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History Shows Joe McCarthy's Reputation is Undeserved
Town Hall ^ | 1-28-08 | Phyllis Schafly

Posted on 01/28/2008 11:50:07 AM PST by smoothsailing

History Shows Joe McCarthy's Reputation is Undeserved

By Phyllis Schlafly

Monday, January 28, 2008

Ronald Reagan was dismissed by the intelligentsia as just an actor who read speeches written by others until Kiron K. Skinner discovered a box of Reagan's original radio scripts written in his own hand on ruled yellow paper from 1975 to 1979.

Since he had no staff to research and write for him in those years, the scripts prove that Reagan was a one-man think tank, well versed in political philosophy and history, fully capable of writing his own speeches.

Skinner is the W. Glenn Campbell Research Fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University and an associate professor of history and political science at Carnegie Mellon University. In December 2005, he was appointed to the National Security Education Board by President George W. Bush.

Skinner's discovery, and the subsequent publication of many of Reagan's more than 1,000 handwritten radio commentaries, changed the way history now respects Reagan.

M. Stanton Evans, journalism professor and board member of the American Conservative Union, has performed a similar transformation for the most reviled American in modern U.S. history, Sen. Joseph McCarthy.

Evans' 663-page work, "Blacklisted by History: The Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy and His Fight Against America's Enemies" (Crown Forum, $29.95), is the result of six years of reading primary sources. Evans proves that almost everything about McCarthy in current history books is a lie and will have to be revised.

It's an interesting sidelight that one of Reagan's old radio commentaries referred to Evans as "a very fine journalist." He is, indeed, but this book shows that he also is a Sherlock Holmes-type detective who chased every clue to find the truth and to write accurate history in elegant prose.

Evans' vindication of McCarthy was made possible by recently released files, such as the Venona papers (the secret messages between Moscow and its U.S. agents decrypted by our government and released in 1995), data from Soviet archives, and executive-session transcripts of Senate committees that were finally opened after a 50-year ban. Evans' book is copiously documented and reproduces some critical pages from never-before-released files.

In the early 1950s, Joe McCarthy was one of the most popular men in America. Average U.S. citizens recognized him as Horatio at the Bridge battling against our nation's sworn enemies, the Soviet Communists.

McCarthy understood, long before Reagan, that the Soviet Union was an evil empire, one of whose strategies was to infiltrate agents into our government in order to guide our policy to favor Communist goals. In fact, our government was much more infested with Soviet agents than McCarthy imagined.

It's now well known that Communist agents imbedded in high-ranking positions included White House confidant Lauchlin Currie, State Department official Alger Hiss and Treasury Department official Harry Dexter White. Evans quotes FBI files identifying atom bomb scientist J. Robert Oppenheimer as a secret Communist as early as 1942.

Taking on the anti-communist mission locked McCarthy in mortal combat against powerful forces: two U.S. presidents, the vast federal bureaucracy, malicious adversaries in Congress, left-wing lobby groups and the left-wing media who made him their daily target.

McCarthy was concerned only with Communist security risks who influenced U.S. policies. He never targeted Communists in Hollywood or academia.

One of McCarthy's early investigations exposed the gang of Communist agents embedded in our government whose mission it was to change U.S. policy to abandon our wartime ally Chiang Kai-shek and turn China over to the Communists. Owen Lattimore was the point man for articulating the Communist line, and the magazine Amerasia was the communications outlet for an interlocking network of soviet agents.

Evans describes how McCarthy deserves the credit for exposing the Amerasia scandal. Evans publishes for the first time McCarthy's lists of security risks employed by the State Department, proving that his charges were amply supported by FBI files.

Recent unrelated political controversies have shown that the cover-up is often worse than the crime, and the cover-up was McCarthy's prime target. He fought the federal bureaucrats who tolerated and even encouraged the widespread infiltration of our government by Communists whose first loyalty was to Russia.

The administration of President Harry S. Truman and the Democrats in Congress engaged in a massive cover-up, circling the wagons with their media friends. Their game plan was to deny the problem, evade political responsibility for tolerating security risks in government, and kill the messenger.

