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McCain Presidency Would Be a Disaster "Mentally unstable and not fit to be president.”
newsmax.com ^ | 012708 | Ronald Kessler

Posted on 01/29/2008 6:57:21 AM PST by VU4G10

John McCain’s false charge that Mitt Romney favored a set timetable for withdrawing from Iraq underscores how disastrous a McCain presidency would be.

Any candidate can make a slight misstatement while talking extemporaneously. Hillary Clinton constantly rewrites her own record and has been caught fabricating, as when she made up the story that on 9/11, her daughter Chelsea was going to jog at Battery Park near the towers, where she heard and saw the catastrophe unfold.

But no candidate in this race has gone so far as to baldly fabricate what another candidate has said, as McCain did over the weekend. That same kind of recklessness is evident in McCain’s explosions of temper, which are meant to intimidate those who do not agree with him or do not support him.

Not naming him at first, McCain said in Fort Myers, Fla., “Now, one of my opponents wanted to set a date for withdrawal that would have meant disaster.”

Talking to reporters minutes later, the Arizona senator was more direct: “'If we surrender and wave a white flag, like Senator Clinton wants to do, and withdraw, as Gov. Romney wanted to do, then there will be chaos, genocide, and the cost of American blood and treasure would be dramatically higher.”

Asked about the comment, Romney said, “That’s dishonest, to say that I have a specific date. That’s simply wrong,” he said. “That is not the case. We’ve never said that.”

Romney asked for an apology. Having moved on to Sun City, Fla., McCain said: “The apology is owed to the young men and women serving this nation in uniform.”

A look at what Romney actually said in an interview on ABC’s Good Morning America on April 3, 2007 makes it clear that Romney said the opposite of what McCain claimed he said.

Robin Roberts said to Romney, “You have also been very vocal in supporting the president and the troop surge. Yet, the American public has lost faith in this war. Do you believe that there should be a timetable in withdrawing the troops?”

“Well, there’s no question but that— the president and Prime Minister al-Maliki have to have a series of timetables and milestones that they speak about,” Romney replied. “But those shouldn’t be for public pronouncement. You don’t want the enemy to understand how long they have to wait in the weeds until you’re going to be gone. You want to have a series of things you want to see accomplished in terms of the strength of the Iraqi military and the Iraqi police, and the leadership of the Iraqi government.”

“So, private,” Robins said. “You wouldn’t do it publicly? Because the president has said flat out that he will veto anything the Congress passes about a timetable for troop withdrawals. As president, would you do the same?”

“Well, of course,” Romney said. “Can you imagine a setting where during the Second World War we said to the Germans, gee, if we haven't reached the Rhine by this date, why, we’ll go home, or if we haven’t gotten this accomplished we’ll pull up and leave? You don’t publish that to your enemy, or they just simply lie in wait until that time. So, of course, you have to work together to create timetables and milestones, but you don’t do that with the opposition.”

With the exception of Sean Hannity on Fox News, no news outlet fully quoted what Romney actually said on GMA. That’s no surprise. As the New York Times’ recent endorsement of McCain suggests, the liberal media love him. As a former McCain aide told me, that’s because the senator gives reporters total access to him and because he is as liberal as a Democrat on many issues.

On almost “every turn on domestic policy, John McCain was not only against us, but leading the charge on the other side,” former Sen. Rick Santorum, the Pennsylvania Republican, has said.

In a stunning example of the media’s slant, the AP’s Ron Fournier wrote after Romney won in Michigan, “The former Massachusetts governor pandered to voters, distorted his opponents’ record, and continued to show why he’s the most malleable—and least credible—major presidential candidate,” Fournier wrote. “And it worked.”

As for McCain, “The man who spoke hard truths to Michigan lost,” Fournier said. “Of all the reasons John McCain deserved a better result Tuesday night, his gamble on the economy stands out”

Not to be outdone, the New York Times ran a story on Jan. 24 headlined, “Romney Leads in Ill Will Among GOP Candidates.” The story said, “In stark contrast to Mr. Romney, Mr. McCain seems to be universally liked and respected by the other Republican contenders, even if they disagree with him.”

The evidence to support that claim came entirely from quotes from present or former McCain aides.

While McCain clearly has formidable supporters, and his stand on the Iraq war was admirable, those who have dealt with him over the years have been appalled by his outbursts of temper, a character trait the media have largely ignored.

