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To: NormsRevenge
Seems the article has lots of sympathy for communists. On the other hand, I see no mention of the Muslims killing several hundred thousand Roman Catholics. It just calls them East Timorese. The AP never told us that when the Muslims were killing the Catholics. And, they don’t tell us now.
6 posted on 01/27/2008 3:21:31 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (<I>)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

ET? AP does not mention it because the US didn’t care. Duh.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB62/#24

On 4 or 5 December, while still in Beijing, Kissinger received a cable from the State Department suggesting that the Indonesians had “plans” to invade East Timor.(25) Thus, Ford or Kissinger could not have been too surprised when, in the middle of a discussion of guerrilla movements in Thailand and Malaysia, Suharto suddenly brought up East Timor. Suharto noted that while Indonesia “has no territorial ambitions,” Fretilin has not cooperated with negotiations and has “declared its independence unilaterally.” The current situation, he said, “will prolong the suffering of the refugees and increase instability in the area.” Suharto then assured the Americans that “the four other parties” favor integration, with the apparent implication that a mere majority among the “parties” to the conflict—absent a popular referendum—alone constituted an act of self-determination. “We want your understanding,” Suharto continued, “if we deem it necessary to take rapid or drastic action.”

Ford and Kissinger took great pains to assure Suharto that they would not oppose the invasion. Ford was unambiguous: “We will understand and will not press you on the issue. We understand the problem and the intentions you have.” Kissinger did indeed stress that “the use of US-made arms could create problems,” but then added that, “It depends on how we construe it; whether it is in self defense or is a foreign operation.” Thus, Kissinger’s concern was not about whether U.S. arms would be used offensively—and hence illegally—but whether the act would actually be interpreted as such—a process he clearly intended to manipulate.(26) In any case, Kissinger added: “It is important that whatever you do succeeds quickly.”

Indeed, timing and damage control were very important to the Americans, as Kissinger told Suharto: “We would be able to influence the reaction in America if whatever happens happens after we return. . . If you have made plans, we will do our best to keep everyone quiet until the President returns home.” Kissinger also asked Suharto if he anticipated a “long guerilla war,” apparently aware that a quick military success would be easier to spin than a long campaign. Suharto acknowledged that there “will probably be a small guerilla war” but he was cagey enough not to predict its duration. Nevertheless, his military colleagues were optimistic; as one of the architects of Indonesian policy, General Ali Murtopo explained to a U.S. scholar some months before the invasion, “the whole business will be settled in three weeks.”(27)


10 posted on 01/27/2008 3:31:51 PM PST by BGHater ('A Nation's best defense is an educated citizenry'-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

“It just calls them East Timorese. The AP never told us that when the Muslims were killing the Catholics. And, they don’t tell us now.”

Sorry I don’t buy that. Everyone knows that Islam is the Religion of Peace.

/sarc


11 posted on 01/27/2008 3:33:55 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

It is probably pretty accurate but from the viewpoint of the Communists-as-victims. It went down the way things go down in Asia. Methods and outlook have not changed much since Attila. The Human Wave attack in Korea were the Huns or the Mongols with rifles.


17 posted on 01/27/2008 3:52:18 PM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than to have to fight them OVER HERE!)
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