Skip to comments.Breaking Up Is Hard to Do ("Bush Destroyed the Republican Party" -- Drudge Headline)
Posted on 01/26/2008 5:57:27 AM PST by fightinJAG
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Peggy Noonan is jealous. She used to write speeches for Reagan and has not been employed by W. And her writings are not that logical anymore. Peggy Noonan is a sour grapes Republican.
Country Club Blue Bloods are destroying it (in their effort of marginalizing the conservative base). That is why we are left with RINOs ... and a pretty bleak outlook for the house and governor races this year as well.
The party is in shambles ... in dire need of $$$ and volunteers for 2008 ... the Country Club Blue Blood will show what they are good at ... ensuring the Republicans become a minority party again.
You bring up some legitimately good things, but let’s be honest- those tax cuts were a joke, and Bush never framed them as WAY too small. He never pushed for anything deeper either, nor did he suggest we cut spending- quite the contrary.
The pro Illegal immmigrant pro al queda RINO Peggy Noonan supports McAniac and Huckaphony.
There is enough blame to go around. Certainly Bush did everything possible to ruin the GOP...as did his father but look at what we have in the House and Senate...fill in the blanks!
Absolutely no leadership!
Both Noonan and Limbaugh are correct. Noonan: George W. Bush fractured the party. Limbaugh: The election of McCain or Huckabee will split the conservatives from the Republicans and put an end to the Reagan Revolution once for all.
I remember JFK, got in there and he was CATHOLIC! OH MY!!! I’m not Catholic, and we didn’t turn CATHOLIC. He didn’t preach at us to convert or else! Neither will Mitt.
News for Christians that are really BIGOTS:
Prayer works wonders. We’ll be praying for Mitt to become a Christian. I won’t post lies because he’s a Mormon. But I will pray he becomes a Christian - he’s a good man and has a wonderful family.
ouch! dude that's brutal! haha
It’s really not about Reagan.
It’s ALL ABOUT getting back to CORE REPUBLICAN IDEOLOGY.
For me, he’sbetter than McCain or Rudy.
Much worse than that. It believes it IS right. The leadership believes it can cast off it's base and pick up the difference in the middle. All it has to do is get rid of those awful gun nuts and nasty Christians.
I’m sure he’s a good guy and all, but that doesn’t change the fact that he’s a MASS LIBERAL big government believer who made a fortune off of dealing with Communist China.
yep ... and Bush should get much of the blame ... creating another expensive entitlement program (Medicare Rx) to go along with the other programs that will drain on the economy when the bulk of baby boomers are collecting, trying to push amnesty for illegal aliens, runwaway spending, getting the fed govt. more involved in education, campgain finance reform that has strengthen the power of incumbents and special interest groupos, and not pushing to produce more of our own energy (Bush folded and gave up on that ... just like entitlement reform) ... all to appease democrats ... look what we got ... a govt. that has spent like democrats (even though the republicans could have stopped it/fought it)
Bush turned out to be more Country Club Blue Blood Republican than Conservative Republican. And now our candidates left in 2008 appear to be more RINO than Bush (if we thought possible).
So, Reagan and Calvin Coolidge where it.
I don’t know the figures, but isn’t it true that Mormons rarely convert to other denominations? Mormons are known in particular to gain former Baptists uneducated in the faith.
I wonder in my moments of lucidity, just what the Devil President Bush is up to. It would be interesting to know how much the Federal government has expanded during his term of office. It would also be interesting to know the number of pages which were added to the Federal regulations during his tour of duty.
I recall watching the convention and the buzz was that Reagan's short list had boiled down to Bush I or Rumsfeld. Think how that decision changed history. I can't imagine Rummy ever losing to BJ eight years later.
Stone dead wrong. It is ALL about Reagan. Without Reagan Conservatism, Republicanism is dead and gone.
Congratulations: Yours is the very quintessence of the ad hominem argument.
Oddly, Reagan said that he voted for FDR four times and HST once, and Coolidge is the only one to have defeated FDR in an election (as Harding’s VP candidate).
Cleveland was said to have been more conservative than Arthur or Harrison.
Snort. Hunter endorsed the Huckster.
If you ‘buy in’ to Noonan’s assessment of President Bush, et al, then you must also ‘buy’ her assessment of President Reagan:
THE BATTLE FOR THE MIND OF RONALD REAGAN WAS LIKE THE TRENCH WARFARE OF WORLD WAR I: NEVER HAVE SO MANY FOUGHT SO HARD FOR SUCH BARREN TERRAIN
I suppose GWB should consider himself lucky that Noonan merely accuses him of destroying the Republican Party unlike, of course, the conservative elitists/propagandists who insist that Ronald Reagan was a “conservative” purist, (when he was actually a REPUBLICAN pragmatist) for the express purpose of destroying ALL current Republicans, including President Bush.
Interesting way you have of measuring success. BTW, I have discovered that your fag loving blowhard Rush wannabe has 2 Os in his name. Boo.