In endorsing Romney, Republican Sen. Thad Cochran of Mississippi, who has known McCain for more than three decades, said his choice was prompted partly by his fear of how McCain might behave in the Oval Office.

“The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine,” Cochran said about McCain. “He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper, and he worries me.”

“He [McCain] would disagree about something and then explode,” said former Sen. Bob Smith, a fellow Republican who served with McCain on various committees. “[There were] incidents of irrational behavior. We’ve all had incidents where we have gotten angry, but I’ve never seen anyone act like that.”

Defending his bill to give amnesty to illegal aliens, McCain unleashed a tirade on Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, who had voiced concerns about the number of judicial appeals illegal immigrants could file under the proposed legislation.

“F*** you!” McCain said to his fellow senator. “I know more about this than anybody else in the room!” McCain shouted.

“People who disagree with him get the f*** you,” said former Rep. John LeBoutillier, a New York Republican who had an encounter with McCain when he was on a POW task force in the House. “I think he is mentally unstable and not fit to be president.”

Andrew H. “Andy” Card Jr., President Bush’s former chief of staff, told me he has observed McCain’s outbursts.

“Sometimes he was pretty angry, but I felt as if he was putting on a show,” Card said. “I don’t know if it was an emotional eruption or it was for effect," Card said.

Democrat Paul Johnson, the former mayor of Phoenix, saw McCain’s temper up close. “His volatility borders in the area of being unstable,” Johnson has said. “Before I let this guy put his finger on the button, I would have to give considerable pause.”

When I appeared on Tucker Carlson's MSNBC show to discuss Newsmax’s disclosures about McCain’s temper, Carlson said on the air, “We got a call earlier tonight from McCain’s Senate office suggesting that we not do this story. [They were] annoyed about it.”

That hint at intimidation is another reason why major media outlets may think twice about revealing what they know of McCain’s temper, which is widely whispered about in Washington. Yet along with track record, such clues to character are a compass to how a president will conduct his presidency.

Over and over, voters have ignored warning signs of poor character and have overlooked track records, only to regret it once a president enters the White House and becomes corrupted by the power of the office.

When he was a candidate for vice president, Richard Nixon became embroiled in an ethics issue when the New York Post revealed he had secretly accepted $18,000 from private contributors to defray his expenses. It should have come as no surprise that he would end up being driven from office by the scandal known as Watergate.

If we elect a candidate with McCain’s monumental character flaws, we can expect to suffer the consequences.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2008; arizona; elections; johnmccain; manchurian; mccain; romney; santorum
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1 posted on 01/29/2008 6:57:24 AM PST by VU4G10
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To: VU4G10

2 posted on 01/29/2008 6:59:50 AM PST by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: VU4G10

“Sometimes he was pretty angry, but I felt as if he was putting on a show,” Card said. “I don’t know if it was an emotional eruption or it was for effect,” Card said.

I guess a polished, temperamental, easy-going guy is better than someone who admires the late bombastic Teddy Roosevelt.


3 posted on 01/29/2008 7:00:43 AM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: VU4G10
McCain's reality is anything he wants it to be, AND HOW DARE YOU CHALLENGE HIM! MAYBE YOU STOLE THE STRAWBERRIES!
4 posted on 01/29/2008 7:00:52 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Amnesty! Taxes! Censorship! Jihadi Rights! Gay Marriage! NY Times Endorsed! McCain!)
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To: VU4G10

If we elect the unstable McCain, the Panderer Huckabee, the flip flopper Romney or the liberal Rudy we are screwed.

In other words, we are screwed.


5 posted on 01/29/2008 7:01:18 AM PST by pissant (Time for a CONSERVATIVE party)
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To: VU4G10

How true! How scary that he might win the nomination and then assure Hillary’s win. Imagine him and Hillary standing next to one another: This little guy will make Hillary look relatively attractive, calm, dignified, normal, and healthy. The loyal and wronged wife next to the nasty adulterer. If the media could spin President Bush’s ages old DUI, imagine what they could do with John McCain’s long list of scandals.


7 posted on 01/29/2008 7:03:03 AM PST by apocalypto
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To: VU4G10
“People who disagree with him get the f*** you,” said former Rep. John LeBoutillier, a New York Republican who had an encounter with McCain when he was on a POW task force in the House. “I think he is mentally unstable and not fit to be president.”

