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MACHETES AND MASSACHUSETTS
self | January 26, 2008 | swampsniper

Posted on 01/26/2008 8:41:55 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER

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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

According to the link in post #8, this change was passed by the MA legislature in 2005. For some unknown reason, the change wasn’t incorporated into the statutes.


41 posted on 01/27/2008 12:48:03 AM PST by Bob
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To: Bob

I don’t see where the link in #8 says that the bill was passed and signed into law. Every bill submitted in any session probably starts with the phrase “be it enacted”.

Here in Virginia the legislative website shows all the bills that are proposed, even if they never make it out of committee. However they do have links that will show the entire legislative process for each bill.


42 posted on 01/27/2008 1:47:25 AM PST by deks
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Dear Lord God, please look down on our country and send us some officials who have the preservation of it as their priority. Our help comes from You Lord. We are failing and flailing and we can’t stop the “bleeding”. We have lost our way. We need You so much. America will cease to exist if we are left to manage her ourselves. Evil has swept into every corner of our lives. Please send us Your loving mercy. We love America, or at least, what she once was. You brought her into being. She is Your’s Lord and there are still those of us who know she can not survive without Your loving hand on her. Absurdity has taken the place of prayerful thought. Change hearts to caring for each other. Take the “do unto others before they do unto you” attitudes and send them to hell. We need a change of heart and we need it yesterday. I’m still in love with America and I know others who are so I know there are more like us out there. We don’t want it to go under. Hear our prayer O Lord. Amen


43 posted on 01/27/2008 1:48:46 AM PST by Picklezz (Congressman HUNTER, many of us were counting on you being our President and saving America.)
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To: deks
I don’t see where the link in #8 says that the bill was passed and signed into law. Every bill submitted in any session probably starts with the phrase “be it enacted”.

You could be right. Time to dig in a different direction. Thanks.

44 posted on 01/27/2008 1:50:06 AM PST by Bob
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

The founding fathers really knew what they were doing when writing the constitution’ If the American people would wake up, we might even be able to hold onto our freedoms.


45 posted on 01/27/2008 1:56:23 AM PST by exnavy ( note to islamists,God means love, not hate.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Here’s the summary of a nutty bill just introduced in Virginia(SB379)...and defeated in committee 15-0.

Concealed weapons; box cutters; penalty. Adds box cutters to the list of weapons that are prohibited from being carried concealed and allows the court to exclude certain weapons from being prohibited if such item was carried for a legitimate occupational, recreational, or personal reason.


46 posted on 01/27/2008 2:22:06 AM PST by deks
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To: BinaryBoy
“I hope this is a hoax.”

No, it’s not. It’s an attempt to crack down on the vile and vicious hispanic gang MS-13, as the machete is its weapon of choice.

47 posted on 01/27/2008 4:35:28 AM PST by ought-six
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To: Bob
The attached link should give you more background on the machete in Massachusetts

machete, culture, gangs, Massachusetts

48 posted on 01/27/2008 6:50:58 AM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (<I>)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
I don’t know the outcome of this bill, the Romney camp doesn’t want to discuss it!

Looks like it never passed. Besides it was in 2005, and introduced by Senator Charles E. Shannon, DemonRat, so probably didn't have a thing to with then governor Romney. It never got to his desk.

49 posted on 01/27/2008 12:05:02 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
For purposes of this section, “machete” means “a heavy knife at least 18 inches in length and having a blade at least 1.5 inches wide at its broadest measurement.

Well...since they are so keen on clearly defining what is, and is not, a machete....perhaps they could spend a few minutes to clearly define what the words "keep and bear arms" and "shall not be infringed" mean.
It really shouldn't take more than a few minutes. Really.

Any individual who requires a machete for the purposes of cutting vegetation shall register the machete with the local police department on an annual basis and, upon payment of an appropriate annual registration fee as determined by the local granting authority, shall be issued a permit authorizing him to possess the machete solely for the purposes of cutting vegetation.

50 posted on 01/27/2008 12:11:05 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Bureaucracy is a parasite that preys on Free Thought and suffocates Free Spirit.)
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To: Bob
According to the link above, the bill was passed by the MA legislature in 2005.

It was introduced in 2005, but the history file doesn't say it passed.

Here's the listed history for Senate 1834:

Petition of Charles E. Shannon, TimothyJ. Toomey, Jr., David P. Linsky and Paul J. Donato for legislation relative to the possession of a machete.

01/26/05S Referred to the committee on Public Safety and Homeland Security
01/26/05 H Houseconcurred
Public Hearing date May 11 am at 10:00 in Room B-2

03/27/06 S Accompanied a study order, see S2447-SJ 1596

And for Senate 2447

03/27/06 S Reported from the committee on Public Safety and Homeland Security 03/27/06 S New draft of s1327, s1349, s1357, s1359, s1363, s1374, s1384 and s1395
03/27/06 S Order reported favorably by committee and referred to the committee on Joint Rules -SJ 1596
03/28/06 S Discharged to the committee on Senate Ethics and Rules -SJ 1606
01/02/07 S No further action taken

51 posted on 01/27/2008 12:12:31 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: RTO
I don’t think Romney was governor when this “law” passed.

If it passed, it would have been 2005 or 2006. Romney was governor from 2002 through 2006.

52 posted on 01/27/2008 12:14:48 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: technomage
t this law never took effect. Why? Do not know yet. Maybe it was vetoed by the Governor???

The legislative history shows it never passed.

53 posted on 01/27/2008 12:17:48 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Darn, I guess I will have to do my killing in Massachusetts with an ax or are they outlawed too? I certainly wouldn’t want to violate the law while murdering someone.


54 posted on 01/27/2008 12:18:01 PM PST by yarddog (`)
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To: El Gato
It was introduced in 2005, but the history file doesn't say it passed.

Thank you very much. The document at the link made it appear that it had been passed but didn't explicitly say so. It seems I need to brush up on my search skills.

55 posted on 01/27/2008 12:46:01 PM PST by Bob
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Did Romney have anything to do with this?

Probably not.

The Speaker of the General Court (State Legislature) runs Massachusetts.

The Hutu mobs were getting out of hand.

Not to mention those hold-out Japanese soldiers in the Berkshires.

56 posted on 01/27/2008 12:51:49 PM PST by x
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To: x

Some sort of crime is always the excuse. Thing is, no matter what is going on, ignoring the Constitution isn’t acceptable.


57 posted on 01/27/2008 1:58:10 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: El Gato
The legislative history shows it never passed.

Thank you!

Is there a web site that lists the Mass legislative history?

58 posted on 01/27/2008 2:30:48 PM PST by technomage (Radical Islam gives me the urge to go to the bathroom and drop a big mohammed!)
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To: ought-six
No, it’s not. It’s an attempt to crack down on the vile and vicious hispanic gang MS-13, as the machete is its weapon of choice.

There are a lot of immigrants in MS-13. I'd prefer if they simply deported the gang members who commit crimes.
59 posted on 01/27/2008 6:57:06 PM PST by ArcadeQuarters
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To: technomage
Is there a web site that lists the Mass legislative history?

Be sure to pick the previous legislative session, for this bill.

60 posted on 01/27/2008 8:00:17 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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