Evans' book proves that there was not a single innocent victim of McCarthy's investigations. The Senate committee transcripts prove that he was patient with witnesses, and never allowed anyone to be named a Communist or subversive unless he was given the chance to respond directly.

Joe McCarthy himself is probably the most investigated man in U.S. history, far more investigated than the Communist agents. Much of his energy had to be spent in defending himself against vindictive investigations initiated by the Democrats.

McCarthy's career came to an end after he was censured by the Senate, but 45 out of the 46 charges had to be dismissed as baseless. He was censured only for failing to pay proper deference to the committees that were maliciously bent on destroying him.

Everyone who henceforth writes about McCarthy will have to check his facts with Evans' documented discoveries.

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Phyllis Schlafly is a national leader of the pro-family movement, a nationally syndicated columnist and author of Feminist Fantasies.


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1 posted on 01/28/2008 11:50:08 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

So is the DNC-led media’s slur of the Swift Boat Veterans’ reputation.

The label “Swiftboating” miscasts what they said and who’s been wronged.


2 posted on 01/28/2008 11:53:23 AM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: smoothsailing; backhoe; penowa; Smokin' Joe

Backhoe’s reference list with lots of links.
Thanks backhoe.

“Tailgunner Joe—Where Have You Gone, Joe McCarthy?”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/935830/posts


3 posted on 01/28/2008 11:55:34 AM PST by LucyT
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To: smoothsailing

“On December 2, 1954, the Senate voted to “condemn” Senator Joseph McCarthy on both counts by a vote of 67 to 22. The Democrats present unanimously favored condemnation and the Republicans were split evenly.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_McCarthy


4 posted on 01/28/2008 11:57:44 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: smoothsailing
Ping to read later.

The Internet and cable TV have broken the Lefts grip on the distribution and content of information, and how the scream in their impotence.

5 posted on 01/28/2008 11:59:30 AM PST by Rumplemeyer
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To: smoothsailing; Tailgunner Joe

Anti-communist bump


6 posted on 01/28/2008 11:59:42 AM PST by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: smoothsailing
The left has is too far invested in slandering McCarthy, they can no longer afford to be honest about it.

It is now an immutable doctrine, and the truth be damned.

7 posted on 01/28/2008 11:59:45 AM PST by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: weegee
Exactly. The left in this country sees as their responsibility and theirs alone to write American "history" and report the daily "news". And if we are as uppity as to disagree, they launch the smear machine in our direction.
8 posted on 01/28/2008 12:00:02 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: AndyTheBear
The left has is too...
9 posted on 01/28/2008 12:00:32 PM PST by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: smoothsailing

Evans’ book is a good read. The Dems of today would vilify McCarthy the same as they did back then.


10 posted on 01/28/2008 12:00:43 PM PST by Loyal Buckeye
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To: smoothsailing

To the Democrats, McCarthy is hated because HE BROUGHT WHAT THEY WERE DOING TO THE ATTENTION OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC! Nothing more.

Should Communists be blacklisted? Why not? The film industry had the right not to hire people.

But Hollywood and the Libs want the right to do whatever they want, no matter how destructive.

Of course, wait for the Liberal McCarthy (Hillary Clinton) who will work through Media Matters to blacklist Rush and other conservative talk show hosts. Conservative actors and writers are effectively blacklisted already in Hollywood.


11 posted on 01/28/2008 12:01:21 PM PST by whitedog57
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To: smoothsailing

bump


12 posted on 01/28/2008 12:01:42 PM PST by Greg F (Romney supported the right of homosexuals to be Scout Masters in 1994.)
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To: smoothsailing
Evans' book on McCarthy, Blacklisted by History, is a must-read! It's absolutely infuriating how we've been lied to for over fifty years, and the mysterious "disappearances" of much of the historical evidence (described by Evans in his foreword) is equally infuriating.

For fifty years we've been told that Joseph Raymond McCarthy is the arch-fiend of all American political history--a greater villain than any and all traitors, Communists, racists, anti-Semites, segregationists, and moral monsters of any and all kinds. That the liberal media have chosen this man as their apotheosis of all evil should tell you exactly what the real situation is--ie, the exact opposite of what we've been told!