Rick Santorum has nothing good to say about him either. I won't vote for McCain because I question his sanity and stability. Even if it means a Clinton Presidency...that's why I say we need to stop him NOW.

GO MITT GO!!!

8 posted on 01/29/2008 7:03:21 AM PST by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: VU4G10

John McCain is on the brink of becoming the Republican nominee for President. I know that if there is a conservative on the ballot this November I will vote for them, but who will that be? What a mess.


9 posted on 01/29/2008 7:03:44 AM PST by devere
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To: Vaquero; All

MUST SEE ABOUT McCAIN’s temper and the way he treats his collegues.

http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/news/presidential_briefing/?p=161

:
THE
MCCAIN WAY

ATTACK REPUBLICANS
A Top 10 List…
Also:

Every year, the congressional staffers vote for congressmen. Here’s what McCain earns from those who have to work around him.

Show Horse

1. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.)

2. John McCain (R-Ariz.)

3. Joseph Biden (D-Del.)

Getting votes from both sides, the New Yorker is the subject of the old joke: The most dangerous place in DC is between Chuck Schumer and a TV camera.

Hottest Temper

1. Ted Stevens (R-Alaska)

2. John McCain (R-Ariz.)

3. Barbara Mikulski (D-Md.)

Stevens, known for wearing an Incredible Hulk tie to intimidate friend and foe, and McCain, known to snap at staff when the cameras are off,

Worst Follower

1. Lincoln Chafee (R-R.I.)

2. John McCain (R-Ariz.)

3. Joe Lieberman (D-Conn.)

Chafee’s the most liberal member of the GOP. Close behind are McCain, a little less of a maverick as 2008 nears, and Lieberman, a Bush ally on the Iraq war,

So every election year we survey top aides on both sides of the aisle—administrative assistants, press secretaries, legislative directors, and chiefs of committee staffs—to get their up-close and personal, and anonymous, views.

This year, we sent out some 1,700 ballots and received back a nearly identical number of Democratic and Republican responses. For each we donate $1 to a charity: So Others Might Eat or the Metropolitan Police Boys and Girls Clubs.

Our survey shows that while there may be lots of partisan backbiting among the senators and House members, their staffers seem far more capable of putting politics aside and making honest judgments. It wasn’t unusual for aides in both parties to name one of their own as “spineless” or give the “workhorse” nod to someone across the aisle.

http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/mediapolitics/1666.html

JOHN MCCAIN WILL GIVE US AMNESTY FOR OVER 20 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS.

MCCAIN CALLED IT AMNESTY before the American public put him in his place.

McCain called plan ‘AMNESTY’ in 2003

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59567

But in a May 28, 2003, press conference in Tucson, the Arizona senator said Congress should pass a guest-worker program that includes “amnesty” for illegal workers in the U.S.

“I think we can set up a program where amnesty is extended to a certain number of people,” McCain said. “Amnesty has to be an important part, because there are people who have lived in this country for 20, 30 or 40 years, who have raised children here and pay taxes here and are not citizens.”

“He used the word,” noted GOP rival Gov. Mitt Romney during the Fox debate, referring to amnesty.

05/18/2007 -— How soon we forget.....

“During a meeting Thursday on immigration legislation, McCain and Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) got into a shouting match when Cornyn started voicing concerns about the number of judicial appeals that illegal immigrants could receive, according to multiple sources — both Democrats and Republicans — who heard firsthand accounts of the exchange from lawmakers who were in the room.

At a bipartisan gathering in an ornate meeting room just off the Senate floor, McCain complained that Cornyn was raising petty objections to a compromise plan being worked out between Senate Republicans and Democrats and the White House. He used a curse word associated with chickens and accused Cornyn of raising the issue just to torpedo a deal.

Things got really heated when Cornyn accused McCain of being too busy campaigning for president to take part in the negotiations, which have gone on for months behind closed doors. “Wait a second here,” Cornyn said to McCain. “I’ve been sitting in here for all of these negotiations and you just parachute in here on the last day. You’re out of line.”

McCain, a former Navy pilot, then used language more accustomed to sailors (not to mention the current vice president, who made news a few years back after a verbal encounter with Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont).

