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Radio Talkers on the Line Against McCain
Townhall ^ | January 28, 2008 | David Bauder

Posted on 01/28/2008 7:27:44 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

John McCain heads into Tuesday's Florida primary facing resistance from not only his fellow candidates, but also from the leaders of conservative talk radio, who some suggest have put their reputations on the line, as well.

Talk radio pioneer Rush Limbaugh said that if McCain or Mike Huckabee are nominated, "it's going to destroy the Republican Party." Mark Levin calls the senator "John McLame." On Monday, Laura Ingraham said she was "concerned about the mental stability of the McCain campaign" and had cuckoo-clock sound effects accompany his words.

"Sen. McCain is a great American, a lousy senator and a terrible Republican," Hugh Hewitt told The Associated Press. "He has a legislative record that is not conservative. In fact, it is anti-conservative."

Yet with McCain winning primaries in New Hampshire and South Carolina, and in a virtual tie with Mitt Romney for the lead in polls in Florida, the top radio personalities are facing the possibility that their words are having little effect.

Radio host Michael Medved said that the big loser in South Carolina was talk radio, "a medium that has unmistakably collapsed in terms of impact, influence and credibility because of its hysterical and one-dimensional involvement in the GOP nomination fight."

Its continued resistance to McCain will be ineffective and will hurt both the Republican Party and the radio industry, Medved said.

The long-running hostility toward McCain stems from his failure to follow conservative orthodoxy on issues including immigration, global warming and money in politics, Hewitt said. McCain's endorsement by The New York Times _ the newspaper conservative talkers love to hate _ was just another indignity.

Michael Harrison, publisher of Talkers magazine, warned against any conclusion that talk radio hosts would be diminished if McCain were to win the GOP nomination.

"It will give them an opportunity to reposition themselves in a more independent and populist way," Harrison said. Talk show hosts aren't judged on whom they pick as a candidate, any more than the jobs of football announcers are on the line with their Super Bowl predictions, he said.

They're judged on ratings and revenue, and every indication is that the election season will be a boon for talk radio, he said.

Limbaugh picked up on that point on the air last week when he rebutted any analysis by the "drive-by media" that McCain's strong showing had been a rebuke to him. He noted that a chapter in one of his books was titled "My Success is Not Determined by Who Wins Elections."

"You nominate the nominee; I don't," he said. "This notion ... that I've been overcome here, McCain's beaten me back, that's not the way to look at this, because that whole line of thinking relies on the fact that you people have to be perceived as mind-numbed robots and that you are all a bunch of sponges and you sit out there and you have no brain and you have no independent thoughts. You just listen to what I say and you go act on it.

"We know that's not the case," he said. "It's never been the case."

It's a reflection of the muddled primary race that radio talkers are more fixated on whom they don't like _ McCain _ than any candidate who wows them.

"The mood is that everyone offers something and nobody offers everything _ and that's why there is so much confusion," said L. Brent Bozell, founder of the conservative media watchdog Media Research Center.

Hewitt said he would vote for Mitt Romney "if I was voting today," but he's not. He also likes Rudy Giuliani.

If McCain were the Republican nominee running against either Hillary Rodham Clinton or Barack Obama, Hewitt said he would support McCain. So would most of his colleagues in talk radio, he said.

"It's not about taking your ball and going home," he said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: conservatism; conservatives; election; electionpresident; elections; fl2008; gop; hughhewitt; johnmccain; juanmccainez; marklevin; mccain; michaelmedved; primaries; pundits; republicans; rino; rinos; sc2008; talkradio
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I hope Medved at least got kissed.
1 posted on 01/28/2008 7:27:47 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hopefully, McCrazy will lose and Medved’s career will be over!

That would be cosmic justice!


2 posted on 01/28/2008 7:30:57 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It should read “Conservative Radio Talkers”. That would leave Medved out.


3 posted on 01/28/2008 7:33:07 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I disagree with alot of persons on this blog. I will vote for McCain. I will vote for Romney. I think McCain would be a better candidate Nationally and I think he is more Conservative than Romney at heart. Romeny is just recently said the right things. McCain you know he will stand up for most Conservative social issues. Economically he will be good. He will be a supreme warrior. I trust him to defend this country. Rush is all wrong. His sins are not as great as many think.


