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Economics Dominate Florida Debate
GOPublius.com ^ | January 24, 2008 | GOPublius.com

Posted on 01/24/2008 10:40:03 PM PST by americanophile

Thursday’s Republican debate in Florida, which was calm, respectful and thoughtful, contrasted sharply with the rancorous and largely shallow Democratic debate in South Carolina held days earlier. In what was a largely, low-key, policy-heavy debate, domestic issues and economics took center stage, while foreign policy concerns such as Iraq were little mentioned.

The emphasis on domestic matters deprived Senator McCain of his strongest issue - his clear leadership on Iraq and the War on Terror, and forced McCain to play on slightly foreign economic turf. Senator McCain was particularly weakened by a sharp question from moderator Tim Russert in which Russert quoted McCain’s admission that he needed to be “educated” on the economy. McCain, was also treated to needling questions about his age and reputation for a mercurial temper, though McCain diffused those questions effectively and with good humor, and was later aided by Governor Huckabee who rose in defense of Senator McCain’s vigor.

Economics also proved to be a less suitable match for Governor Huckabee, who is seen as lacking authority on economic matters and has been vigorously criticized by pro-growth economic groups such as the Club for Growth. Nevertheless, Huckabee’s strongest debate moment was indeed on an economic issue - a softball question from Senator McCain involving Huckabee’s Fair Tax proposal, in which he delivered a vision for a simpler, consumer-based taxed plan along with a crowd-pleasing indictment of the IRS.

For political observers reading between the lines, it was apparent that McCain and Huckabee shared a mutual desire to be non-aggressive with one another, and signaled the possibility of a McCain/Huckabee ticket.

Tonight’s undoubted winner however was Governor Romney, who demonstrated once again a smooth, presidential style, and a considerable proficiency in fiscal and economic matters. Despite several tough questions, including another question about his faith, Romney delivered what MSNBC anchor Chris Matthews described as “commanding” answers. This sentiment was shared by viewers who participated in the unscientific text-message poll which followed the debate, and named Romney the decisive debate winner - overshadowing Senator McCain by more than 20 points. Romney’s performance also included hard-hitting jabs at Senator Hillary Clinton and a memorable, crowd-pleasing line about Americans not wanting former President Bill Clinton back in the White House “with nothing to do.” Romney also appeared to be the recepient of more questions than any other candidate, and therefore shared a concomitant plurality of valuable air-time.

Coming in last according to respondents was the normally sharp Mayor Giuliani, who delivered a less memorable and more distracted performance than usual. Though it should be noted that Giuliani was the recipient of the evening’s most overtly negative question - a call to respond to an ugly, ad homonym attack by the New York Times.

For Florida voters only now making their decisions, tonight’s debate will no doubt inure to the benefit of Governor Romney who looked and sounded every bit the chief executive. With polls already trending his way, this Boca Raton debate could prove to be the decisive moment that could catapult Romney to victory in Florida, and the unchallenged status as national GOP frontrunner.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: debate; elections; fl2008; florida; gopdebates; mccain; mitt; mittromney; romney; romneytruthfile
"Tonight’s undoubted winner however was Governor Romney, who demonstrated once again a smooth, presidential style, and a considerable proficiency in fiscal and economic matters."
1 posted on 01/24/2008 10:40:04 PM PST by americanophile
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To: Abbeville Conservative; ajay_kumar; Austin1; bethtopaz; BlueAngel; Bluestateredman; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 01/24/2008 10:41:05 PM PST by americanophile
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To: americanophile

“Tonight’s undoubted winner however was Governor Romney”

True.


3 posted on 01/24/2008 10:44:41 PM PST by Grunthor (I'm voting for Flipper.)
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To: americanophile

Romney was pretty good though he sounded like a Keynesian at the beginning when he said about the rebate: “What’s effective is that he’s giving money back to consumers”
The rebate won’t be effective at all.


4 posted on 01/24/2008 10:45:20 PM PST by ari-freedom (The only straight talk is conservative talk.)
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To: americanophile

Wait, you mean that instead of complaining what each other did as trial lawyers decades ago, like being on Wal-Mart’s BoD or the Rose Law Firm, that the GOP candidates actually discussed economic measures like tax rebates that will help our economy?!

No wonder the news media despises the GOP; adults are less fun than teenagers with the car keys and a bottle of booze.


5 posted on 01/24/2008 10:51:26 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: americanophile
Whatever my feelings about him, people have to start facing reality--Romney is the best of the lot.

