Um. No. Conservatives don't vote for culture of death-supporting candidates. U.S. Army Retired |
Posted on 01/27/2008 1:04:05 PM PST by RDTF
Even with their candidate out of the race, Fred Thompson’s supporters can make a big impact in Florida. They should do so by supporting Rudy Giuliani.
More than any other candidate, Rudy matches Thompson’s conservative credentials in the three most important areas: he offers a conservative economic policy, an explicit promise to nominate only “strict constructionist” judges, and a strong dedication to national security. On the economy, social issues, and defense, a Giuliani presidency will take the nation in a clearly conservative direction—and he can actually beat Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama in November. With a win—or a strong showing—in Florida, Rudy will be positioned to do very well on Super Tuesday a week later, when New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, and California (all strong states for Rudy) all vote. And Thompson supporters can greatly enhance Rudy’s chances in Florida.
Republican presidential hopeful, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, greets supporters as he arrives at a campaign rally at a restaurant in Sarasota, Fla., Saturday, Jan. 26, 2008. (AP Photo/Gerald Herbert) Related Media: VIDEO: Giuliani Wades Into Romney and McCain Spat It may be surprising to think of Giuliani as the candidate who is closest to Thompson, given their disagreement over abortion. But the Supreme Court long ago took this issue out of representative legislatures’ hands—in a plainly unconstitutional ruling. So a candidate’s position on this issue is now dwarfed in importance by his commitment to appointing judges who will abide by the Constitution and thereby return this issues to legislatures. And Rudy, more than John McCain or Mitt Romney, has firmly committed to appointing law-abiding judges. That is why prudent, pro-life conservatives, like Dennis Prager, have endorsed Rudy.
For all of his noble qualities and his commitment to reform, McCain is a maverick whose breaks from conservatives—on campaign finance, illegal immigration, etc.—are almost always in a left-leaning direction. No Thompson supporter could truly feel confident about the judicial nominees McCain would present to his former Senate colleagues. Romney is less of a maverick than McCain, but he is every bit as unpredictable. Without being unfair, one thing that can surely be said about Romney is this: one can rarely quite pin down what he thinks or what he’ll do. Giuliani, meanwhile, is committed to nominating a particular type of judge—the law-abiding rather than the law-making kind—and Rudy is a man true to his word. If he weren’t, he would have changed his position on abortion before the campaign.
On national security, no one can question Rudy’s credentials. No one can question his proven record of executive leadership in arguably the second-toughest executive position in America—a city whose metropolitan-area population is greater than all but three states (New York included). Rudy took on crime, he took on Democrats, and he transformed a crime-ridden metropolis into the safest large city in America. His record of successful executive leadership is something no other candidate can match. George Will called his tenure in New York “the most successful episode of conservative governance in the past 50 years.”
On the economy, there can be no doubt Rudy is the most conservative candidate. In New York, he consistently cut taxes and balanced budgets. Romney raised taxes 8% during the span of his tenure in Massachusetts,[1] imposed a government-mandated healthcare plan, and received a “C” from the small-government-minded Cato Institute. McCain voted against the recent Bush tax cuts, and he seems to have a limited commitment to limited government. Mike Huckabee increased taxes 19% during the span of his tenure in Arkansas, increased spending 65%—more than Bill Clinton did—and received an “F” from Cato.[2]
On the other hand, Rudy’s tax cut would be the largest in American history. His Fair and Simple Tax (FAST) form—similar to Thompson’s proposal—would allow Americans to complete their taxes on one page. He would cut corporate taxes from 35% to 25%, capital gains from 15% to 10%, and allow tax-free private savings accounts for general savings, retirement, education, and access to affordable, portable, private healthcare.
Rudy was recently praised by the Wall Street Journal, which asserted that he and Thompson have proposed the best tax plans and are the best “at explaining how taxes affect the economy.”[3] Steve Forbes writes that, “With Fred Thompson now having dropped out…there can no longer be any question which candidate is offering the best tax plan.”[4] Americans for Tax Reform president Grover Nordquist calls Rudy’s plan “a monumental leap forward for the American taxpayer and the U.S. economy,” and the Club for Growth calls it “a bold and innovative proposal that will…promote economic growth for Americans across the economic spectrum.”[5]
There’s a reason the New York Times, the nation’s liberal paper of record, just eschewed Giuliani and endorsed McCain. The Times could instead have endorsed Romney, but the Times, like everyone else, presumably can’t really tell where Romney stands. So they decided to go with the candidate who sometimes breaks with conservatives, rather than the one who consistently avoids taking positions. (If a candidate is to be characterized by slipperiness, the Times prefers that the candidate be named Clinton.) Thompson’s supporters should migrate to the man the Times wants nothing to do with, the man who ran New York as a conservative, is true to his word, and will clearly lead America in a conservative direction on social, defense, and economic issues: Rudy Giuliani.