4 posted on 01/28/2008 7:34:31 PM PST by therut
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To: therut

Arizona Freepers have a totally different take on McLame thank yours. I don’t think McLame has a conservative bone in his body. He and Arnold would make a great set of twins.


5 posted on 01/28/2008 7:36:51 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

6 posted on 01/28/2008 7:37:15 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t care what anyone says. I WILL NOT VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN. I WILL WRITE IN MICKEY MOUSE. HE CAN’T BE TRUSTED AS FAR AS I CAN THROW A HOUSE.


7 posted on 01/28/2008 7:37:27 PM PST by Virginia Queen (Virginia Queen)
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To: therut
My friend, you need to do some more research.

Try the many articles here at FreeRepublic, other posters have done a good job of cataloging the multitude of McCrazy’s sins against conservatism.

8 posted on 01/28/2008 7:37:48 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Here are the Senators who voted against the Cornyn amendment , which would have established a permanent bar for gang members, terrorists, and other criminals looking to snag a shamnesty visa. Republicans underlined:

Never forget McCain not only pushed the amnesty bill, he refused to allow exclusions for the worst of the lot. And he unloaded his infamous temper on his mild- mannered senate colleague for having the audacity to introduce this amendment.

Apologies to any who feel I am spamming this message on campaign threads, but it is an important message on a key vote which needs to get out.

9 posted on 01/28/2008 7:38:49 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

mccain would bring back the Fairness Doctrine.


10 posted on 01/28/2008 7:39:08 PM PST by Vision Thing
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"The long-running hostility toward McCain stems from his failure to follow conservative orthodoxy on issues including immigration, global warming and money in politics"

The so-called "money in politics" is really more of a concern about McCain's legislation restricting freedom of political speech...

11 posted on 01/28/2008 7:39:59 PM PST by Hoof Hearted
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mark Levin Hates McCain very much.


12 posted on 01/28/2008 7:41:15 PM PST by elizabetty ("Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm." .Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: therut

Doctor:

That is why we have a republican democracy, so that we are able to vote for whomever we feel would best take our country in the right direction. I respectfully disagree with you, but your vote is yours to bestow. I hope that you will read, study and pray on your decision, as we all should.

Fred


13 posted on 01/28/2008 7:43:07 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Second To None!)
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To: elizabetty

Has Mark Levin said he Hates McCrazy, or is that just your interpretation?


14 posted on 01/28/2008 7:43:22 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: therut

“(McCain’s) sins are not as great as many think”.
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A few words from ‘the other’ (David) Limbaugh:
“I respectfully reject that McCain’s honorable and sacrificial character-building experiences or his self-description as a “straight talker” place his veracity above question. I remember him sidling up to the media by falsely claiming George Bush didn’t level with the American people about how long the Iraq war could take. I remember him blaming dirty campaign tricks on Bush in South Carolina in 2000, when investigations revealed there was no evidence Bush was behind it. I remember him joining liberals in slandering the truth-telling Swift Boat veterans as “dishonest and dishonorable.” I remember his disingenuous derision of the across-the-board Bush tax cuts as being only for the rich. I witnessed him changing his position on immigration to shore up support in South Carolina, then after that primary arrogantly denying to Sean Hannity that he’d flip-flopped. People can assess for themselves whether McCain is always straight, but hopefully they’ll base their decision on the evidence and not his hero status.

“He crusades against Guantanamo, favors constitutional rights for terrorists but opposes tough interrogation techniques, was the ringleader of the Gang of 14, which legitimized the filibustering of judicial nominees, and is the godfather of political speech-suppressing and Democrat-favoring campaign-finance reform legislation.

“He has displayed contempt for conservative evangelicals, opposed Bush’s pro-growth tax cuts for reasons other than he says (spending), has engaged in other class-warfare rhetoric like demonizing oil and drug companies, co-sponsored the abominable McCain-Kennedy illegal immigrant-forgiveness/open-borders/Social Security zapping bill, and even voted for the Specter amendment, which could have conferred consulting rights on Mexico concerning the erection of a southern border fence.

