Posted on 01/24/2008 9:47:43 PM PST by Graybeard58
This is the nut of the thing. The way you state it is one side of the coin, and the "coalition" you refer to has to do with the identification of the word "conservative" when it comes to distinct social-moral issues as differentiated from fiscal issues. There is another side of the coin -- that is that limited government that best serves the interest of social-moral issues as it does fiscal issues.
The Federal government thinks it is immoral for an employer to fire an employee for being gay. So you own a shop, you hire a 23-year-old kid who seems okay, but after awhile starts wearing his sexuality on his sleeve, swishing and sashing (he thinks it's so cute). You know he's a confused mixed-up kid who needs to learn the hard realities of moral life, and you're hoping and betting that left to his own, in ten years the kid will regard this bizarre rebellious "walk on the wild side" as an embarassing phase. You'd love to fire the kid, and it would probably be the best thing for him. But the Federal Government thinks that's immoral, and you can't. That's one small work-a-day example of how evil Federal-moral meddling can be. Further, the Federal Government thinks it's immoral for poor women to have to go without abortions, so across this nation, taxpayers are forced to abet abortion. Federal moralism has deprived us of the right to discriminate against those we'd rather not deal with for whatever reasons, usually moral. Morality or lack of it did not cause this supression of our freedom -- abandonment of Limited Government did.
Long way of saying that this is a battle about the coalition and the confusion in the minds of some "conservatives" as to which comes first, the cart or the horse. The heavy hand of Federal moralism will fail every time, whether "liberal" or "conservative," because it abandons Limited Government. We need to make it plain to "social" conservatives that Limited Government, not pick-n-choose-your-government-program, is in their interst.
More important, we must recognize and admit that cowing to pick'-n-choose-your-government-program "compassionate" conservatism is against the interest of the Republican party, hence a false premise for a coalition.
That’s OK, it’s late. About time to hang it up for the night. Even though your tag line says you don’t think it will help, I’ll say a prayer for you.
God help us, but you may be right.
If we could only get people to realize the government as a money dispenser is like a change machine that gives you 50 cents back for every dollar you put in.
Stance on the Second Amendment has been a non-topic, also.
The scary part of that is if the coming SCOTUS decision does not fall squarely on the founders' intent of an individual right to militarily capable small arms, that leaves the field wide open for a gun-grabbing field day which only the POTUS could stop with the veto.
The current field of candidates gives me no cause for confidence in the event that ruling is incorrect.
Yep, pick one: 1) Socialist "Light"TM 2) Marxist Socialist 2) Clueless Socialist
Lovely. I'll take some gubbamint cheese to go with that whine, may as well enjoy myself.
Careful, that Gubmint cheese is far more binding than a Contract for America...
That’s very kind, thank you. Good night.
Thank you for posting this article. This is exactly how my whole family out here in CA feels. We keep asking each other “Who are we going to vote for now”??????? It makes me sick sick sick sick.
For sure NOT McCain! The others, ah jeez and I don’t want to be a Paulbot!
My candidate didn't win so the system must be rigged. The voters are just too stupid to vote for Duncan Hunter. George Soros and the Clintons control the Republican nomination. Vote fraud done us in. The poor guy's been disenfrenchfried. OK, let's switch the first primary to his state so that he can vote for his choice. California is going to give us some REAL conservatives.
The current setup is the perfect opportunity for a conservative with broadbased appeal and little money. If he can convince Republicans in just two small states to support him, the road is open. If he can't, he is roadkill.
Politics is no yellow brick road. Conservatives should have the wind at our back. There is a formula for winning, we just have to be willing to look for it and know what it is when we find it. Sniveling isn't it, leave that to the Democrats.
Ha Ha, I got a phone call from RNC asking me “Do you want to see Hillary elected”, Hillary blah, blah, blah. Boo! I told them I wasn’t impressed at all with Republicans and I don’t identify with them much anymore. She hung up on me. :)
You are closest to the solution to the primary process and the fragmentation of the RepParty.
April 15 is a good start but let it run until Jun 15.
Then have the conventions between Jul 1 and Aug 15.
By bracketing the start dates and curtailing the lack of party discipline (my state first) the issue of disenfranchisement ceases.
Most of these posts miss the point that Rockefellar republicans are in the party at all and thereby making
RINO an incorrect term, it should be CINO.
Recall that the RockefellarWing is as liberal as the KennedyWing.
By not having any party discipline and purge the party of ALL LIBERAL factions (socialist/neocons by other names spells Commie/fellow traveler)is the cause of the current matters in force.
If that purge could occur then RINO would have come accuratcy.
I’m with you. I am pissed that the people of Iowa, NH and SC basically made the choices for the rest of us. Come on three states out of 50? That leaves an awful lot of us out of the process.
If the primaries are purely internal then they should all be closed. After the parties elect it’s nominee then let them duke it out for the crossovers and independants.
I too was shocked at AC’s choice. And then it occured to me that “there’s been a whole lot of faking going on”.
As I watch who the various pundits/ex-candidates select as their man, it is clear that these folks are doin’ some serious deceits. How can there be so much disconnect between espoused positions and their candidate choice.
If one thing is of value from all this confusion is the shakeout of who is a true conservative and who is/has been only faking it. For when the nut-cuttin time came who stood ground and stayed put and who ducked and ran and flip-floped.
As one pundit stated, Ron Paul is more conservative than ANY of the remaining candidates and he has NOT run away or ducked out.
Thanks AC, FT and DH - FOR NOTHING. Now we know.
The RNC hacks in DC don’t have a clue. They will allow this to continue unabated. It is asinine.
That is not exactly true. In Ann Coulter's defense, she always said she was FOR Duncan Hunter- He was her favorite. But she also predicted that Romney would eventually get the nod. Her analysis of who would get to the end, and who was the best of that lot has been pretty accurate.
These are supposed to be national elections, not independent state elections.
The author should brush up on his Constitution and try to gain some insight into Federalism and the Electoral College. The truth is that we have fifty seperate state elections on the same day in November.
“on the same day”.. end of lesson.
Romney's a two faced phony; flip-flopper....
I DON'T TRUST HIM!
We're screwed.
I don’t agree with everything this guy says, but a lot of it makes a helluva lot of sense. And he’s from Los Angeles???
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