13 posted on 01/28/2008 12:03:43 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vayiqach sefer haberit vayiqra' be'ozney ha`am; vay'omru, Kol 'asher-dibber HaShem na`aseh venishma!)
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To: whitedog57
Correction: McCarthy never investigated Hollywood and had absolutely nothing to do with the "Hollywood blacklist."
14 posted on 01/28/2008 12:05:13 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vayiqach sefer haberit vayiqra' be'ozney ha`am; vay'omru, Kol 'asher-dibber HaShem na`aseh venishma!)
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To: smoothsailing
Mrs. Plutarch got me this book for Christmas. I am two-thirds through it.

The book is thoroughly researched, well-written and explosive. I read it like how Cortez saw the Pacific, with a wild surmise. It is must reading.

http://www.booksamillion.com/bam/covers/1/40/008/105/140008105X.jpg

15 posted on 01/28/2008 12:08:25 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: smoothsailing

The only reputation Joe M. has is bad with Liberals, Commies, Socialists and leftists. Oh, yeah, most Teachers in HS and College and any loudmouth that wants to call you a name calls it “McCarthyism” because they think it sounds bad.

He nuked the commies, and we ought to continue to keep them from invading our schools.


16 posted on 01/28/2008 12:12:13 PM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/Etc --Fred Thompson for Prez.)
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To: AndyTheBear
No longer? NO LONGER???

When the hell was the first time they were honest?

Sheesharootie!

18 posted on 01/28/2008 12:18:03 PM PST by SAJ
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To: smoothsailing

Here it is 2008 and I learn the truth of this in the 1980’s but no wanted to know are converse on this topic unless Joe was being undremind!


19 posted on 01/28/2008 12:19:21 PM PST by restornu
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To: Zionist Conspirator

If not, it is a widely held misconception. I have to plead ignorance myself as I did not know that. Thanks for setting me straight I will definitely have to read Evans’ book.


20 posted on 01/28/2008 12:20:52 PM PST by WildcatClan (The epitome of irony is that few entities exist, less common, than common-sense.)
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To: smoothsailing

Joe just exposed those who had media influence and paid the price as did Nixon.


21 posted on 01/28/2008 12:21:59 PM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: smoothsailing
The administration of President Harry S. Truman and the Democrats in Congress engaged in a massive cover-up

One of my questions is why Eisenhower would also take action against McCarthy, which he did.

I must read Evans' book.

22 posted on 01/28/2008 12:22:30 PM PST by what's up
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To: smoothsailing
The left in this country sees as their responsibility and theirs alone to write American "history" and report the daily "news". And if we are as uppity as to disagree, they launch the smear machine in our direction.

AS a companion read to Evans's book I strongly recommend "In Denial, Historians, Communism & Espionage" by John Earl Haynes and Harvey Klehr. As for the Marxist smear machine, it's been a successful technique in the U.S. for nearly 80 years, along with stealing and suppressing archival documents in the manner of Sandy Burglar.

The number of missing documents relating to McCarthy is simply astounding -- and it was unreported until Evans published his excellent book. He was fortunate to find a treasure trove of original McCarthy data cached by the late Ralph de Toledano. Otherwise much of his book simply wouldn't have been possible.

23 posted on 01/28/2008 12:26:48 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: what's up

The book covers the rationale of the many Republicans that aligned with ‘Rats against McCarthy. This is a MUST read.


24 posted on 01/28/2008 12:28:33 PM PST by C210N (The television has mounted the most serious assault on Republicanism since Das Kapital.)
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what really urks me besides their attacks on Joe, is that they toss all this aside, with a ‘well, that was yesterday, we’re not in bed with commies now’.

I however, beg to differ, the left’s continual love affair with anti american dictators, their continual cultural marxism, their pure hatred of anything that smacks of anything good about America....

pleezzzzzz, you’re still in bed with them, in one form or another.


