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Would Your Beliefs Brand You A ‘Homegrown’ Terrorist?
The Constitution Party ^ | 11/08/2007 | The Constitution Party

Posted on 01/28/2008 7:42:03 AM PST by KDD

93% Of Congress Passes Bill That Targets Americans Critical Of Government Showing Both “Big Box” Parties Have Same Agenda...More Control, Less Freedom

Lancaster, PA:

Congress passed a bill which would make certain political ideologies suspect, under the guise of preventing “homegrown terrorism”.

The Constitution Party, the largest and fastest-growing third party in the country,(Ballot-Access News) calls on liberty-minded Americans across the political spectrum to take issue with HR 1955, a bill which allows the government to call virtually any crime and any thought “radical” and consider it “terrorism”.

"The provisions of this bill should be causing the highest degree of alarm in our country. HR 1955 is, to date, one of the most damning to our constitutional rights. If this gets by the Senate, our freedom of expression will be obliterated”, warned Constitution Party National Committee Chairman Jim Clymer.

H.R. 1955, titled the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 allows the government to target Americans and actually calls “thought” crimes “homegrown terrorism”.

Part of the bill (Section 899A) employs extremely vague terminology (“violent radicalization”) to describe the promoting of any belief system that the government considers “extremist”.

The Constitution Party suggests that since the language in H.R. 1955 is so vague, the government can consider anything at odds with its agenda to be “radical” or “extremist”.

“Would those who advocated for a different governmental policy by calling into a radio talk show or setting up a website critical of government be considered criminals under H.R. 1955? Absolutely; the wording of the bill says it all”, Clymer noted, calling attention to the text of HR 1955 which says:

“The term `violent radicalization’ means the process of adopting or promoting an extremist belief system for the purpose of facilitating ideologically based violence to advance political, religious, or social change.

Would protests, marches, demonstrations, websites, and internet radio content calling for “political” or “social change” constitute a crime under the provisions of H.R. 1955?

H.R. 1955 says it is a crime to “intimidate or coerce the United States government, the civilian population of the United States, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives”.

The Constitution Party cautions Americans not to allow their government to limit political dissent under the guise of curbing “terrorism”.

“Since this bill includes caveats about ‘internet streaming’, it’s apparent the motive is to limit discussion amongst those who use the new medium to make their voices heard…typically those most critical of the parties now running our country”, noted Clymer.

The Constitution Party points to the overwhelming bi-partisan approval of this bill with 93% of Congress voting in favor of its passage as proof both major parties have broken their oath of office to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States. “H.R. 1955 is yet another blatant indication that both ‘Big Box’ parties have set us up and sold us out, once again”,


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: homegrown; terrorist; thoughtcrime
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HR 1955
1 posted on 01/28/2008 7:42:04 AM PST by KDD
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To: KDD

they should be able to put half of congress away with that bill.


2 posted on 01/28/2008 7:44:29 AM PST by absolootezer0 (white male christian hetero married gun toting SUV driving motorcycle riding conservative smoker)
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To: KDD

A terrific opportunity for President Hillary (or, frankly, McCain) to scuttle/outlaw talk radio.


3 posted on 01/28/2008 7:48:57 AM PST by willgolfforfood
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To: KDD
“The term `violent radicalization’ means the process of adopting or promoting an extremist belief system for the purpose of facilitating ideologically based violence to advance political, religious, or social change.

Ok. We've got the definition.

Would protests, marches, demonstrations, websites, and internet radio content calling for “political” or “social change” constitute a crime under the provisions of H.R. 1955?

If they called for violence, yes. What's the problem here?

4 posted on 01/28/2008 7:49:09 AM PST by Shryke
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To: KDD

I think the qualifying word “violence” pretty much constrains this law. If you want to agitate in any way, you can as long as you don’t call for violence.

Although, I occassionally call for violence against foreign regimes. Wonder if that qualifies?


5 posted on 01/28/2008 7:50:23 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Amnesty! Taxes! Censorship! Jihadi Rights! Gay Marriage! NY Times Endorsed! McCain!)
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To: KDD

Borders are wide open. Government is not serious about anything but giving itself more power. Time to say no to any new “anti-terror” measures that allow the government to declare people who steal copper to be “terrorists.” Seriously, it happened in the city next to me. Dude stole copper wire and they used the “patriot” act to nail him. Unreal.


6 posted on 01/28/2008 7:51:40 AM PST by mysterio
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To: willgolfforfood

>>>A terrific opportunity for President Hillary (or, frankly, McCain) to scuttle/outlaw talk radio.

That opportunity already exists. Hillary could just label Rush, Hannity, et.al. enemy combatants and hold them in a SC brig for a couple of years.


7 posted on 01/28/2008 7:54:19 AM PST by NC28203
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To: KDD
FEMA, the famous savior of New Orleans, is already "teaching" police that Founding Fathers were terrorists (class video).




8 posted on 01/28/2008 7:54:44 AM PST by nightlight7
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To: KDD

This is nothing new. Time to move on. Nothing to see here.

Years ago, Bill Clinton and Bob Dole joined hands, in order to protect the killing of babies. They destroyed the Rescue Movement by making simple trespass into a federal felony.


9 posted on 01/28/2008 7:59:32 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Uncle Miltie; Shryke
So, you're going to take away the actual reason for the 2nd Amendment to be put in the Bill of Rights?
10 posted on 01/28/2008 8:06:56 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: KDD; All
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=110_cong_bills&docid=f:h1955rh.txt.pdf

The bill does not make anything illegal- it calls for commissions and a “university based Center of Excellence” with staffing, travel, and so forth paid for by the government. The study groups may make suggestions on how to quell the dissemination of "radical information" but as I skimmed the bill, I did not see any new laws coming directly from it.

11 posted on 01/28/2008 8:10:22 AM PST by DBrow
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To: KDD

Hubby and I rarely discuss our political beliefs in public.

If written down, they would read like a right-wing militia manifesto.


12 posted on 01/28/2008 8:12:06 AM PST by Califreak (Hangin' with Hunter-under the bus)
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To: KDD

We are all terrorists now.

It’s just a matter of time before they get around to us individually.

Wonder how the camps are coming along.


13 posted on 01/28/2008 8:16:43 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (And close the damned borders!)
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To: KDD
When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bonds which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
14 posted on 01/28/2008 8:18:11 AM PST by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

yep.


15 posted on 01/28/2008 8:21:26 AM PST by sauropod (Fred Reed: "Without men, civilization would last until the oil needed changing.")
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To: nightlight7
nightlight, do you have a link to the original FBI document? Everything I see online links to this graphic at welfarestate.com or some similar site.

Naturally the thing is not found at fbi’s site at all, so I’m wondering where it came from originally.

16 posted on 01/28/2008 8:23:46 AM PST by DBrow
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To: KDD

if people with “radical beliefs” are labeled “terrorists”, then can the Feds treat them to a vacation at Gitmo with a complimentary waterboarding?


17 posted on 01/28/2008 8:25:53 AM PST by ChurtleDawg (kill em all)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
It’s just a matter of time before they get around to us individually.

It wont be individually, they'll come for us by the thousands, just like Stalin.

18 posted on 01/28/2008 8:27:56 AM PST by SwankyC
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To: KDD

Who is more likely to be violent here:

http://www.zombietime.com/walk_for_life/


19 posted on 01/28/2008 8:29:10 AM PST by JZelle
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To: SwankyC

That will be much more fun. For us and them.


20 posted on 01/28/2008 8:37:53 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (And close the damned borders!)
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