Skip to comments.Romney the Red-Mitt Mormon
Posted on 01/30/2008 9:22:08 AM PST by littlehouse36
Not bitter, are you?
Oh Mitt with your pandering,
What truly do you believe?
Is it forced RomneyCare,
Or billions for Detroit?
That was really bad on many levels.
I have said before Mitt has the potential to be another Reagan.
Actually, not so bad ... there are waaayyyy too many anti-Romneys on this board ... relative newbies, one issue-ers ... really down on Mitt ... almost makes me want to vote for him.
It’s Christmas again, already?
Man, I read the title and thought someone was calling Romney a Communist.
Well, I am not new, but I AM anti-Romney.
Of course, I am also anti-Rudy, anti-McCain, and anti-the-crazy-guy whose name I forget.
Generally disgusted with the lot of them.
Actually the same can be said about most of the Republican candidates including all those who have dropped out. I have good reasons for not wanting Romney to be president none of which have anything to do with his decency (unless you think distrusting him reflects on that).
I'm reminded of the (former) member who said: "I don't know who this JimRob is but he sounds like a nut case".
One of the funnier posts I have seen at F.R.
Mine doesn’t rhyme. But it does expose Chet, or Biff, or Mitt or whatever his name is:
Everywhere McCain has been less than conservative, Romney is on record as just as bad (usually much worse):
McCain introduced McCain-Feingold. Romney supported measures stricter than McCain Feingold before his run for president, source below:
McCain supported embryonic stem cell research, which is evil, and falls for the old incest ploy, but has otherwise been staunchly pro-life. Romney supported stem cell research, taxpayer funded abortion, abortion by minors without consent of parents, and all MA abortion law (sources below).
McCain has occasionally buckled on Gun rights, but Romney is FAR worse:
Romney talks about Reagan now (who endorsed John McCain for Senator btw), but he was not a Reagan republican in the 80s, but a self-described independant:
Romney supported Gay rights (link below, but hold your nose, its a log cabin republicans site so I excerpted it for you):
All citizens deserve equal rights, regardless of their sexual orientation. While he does not support gay marriage, Mitt Romney believes domestic partnership status should be recognized in a way that includes the potential for health benefits and rights of survivorship.
- Romneys 2002 campaign website
Mitt and Kerry Wish You a Great Pride Weekend! All citizens deserve equal rights, regardless of their sexual preference
- A flier handed out at Gay Pride by the Romney/Healey Campaign See the flier here
We have discussed a number of important issues such as the Federal Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA), which I have agreed to co-sponsor, and if possible broaden to include housing and credit, and a bill to create a federal panel to find ways to reduce gay and lesbian youth suicide, which I also support. One issue I want to clarify concerns [grammar in context] President Clintons dont ask, dont tell, dont pursue military policy. I believe that the Clinton compromise was a step in the right direction. I am also convinced that it is the first of a number of steps that will ultimately lead to gays and lesbians being able to serve openly and honestly in our nations military. That goal will only be reached when preventing discrimination against gays and lesbians is a mainstream concern, which is a goal we share
- Governor Romney letter to Log Cabin Republicans, October 6, 1994
McCain overplayed Romneys comments on timetables, but McCain was taking serious flack for pushing for a troop surge while Romney undeniably hedged on the surge:
Romney has also had a Road to Damasus, I mean Pennsylvania avenue, conversion on immigration:
In a November 2005 interview with the Globe, Romney described immigration proposals by McCain and others as quite different from amnesty, because they required illegal immigrants to register with the government, work for years, pay taxes, not take public benefits, and pay a fine before applying for citizenship.
Thats very different than amnesty, where you literally say, OK, everybody here gets to stay, Romney said in the interview. Its saying you could work your way into becoming a legal resident of the country by working here without taking benefits and then applying and then paying a fine.
Romney did not specifically endorse McCains bill, saying he had not yet formulated a full position on immigration. But he did speak approvingly of efforts by McCain and Bush to solve the nations immigration crisis, calling them reasonable proposals.