25 posted on 01/28/2008 12:31:52 PM PST by raygunfan
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To: smoothsailing

To all, Please stop McCain.
We all knew Rush would be great today. RUSH: Stop caring who the media likes. Screw them!
26 posted on 01/28/2008 12:32:39 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
When Coulter's book on McCarthy came out, she went on BOR. He made some references to the doings of HUAC, and Coulter responded, "Well, Senator McCarthy didn't have anything to do with the House committee..."
27 posted on 01/28/2008 12:33:51 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: smoothsailing

Added to Amazon list.


28 posted on 01/28/2008 12:35:05 PM PST by GeneralisimoFranciscoFranco (I love liberals. They taste like chicken.)
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To: C210N
The book covers the rationale of the many Republicans

I must read this book.

29 posted on 01/28/2008 12:35:26 PM PST by what's up
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To: smoothsailing
In fact, our government was much more infested with Soviet agents than McCarthy imagined.

Ann Coulter came to the same conclusion in Treason.

Joe McCarthy should be hailed as an American hero!

30 posted on 01/28/2008 12:38:17 PM PST by TChris ("if somebody agrees with me 70% of the time, rather than 100%, that doesn’t make him my enemy." -RR)
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To: Plutarch
I havn't read the book yet, but am looking forward to it.

Wes Vernon did a great 9 part series on the book and McCarthy for the RewAmerica website.

Here's a link to the 9-part series.

32 posted on 01/28/2008 12:39:48 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: WildcatClan
I have to plead ignorance myself as I did not know that.

The Hollywood fiasco was in the House -- McCarthy was in the Senate.

33 posted on 01/28/2008 12:45:16 PM PST by Turret Gunner A20
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To: TChris
I still have my autographed copy of Treason. It was the most detailed account I had ever read about the life and times of Joe McCarthy. I'm looking forward to reading this book by Evans, it may well surpass Coulters noble effort. And yes, there can be no doubt that Tailgunner Joe was an American Patriot and a truly heroic man.
34 posted on 01/28/2008 12:58:27 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing; weegee; LucyT; PetroniusMaximus; Rumplemeyer; bassmaner; AndyTheBear; ...

McCarthy & American Jews.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1927254/posts

Waves of immigrants came to the USA from 1880-1920: the Poles the Italians the Irish the Jews. Most of these ethnic groups voted for FDR by large majorities in 1932, 1936 & 1940, but over time they have assimilated and become less politically monolithic. Yet to this day the American jews still vote democratic by hefty majorities. Why? It is because Hollywood still strenuously maintains the communist lie about the 1950-54 McCarthy era. That lie is maintained by the recent movies “A Beautiful Mind,” and “Good Night and Good Luck”.

Shortly before his death in 1953 Stalin initiated the Doctor’s Plot. There are various reasons given for that. The KGB hated Israel. Many Americans who were enthusiastic supporters of the UN were Jewish. Edvard Radzinsky in his book “Stalin” argues that while at one time Stalin hoped Jewish financial capital would help rebuild the Soviet Union after the WWII, Stalin hated the prospect of suborning himself to the Baruch Plan and he flat out rejected IAEA nuclear controls—presented in 1946 (an attitude is not entirely dissimliar to that of Iran today.) The Russians were working on their own A-bomb based on stolen US designs. Stalin, himself a Geogian, wanted to insure that the Russians saw a Russian face to a Communist Party which was top heavy with Jews.

Whatever the reason, Stalin fomented the Doctor’s plot hysteria and broke off diplomatic relations with Israel. He was within days of preparing to exile the Soviet Jews to the Gulag (as was done previously with various other ethnic minorities such as the Crimean Tatars, Chechens, etc.), and initiate another great purge along the lines of 1938.