I'll reduce it to this simple level: When he gets up on stage against either Hillary or Obama, ALL of their major arguments--about healthcare, "insiders" and "change," economics--will be demolished. He can tell them about DOING something about healthcare--even if I don't like what he did, the majority of Americans WANT something done; he can laugh at their poses as Senators pretending to be "outsiders"; and he can ask them "When have either of you worked in, let alone managed, a 7-11?"

All of this is no-brainer stuff. Romney doesn't even have to SAY any of this. The average stupid American, who will decide this election, will be able to figure it out for him or herself.

Then Hillary will cry and women will vote against mean old Romney...

But I can't see a situation where Huckabee, McCain or Giuliani beats either Hillary or Obama.

6 posted on 01/24/2008 10:53:04 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life atheist)
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To: Darkwolf377

senators rarely win the presidency. I should’ve seen that coming with fred.


7 posted on 01/24/2008 10:56:06 PM PST by ari-freedom (The only straight talk is conservative talk.)
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To: ari-freedom
Sitting senators even more rarely. If McCain is our nominee, we will break precedent, seeing how it'll be Hillary or Obama.

Yech, what a choice...

8 posted on 01/24/2008 10:57:50 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life atheist)
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To: Darkwolf377

romney is the “steve forbes” that actually held elected office. I think he has a better chance this time


9 posted on 01/24/2008 11:03:43 PM PST by ari-freedom (The only straight talk is conservative talk.)
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To: americanophile; Reaganesque
Mitt Romney was MAGNIFICENT at the debate tonight! I can’t wait for him to get a chance to tear the Hildebeast a new one.

Just because he’s a nice guy, it doesn’t mean he’s weak. It will be a sight to see when the Klintoons realize that. When the time comes, he will have the Klintoons pounding sand and liberals having apoplectic fits.

I see a bright future ahead with President Romney at the helm!! GO MITT GO!

10 posted on 01/24/2008 11:06:59 PM PST by rscully (I Am S'Mitt'en!! President Romney 2008!)
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To: americanophile

not to mention....

‘IT’S THE ECONOMY STUPID’


11 posted on 01/24/2008 11:25:16 PM PST by flat
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To: americanophile

Romney exceeded my expectations tonight.


12 posted on 01/24/2008 11:31:13 PM PST by ajay_kumar (United we win, divided democrats win. How difficult is that to understand?)
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To: ari-freedom

That rebate money will be better spent by tax payers than the bloated government.


13 posted on 01/24/2008 11:32:59 PM PST by ajay_kumar (United we win, divided democrats win. How difficult is that to understand?)
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To: ari-freedom

Except Romney is 10 times better looking than Forbes and has 5 times better speaking ability. Intellect wise they are on par.


14 posted on 01/24/2008 11:35:32 PM PST by ajay_kumar (United we win, divided democrats win. How difficult is that to understand?)
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To: ajay_kumar

true but it won’t really help the economy. Remember Say’s law. There can be no demand without supply. Romney understood this as he continued to speak.

It’s just that this rebate is a lot of money that could be used to deliver a much better tax cut.


15 posted on 01/24/2008 11:46:23 PM PST by ari-freedom (The only straight talk is conservative talk.)
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To: ajay_kumar

yes Forbes did give that impression he was a super nerd :)


16 posted on 01/24/2008 11:47:15 PM PST by ari-freedom (The only straight talk is conservative talk.)
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To: ari-freedom

and on that point I concurr. I am looking at this rebate like Reagan did with deficit spending. Reagan figured out correctly that it was better to spend money on tax cuts than socialistic spending by the government. If there is a silver lining in deficit spending is that the cost to service the debt keeps a lid on how big the national debt can get.


17 posted on 01/24/2008 11:52:41 PM PST by ajay_kumar (United we win, divided democrats win. How difficult is that to understand?)
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To: ajay_kumar

well a big tax cut that doesn’t grow the economy will make it hard, if Hillary does win, to spend more money on new govt programs as she’ll face a big deficit.


18 posted on 01/25/2008 12:04:46 AM PST by ari-freedom (The only straight talk is conservative talk.)
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To: americanophile

Romney did an outstanding job.


19 posted on 01/25/2008 12:20:02 AM PST by Gator113 (Romney-Pissant 2008 ;>))
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To: americanophile

I didn’t think anybody won. It was a real yawner. They must have had some kind of agreement to not take the gloves off.


20 posted on 01/25/2008 4:10:43 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: americanophile

As a Fredhead looking for a candidate, Huckabee proved to me last night he is NOT THE ONE I would choose to fix the economy.

On the same day my Wife and I were pondering how to use our stimulus package Tax Rebate to stimulate the economy - Huckabee tells us in last nights debate that he thinks it would be better spent adding 2 lanes to a highway on the East Coast. Oh yea, now that’s a great way to stimulate the economy in fly-over country and out here on the West Coast - Not.


