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Navy resumes sonar training off SD coast as legal battle goes on
AP via Daily Comet ^ | 1/27/8

Posted on 01/27/2008 7:32:41 PM PST by SmithL

SAN DIEGO The Navy has resumed sonar training off the coast of Southern California despite the continuing legal battle over how the exercises affect whales and other marine mammals.

The training by the carrier strike group of the USS Abraham Lincoln is part of a broader exercise to prepare the group for deployment, the Navy said in a news release.

During the exercises, which began Wednesday and were scheduled to last through February 1, sailors train in anti-submarine warfare, ocean security operations and other areas.

The anti-submarine warfare exercises use mid-frequency active sonar that environmentalists say hurts whales and other marine life.

Earlier this month, a federal judge temporarily lifted certain measures designed to lessen the impact of sonar on whales, a day after President Bush exempted the Navy from an environmental law in an effort to allow the service to continue anti-submarine warfare exercises.

In a memorandum the president said the exercised were "in the paramount interest of the United States" and its national security.

"We are conducting this operation within all the regulations," said Commander Dora Lockwood, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Third Fleet in San Diego.

The Natural Resources Defense Council had sued to force the Navy to lessen the harm of its sonar exercises. In November, a federal appeals court said the sonar problem needed to be fixed.

Phone and e-mail messages left with a spokesman for the NRDC were not immediately returned Sunday.

Critics contend sonar has harmful effects on whales and other marine mammals, possibly by damaging their hearing. The council's lawsuit alleges the Navy's sonar causes whales and other mammals to beach themselves.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycomet.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: commanderinchief; dolphins; navair; sonar

1 posted on 01/27/2008 7:32:45 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Well, with dolphins murdering other dolphins...


2 posted on 01/27/2008 7:34:45 PM PST by CaptRon (Pedicaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: SmithL

This is terrible. United States Navy sonar causes dolphins to murder their young!


3 posted on 01/27/2008 7:35:24 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (It takes a father to raise a child.)
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To: SmithL

If the Navy can stop just one vicious dolphin from killing it’s worth it.


4 posted on 01/27/2008 7:36:00 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: SmithL

Female and minority dolphins hardest hit.


5 posted on 01/27/2008 7:38:46 PM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: Doohickey; judicial meanz; submarinerswife; PogySailor; chasio649; gobucks; Bottom_Gun; Dog Gone; ..
Active Ping ) ) ) ) ) )
6 posted on 01/27/2008 7:39:08 PM PST by SmithL (My tagline dropped out)
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To: All

Thank you Navy!
Carry on.


7 posted on 01/27/2008 7:42:25 PM PST by Cindy
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To: magslinger

ASW ping.


8 posted on 01/27/2008 7:42:51 PM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Checkmate Cruiser")
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To: SmithL

Intercourse the whales.


9 posted on 01/27/2008 7:43:04 PM PST by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: SmithL

Not a boomer issue. They’re only a threat to the occasional Giant Squid.


10 posted on 01/27/2008 7:44:13 PM PST by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: SmithL

It seems to me that the US could maximize our enemy submarine detection, putting our extremely sensitive listening equipment to good use, by sending out perhaps torpedo sized drones that when at a predetermined location would send out *very quiet* active sonar pings.

The idea is that the enemy might not even detect that they are being actively pinged, but our extremely sensitive listening equipment would notice. The pings might even be disguised to sound like naturally occurring noises.

Just a few such devices might cover a vast underwater area.


11 posted on 01/27/2008 8:16:01 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: SmithL

With this training going on right now off San Diego is also a huge number of NATO countries deployed here involved.


12 posted on 01/27/2008 8:24:54 PM PST by SoCalPol (Lets Have A Broker Convention)
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To: SmithL

Hey Pointers, have your garage door openers suddenly stopped working?


14 posted on 01/27/2008 9:26:14 PM PST by Defiant (I've been holding my nose so long, I've forgotten what a conservative smells like.)
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To: SmithL

The study CONTENDS that POSSIBLE harmful effects are caused by the sonar.

The 2 words ladies and gentlemen...

SONAR ON! Unless you’ve got definitive proof of the harmful effects, shut the hell up.

Dolphins are already PROVEN to kill each other, and lesser rivals with aggression that makes sharks look gay.


15 posted on 01/27/2008 11:54:09 PM PST by max americana
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To: SmithL

Careful...you’ll get sued for doing that!


16 posted on 01/28/2008 12:39:10 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: SmithL
Of course we should stop Sonar in Kalifornia Waters, what are a few more Communist Submarines there anyway?

/Sarcasm Off

17 posted on 01/28/2008 4:01:59 AM PST by sr4402
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To: SmithL

Oh, San Diego and not South Dakota. Okay.


18 posted on 01/28/2008 4:08:41 AM PST by decimon
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To: Vroomfondel; SC Swamp Fox; Fred Hayek; NY Attitude; P3_Acoustic; Bean Counter; investigateworld; ...
SONOBUOY PING!

Click on pic for past Navair pings.

Post or FReepmail me if you wish to be enlisted in or discharged from the Navair Pinglist.
This is a medium to low volume pinglist.

19 posted on 01/28/2008 4:46:07 AM PST by magslinger (cranky right-winger)
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To: Vanders9

Again?


20 posted on 01/28/2008 6:04:31 AM PST by SmithL (My tagline dropped out)
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To: sr4402

Of course we should stop Sonar in Kalifornia Waters, what are a few more Communist Submarines there anyway
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Uh did anyone tell San Diego what happened to Roosevelt Roads when the “idiots” told the Navy they couldn’t use the range in PR anymore?
Maybe time for a ‘dungaree liberty’ or better yet a $2.00 bill payday to let the people know whose butter is on their bread.


21 posted on 01/28/2008 6:21:58 AM PST by xrmusn
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To: SmithL

Well if the national dolphin protection fascist communist evergreen forever group has their way, it will be one lawsuit per active ping!


22 posted on 01/28/2008 8:04:42 AM PST by Vanders9
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