Stalin already had the concentration camps set up, and some of the preliminary accusations had gone out for the Doctor’s Plot. 100 or so Russian jews had already been executed when he died in 1953. The important thing to recall is that the Doctor’s Plot happened at the same time as the McCarthy anti communist business from 1950-54. Also in 1953, in the US the Rosenburgs were tried and executed for treason—and this less than a decade after the Holocaust. This naturally caused fear and suspicion in the US Jewish community. This fear and suspicion was played upon by knowledgeable communists and leftists—large numbers of whom were themselves jewish. These folk not only knew about what Stalin had done in the 1930s and had been about to do with the doctor’s plot before he died, but also saw the McCarthy trials as show trials american style . . . that is, a prelude to an american pogrom. For which the Rosenbergs were exhibit A.

In a brilliant piece of jujitsu, leftists and communists imputed to Americans on the right exactly what Stalin had planned to do. But it was done soto voce. Basically, a blood libel was perpetrated on Americans without their knowing it. Worse, Protestant America was painted as the tribal enemy tooth and claw of the US jewish establishment without Christian America even knowing it. Never again! — Was the battle cry. But there weren’t any such enemies of Jews in the USA. If there actually had been Christian tribal enemies in the USA, Meyer Kahane and his Jewish Defense League would have provoked them into a bloodletting. Why did Meyer Kahane behave the way he did? Because he heard the same thing as everyone else - all the Jews, that is. He heard about enemies of the jews in the heartland. But when he went to give battle, the only sorts of fights the JDL could find resulted in unintelligible court disputes in places like Idaho. In the end, Kahane married an American woman & helped expedite Stalin’s last wish—to rid Russia of Jews. When his American wife committed suicide, Kahane lost interest in the USA and focused instead on Israel. When Kahane died in 1990 it was at the hands of a Moslem.

While the American public outside NY/LA were generally given the view that the McCarthy era was an age when innocent men were unjustly tried by suspicious anti semites like McCarthy & Nixon, the NY/LA Jewish establishment was given a very different story. They were given to understand that the democrats/liberals had prevented the US from visiting a holocaust on them - and that American Jews owed their loyalty to the liberal democrats because the liberal democrats were the protectors of the Jews. And this Meme went on untouched for decades after McCarthy.

This dual track story line didn’t crack until the early 1990’s when the KGB/NKVD/GRU opened up their files on the WWII-McCarthy period. In 1995 the US’s National Security Agency opened up their Venona files. Both Russian and American spy agency files showed that McCarthy was right. The Rosenburgs were guilty. The US government —notably including the Manhattan Project—had been at one time soaked with Russian Spies. While McCarthy had the details wrong, he got the general outline of the story right. Why did McCarthy get the outline right and the details wrong? The reason is that McCarthy’s relationship to Hoover was the same as Hoover’s relationship to the NSA.

The NSA told the FBI about the Venona intercepts but insisted that the FBI could not use NSA intercepts as evidence in court. The FBI had to develop their own leads. As a result most of the spies escaped prosecution. The FBI did not get their man.

In 1950 J. Edgar Hoover began weekly meetings with Joseph McCarthy. Those meetings ended in 1954. The beginning and end of those meetings coincided with the beginning and end of McCarthy star turn in the national spot light. McCarthy got most of the details of the spy story wrong but he got the general outline of the story right. His predicament was the same as that of the FBI. Whatever Hoover told him—McCarthy could not use in the senate hearings. To this day the FBI denies that Hoover told McCarthy anything about the Venona Cables and maybe Hoover said nothing explicit to McCarthy for which Hoover could be liable in court.

Needless to say, an American style shoah was never in the cards.

The reason that Hollywood hated Ronald Reagan so much was that he was an anti communist in Hollywood during the McCarthy period. To be staunchly anti communist in Hollywood or NYC at that time was to be at least vaguely anti semitic because in the 30’s to the 50’s communism was considered to be almost a secular form of Judaism in the Jewish communities of NY/LA. Given the reputation of the Jews in capitalist countries as the quintessential capitalists, this seems ironic. But in Russia, communism was a way to get ahead for the jews. And in addition to the opportunities communism presented to Jews, there was a biblical antecedent for jewish communists in the bible in the person of Joseph in Egypt because the relationship between Jews to Joseph’s Egypt maps over well to that between Jews and Communist Russia. And the history of the Jews from Joseph to Moses looks very similar to the rise to prominence of many Jews in the soviet communist bureaucracy from the 1917-1970 and the decades long expulsion of Russia’s jews after 1970 when it became clear that communism was not working. The Russians blamed Russian jews for the failure of communism.