“[Expletive] you! I know more about this than anyone else in the room,” shouted McCain at Cornyn. McCain helped craft a bill in 2006 that passed the Senate but couldn’t be compromised with a House bill that was much tougher on illegal immigrants.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1836042/posts?page=1

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/moonbatcentral/2005/03/john-mccain-gets-soros-cash.html


10 posted on 01/29/2008 7:04:58 AM PST by AuntB (" DON'T LET THE PRESS PICK YOUR CANDIDATE!" Mrs. Duncan Hunter 1/5/08)
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To: VU4G10
From the article:

But no candidate in this race has gone so far as to baldly fabricate what another candidate has said, as McCain did over the weekend.

Hillary did that with Barack Obama--deliberately distorting what he said about Reagan.

11 posted on 01/29/2008 7:07:10 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: VU4G10

12 posted on 01/29/2008 7:07:26 AM PST by sourcery (Electile Disfunction: The inability to get excited about any of the available candidates)
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To: VU4G10

How many threads do we need to get going on this today????

Unreal!


13 posted on 01/29/2008 7:07:28 AM PST by JFC (I am now a MITTEN.. and Teddy OWNS Obama)
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To: VU4G10

I can understand the MSM pushing a McCain candidacy, but what’s with so much of the Republican establishment pushing this misfit?

If McCain gets the nomination, I’m thinking of sending the RNC a copy of my (new) Constitution Party membership with the words “Sic Semper Tyrannus” written across it in large red letters.


14 posted on 01/29/2008 7:09:26 AM PST by claudiustg (You know it. I know it. I'm optiMITTstic!)
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Stephen King wrote a book about McCain in 1983.

He called him Greg Stillson.

15 posted on 01/29/2008 7:09:28 AM PST by Jakarta ex-pat
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To: VU4G10

“Over and over, voters have ignored warning signs of poor character and have overlooked track records, only to regret it once a president enters the White House and becomes corrupted by the power of the office.”

And that says it all.


16 posted on 01/29/2008 7:09:38 AM PST by keepitreal
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To: beer
"Ladies and gentlemen, the president of the United States of America."

17 posted on 01/29/2008 7:10:16 AM PST by evets (beer)
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To: pissant
Since Romney's forte is economics and maneuvering in a RAT-infested swamp like Massachusetts....I'm prepared to settle with your scenario of imperfects.

After all....It's The Economy, Stupid!" will be the central theme.

18 posted on 01/29/2008 7:10:18 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: VU4G10

This is why I call him Capt. Queeg!


19 posted on 01/29/2008 7:10:33 AM PST by NCBraveheart
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To: VU4G10

It’s quite possible the Florida voters are electing Hillary as President today.


20 posted on 01/29/2008 7:12:12 AM PST by bigjoesaddle ("By Grabthar's hammer......what a savings")
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To: Vaquero

Somebody showed McQueeg the Queen of Diamonds and whispered Islamofascism.


21 posted on 01/29/2008 7:13:47 AM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: Vaquero
Defending his bill to give amnesty to illegal aliens, McCain unleashed a tirade on Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, who had voiced concerns about the number of judicial appeals illegal immigrants could file under the proposed legislation.

“F*** you!” McCain said to his fellow senator. “I know more about this than anybody else in the room!” McCain shouted.


McCain is a liar!

He lacks the temperament for being President.

I can’t imagine why anyone would vote for this LIBERAL. He lacks self control. He is LEFT on the issues and he’s just too old. His track record is atrocious.

22 posted on 01/29/2008 7:14:43 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Vaquero
In endorsing Romney, Republican Sen. Thad Cochran of Mississippi, who has known McCain for more than three decades, said his choice was prompted partly by his fear of how McCain might behave in the Oval Office.

“The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine,” Cochran said about McCain. “He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper, and he worries me.”

“He [McCain] would disagree about something and then explode,” said former Sen. Bob Smith, a fellow Republican who served with McCain on various committees. “[There were] incidents of irrational behavior. We’ve all had incidents where we have gotten angry, but I’ve never seen anyone act like that.”


Yes, like a LIBERAL his emotions get the better of him leading to bad policy. He has a track record of BAD policy and lying about Mitt.

23 posted on 01/29/2008 7:16:50 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: VU4G10

McCain’s Hispanic outreach director is a former Mexican official (!) with dual citizenship (!). He’s an advocate of open borders and non-assimilation:

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YmI4OGJhMjE2Y2ZkYzU5ODNiNGQ3ZTE1MjJiY2EwZTg=&w=MA==

McCain is the enemy. Period.


