Barack Obama: not Muslim, not Christian

Renew America ^ | January 24, 2008 | Grant Swank

[Graybeard58]

Okay. I take him at his word.

He's not Muslim though there is a smear campaign going on saying that he is.

However, when he says he's a Christian, he's not.

Why?

Barack Obama supports murder and sodomy, both of which are not according to Christian ethics per the Bible.

Obama supports murdering children in women's wombs.

Obama supports homosexual activity.

Whatever ethic is provided via divine revelation in both Old and New Testaments is what biblical believers hold to.

Obama is brazen enough to write his own religion and call it "Christian."

Further, he belongs to one of the most theologically liberal Protestant denominations — the United Church of Christ (Congregational). This denomination endorses abortion and homosexual practice, thus defying God's Word.

Bottom line: Obama states he is not Muslim. He is not. Obama states he is Christian. He is not.

One last word: Obama says he talks to Jesus. According to Scripture, Jesus does not honor Obama's petitions unless Obama repents of his immoral positions, confesses those sins in asking for divine mercy and makes a complete turn-about in favor of biblical ethics.

Therefore, Obama's Jesus is not the biblical Jesus who will one day judge Obama's soul according to Matthew 25:31-46.

ADDENDUM:

ANTI-HOMOSEXUAL PASSAGES IN THE BIBLE:

Leviticus 18:22: "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."

Leviticus 20:13: "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them."

Romans 1:18-32: "For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. . .For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God, or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools. . .

"Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, that their bodies might be dishonored among them. For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. . .

"For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire towards one another, men with men committed indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.

"God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, malice; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice. . .without understanding. . . and, although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them."

I Corinthians 6:9: "Do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived, neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

The Bible speaks of a fetus as a person, not simply tissue that can be discarded if found to be a bother or nuisance. Since the fetus is a person from the moment of conception, then the destroying of the fetus is killing a person. "In the past, some people have mistakenly speculated that perhaps the body might be in the process of formation for some time, and then 'God breathes a soul into it.' They had it backward. The life that is present forms matter into a body for itself' (Joseph Breig, "Life Forms Matter," The Catholic News, Jan. 24, 1974, p. 8).

BIBLICAL PASSAGES CONCERNING ABORTION:

"Your hands shaped me and made me. Will you now turn and destroy me? Remember that you molded me like clay. Will you now turn me to dust again? Did you not pour me out like milk ... and knit me together with bones and sinews? You gave me life and showed me kindness, and in your providence watched over my spirit" (Job 10:8-12 NIV).

"Before I was born the LORD called me; from my birth he has made mention of my name...and now the LORD says — he who formed me in the womb to be his servant..." (Isaiah 49:1, 5).

"The word of the LORD came to me, saying, 'Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations'" (Jeremiah 1:4-5).

In the following passages we note that personality is ascribed to the unborn.

"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that fully well. My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place. When I was woven together in the depths of the earth, your eyes saw my unformed body. All the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be" (Psalm 139:13-16).

"Sons are a heritage from the LORD, children a reward from him" (Psalm 127:3).

Exodus 21:22-25 relates how Israel was to judge a circumstance relating to the death of the unborn:

"If men who are fighting hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman's husband demands and the court allows. But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, wound for wound, bruise for bruise."

All of the latter deals with unintentional hurt that comes to a pregnant woman; how much more will divine penalty come upon those who intentionally discard the fetus? The Gospel of Luke ascribes personality to the fetus within Elizabeth:

"When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit... As soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy" (1:41, 44).

Mere tissue does not leap for joy; only personhood leaps for joy. The Bible regards the fetus as having personality. In Galatians, Paul speaks of himself as a person while still in his mother's womb, but more a person consecrated by God for a holy mission (compare Jeremiah 1:5 for the same accent):

"But when God, who set me apart from birth, and called me by his grace, was pleased to reveal his Son in me so that I might preach him among the Gentiles..." (Gal. 1: 15-16).

Since the Bible regards the fetus as personality, then the aborting of the fetus is murdering personality.