Reagan was among the first wave of FDR democrats to switch parties. Reagan’s star turn in Hollywood ended after McCarthy, but his experiences in Hollywood served him well when he went into public service. He always understood the jujitsu of media talk of the age. Something that cannot be said of Nixon. Nixon’s rise to prominance began with his role with the House Unamerican Activities Committee (HUAC)—a role for which gained visceral leftist enemies with long memories (in the way John Kerry gained prominence during the Viet Nam era and made visceral enemies of the swift boat veterans.) Nixons fall also coincides with the Russian expulsion of Russia’s jews.

I would not argue that Nixon paid the price for Russia’s expulsion of Russian jews. That stretches the point. However, when I hear American based Moslems talking about McCarthyism being visited on them, I have to laugh. They have unknowingly pronounced themselves guilty in the eyes of many Americans.

The history of the McCarthy period now is forgotten among American Jews except for the vague idea that somehow Republicans are bad and somehow Democrats are good.
As for the Democrats, part of the reason for the loss of their inner coherence in the last decade has been that the part of their foundational raison d’être which stems from the McCarthy era was revealed to be based on a lie. So now the core of the Democratic Party is the sodomites. Those people are not just confusing, they are confused.

David Horowitz interviewed by Rush Limbaugh some months ago — talked about how his parents were communists and he was a communist in college. He said when he was in college his views were always treated respectfully by his professors. But, he said recently, a young Christian college student told him that his homosexual college professor had singled him out in class and asked him “Why do you Christians hate queers?” Asked why he continued to do what he did in the face of all the abuse he gets, David Horowitz said that - like Rush - he took public political positions because he had to. But also he said he did it as a matter of atonement.

He gets it.

Venona Historical Writings that include comparisons of venona and russian spy lists and the changing venona story in the academy. http://www.johnearlhaynes.org/page43.html http://www.johnearlhaynes.org/index.html


35 posted on 01/28/2008 1:10:21 PM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: what's up
I figured Ike did it to protect the Army, but he obviously should have supported McCarthy wholeheartedly instead.
36 posted on 01/28/2008 1:13:23 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Plutarch
Ditto "must reading".

I got it for Christmas too.

37 posted on 01/28/2008 1:16:36 PM PST by LucyJo
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To: ckilmer

We are still paying for Soviet disinformation and funding of communists in the arts, media, and universities. Lots of hapless souls sold their birthright for the proverbial bread and pottage of lentils. We pay for it with a twisted history and blocks of voters still opposing freedom without understanding the intellectual lineage of thier views.


38 posted on 01/28/2008 1:22:18 PM PST by Greg F (Romney supported the right of homosexuals to be Scout Masters in 1994.)
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To: smoothsailing
Ann Coulter on Joe McCarthy:

**Ann Coulter: MCCARTHYISM: THE ROSETTA STONE OF LIBERAL LIES (LIBERALs LIE???)**
AnnCoulter.Com ^ | November 7, 2007 | Ann Coulter

Posted on 11/07/2007 3:05:59 PM PST by Syncro

THEY'LL NEVER FORGIVE YOU [Ann Coulter on Ron Radosh, Joe McCarthy, "Blacklisted by History"]
AnnCoulter.com ^ | December 5, 2007 | Ann Coulter

Posted on 12/05/2007 3:25:21 PM PST by RonDog

JOE MCCARTHY INVENTED THE INTERNET ... Ann Coulter
Ann Coulter Dot Com ^ | 12 Dec 2007 | Ann Coulter

Posted on 12/12/2007 3:00:06 PM PST by Rummyfan


39 posted on 01/28/2008 1:35:33 PM PST by Syncro
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To: whitedog57

Right you are, but ironicly, they have found their new communist and he is B.Obama!


