Skip to comments.The Base is Wrong About the Gang of 14
Posted on 01/30/2008 7:19:07 AM PST by ECM
When conservatives lay out their long list of apostasies committed by John McCain, one of them is always his role in the Gang of 14, the 7 Democrats and 7 Republicans in the Senate who agreed to a judicial compromise in 2005. The deal that was struck eliminated the use of the "nuclear option" by the then-GOP-controlled Senate, and also limited the Democratic minority's ability to use the filibuster to block certain judicial nominees (at the time the deal was stuck, there were no pending Supreme Court nominations, only Appellate Court nominations were being held up).
To put it plainly, the critics of the deal are flat out wrong. Conservatives should thank John McCain and the other Senators who were part of the Gang of 14 for getting three Appeals Court nominees who had been held up, Janice Rogers Brown, William Pryor, and Priscilla Owen, approved quickly and Brett Kavanaugh approved a bit later, and for Samuel Alito making it onto the Supreme Court without a filibuster blocking his way. And they should thank John McCain for preserving for the Republican Party the use of the filibuster on judicial nominations that might be made by a Democratic President beginning in 2009 or later.
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If I could speak spanish I would tell you in spanish, NO I WONT! Now that McCain needs us, its our turn to show him how we can be mavericks.
He won’t get to the WH with my help.
McCain has been stabbing conservatives in the back for years. Now he wants our support? I can’t say what I’d like to say, in polite company here, but suffice to say all I can muster is one long stream of curse words - many of them new and original and which I have invented just for McLame.
Either of the lousy RINOS will accomplish more harm than the screeching Harpy.
How did the 'gang of 14' violate the constitution? I realize that you are saying fillibustering where Advise & Consent is supposed to take place was a violation (and I concur). But the 'gang of 14' was put together as a 'peaceful' way to stop the fillibustering from happening.
Maybe I'm missing something here, so please enlighten me.
“Either of the lousy RINOS will accomplish more harm than the screeching Harpy.”
good lord how do you figure that?
You can be certain that McCain did not do it to help the conservatives. He’s not a conservative.
Some of the nominees were appointed three years ago! Frist was going nuclear and the leftists were scared. Backstabbing McCain didn’t want conservative justices so he came to the leftists rescue. He threw Bush a bone, gave the conservatives the finger, and preserved the leftists obstruction. To date one third of the judgeships on the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals are VACANT! The credit is all due McCain!
Simple. The Gang of 14 stopped the Nuclear Option from being put in place, which in turn leaves the Executive appointments filibuster still in place as a Dim option.
And THAT is the unvarnished bottom line.
After about two months, the entire nation will grit their teeth every time the beast howls. She’ll get no where.
Frauds in elephant costumes will just cruise right along, installing universal health care/socialized medicine, granting amnesty to the invading hordes, all the good stuff.
And idiots will cheer them on.
ah i see your rationale
i thought you meant in terms of policy or something
I’d say something....but we’re within the free speech blackout period.
Every judge deserves a vote. Conservatives rightly do not typically filibuster judges. McCain preserved the leftist tool to block conservative appointments. And, it worked, unfortunately.
True, but I can't see handing this election to liberal creeps in the other party, who we disagree with more. Remember that. This is going to be a hold your nose and pick your poison election. Sending messages to the Republican party has always cost us in the long run. They don't respond to threats.
Where we can have the biggest impact is supporting real conservatives in primaries for House and Senate seats and carrying it thru to the general election. This will work to move the Republican party back to the right of center.
On the positive side, our left wingnuts will probably appoint some of their buddies in the house and senate to cabinet spots and other jobs causing them to have to find replacements (through appointments and special elections). Those are the spots we have to go after to ensure we get real conservatives.
New tagline bump.
Looks like me and the Maytag repair guy will be pretty lonely on November 4 as we both sit home with nothing to do.
No, you’ll probably have a lot of company. I may leave briefly to vote for other things on the ballot, but will definitely skip the top spot if McCain is on it.
There are toooo many purveyors of deceit and deception to number these day.
Speak for yourself...no wait, you are, and yes indeed you are [wrong]. Did you read the article? How about the last three paragraphs? Do you really think, that if the Republicans had pushed to change Senate rules, over-riding any chance for a minority party (which the Republicans are now) to filibuster a nominee which they loathed enough, that the Democrats would agree to change the rules back, when they hold the majority?
The only difference is, Republicans rarely in the past blocked appointments by filibuster. The Jack-ass party did it all the time.
What if we lose the White House? It's possible this election cycle. Would you really want nominees selected by the Marxist witch to, each and every one of them, need only face a "Party line" dominated, up or down vote?
That's what this is about, in part. The other part, the first part, has already been accomplished!
We got some (many of them significant) of the nomineees seated as judges.
Meanwhile, the Rat party dominated Senate, has been dragging their feet on Circuit Court level nominees, throwing the U.S. Courts into scheduling turmoil, while they wait for her thighness to be coronated...
Should we pin that one on McCain, too?
Same policy all around.
I’d rather the enemy be clear and obvious. It makes them weaker.
The traitor is far more dangerous.