Some verses from Scripture dealing with murder are then appropriate for study, such as Genesis 9:6: "Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made man." Also, read Exodus 23:7: "Have nothing to do with a false charge, and do not put an innocent or honest person to death, for I will not acquit the guilty." Note I Peter 4:15: "If you suffer, it should not be as a murderer..."

If the Republic returned to the biblical definition of personhood, we would defend every womb child.

John Adams said the following:

"Our Constitution was made only for a religious and moral people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other."

Andrew Jackson said the following:

"The BIBLE is the rock on which our Republic rests."

Daniel Webster:

"If we abide by the principles taught in the BIBLE, our country will go on prospering."

"For all the talk of freedom and self-determination, the abortion movement is at its heart a movement denying rights to a silent segment of humanity and soliciting public sanction, support and subsidy to its own cause" (Donald P. Shoemaker, ABORTION, THE BIBLE AND THE CHRISTIAN, Hayes Publishing Co., 1976, p. iv).

[Graybeard58]

Obama is a muzzie - pass the word. Then when Hillary cleans his clock in the primary, pass the word that Hillary was brhind those ugly rumors that Obama was a muzzie.

[edcoil]

“Barack Obama: not Muslim, not Christian”

Jew?

[Rodm]

Try Heathen

[Joann37]

If Obama says he’s not a Muslim, I believe him. But he’s certainly not Christian, as outlined in the excellent article you’ve posted.

Actually, this is a keeper, as it’s applicable to others (including myself) as well. We cannot claim to be followers of Christ when we deviate from his teaching, and that’s something to remember every day.

[Berlin_Freeper]

He’s a Muslim.

[Vision]

He was raised Muslim and attended a school that practiced a particularly hateful sect of Islam.

Now he belongs to a Black supremacist church!

But of course none of this is of concern to the MSM and Demonrats...

[Tahoe3002]

Hey, folks wake up!

The Bible is a “living document”. Surely we are not expected to follow something that was written centuries ago? This is the 21st century! (SARCASM)

[Piquaboy]

Goat Lover? His name is Baaarack!

[inkling]

If Obama has accepted Christ as his Lord and Savior, he is a Christian. Even if Grant Swank doesn't approve.

He might not be right on the political issues of the day, but God saves because HE is perfect, not because we are.

And if Sen. Obama is not a Christian, I certainly pray that he will become one.

[Graybeard58]

He might not be right on the political issues of the day

Abortion is more than a "political issue".

[inkling]

I became pro-life years after accepting Christ. Does that mean I was only half-saved for those few years?

If God wants me to be perfect before I'm saved, I'll never get to heaven. And neither will anyone else.

[Beckwith]

when he says he's a Christian, he's not.

Why?

He's never been baptized.

The Obama File

[El Cid]

If Obama has accepted Christ as his Lord and Savior, he is a Christian. Even if Grant Swank doesn't approve.

If Mr. Hussein Obama had"accepted" Christ as Lord, he wouldn't be denying HIM with his perverse zeal to defend even the most noxious cases of partial birth infanticide (e.g., fighting Legislation that would have declared a baby, who survived a botched partial birth abortion, as being a human being - made in the image of God).
Mr. Hussein Obama would not have glibly remarked that all roads lead to God...
Having "accepted" Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour he'd have understood that HE (Jesus) is THE Way, the Truth, and the Life - and that there is NO way to the Father but through HIM.

He might not be right on the political issues of the day, but God saves because HE is perfect, not because we are.

The article didn't speak that much about 'political' issues - but rather 'moral' issues. Telling homosexuals that it is 'ok' for them to live a life that will lead them right into hell will win 'attaboys' from the world - but it is hardly an act of love and care that one would expect from a 'Christian'. The truth might hurt -- but it is better to warn someone that they are headed for an eternity of hurt, than to receive the temporal praise of the world by saying all is well, when it is not...

And if Sen. Obama is not a Christian, I certainly pray that he will become one.

Amen.
We are all sinners in desperate need of a Saviour. We all need to be broken and brought to Christ - and come to the understanding that it is HIS will, and Word, that we follow -- not our own imaginations...

[Graybeard58]

I became pro-life years after accepting Christ. Does that mean I was only half-saved for those few years?

I didn't say he wasn't saved. I said abortion was more than a "political issue".