Sorry, no thanks.
| Um. No. Conservatives don't vote for culture of death-supporting candidates. U.S. Army Retired |
Wrong-O.
McLame could be stopped in the Sunshine state.
No f'in way. But thanks for the laugh.
Yep. That's what happens when a candidate gets too adept with the weasel words.
Note to Mr. Anderson: Don’t hold your breath while you wait....
And “blah, blah” as this writer makes his pitch for what he mistakenly thinks are confused conservative voters who will swim toward a leaky lifeboat. Mark me down as “No Sale”.
This former FredHead agrees. No thanks, at this time.
If enough people above Rudy on the list are knocked out, I will become a proud Rudy supporter as of that date. But not yet. Not by a long shot.
I just voted for Thompson via absentee. I know, I know, but it made me feel better. As far as switching to Rudy, If I ever become a pro-war flaming liberal, I’ll think about it.
I wish you had warned me to don high waders before I ventured into this steaming load of crap.
I don’t see how a conservative could ever vote for Giuliani.
“Culture of life:
ABC clip:
George Will: “Do you think Roe v Wade was good constitutional law?”
Rudy Giuliani: “Yes I believe, I believe it is.”
Cnn Clip:
Announcer: “Giuliani was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial birth abortions, something Bush strongly supports.”
Rudy Giuliani : “No, I have not supported that, and I don’t see my position on that changing.”
Immigration
CNN clip:
Announcer: “Back in 1996, mayor Giuliani went to federal court to challenge new federal laws requiring the city to inform the federal government about illegal immigrants.”
Rudy Giuliani: “There isn’t a mayor or a public official in this country that’s more strongly pro immigrant than I am. Including disagreeing with President Clinton when he signed an anti-immigration legislation about two or three years ago.”
Gun control:
CNN clip
Rudy Giuliani: “I’m in favor of gun control”
Meet The Press:
Tim Russert: “How about registration of all handguns?”
Rudy Giuliani: “You know I’m in favor of that. I’ve been on your show many times.”
Gay Rights:
CNN Clip:
Announcer: “As mayor he supported civil unions, and extending health and other benefits to gay couples.”
ABC Clip: “I supported domestic partnership legislation and signed it”
Meet The Press:
Tim Russert: “So should gay people be openly allowed to serve?”
“I think people should be judged on the merits. And there should not be a specific focus on someone’s sexual orientation.”
First Amendment:
ABC Clip
Cokie Roberts: “Would you vote in the senate in favor of Mccain / Feingold?”
Rudy Giuliani: “Yes, I’m a big supporter of Mccain / Feingold. I have been for a long time.”
Party Loyalty:
ABC Clip:
Rudy Giuliani: “Frankly George, I’d like to run on all the lines. I’d like to run on the liberal line, the conservative line, I’d like to run on the democratic line if I could figure out how to do it.”
Conservative Values:
Meet The Press:
Tim Russert: “Whether it’s gays in the military, gun control, campaign finance, late term abortion - you and Hillary Clinton are in sync on those issues.”
Rudy Giuliani: “Well then maybe the other side should stop the ‘He’s part of the vast right wing conspiracy’.”
ABC clip:
George Will: “Do you think Roe v Wade was good constitutional law?”
Rudy Giuliani: “Yes I believe, I believe it is.”
First Amendment:
ABC Clip
Cokie Roberts: “Would you vote in the senate in favor of Mccain / Feingold?”
Rudy Giuliani: “Yes, I’m a big supporter of Mccain / Feingold. I have been for a long time.”
See Rudy for yourself on YouTube - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM
I’m for Romney, but I could live with Rudy. The fact that Ted Olsen will be helping him to pick judges convinces me he’ll pick the right guys - all a president can do on the abortion issue.
Hank
All the Democrats would need to do would be to run that photo of Rudy in drag over and over, and Rudy would be toast. They’d turn him into a laughing-stock, and ridicule is the most difficult attack to counter.
I actually somewhat agree with the author....the most important issues to me are fiscal policy and security...and I would trust Rudy much more than the others in these areas just based on his past actions. If you accept him at his word about appointing strict constructionist judges (and we have to accept each of these candidates at their word about MULTIPLE issues), then despite his opinions about things like abortion, it really doesn’t matter.
I’m sorry, but after Thompson dropped I visited each candidates websites and have done extensive research...and I simply cannot find a horse to ride comfortably in this field. I abhor McCain and Huckster, and Romney leaves me unimpressed.