“He sold out on global warming, opportunistically opposed drilling in ANWR, favors re-importation of drugs from Canada, and promoted the McCain-Kennedy-Edwards patients bill of rights. Even his pro-life credentials are not as pristine as we’re told: He opposes reversal of Roe vs. Wade and sided with anti-political speech zealots in filing an amicus brief against Wisconsin Right to Life.”

Please check:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XazpaYwFKd8&e
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUDBV6RhQho


15 posted on 01/28/2008 7:46:05 PM PST by AlternateEgo (Fred Thompson for the Supreme Court)
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To: therut
I disagree with alot of persons on this blog. I will vote for McCain. I will vote for Romney. I think McCain would be a better candidate Nationally and I think he is more Conservative than Romney at heart. Romeny is just recently said the right things.

I'm with you. I'm voting for our nominee, whoever he may be. But if it's Romney, I will suspect that I am not voting for a true conservative, but an opportunist who reinvented himself as one.

The bottom line is that ANY REPUBLICAN is better than ANY RAT.

16 posted on 01/28/2008 7:47:13 PM PST by freespirited (Still a proud member of the Stupid Party. It beats the Evil Party any day of the week.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

FredHeads for Mitt? You couldn’t pay me enough to vote for Romney in the primary. Maybe some FredHeads can be “bought” by this ultra-liberal pretending to be a conservative (just for the primaries).


17 posted on 01/28/2008 7:50:24 PM PST by bluebeak
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To: therut
As a former Arizonan and an ex-McCain voter, I respectfully disagree with you. I once felt the same way as you but can now say from experience that you just haven't been fooled enough by McCain...at least not yet...and hopefully you and the rest of the country never will.

Unless you are a democrat or a liberal moderate, a simple look at his record, at the things he has supported and/or co-authored, will make you re-think your post. He is NOT a conservative and actual Republican McCain supporters should re-think their support. I don't care what office he's running for or who he's running against, I will NEVER vote for him again.

18 posted on 01/28/2008 7:51:12 PM PST by GBA ( God Bless America!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Radio host Michael Medved said that the big loser in South Carolina was talk radio, "a medium that has unmistakably collapsed in terms of impact, influence and credibility because of its hysterical and one-dimensional involvement in the GOP nomination fight."

Its continued resistance to McCain will be ineffective and will hurt both the Republican Party and the radio industry, Medved said.

In other words, Medved doesn't like that they aren't carrying water for his guy.

Medved's show is terrible.

19 posted on 01/28/2008 7:52:48 PM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: Vigilanteman
Apologies to any who feel I am spamming this message on campaign threads

I appreciate it!

20 posted on 01/28/2008 7:52:49 PM PST by lonestar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Come on guys and gals...McCain is 95% Republican...5% of the time!


21 posted on 01/28/2008 7:54:39 PM PST by engrpat
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To: bluebeak

Suit yourself. I am voting for the one conservative left in the race.


22 posted on 01/28/2008 7:55:07 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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To: ExTexasRedhead
"He (McCain) and Arnold would make a great set of twins."

You get it. Republicans in the CA legislature are working against Schwartzeneggar just like Republicans in Congress will have to work against McCain. Arnold's health care bill got thrown into the garbage just today. Whew!

23 posted on 01/28/2008 7:59:41 PM PST by BobS
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To: Virginia Queen

Hillary thanks you for your support.


24 posted on 01/28/2008 8:09:31 PM PST by End Times Crusader (The Comeback Candidate: John McCain - Leadership for America)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Clear Channel Communications is a media giant by any definition of the word. This behemoth owns more than 1,200 radio stations as well as syndication companies and billboard advertising. The company owns Premier Radio Network which has the syndication rights to the Rush Limbaugh show, Glen Beck and a host of others. Premier boasts more than 90 radio shows in its stable and offers services to more than 4,600 affiliates. Clear channel also has a lucrative contract with Sean Hannity, which agrees to air his program on 80 of their stations through 2010. In addition, nearly every talk radio host in America relies on Clear Channel stations for a large portion of their audience. Talkers like Mark Levin, Laura Ingraham and Mike Gallagher would suffer greatly if they were cut out by Clear Channel.

