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Boeing Plans Sixth Generation Fighter With Block 3 Super Hornet
Aviation Week Aerospace Daily and Defense Report ^ | Jan 30, 2008 | David A. Fulghum/

Posted on 01/30/2008 11:19:22 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki

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1 posted on 01/30/2008 11:19:24 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Give it the all-around capability of the F-18/F-14, with the ground attack capability of the A-10.


2 posted on 01/30/2008 11:24:03 PM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

How do you make that stealthy?


3 posted on 01/31/2008 12:12:10 AM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: sukhoi-30mki

They can call it whatever they want, sixth generation, tenth generation, Starship Enterprise. I’ll believe it when I see it.


4 posted on 01/31/2008 12:36:09 AM PST by a_chronic_whiner
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To: a_chronic_whiner

And I believe that, when I see it, it will fly without a pilot in it.


5 posted on 01/31/2008 12:44:39 AM PST by flowerplough ( Allah, through his prophet and his followers, demands my submission and obedience, or my death.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Great for the second tier spender.


6 posted on 01/31/2008 12:52:53 AM PST by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: flowerplough

blended wing maybe?


7 posted on 01/31/2008 1:03:54 AM PST by a_chronic_whiner
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To: sukhoi-30mki

All model-T’s compared to what’s never been disclosed yet . . . but been in the . . . fleet . . . for decades, constantly improved.


8 posted on 01/31/2008 1:37:14 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

OK, the F18 went from Mach 1.8 to Mach 1.6 with after burners... Will the next gen F18 go Mach 1.4?

Meanwhile the JSF, even though it has ineffiencient aerodynamics (with its “heavier than lead” lifter concept) and a canload of contractor subsidies (for its “new-flight” concept and high maintenance when it will fly), can super-cruise.

By the way, the V22 is another odd and costly project that proves however invaluable lately to avoid ground fire and get out of dodge for the Marines in Iraq, despite the naysayers. (I would have prefered a modified Chinook to fly horizontal in a sort of blended body system, a more normal evolution of the traditional flying concepts). But it is about time something like the V22 came out to save our necks, and we must stick to it... to hell or heaven together, else there is no army that stands to call itself an army.

So I think we should stick with JSF and Boeing should move on. Northrope made the same mistake by pulling a F20 Tigershark against the F16.


9 posted on 01/31/2008 2:10:38 AM PST by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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10 posted on 01/31/2008 2:22:02 AM PST by magslinger (cranky right-winger)
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To: Paleo Conservative
How do you make that stealthy?

You walk vewwy, vewwy quietly....
11 posted on 01/31/2008 3:01:50 AM PST by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Super Giga Hornet ?


12 posted on 01/31/2008 3:49:21 AM PST by Rummenigge (there are people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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The idea is that customers could buy 4.5 generation Super Hornets (perhaps 4.75 generation with the planned extra forward stealth and extra range of Block 3 aircraft)

More like a 2.75 generation Super Hornet since it's performance isn't even equivalent to the plane it "replaced" the F-14D.

and a six-plane squadron of EA-18G Growlers.

Whoever proposed that the ALQ-99 be exported should be fired on the spot.

13 posted on 01/31/2008 3:51:58 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: sukhoi-30mki
From the same folks that gave us the "Monica"....


14 posted on 01/31/2008 3:55:12 AM PST by taildragger (The Answer is Fred Thompson, I do not care what the question is.....)
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To: JudgemAll
(I would have prefered a modified Chinook to fly horizontal in a sort of blended body system, a more normal evolution of the traditional flying concepts).

Even a modified Chinook wouldn't meet the JORD and couldn't fit into the hangar bay on a LHA/LHD plus it would still be hampered by retreating blade stall.

else there is no army that stands to call itself an army.

Too bad that that short-sighted army bailed out on the V-22 back in 1983.

15 posted on 01/31/2008 3:55:42 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: sukhoi-30mki

E/F has been crap to date

so what will Bo(ein)gus give us next

crap


16 posted on 01/31/2008 6:02:40 AM PST by jbp1 (be nice now)
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To: JudgemAll
The JSF cannot supercruise, or at least not in the same sense that the F-22 can.

Many aircraft, in clean form, can break Mach without afterburner, including the Eurofighter, but. A clean F-16 can break mach 1.1 without afterburners, but to be considered supercruise you need to be able to sustain Mach 1.5 or above with a normal weapons load.

The F-22 can do this, the F-35 cannot.

17 posted on 01/31/2008 7:02:11 AM PST by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Quix
All model-T’s compared to what’s never been disclosed yet . . . but been in the . . . fleet . . . for decades, constantly improved.

Recent photo of the Boeing F/A-37 undergoing carrier trials:


18 posted on 01/31/2008 7:06:39 AM PST by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
Too bad that that short-sighted army bailed out on the V-22 back in 1983.

What's to stop the Army from jumping back in with checkbook in hand to order a few dozen V-22s? It's already being considered for export sales.

The Army doesn't care about the V-22. They want it's big brother. Something that has the airlift of a C-130, the stealth of the F-22, and the speed and vertical capability of the V-22. The Joint Heavy Lift program.

Good luck with that, guys.

19 posted on 01/31/2008 7:14:44 AM PST by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Yo-Yo

Thannks. Interesting bird.


20 posted on 01/31/2008 7:50:04 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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