I agree
Thompson Supporters Should Back Giuliani”
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Hah, hah, hee, hee, hah, hee.....not a chance.
LOL
Romney has the backing of all Fred’s lawyers/judges. Nice try.
at least you know where he stands vs still being for all those liberal things but trying to pretend he’s not.
Yes, I’m definitely supporting Rudy Giuliani...
Oh HELL no.
Um sure.....I’ll get right on it.
Not this one.
Not even!!!
“at least you know where he stands vs still being for all those liberal things but trying to pretend he’s not.”
Thanks. I hope everyone does their research BEFORE they vote in the primaries. Which reminds me, I’m going to write an editor’s letter exposing Giuliani’s and McCain’s liberalism.
Rudy’s strategy of “sitting it out until Florida” is, I think, the stupidest campaign strategy I have ever seen. He frittered away all of that free advertising he was getting on FOX News & the lead that he formerly held in the polls.
And the difference between someone who tells what he believes and someone who flip-flops to say what he thinks you want to hear is??????? Neither RINO deserves my vote. I will write in Fred,
Did anyone take time to actually read the article? or just give knee-jerk responses?
There’s a reason the New York Times, the nation’s liberal paper of record, just eschewed Giuliani and endorsed McCain. The Times could instead have endorsed Romney, but the Times, like everyone else, presumably can’t really tell where Romney stands. So they decided to go with the candidate who sometimes breaks with conservatives, rather than the one who consistently avoids taking positions. (If a candidate is to be characterized by slipperiness, the Times prefers that the candidate be named Clinton.) Thompson’s supporters should migrate to the man the Times wants nothing to do with, the man who ran New York as a conservative, is true to his word, and will clearly lead America in a conservative direction on social, defense, and economic issues: Rudy Giuliani.
ROFLOL... WHAT free advertising on Fox? They have bent over backwards for candidates like Fred, Romney and McCain and hardly even mention, much less have Rudy on. Rudy has been on Fox News Sunday exactly one time.... how many times was Fred on? Huckabee? McCain? Romney? Count em...
I wouldn’t even vote for Ghouliani if you paid me. He makes my skin crawl
Admittedly, since Rudy’s numbers have plummeted like a rock - FOX hasn’t shilled for him like they were at the beginning - but you have got to be kidding me - until then, you couldn’t watch FOX without hearing them talk about Rudy.
I think even they are embarassed by how badly he’s doing now.
Please fix the headline — the actual headline does not have “Townhall:” in it. The inclusion of “Townhall” falsely suggests this is an official town hall endorsement of Giuliani, when it is just the opinion of a writer on the townhall blog.
Thanks.
As a Thompson supporter, I find this post to be extremely offensive.
This Jeffrey Anderson guy is on crack.
“And the difference between someone who tells what he believes and someone who flip-flops to say what he thinks you want to hear is??????? Neither RINO deserves my vote.”
That’s why I’m leaning toward pro-life, pro-2nd amendment, and seems to get the Red China threats Huckabee;
but at least if a candidate (Romney) SAYS he has turned conservative on many issues, he will have to deliver, if he wants to be reelected.
I’m very upset with the choices we have, but my aim is to vote for the candidate who will do the LEAST amount of damage to our country, until hopefully someone better comes along.
I’m still deciding between Huckabee and Romney, and will continue to research until it’s my turn to vote.
Sorry Rudy!
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
If need be, I’ll vote for Rudy in the general election - but I don’t think he’ll be on the ballot.
I doubt that Democrats are going to care about context when composing their ads.
An article that ably highlights Rudy’s good points. He has the tax-cut portion of fiscal conservatism right, but completely misses the point on limited government. He would likely do a decent job prosecuting the war in Iraq.
The more I read of what he’s put out regarding the role of government, the more I realize he has no clear concept of ‘constructionist’ philosophy. How would he appoint constructionists when he doesn’t know what they are?
Even when he tries to mouth federalism, it catches in his craw, and he spits it back out. His few attempts at putting forth any type of socially conservative thought come out as godless fascism (All hail the State!).
How many Americans are so far gone down this path that they would vote for Mussolini himself were he resurrected for 2008?
Fred’s core support came from limited-government constitutional conservatives. Can’t see many walking in to Rudy’s tent for a sleep over.
There, I fixed it.
Does this mean we should recall the militia? D'OH!
No to Rudy.
But you gotta pick one. I'm sorry about that. I really am. But that's the way it is. I can't fault you for any one you choose, because they are all compromises, and you might compromise on different things.
Except Ron Paul. I could blame you if you picked Ron Paul.
sorry to offend you by posting it. Then why did you click on it?
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