24 posted on 01/29/2008 7:19:19 AM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: apocalypto

25 posted on 01/29/2008 7:22:01 AM PST by Bear_Slayer (When liberty is outlawed only outlaws will have liberty.)
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To: VU4G10

Hillary would be more evil and more anti-American, but McCain would be more insane... and more out to slit the throats of conservatives.


26 posted on 01/29/2008 7:23:39 AM PST by samtheman
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To: VU4G10

Unstable, no. Emotional, yes.


27 posted on 01/29/2008 7:25:16 AM PST by Kirkwood
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To: VU4G10

McIdiot is his name and screwing Bush is his game.


28 posted on 01/29/2008 7:27:59 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: pissant
>If we elect the unstable McCain, the Panderer Huckabee, the flip flopper Romney or the liberal Rudy we are screwed.<

One of these men, or Obama or Hillary, will eventually become CIC. Which candidate from among these six will be the best leader in our nation's life-and-death struggle against Islamo-Fascism?

The bottom line:

"None of the above" is simply not an option. Anybody who cops out will thereby forfeit his right to be taken seriously.

29 posted on 01/29/2008 7:28:26 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: VU4G10

Brokered Convention Bump


30 posted on 01/29/2008 7:28:55 AM PST by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: All

Lately, during all this back and forth between john and Mitt, I’ve noticed johns laughing alot.. Seems very forced and slightly ...wierd, as if he’s laughing to keep from blowing up.


31 posted on 01/29/2008 7:30:10 AM PST by CygnusXI (Where's that dang Meteor already?)
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To: pissant

Still holding a grudge ehhh pissant!


32 posted on 01/29/2008 7:32:13 AM PST by ontap (Just another backstabbing conservative)
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To: VU4G10

"What, me unstable?"

33 posted on 01/29/2008 7:33:13 AM PST by OB1kNOb (What a sad state of GOP affairs it has come to, picking a candidate as the lesser evil.)
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To: VU4G10
"John McCain’s false charge that Mitt Romney favored a set timetable for withdrawing from Iraq underscores how disastrous a McCain presidency would be." ..... Ronald Kessler

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ABC'S ROBIN ROBERTS: "Do you believe that there should be a timetable in withdrawing the troops?"

ROMNEY: "Well, there's no question that the president and Prime Minister al-Maliki have to have a series of timetables and milestones that they speak about. But those shouldn't be for public pronouncement. You don't want the enemy to understand how long they have to wait in the weeds until you're going to be gone.

*********

"how long they have to wait in the weeds until you're going to be gone."

"......until you're going to be gone."

"......be gone."

"...... gone."

As in ".... the hell outta there"

Can you please explain to us, Mr. Kessler, the diffrence in the English language between :

"how long they have to wait in the weeds until you're going to be gone."

and

"how long they have to wait until our withdrawal."

34 posted on 01/29/2008 7:33:38 AM PST by Polybius
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To: Kirkwood
Unstable, no.

So you know him better than the sources quoted above? -- most of whom say he is "unstable."

35 posted on 01/29/2008 7:37:46 AM PST by vox_freedom
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To: VU4G10
Here are the Senators who voted against the Cornyn amendment , which would have established a permanent bar for gang members, terrorists, and other criminals looking to snag a shamnesty visa. Republicans underlined:

Never forget McCain not only pushed the amnesty bill, he refused to allow exclusions for the worst of the lot. And he unloaded his infamous temper on his mild-mannered senate colleague for having the audacity to introduce this amendment.

Apologies to any who feel I am spamming this message on campaign threads, but it is an important message on a key vote which needs to get out.

36 posted on 01/29/2008 7:44:02 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: VU4G10

Wait, the article said that Romney supported a timetable, and Romney said that the US and Iraqi governments should set a timetable and not tell anyone else about it. So, he did say there should be a timetable. If McCain’s plan is to stay as long as necessary, the Romney’s plan can be contrasted with his by saying that Romney supports a timetable for withdrawl.

That’s really different from saying that your kid was jogging six blocks from the WTC when it got hit, when your kid wasn’t there. But the article seems to say that McCain’s charaterizing his opponents statement in a way most beneficial to McCain is the same as making up a story from whole cloth. It just isn’t.

As to whether McCain has a short fuse, or is clinicaly insane, I can’t say. I don’t know the guy. (I doubt it, because he’s gotten posting in the Senate that I think they’s have kept him away from.) But this article starts with a faulty premise, and then uses that to somehow call into question his temperment or sanity.