[Graybeard58]

(e.g., fighting Legislation that would have declared a baby, who survived a botched partial birth abortion, as being a human being - made in the image of God).

This needs to be told over and over, until Obama is gone from the political scene. This alone was enough for me to vote for Alan Keyes in Illinois senate election. Obama advocates murder of the unborn and those who somehow survive an attempted murder too.

[Deo volente]

That’s a very revealing photo. I hadn’t seen that before.

I don’t know if he’s a Muslim or a Christian, but his patriotism is certainly in doubt! Very powerful body language.

[TheBattman]

Of course, all of the above could apply equally to Hillary, and pretty much any other Democrat politician out there (and some Repub politicians as well... if you look at their record).

[Deo volente]

I’ve always had a sneaking suspicion about Obama that we may have a Muslim “Manchurian candidate” on our hands.

That photo did not help to allay that suspicion!

[Bibman]

If someone accepts Christ, then dies before they get baptized, are they saved?

Luke 23:42-43

[FRForever]

> If Obama has accepted Christ as his Lord and Savior, he is a Christian ... God saves because HE is perfect, not because we are.

Well said.

[Beckwith]

That’s a pretty big IF.

[phillyfanatic]

Worse according to voters who know stuff. He is a socialist pacifist leftist secular humanist who is an Empty Suit with no real issues-minded agenda. Hil is just the same but she has a name everybody knows and emotions might actually get her elected.

[redpoll]

Better not publish this in Canada. It’s not free speech anymore in the Dominion.

[DMZFrank]

“Obama supports murdering children in women’s wombs”.

Obama supports INFANTACIDE. As a state senator in Illinois, he would not vote for a law which would have protected the born alive victims of botched abortions. A nurse working at Christ(?) hospital in a suburb of Chicago had revealed that such babies were placed into a linen closet to die, without medical care. The law was intended to end such practices and give these human beings necessary medical care. Obama said that he feared that this law would undercut the legal rationale for abortion, and therefore he could not support it.

Thios man has the most callous and brutal abortion policy that I have EVER seen from any major presidential candidate.

[Graybeard58]

This needs to be told over and over, until Obama is gone from the political scene. This alone was enough for me to vote for Alan Keyes in Illinois senate election. Obama advocates murder of the unborn and those who somehow survive an attempted murder too.
16 posted on 01/25/2008 11:01:24 AM CST by Graybeard58

He’s a murderer.

[NoCountryForLiberals]

CINO=Christian In Name Only

[shewhola]

I understand where you are coming from, but if you base your argument strictly on the words of Jesus Christ, there is much more about forgiveness and love, rather than condemning others. He added on to all the laws of Moses. (John 1:17: “For Moses gave us only the Law with its rigid demands and merciful justice, while Jesus Christ brought us loving forgiveness as well.”) You are all basically condemning the Democratic party, but do you honestly think Jesus would have been more on the Republican side if he were alive today? —the rich, big business, money side? Jesus himself said, “It is almost impossible for a rich man to get into the Kingdom of Heaven. I say it again— it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of the needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God!” Jesus forgave adulterers and prostitutes, but not rich people. Barack Obama worked on the south side of Chicago, in the trenches, if you will, to make life better for people who were in hard times or had given up. How many candidates do you know who gave up years of their life to do this? And which commandments are most important? Well, according to Jesus, “love God with all your heart and soul and mind and strength,” and “love others as much as yourself.” No one know what another’s relationship with God is. He works in mysterious ways. Stop being Pharisees and live the words of Christ.

[lnr117]

Uh, salvation through Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven. Being baptized is only an outward testimony showing your old life being dead to sin and your new life being alive in Christ. Baptism has nothing to do with being saved. So if Obama has accepted Jesus Christ as his savior then he shall inherit the kingdom of God. Baptism is not a stipulation for getting into Heaven.

[Beckwith]

Baptism is not a stipulation for getting into Heaven.

Never said it was.

[Daniel...21]

What a true fool you are. Not right on political issues? How about not right on Christian issues. The Lord won’t save you unless you REPENT of you sinful ways. Face it, Obama is NOT a Christian. Says he is, HIS ACTIONS prove, he is not