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Vimy's new enemy: no uniform, no clothes, no respect (French scum disrespecting heroes)
The Telegraph-Journal ^ | January 30th, 2008 | Rob Linke

Posted on 01/30/2008 5:28:44 PM PST by buccaneer81

Vimy's new enemy: no uniform, no clothes, no respect Exhibitionism Veterans minister deterring public sex at memorial

Rob Linke TELEGRAPH-JOURNAL Published Wednesday January 30th, 2008 Appeared on page A1

OTTAWA - More than 90 years after Canadian soldiers seized Vimy Ridge, Veterans Affairs Minister Greg Thompson is still part of a battle - this one to protect Canada's iconic memorial from kinky French couples.

Vimy's new enemy are exhibitionists who pose nude or have sex at the First World War memorial, then post pictures of their activities online.

Some images have the names of thousands of Canadian war dead, carved in the base of the towering monument, as their backdrop.

Thompson said Veterans Affairs is doing everything in its power to deter the behaviour.

"It is shocking," Thompson said Tuesday. "We've had desecration of war monuments in Canada before and it's never acceptable.

"This is something no government will tolerate."

Monday, a French court sentenced one couple from Paris for sexual exhibitionism on the grounds of the 250-acre site last summer.

The couple was fined 150 Euros ($220 Cdn) and given a one-month conditional sentence, which means they will be jailed for 30 days if they reoffend within five years.

Veterans Affairs hired a French lawyer to represent it in court as an aggrieved party.

"We wanted to ensure the court understood the importance of Vimy to Canada and the inappropriateness of such actions there," said department spokesperson Janice Summerby.

The department also requested a symbolic one-Euro fine and reimbursement of its court costs of 500 Euros ($740 Cdn).

The case of two more couples caught in November is in the hands of the public prosecutor in nearby Arras. It has not come to trial.

French police have since told Veterans Affairs a third case has occurred, said Summerby.

The department intends to intervene at court every time, she said.

"Hopefully that will serve as a deterrent," she said.

The private company that provides security on site has increased its patrols and other measures are being reviewed, said Summerby.

There have been several incidents of vandalism or mischief that demonstrated disrespect of war memorials in Canada. In one infamous incident in 2006, three men were caught on camera urinating on the National War Memorial in Ottawa. They were later found guilty of mischief.

Veterans Affairs, several other departments and the Ottawa police later adopted several measures, including year-round electronic surveillance, additional security patrols during the tourist season, and more guards and crowd-control equipment at the site during Canada Day and other special events.

In France, the French news service Agence France-Presse said several websites show dozens of sexual voyeurs and exhibitionists using the Vimy site for encounters. One directs others there, boasting of ample parking spots.

The Internet postings have been online for at least seven years, CBC-TV reported.

Summerby said it's her understanding the exhibitionists see it as "a bit of a badge of honour" to post images of their activities in public locations of historic interest.

The Vimy memorial was unveiled in 1936 by King Edward VIII. It is dominated by two tall stone pylons and surrounded by sombre sculptures. The grounds also have restored trenches and are surrounded by woods planted with Canadian trees and shrubs.

More than 500,000 people a year visit the Vimy memorial.

Thompson was at Vimy last April, when thousands of people gathered to mark the 90th anniversary of the Easter, 1917 battle.

Thompson recalled his visit left him impressed that ordinary French citizens still have family stories of their parents or grandparents being liberated from occupying German forces in the "war to end all wars."

One elderly French woman presented him with a rose.

She told him it came from the bush that was the only living thing left on her family's farm after fighting in the First World War.

Four Canadians won the Victoria Cross, the highest decoration for valour in the face of the enemy, for their exploits at Vimy.

Nearly 3,600 Canadians died in the two days of fighting.


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: cheeseeating; french; scum; surrendermonkeys
Unreal. But hey, they love Muzzies.
1 posted on 01/30/2008 5:28:48 PM PST by buccaneer81
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To: fanfan; NorthOf45; GMMAC

PING!


2 posted on 01/30/2008 5:29:55 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81

Every so often public flogging should be instituted.


3 posted on 01/30/2008 5:32:38 PM PST by rmlew (Huckabee flip flops so much it makes Romney cringe)
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To: buccaneer81
Vimy's new enemy: no uniform, no clothes, no respect (French scum disrespecting heroes)

Well of course they're jealous, the French don't have any war heros of their own.

4 posted on 01/30/2008 5:33:19 PM PST by xJones
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To: rmlew
Every so often public flogging should be instituted.

Indeed. I hear Singapore is a very polite place.

5 posted on 01/30/2008 5:37:02 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81

...interesting diversion from lack of western European support for Canada in Afghanistan.