In a deal that has been in the works for some time, Bain Capital is leading a consortium that has offered to buy Clear Channel for the tidy sum of 19.5 BILLION dollars. The FCC recently approved the acquisition and Clear Channel execs expect the transaction to be finalized sometime in the first quarter of 2008. The fact that Romney’s company is purchasing CCC isn’t a problem. The governor’s liberal past and the way it’s being covered up and explained away is another matter.


25 posted on 01/28/2008 8:16:57 PM PST by Tigen (Nothing new here)
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To: therut
You obviously don't live as close to the border as some of us. If McCain has his way the border would be wide open, everyone that could crawl here, would be given a free pass to stay, at our expense. McCain is worse than he is being portrayed, I've been in the same room with him many times. I've never met anyone so arrogant. He is an opportunist of the first order.

I will not vote for him for any office, for any reason. I quit voting for him years ago, I've voted for some lousy Libertarians running against McCain, and I'll do it again.

26 posted on 01/28/2008 8:17:09 PM PST by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

27 posted on 01/28/2008 8:17:48 PM PST by TheLion
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To: therut

McCain has Juan Hernandez working on his campaign team. Juan is a former Mexican Government Minister, and claims dual-citizenship. He is working to have an open border between the U.S. and Mexico, and wants to intensify the invasion of the U.S. by Mexico. He has no respect for U.S. sovereignty or for our culture with its ties to England and Europe.

No way will I support McCain for this unAmerican activity.


28 posted on 01/28/2008 8:17:50 PM PST by SatinDoll (Fredhead and proud of it!)
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To: therut

“Economically he will be good.”

How can you say that? No man who makes the claim that he’d like to see interest rates at 0% could ever be good for the economy except by accident.

I knew more than John McCain knows about how our economy works as a pimply-faced high school kid. That kind of ignorance and complete lack of understanding by McCain is inexcuseable.

And after the way McCain attempted to sell my nation and the nation by grandparents, parents, and relatives fought so valiantly for, to just send it spiraling down the Rio Grande... NEVER.

Not only is the man arrogant in the face of unflappable ignorance, he’s also a sell-out.


29 posted on 01/28/2008 8:18:49 PM PST by CaspersGh0sts
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To: therut
Talk radio pioneer Rush Limbaugh said that if McCain or Mike Huckabee are nominated, "it's going to destroy the Republican Party."

I disagree Rut. I think Limbaugh is right. If Paul McRombeeani is the choice, I write in Fred or sit it out. If McCain is the choice, I change my affiliation to independent.

I won't vote for the lesser of 5 evils again. That's what has gotten us to this point in the first place of having 5 RINOS to choose from.

Not me! Not again!

30 posted on 01/28/2008 8:20:31 PM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.)
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To: Tigen

Ronald Reagan, when Governor of California, signed laws on abortion and raising taxes. What a politician does when a governor is quite different than when President.

I suspect that being a governor is a learning experience for what not to do when you’re president. Just a thought, not an excuse.


31 posted on 01/28/2008 8:21:01 PM PST by SatinDoll (Fredhead and proud of it!)
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To: All

Just because some GOP are dumb enough to support McAztlan doesnt mean we all have to. A vote for McAztlan is a waste of a good conservative vote


32 posted on 01/28/2008 8:21:08 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Support the ABM Treaty...Anyone But McCain)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I will not vote for McPAIN, and have already voted in CA. for Romney.


33 posted on 01/28/2008 8:24:39 PM PST by Lady on the Lake
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Considering McCain’s propensity for vindictiveness, I wonder where he stands on the Fairness Doctrine?


34 posted on 01/28/2008 8:26:20 PM PST by mrsmel
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

McCain would probably try to outlaw talk radio, if elected.


35 posted on 01/28/2008 8:27:19 PM PST by B Knotts (If McCain wins, we lose.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
McAztlan

I love it, that says it all.

