jet engines)
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To: RightWhale; Allegra
Re: Coast

About time they started getting back to entertaining theories, rather than the usual knee-jerk BDS, America is the great Satan, and GW is only caused by human activity BS.

Looks like it was the first half of hour three. That might be worth listening to.

And I'll give LMH a ear too. Last time she was on, she was hyping something like crop circles are warning signs of GW.

My take is that all crops burning to a crisp MIGHT be a sign of GW...

49 posted on 01/24/2008 2:53:27 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: NormsRevenge; Calvin Locke; RightWhale; Bloody Sam Roberts; M. Espinola; Calpernia
Looks like this warning has been posted already and directly from an AP source quoting NASA.

This Source is Disputing NASA's News Release . . . Above Top Secret has posted a report saying NASA is closely monitoring the incoming asteroid. Rumored to not be upgrading reports like they are required to do. ATS says a NASA insider tipped them off.

I'm not saying this info is accurate or trustworthy. Just saying it out there on the web.

Also you may Take a peek at one of these YouTube Videos. They occasionally get overloaded thus I linked to three sources:

Alternative #1

Alternative #2

Alternative # 3

50 posted on 01/24/2008 3:51:36 PM PST by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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