40 posted on 01/28/2008 1:58:04 PM PST by CRBDeuce (an armed society is a polite society)
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To: ckilmer
Why you insist on dragging the late Rabbi Me'ir Kahana' (zt"l; Hy"d) into your remarks on Leftist Jews who hate the American heartland I have no idea. Rabbi Kahana' was a lifelong rightwinger and anti-Communist, and so far as I know his beef was not with the American heartland at all. Perhaps you are confusing him with the lamentable Irv Rubin, the pseudo-conservative "Republican" who took over the US JDL after Rabbi Kahana' moved to Israel. Unlike Rabbi Kahana', Rubin did indeed have a problem with the American heartland at once burnt a Confederate flag. If Rabbi Kahana' ever did any such thing I've never heard of it. In fact, the Rabbi was regularly accused of "racism" by all the usual suspects, and he was a vociferous critic of the liberal US Jewish establishment (which refused to have anything to do with him).

While we're on the subject of liberals making scapegoats of people, if you ever read Evans' book on McCarthy you will read that it was not "Protestant America" but Roman Catholicism (McCarthy was Catholic) which the liberals made into a big bugaboo, even making a big show of defending Protestants when one of his staffer (a Protestant himself) allegedly "attacked" them. Believe me, as one of FR's most notorious "anti-Catholics," I take no pleasure from this observation!

At any rate, your attitude towards Rabbi Kahana' is every bit as groundless as the attitude of most Jews to McCarthy.

41 posted on 01/28/2008 2:22:40 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vayiqach sefer haberit vayiqra' be'ozney ha`am; vay'omru, Kol 'asher-dibber HaShem na`aseh venishma!)
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To: althusius
I've said it before and I'll say it again... the next aircraft carrier ought to be named Senator McCarthy.

I second that! My only point of contention is that it should be named the Joseph R. McCarthy so as to avoid confusion with Senator Eugene J. McCarthy, the Sixties hippies' candidate in '68.

42 posted on 01/28/2008 2:26:52 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vayiqach sefer haberit vayiqra' be'ozney ha`am; vay'omru, Kol 'asher-dibber HaShem na`aseh venishma!)
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To: what's up
One of my questions is why Eisenhower would also take action against McCarthy, which he did.

Because there was more to it than just the truth of what McCarthy was saying. There was also the manner in which he was saying it. In politics, the messenger and his demeanor are at least as important as the message itself.

43 posted on 01/28/2008 2:33:29 PM PST by r9etb
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bflr


44 posted on 01/28/2008 2:54:40 PM PST by Captainpaintball
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To: weegee

I am almost certain that the MSM along with America’s bastions of higher education is run by Communist or those with Communist leanings.


45 posted on 01/28/2008 3:23:03 PM PST by gunnedah
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To: ckilmer
Your brief synopsis of Meir Kahane and the Jewish Defense League is off base. The JDL was not a reaction to any events of the McCarthy era and was founded a considerable time thereafter. It was considered to be a right wing "extremist" group and focused its interest primarily on antisemitism in New York and LA, much of which was perpetrated by newly developed black radical groups. Rather than venturing out into the heartland to confront imaginary Christian enemies, it was primarily a force in an urban struggle against violent crime, motivated by antisemitism, perpetrated upon Jews in urban areas.

On another issue, the Soviet government (though unquestionably antisemitic) never "expelled" Jews. Rather, c. 1970, they began to begrudgingly let some oppressed Jews out of the country in response to international protest. The goal of the Soviet communists was to rid the Jewish population of its religious, cultural, and ethnic identity so it could completely assimilate into "good" communists. Those who got in the way were severly punished.

46 posted on 01/28/2008 3:48:59 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: smoothsailing

Good piece. She’s always writes good stuff.


47 posted on 01/28/2008 3:49:34 PM PST by LifeOrGoods? (Save the Republican party: Vote Romney!!!)
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To: ckilmer; wideawake
And in addition to the opportunities communism presented to Jews, there was a biblical antecedent for jewish communists in the bible in the person of Joseph in Egypt because the relationship between Jews to Joseph’s Egypt maps over well to that between Jews and Communist Russia. And the history of the Jews from Joseph to Moses looks very similar to the rise to prominence of many Jews in the soviet communist bureaucracy from the 1917-1970 and the decades long expulsion of Russia’s jews after 1970 when it became clear that communism was not working.