6 posted on 01/30/2008 5:43:46 PM PST by familyop
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To: xJones

Interesting you would say that on a thread regarding a WWI memorial. But not everyone has studied history, I suppose.


7 posted on 01/30/2008 5:45:44 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: buccaneer81

I wonder what it is about this particular monument... some of the place where this happens like The Lenard Skynard grave or the Jim Morrison memorial I can see a connection with sex and drinking... but war heroes? I don’t get it.


8 posted on 01/30/2008 5:48:29 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: xJones

“...the French don’t have any war heros of their own...”

Obviously you have never heard of the battle of Verdun or so many others in WWI where the French lost a generation of fine young men and many many heros.

The problem is not the French. The problem is spoiled brat teens like the Americans who tour France in the summer and carve rock group names into the smooth stone walls within Notre Dame and elsewhere. Just look at the teen and young adult vandalism here.

Even way back when the film TORA TORA TORA first came out my mother was shocked by teens in the theatre laughing at the Americans being killed by the Japanese.


9 posted on 01/30/2008 5:52:14 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: xJones

Read a little about Verdun. The French have plenty of heroes. They just tend to be badly led.


10 posted on 01/30/2008 5:52:33 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: xJones

Maybe these new deracinated French dont know of them. Those of us who remember the poilus who fought and fell at the Marne and Verdun know otherwise.

“Ils ne passeront pas” (they shall not pass) said General Robert Nievelle and 360,000 Frenchmen died following his command.


11 posted on 01/30/2008 5:55:00 PM PST by DMZFrank
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To: buccaneer81

Euro-Trash Girl

Band:Cracker

Well I’ve been up to Paris,
and I’ve slept in a park.
Went down to Barcelona,
someone broke in my car.
And I’ll search the world over
for my angel in black.
Yeah, I’ll search the world over
for a Euro-trash Girl.

Took the train down to Athens,
and I slept in a fountain.
Some Swiss junkie in Turin
ripped me off for my cash.
Yeah, I’ll search the world over
for my angel in black.
Yeah, search the world over
for a Eurotrash Girl.

The CRS on the metro
shook me down for a bribe.
On my knees for the sergeant
when my passport arrived.
Yeah, I’ll search the world over
for my angel in black.
Yeah, I’ll search the world over
for a Euro-trash Girl

Euro-trash Girl, Euro-trash girl.
Euro-trash Girl, Euro-trash girl.

Called my mom from a payphone
I said “I’m down to my last.”
She said “I sent you to college...
now go call your dad.”
And the waitress that he married,
well she hung up the phone.
You know she never did like me,
but I can stand on my own.

Sold my plasma in Amsterdam.
Spent it all in a night,
buying drinks at the Melk Weg
for a soldier in drag.
And I’ll search the world over
for my angel in black.
Yeah, I’ll search the world over
for a Eurotrash Girl

Euro-trash Girl, Euro-trash girl.
Euro-trash Girl, Euro-trash girl.

Yeah, I’ll search the world over
for my angel in black.
Yeah, I’ll search the world over
for a Eurotrash Girl

Got a tattoo in Berlin
and a case of the crabs.
A rose and a dagger
on the palm of my hand.
And I’ll search the world over
for my angel in black.
Yeah, I’ll search the world over
for a Eurotrash Girl.

Euro-trash Girl, Euro-trash girl.
Euro-trash Girl, Euro-trash girl.

Yeah, I’ll search the world over
for my angel in black.
Yeah, I’ll search the world over
for a Eurotrash Girl.


12 posted on 01/30/2008 5:56:17 PM PST by familyop
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To: buccaneer81

Thread.

Useless.

Pics.


13 posted on 01/30/2008 5:58:43 PM PST by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: gondramB
I wonder what it is about this particular monument...

I saw a similar article last week in the Globe and Mail, they attributed it to the location. Suburbs, very large park like area, no lights, no visitors after dark, thus isolation and solitude in an otherwise fairly densely populated area. Plus it is posted on some French sex websites for swingers.

14 posted on 01/30/2008 5:59:21 PM PST by Michael.SF. ("democrat" -- 'one who panders to the crude and mindless whims of the masses " - Joseph J. Ellis)
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To: xJones
“Well of course they’re jealous, the French don’t have any war heros of their own.”

No, but they left theirs at Vimy... and Verdun... and Bir Hakim...

15 posted on 01/30/2008 5:59:38 PM PST by GAB-1955 (Kicking and Screaming into the Kingdom of Heaven!)
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To: 1rudeboy; Monterrosa-24; Bubba Ho-Tep
Interesting you would say that on a thread regarding a WWI memorial. But not everyone has studied history, I suppose.