I am disappointed in some ways with W but to place the blame on him is to excuse the R’s in congress. The McCain’s, Graham’s...etc. He not only has had to deal with a hostile press...he has to deal with a hostile group within his own party.
Read my lips, Margaret, no new news here. Reagan had conservative heads exploding when he, among other things, raised taxes, increased the deficit and gave amnesty to millions of illegals. He is the standard bearer of conservatives today. It's a little early to be writing an obituary for the Republicans.
Do you not see the essential dichotomy? We we refuse to support the GOOD ideas because of the occasional perceived BAD ideas, WE have destroyed the Republican party.
Yes, and that strategy yields 39-40 percent like GHWB in 1992.
Make that 12 years.....and a second cup of coffee, please......
I know. See tagline.
I’m not up on how, but somehow the party gave Taft the boot for Wilkie.
Alan Keyes is nonexistent this cycle. After getting what, 25 percent, against the popular Obama in liberal IL, no one takes him seriously with his reparations for slavery.
I AGREE WITH PEGGY. While I think G.W. did some good things (appointing Roberts and Alito to the SCOTUS)he has basically been a disaster this second term.
Big Government, big spending, open borders, etc., etc., etc. I just wish there was some way he could do “DAMAGE CONTROL” in his State of the Union Speech Monday night.
Probably won’t happen.
I couldn’t agree more. Ms. Noonan’s own sense of self-importance has clouded her judgement and allowed her to believe she speaks for all conservatives.
The idea that George Bush has singlehandedly “destroyed” the Republican party is nonsense. True, many of us would love to see another Reagan appear today and restore clarity and vision to our party. But to blame Bush for not being Reagan is unfair. Even Reagan the President was not “Reagan the Icon” at the time.
“Rush is right. McCain or Huckabee will drive the Republican party further to the left. McCain is a social liberal and a fiscal liberal. Mike is a humanist that loves to ues socialism to make his utopia come true. The differences between the Demoncrats and Republicans will be hardly worth mentioning.
Im voting for Mitt, the Mormon.”
Ditto. I see Romney as my next best choice.
It was Willkie of IN and NYC. His supporters got into the Philadelphia convention with passes and overwhelmed the galleries. They stunned the weak-kneed delegates who actually nominated him on a pro-FDR foreign policy and minor revisions of the New Deal. He did have quite a bit of the support of younger voters, like Obama today. Dewey and Taft deadlocked each other.
This is true the problem is Media every time some substantive stands up as a front runner for the Republican party they are either ignored or portrayed as a Nazi ! while the Darlings of the media and the media itself is held in high regard as the Saviour's of the land and all it's peoples....
If any of the current candidates had half the balls of GW they might not have so much trouble getting elected. Maybe then if there was a someone who could be a real leader they would find the Republican Party would not be in such a state. The divisions were always there but without a good potential shepherd the sheep are getting a litle nervous.
Don’t attack messenger “Noonan”. Look at her ideas. I am surprised that someone from the WSJ would be this forthcoming.
Yeah, that’s great.
He should be talking about the inherently Marxist idea of taxing income in the first place, the abuses of power that the IRS commonly visit on otherwise free citizens, and the Keynesian monetary and budgetary policies that have led us to economic crisis.
If he did that, we wouldn’t be debating about making the cuts permanent, we would actually have a national dialogue about the morality of our entire economy.
Instead, he allows the line of scrimmage to be positioned way over on the left, and we argue with the statists about minutiae.
I don't follow this. And neither do former agents Ramos and Compean.
Both Bushes have been disasterous for the Republican Party and conservative movement. The two are probably responsible for about 80% of our 15 trillion dollar debt. Bush I was our “kinder, gentler president” and GWB has been our “compassionate conservative.” I, for one, want no more of it.
So, considering the Tip O’Neil, Jim Wright, the media, the ignorant American population that had zero, no, none, nada idea what conservative was, and that people back then got their ‘news’ from ABC/CBS/NBS it was fantastic what Reagan did get done.
There is no excuse for ignorance now, especially within the GOP. I think now in the GOP it is about the money and power, Reagan be damned. There is just too much money in DC, and the political power can make and break any industry. Look at farmers and ethanol. Total taxpayer rape boondoggle.
Speaking of President Reagan, I remember VIVIDLY all the screaming about how he “expanded government and increased spending”...but never heard anyone whining that he single handedly destroyed the Republican party. No, we’re doing it all by ourselves. It’s always easier to blame someone else for our own wrongdoing.
You are so right. This is typical of the left media. Say it long enough and loud enough and people will start believing you.
I used to enjoy looking at Ms. Noonan’s ideas. But I don’t consider her a “messenger.” That would imply that they are not her ideas - that she is merely the mouthpiece for somebody else. I’m no longer a big fan of hers, but I still give her credit for having ideas of her own.
I know a lot of people agree with her, but I don’t and that’s fine. I just resent her presuming to speak for all of us.
Yeah, it killed his wife and her sister, too. That’ll teach ‘em! haha. /s