21 posted on 01/25/2008 5:26:14 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: Grunthor

False


22 posted on 01/25/2008 5:39:57 AM PST by a77 (McCain for President)
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To: a77

McCain worse than lost it defending the “cap and trade” carbon tax which is a road map for the final destruction of America as an industrial power. The cap and trade is based on a false premise - global warming.


23 posted on 01/25/2008 5:52:15 AM PST by mission9 (It ain't bragging if you can do it.)
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To: a77

Perhaps you enjoy being Juans’ commode....being stabbed in the back on a consistent basis. Most of the rest of us simply do not. So you can continue to shill for that POS all you want, just do it in someone elses direction, I’m not interested.


24 posted on 01/25/2008 8:34:09 AM PST by Grunthor (I'm voting for Flipper.)
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To: americanophile

Florida Voter Guides

http://www.flfamily.org/ffpcnew3.php?alertid=247


25 posted on 01/25/2008 9:24:12 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: americanophile
...and was later aided by Governor Huckabee who rose in defense of Senator McCain’s vigor.

...Huckabee’s strongest debate moment was indeed on an economic issue - a softball question from Senator McCain

... it was apparent that McCain and Huckabee shared a mutual desire to be non-aggressive with one another,

Liberal Love Fest.

26 posted on 01/25/2008 9:25:10 AM PST by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: ajay_kumar

Excellent quote. I am going to use it in a Forbes interview today!


27 posted on 01/25/2008 9:30:27 AM PST by whitedog57
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To: americanophile

I appreciate the reasons that many FReepers have given for voting for either Giuliani or Romney in the primary. I understand the concerns that neither Huckaboob or McCain win our delegates. Nonetheless, I am tired of having to choose from among “lesser evils.” I still find no reason to trust Romney - particularly since I have Republican friends who lived in Massachusetts under his administration. They are more opposed to him than we on FR are opposed to Hillary.

That leaves me a choice of voting for Rudy to stop any one candidate from amassing the 1191 delegates, and hoping that the convention chooses a CONSISTENT Conservative (vs. a “conservative of convenience” for the purpose of gathering votes) - or voting for Fred Thompson, to send the message to the RNC that I won’t choose the lesser of two evils, that I won’t “fall into line” as Karl Rove said, “because I have no where else to go.” Sorry, but falling into line and swallowing the poison has not helped. I just keep getting poisoned.

Not going to swallow for Mitt. Wouldn’t swallow for Governor Suntan, and he has proven I was right. I am just tired of being taken for granted by the GOP. Yeah, I know all the excuses we have for voting against the Demonrat come November, but this is the primary, when we are supposed to chose a standard bearer. Mittens just can’t carry our standard very well; he keeps turning it over and over while he twists in the wind. He sounds conservative now - but if he were to get the nomination, and start seeking the votes of Independents and “moderates,” he will return to his Massachusetts Liberal habits.

Is there any FReeper who can honestly say they don’t believe that? You believe him on RKBA? on taxes? on life? on illegal aliens? Honestly? or have you already drank the poison?


28 posted on 01/25/2008 9:33:40 AM PST by womanvet (The lesser of two evils is still evil)
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To: ajay_kumar
Except Romney is 10 times better looking than Forbes and has 5 times better speaking ability. Intellect wise they are on par.

I haven't endorsed Romney, but he's certainly not a swishy degenerate like Forbes, who has endorsed Rudy this year. Mentally, Romney is much sharper than Forbes.

29 posted on 01/25/2008 9:38:46 AM PST by tear gas (Because of the 22nd Amendment, we are losing President. Bush. Can we afford to lose him now?)
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To: whitedog57

Mucho Gracious Senor!


30 posted on 01/25/2008 11:30:39 AM PST by ajay_kumar (United we win, divided democrats win. How difficult is that to understand?)
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To: americanophile

I think Romney really distinguished himself from the pack last night, visible to all that watched.


31 posted on 01/25/2008 12:54:46 PM PST by TheLion
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To: americanophile

OK. The nightmare ticket after Hillary/Obama would be McCain/Huckabee. Yikes.


32 posted on 01/25/2008 4:53:24 PM PST by Utah Girl
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To: americanophile
Americans not wanting former President Bill Clinton back in the White House “with nothing to do.”

Bingo. And he would run around the world apologizing for President Bush's alleged mistakes. It would be a disaster. Plus the women in the White House wouldn't be safe. Well, Hillary's friends might be um, because they aren't interested in men. (sorry to be so snarky)

33 posted on 01/25/2008 4:55:29 PM PST by Utah Girl
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