Yes, you're all right, and I should take back my post. The French lost 1.8 million of their young men in WWI, the highest death number of all the combatants. The carnage was so bad that the French didn't want another war, but they punished Germany so bad in the Versailles Treaty that it wasn't all that surprising that an upstart little monster like Hitler could be possible.

16 posted on 01/30/2008 6:03:11 PM PST by xJones
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To: Michael.SF.

>>I saw a similar article last week in the Globe and Mail, they attributed it to the location. Suburbs, very large park like area, no lights, no visitors after dark, thus isolation and solitude in an otherwise fairly densely populated area. Plus it is posted on some French sex websites for swingers.<<

Aha. Thank you.


17 posted on 01/30/2008 6:23:34 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: xJones
The French lost 1.8 million of their young men in WWI, the highest death number of all the combatants.

A noble tragedy to be sure. They died fighting for their homeland.

But at least as noble and heroic is the sacrifice put forward by foreigners to liberate another's land.

18 posted on 01/30/2008 6:23:38 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: rmlew

But isn’t public flogging the very problem that the Fwench authorities are trying to prevent?


19 posted on 01/30/2008 7:00:14 PM PST by flowerplough ( Allah, through his prophet and his followers, demands my submission and obedience, or my death.)
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To: GAB-1955
“Well of course they’re jealous, the French don’t have any war heroes of their own.” No, but they left theirs at Vimy... and Verdun... and Bir Hakim...

... And Yorktown... and Dien Bien Phu... They had no shortage of brave soldiers, but had fools for leaders. WWI bled France white, and it is still paying the genetic consequences.

20 posted on 01/30/2008 7:05:15 PM PST by Vietnam Vet From New Mexico (Pray For Our Troops)
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To: buccaneer81; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; Cannoneer No. 4; ...
Many Canadians, myself included, mark the beginning of Canada's evolution as an independent nation from the battle of Vimy Ridge.

Of all the memorials and cenotaphs to Canadian warriors around the world, it is hard to think on any that has a deeper significance to Canadians than this one.

21 posted on 01/30/2008 7:12:59 PM PST by Clive
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To: Clive
Many Canadians, myself included, mark the beginning of Canada's evolution as an independent nation from the battle of Vimy Ridge.

That particular mindset isn't confined to Canadians alone, FRiend Clive. Anyone who knows the signifigance of Vimy Ridge understands that it was indeed, the cusp where Canada became, truly, a nation in it's own right, a right bought in the blood of its sons, in bitter combat to aid another beleagered nation. The symbolism is stark, and that some today cheapen it by such tawdriness is apalling to anyone with a sense of history...

the infowarrior

22 posted on 01/30/2008 7:35:11 PM PST by infowarrior
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To: xJones
Yes,you're all right and I should take back my post.

Your reply needs little further comment.... but nicely put. Your analysis of that terrible Versailles Treaty brings to mind a cartoon in an English newspaper. Many years before WW2 and mentioning the humiliation of a defeated foe. It showed a stork bearing a child and the swaddling cloth dated 1940. It indicated a second world war.

To add to it, the absolute disintegration of the German currency in order to pay reparations. The 50 million mark postage stamp and so on. Germany almost went communist after.

On the cemetery so sacred to Canadians, I think it shows a certain degeneracy. Possibly no backbone, who knows?. Yet, in countless other cemetaries, British, Commonwealth graves are absolutely imaculate in France- I have seen the photographs. I presume the doughboys have their cemeteries well tended. (Over there, over there).

Lastly, the Marshall plan saved Germany. I do not think they remember. No more blood shed for Europe. (Says I).

23 posted on 01/30/2008 7:37:21 PM PST by Peter Libra
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To: infowarrior

Thank you.


25 posted on 01/30/2008 8:06:49 PM PST by Clive
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To: buccaneer81

Ah...l’amour, toujours l’amour.


26 posted on 01/30/2008 8:11:57 PM PST by RichInOC (Stupidity is its own punishment...but some people need an enhanced sentence.)
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To: RichInOC
l’amour has very little to do with it. Lust and impulse are the motivating factors.
27 posted on 01/30/2008 9:59:01 PM PST by Clive
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To: buccaneer81
Many problems can be overcome by proper landscaping.


28 posted on 01/31/2008 4:49:05 AM PST by magslinger (cranky right-winger)
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To: buccaneer81; GMMAC; Clive; exg; kanawa; conniew; backhoe; -YYZ-; Former Proud Canadian; ...

29 posted on 01/31/2008 5:01:43 AM PST by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: buccaneer81
a). What do Muslims have to do with this desecration?

b). Most French do not love 'Muzzies,' a large part of why they do not want Turkey to join the EU.


Bash the relevant people (for this thread) who deserve bashing.

30 posted on 01/31/2008 10:17:12 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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