Unfortunately, in my haste to defend Rabbi Kahana' (zt"l; Hy"d) I completely missed this paragraph in which you dare to attack Yosef HaTzaddiq (a'h"sh) and the holy Jews of the Torah as precursors of the Communists! This is the very same theory preached by such as the late, unlamented neo-Nazi Francis Parker Yockey (y'sh"v!), who claimed that Joseph had imposed "the new deal" on Egypt(!!!).

I don't care if you're a member of the class of '98. As far as I'm concerned, someone with your views doesn't belong on a conservative forum.

48 posted on 01/28/2008 4:29:42 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vayiqach sefer haberit vayiqra' be'ozney ha`am; vay'omru, Kol 'asher-dibber HaShem na`aseh venishma!)
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To: LS; smoothsailing; Obadiah; Mind-numbed Robot; Zacs Mom; A.Hun; johnny7; ...
It's now well known that Communist agents imbedded in high-ranking positions included White House confidant Lauchlin Currie, State Department official Alger Hiss and Treasury Department official Harry Dexter White. Evans quotes FBI files identifying atom bomb scientist J. Robert Oppenheimer as a secret Communist as early as 1942.

Taking on the anti-communist mission locked McCarthy in mortal combat against powerful forces: two U.S. presidents, the vast federal bureaucracy, malicious adversaries in Congress, left-wing lobby groups and the left-wing media who made him their daily target.

I do think journalism went through a period of about 100 years (1860-1960) where the majority of reporters and editors tried to be "objective" and adopted codes of conduct to try to ensure objectivity (always get more than one witness; get the other side of the story; no unsourced stories; etc.) In other words, I do think for a while most reporters attempted to be "fair and balanced" and "objective." Whether they succeeded is a different question.

One of the problems is that if you ALWAYS get the "other side of the story," it does introduce the notion that there always IS another "side of the story." What was the other side of the story to the Holocaust? Should we "get Hitler's take?" In other words, it legitimizes falsity.

The Market for Conservative-Based News

One thing to suggest that there was a good-faith attempt at objectivity by the Associated Press and the papers associated with it at the start of the institution of the AP. Quite another to believe that "the news" ever was actually objective. IMHO the novelty of the AP newswire and its ability to inform the width and breadth of the nation instantly created journalism as we know it. And journalism as we know it is inherently demagogic, so that it is naturally easy and gutless to align yourself with journalism's negative, superficial perspective. And thus, it requires courage and unusual acuity to be able to stake out a non-demagogic political position in opposition to the AP and Big Journalism.

At some point the parties divided on that basis. Politicians who aligned themselves with demagogic so-called "objective" journalism are designated by journalists as "liberals" - and those who refuse to do so are designated by journalists as (evil) "conservatives." "Maverick John McCain" attempts a straddle whereby he retains the "conservative" label while pandering to the demagogic tendencies of "objective" journalism by, among other heresies, demagoging the pharmaceutical companies as "the enemy."


49 posted on 01/28/2008 5:19:56 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The Democratic Party is only a front for the political establishment in America - Big Journalism.)
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To: Syncro
"Contrary to today's image of McCarthy as a despised Torquemada, McCarthy was given a rare state funeral with a private memorial service in the Senate chamber, his seat covered with flowers. St. Matthew's Cathedral bestowed him with the highest honor the Catholic Church can confer, performing a Solemn Pontifical Requiem Mass before one hundred priests and two thousand well-wishers. Seventy senators attended his funeral, as did J. Edgar Hoover. Thirty thousand Americans lined up outside the Washington funeral home where McCarthy lay to pay their final respects from early in the morning until late at night. Condolences poured in to McCarthy's wife, amounting to more than seventy bags of mail." -- Ann Coulter,Treason P. 123
50 posted on 01/28/2008 5:26:54 PM PST by smoothsailing
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