36 posted on 01/28/2008 8:28:00 PM PST by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I WILL vote for Romney.

If McCain or Huckabee win the nomination I'll stay home.

37 posted on 01/28/2008 8:28:41 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: SatinDoll

Please read post 25
This has to do with the possible owner of the radio stations that Rush Sean Laura etc are talking on now and who the owner just may be.
It is my experience that you tend to say the things your possible boss might want you to say because your job is at stake...


38 posted on 01/28/2008 8:30:29 PM PST by Tigen (Nothing new here)
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To: Tigen

I have a hard time with McCain too


39 posted on 01/28/2008 8:31:30 PM PST by Tigen (Nothing new here)
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To: therut
His (McCain) sins are not as great as many think.

Even if we forgive all past transgressions, I remained deeply concerned about his plans for: 1. Energy/environment, 2. Thwarting universal health care, 3. Judicial appointments, and 4. Supporting partisanship.

The wrong moves on Nos. 1 & 2 could lead soon to catastrophic monetary loss. The effects of 3 & 4 are more likely to be felt further down the road.

40 posted on 01/28/2008 8:32:34 PM PST by Rudder
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Regardless of who you support in the FL primary, I was embarrassed by our Conservative talk show hosts today.

Their comments were cheap shots, vitriolic and clearly demonstrated all the tactics we blame the lib media types for.

It was cheap, tawdry and hugely disappointing. All day I asked myself, what would Reagan do???? and I knew it wasn’t what Limbaugh, Hannity and others were doing.

41 posted on 01/28/2008 8:34:36 PM PST by MindBender26 (Ugliness can be cured by a light switch.)
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To: Virginia Queen

Obama/Hillary thank you.


42 posted on 01/28/2008 8:36:49 PM PST by Finalapproach29er (Dems will impeach Bush in 2008, they have nothing else. Mark my words.)
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To: Tigen

I’m talking about how stinking lousy McCain is and that Romney looks better.

I don’t give a rip what a bunch of talkers on the radio say, nor who may be buying their contracts.


43 posted on 01/28/2008 8:38:20 PM PST by SatinDoll (Fredhead and proud of it!)
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To: Finalapproach29er
BAH!

8 years of Bill and America is still here. 8 years of Hill and we'll still be here as well. Stop trying to use the same scare tactics that have been tried for the last 20 years.

If you can't give us a reason to vote for a conservative republican, how about stopping being a comedy act?

44 posted on 01/28/2008 8:40:25 PM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.)
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To: MindBender26

Thats why I am concerned with Mitt Romneys buying of the radio stations or being able to in any way sway what these hosts have to say
It is bordering on a dictatorship.


45 posted on 01/28/2008 8:41:43 PM PST by Tigen (Nothing new here)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t see how these radio hosts are putting their reputations on the line by speaking their mind. This must come from the Medvedian school of thought where if you don’t support the eventual winner, you must be a loser yourself. I have already lost all respect for Medved. If McCain somehow wins the presidency, I won’t suddenly respect Medved because he supported the guy.


46 posted on 01/28/2008 8:43:18 PM PST by Junior_G
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To: therut

Have you totally lost your mind?


47 posted on 01/28/2008 8:43:57 PM PST by AllseeingEye33
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To: therut

McCain called me a bigot or was it racist? I will never ever vote for anyone who calls me those names, no matter what.


48 posted on 01/28/2008 8:44:04 PM PST by libbylu (Why vote for a democrat with an R next to his name? I'm a MITTen.)
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To: freespirited

The bottom line is that ANY REPUBLICAN is better than ANY RAT.

Sorry but McCain would be just as bad, if not worse than Hillary or Obama.


49 posted on 01/28/2008 8:47:07 PM PST by AllseeingEye33
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To: Tigen
Thats why I am concerned with Mitt Romneys buying of the radio stations or being able to in any way sway what these hosts have to say It is bordering on a dictatorship.

That was the same story trotted out in 2000 with Clear Channel. Non-starter.

50 posted on 01/28/2008 8:48:13 PM PST by the808bass
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