37 posted on 01/29/2008 7:44:51 AM PST by NYFriend
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To: CygnusXI

The stress of the campaign is getting to him. He flubbed a response to voters in FL yesterday. It was a clip telling his audience that Romney was a flip-flopper and part of this response was posted all over the MSM yesterday. What the MSM neglected to show was McCain’s complete response (FOX News did today) and it shows him stumbling and bumbling, searching for his words. It made him look completely out to lunch.

Just a little more pressure, and thar’ she blows!


38 posted on 01/29/2008 7:47:11 AM PST by khnyny (2008: A Space Odyssey/ Clintons=HAL)
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To: CygnusXI
I have noticed the same thing about McCain.

He is laughing a forced laugh and seems to be thinking of things like that McCain/Shriver incident (March of 2000) and how it looked to America.

If elected POTUS they will undoubtably need a rubber, sound proof room with no phones (right next to the Oval Office) he can be put in until he gets his meds.

39 posted on 01/29/2008 7:48:46 AM PST by G.Mason (And what is intelligence if not the craft of out-thinking our adversaries?)
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To: VU4G10
Ronald Kessler gets the prize but FReepers beat him to that analysis long ago.
40 posted on 01/29/2008 7:51:15 AM PST by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: NYFriend
'If we surrender and wave a white flag, like Senator Clinton wants to do, and withdraw, as Gov. Romney wanted to do, then there will be chaos, genocide, and the cost of American blood and treasure would be dramatically higher.”

Seems extremely dishonest to me. What about McCain's statement there don't you understand?
41 posted on 01/29/2008 7:52:06 AM PST by khnyny (2008: A Space Odyssey/ Clintons=HAL)
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To: VU4G10

Senator McNasty on full display!


42 posted on 01/29/2008 7:52:13 AM PST by ReleaseTheHounds ("You ask, 'What is our aim?' I can answer in one word: VICTORY - victory - at all costs...")
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To: VU4G10

Great. Repubs are bitterly split between McCain and Romney, just like the Dems are split over Obama and Clinton. The end result is that unless we decide on a Republican candidate and support that candidate, we get Hillary for 8 years!

I don’t like either Romney or McCain. But they still dominate Cliton and Obama.


43 posted on 01/29/2008 7:55:07 AM PST by whitedog57
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To: pissant
If we elect the unstable McCain, the Panderer Huckabee, the flip flopper Romney or the liberal Rudy we are screwed. In other words, we are screwed.

Exactly. I am despondent. Romney actually seems to me to be the one to deserve both flip flopper AND panderer labels, but it doesn't matter.

44 posted on 01/29/2008 8:00:23 AM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: ontap
Still holding a grudge ehhh pissant!

Sure is. Wait until the general election with Romney vs Hitlery or OOBBBAAAMMMAAA.

45 posted on 01/29/2008 8:04:32 AM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: VU4G10
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46 posted on 01/29/2008 8:08:35 AM PST by Pistolshot (Those with a lively sense of curiosity learn something new every day of their lives.)
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To: nmh
Although I have a number of questions about Romney, he is to the right of McCain/Huckabee. McCain is out of the question as his amnesty votes and mental state reveal. I do not know if Romney can defeat Hillary but he has a far better chance than McCain.

Voters take into account not only issues but other traits - to varying degree - ranging from important to trivial. To the best of my recollection, below are eleven of them and I added immigration/amnesty issue. IMHO, Romney rates better on every point that Hillary. McCain rates the same or worse than Hillary.

1. Experience
2. Character
3. Health
4. Appearance
5. Presidential comportment
6. Likability
7. Character of spouse
8. Personal family life
9. Washington insider
10. Donors/supporters
11. Scandals
12. Immigration/amnesty

47 posted on 01/29/2008 8:13:11 AM PST by Dante3
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To: Vaquero

If McCain is the GOP nominee, I’ll vote FOR HILLARY. No kidding, it’s the only way we could have a chance to win back the Congress and stop her.


48 posted on 01/29/2008 8:15:25 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: pissant

Maybe not yet.


49 posted on 01/29/2008 8:15:32 AM PST by Dante3
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To: 1Old Pro

don’t look now, but it looks like Barack Hussein Obama may be the Dim nominee.


50 posted on 01/29/2008 8:18:24 AM PST by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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