Romney also said in the interview that it was not practical or economic for the country to deport the estimated 12 million immigrants living in the US illegally. These people contribute in many cases to our economy and to our society, he said. In some cases, they do not. But thats a whole group were going to have to determine how to deal with.
And lastly, tax cuts:
he did not support the Bush tax cuts and won the praise of Barney Frank for not doing so!
Ron Reagan, Jr., that is.
Why not? Is he somehow above American political tradition? Is he better somehow? Politics are dirty. If he can't stand the heat, is he prepared to be president of the most powerful nation on the planet and all that entails?
The man loves his wife, loves his family, loves his country and is trying to serve it in a way he thinks will be helpful.
As nice as that is, none of that qualifies him to do anything. Lots of people love their spouse. It qualifies them for nothing.
If you do not want to vote for him that is fine. But this is not the kind of American we need to be tearing down at this time in our history.
I disagree. I think we need to know if our candidates have what it takes to do the job. That includes asking them hard questions about their past ideas and demanding answers. Wanting to be president is not enough. Having the money to finance your own campaign is not enough. Having a pretty wife is not enough. Going to church every week is not enough. It takes more than those things to be a tough, effective leader at this time in history.
It takes internal fortitude, a willingness to stand tough and be strong. It takes an internal compass that doesn't change with the political winds. Mitt Romney is lacking in those areas and it is very much in keeping with American tradition to point out his many shortcomings.
The American voter should not be impressed because someone has stayed married or has a nice wife or has enough money to run for election. We don't give out presidencies for that. We need to know much more, and the process is dirty. Why do so many Romney supporters demand special treatment for their candidate? Isn't he tough enough to take it?
Even if I have reluctantly come to the conclusion that Mitt is the only candidate left who is supportable, I still support him with a lot of trepidation and belief that I will likely be greatly disappointed in the result. Thus, the kind of cheerleader stuff that we might enjoy for Thompson or Hunter doesn’t do it for me when it is done for Romney. It’s more like a chore to vote for Romney than a pastime.
Ron Reagan, Jr., that is.
Well said. Very funny.
Reading this made me think (a) someone took a lot of time doing this, and (b) the sentiment is wasted.
Seriously, our choices are McCain and Romney? Sad.
Mitt is a decent man who does not deserve to be called names. He loves his wives, he loves his money, he loves his own reflection in the mirror.
Get on the McCain Train people!!!!!!!!!!!
Your tagline is great. I feel the exact same way, but fall (with equal enthusiasm) in the McCain camp.
No candidate is perfect - each vote we make is either a compromise or a nose-holding vote against the worse of two choices.
But when it comes down to a choice between McCain and Romney I do not see how any rational Reagan Republican or Conservative can pick McCain.
I think a lot of rabid anti-Romney people are making a big mistake by tearing down the only viable McCain stopper left.
Hasn’t McCain hurt the country enough already?
In the final analysis the best back up move is to vote out the Washington insiders.
Romney & McCain are both very decent men, both with liberal pasts and conservative platforms.
I would support either in the general election.
“Get on the McCain Train people!!!!!!!!!!!”
I’m on the McCain Train next week. But McCain already takes his base for granted; the last thing he needs is a landslide on Big Tuesday.
“Reading this made me think (a) someone took a lot of time doing this, and (b) the sentiment is wasted.”
The lyrics came in a matter of minutes. It was getting that dang mitten on Rudolph that took so long.
My sentiment is really a desire to see Mitt’s millions become votes, and something of a mandate for McCain. McCain gave a humble speech last night (about the closeness of the race) and I’d to see that attitude continue.
Kerry is a flip flopper and he was never on the ‘right’ side. Poor quality assumption on your part.
To vote for McCain, I would have to hold my nose, cover my mouth and close my eyes, and that would cause me to suffocate in the dark. He would lose in a mammoth landslide, so I would use the opportunity to try to build a conservative party from the rubble, either through the existing infrastructure of the GOP, as Reagan did in 1976, or in a new party, as Lincoln did in 1856.