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(Forbes) Worst Places: America's Most Miserable Cities
Forbes ^ | 1/30/08 | Kurt Badenhausen

Posted on 01/31/2008 9:39:40 AM PST by MotleyGirl70

Edited on 02/01/2008 2:28:16 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

Imagine living in a city with the country's highest rate for violent crime and the second-highest unemployment rate. As an added kicker you need more Superfund dollars allocated to your city to clean up contaminated toxic waste sites than just about any other metro.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bluezones; charlotte; chicago; cities; detroit; filthydelphia; flint; losangeles; miserablecities; modesto; newyork; providence; stockton; topten; urban
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Rank: City (Misery Score)


No. 1: Detroit, Mich. (696)
No. 2: Stockton, Calif. (689)
No. 3: Flint, Mich. (675)
No. 4: New York, N.Y. (668)
No. 5: Philadelphia, Pa. (648)
No. 6: Chicago, Ill. (634)
No. 7: Los Angeles, Calif. (632)
No. 8: Modesto, Calif. (631)
No. 9: Charlotte, N.C. (625)
No. 10: Providence, R.I. (611)

Shame on you Eagles fans!

How miserable is Philly? The residents of the City of Brotherly Love once booed Santa Claus and pelted him with snowballs at an Eagles game. Maybe it's the long commutes, violent crime and plethora of toxic waste sites that has people grumpy.

1 posted on 01/31/2008 9:39:42 AM PST by MotleyGirl70
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To: MotleyGirl70

Philly is a tough town, even for Santa.


2 posted on 01/31/2008 9:40:42 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: MotleyGirl70

“How miserable is Philly? The residents of the City of Brotherly Love once booed Santa Claus and pelted him with snowballs at an Eagles game.”

As a native of Philly, I can tell you that wasn’t caused by misery rather by idiocy. ;)


3 posted on 01/31/2008 9:41:09 AM PST by Slapshot68
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To: MotleyGirl70

LOL, before I read past the title I knew that Detroit would be in the top ranks.


4 posted on 01/31/2008 9:41:13 AM PST by mrsmel
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To: MotleyGirl70

God Bless Texas!!

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5 posted on 01/31/2008 9:41:37 AM PST by SnakeDoctor
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To: MotleyGirl70

“Unfortunately, this nightmare is a reality for the residents of Detroit. The Motor City grabs the top spot on Forbes’ inaugural list of America’s Most Miserable Cities.”

So much for the liberal urban utopia experiment.


6 posted on 01/31/2008 9:41:47 AM PST by Slapshot68
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To: MotleyGirl70

I’m surprised with Modesto, CA... isn’t that where Chandra Levy and Laci Peterson lived?


7 posted on 01/31/2008 9:42:17 AM PST by SilvieWaldorfMD (Hard lesson learned in the 1980's: "Never perm and dye your hair at the same time")
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To: Red in Blue PA

I’m wondering if Santa wasn’t provocative. Did he come out in rainbow attire to celebrate Gay Pride Day or something?


8 posted on 01/31/2008 9:42:33 AM PST by dangus
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To: MotleyGirl70
I’m frankly pleasantly surprised that Cleveland isn’t in the top ten!
9 posted on 01/31/2008 9:43:27 AM PST by Jagman (Lapdogs rule!)
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To: dangus

>No. 4: New York<

Uh, oh: Forbes v. Bloomberg!


10 posted on 01/31/2008 9:43:34 AM PST by dangus
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To: MotleyGirl70

I was surprised about Charlotte, NC.


11 posted on 01/31/2008 9:43:59 AM PST by Dante3
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To: MotleyGirl70

Charlotte?

Not Boston? Not Miami? Not New Orleans?


12 posted on 01/31/2008 9:44:02 AM PST by ryan71
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To: MotleyGirl70

Charlotte, NC - I knew it would be here before reading the story.


13 posted on 01/31/2008 9:44:35 AM PST by Niteranger68 (Either order from the menu or go open your own restaurant.)
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To: Slapshot68
Are any of those cities not dominated by liberal/left policies? And it's funny that California, the spiritual home of econazis, is noted for its bad quality of air.
14 posted on 01/31/2008 9:45:21 AM PST by mrsmel
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To: Slapshot68

How many years ago was that? I wasn’t alive back then. It kind of irritates me that some stupid incident keeps getting brought up for over 20 years.


15 posted on 01/31/2008 9:45:50 AM PST by Shadow44
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To: MotleyGirl70
This is a joke. Flint and Philly are crime-ridden cesspools losing population, while New York has a record-low crime rate and is gaining people.

How does NYC end up between the other two?

16 posted on 01/31/2008 9:46:07 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: MotleyGirl70

Has New Orleans been granted a recovery exemption or something?


17 posted on 01/31/2008 9:46:29 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Shadow44

Yeah it was a while ago....80s I believe.


18 posted on 01/31/2008 9:47:29 AM PST by Slapshot68
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
Incidentally, that happy place Modesto is also known to its residents as 'Motown'!


19 posted on 01/31/2008 9:47:53 AM PST by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: MotleyGirl70
In lieu of waterboarding...
20 posted on 01/31/2008 9:49:15 AM PST by Dr.Deth
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To: MotleyGirl70

Ed Rendell once paid a kid to throw snowballs at the visiting team.


21 posted on 01/31/2008 9:49:15 AM PST by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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To: MotleyGirl70

Most Miserable Cities.

??? A joke, right? Every one run by the democrat machine.
Nothing further needs be said.


22 posted on 01/31/2008 9:49:27 AM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: MotleyGirl70
"And we did not even factor in air quality, where Los Angeles is the worst in the nation by far..."

Yes, but let's not give the news media a pass for lying. Back in 2000, the news media gleefully repeated a new lie that "Houston had the nation's worst air quality" in their attempts to paint Governor George W. Bush of Texas in a bad light.

23 posted on 01/31/2008 9:49:28 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: MotleyGirl70
And as for misery, nothing tops being a Cubs fan. The team has not won a World Series since 1908, the longest winless streak in baseball.

That makes some of us miserable. For others of us, it is a source of great joy.

24 posted on 01/31/2008 9:49:36 AM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (Mind your own business.)
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To: MotleyGirl70

Hmm...

Out of the top 10 cities for misery, only one, Charlotte, is not in a “blue” state. Count it be that it also is trending “blue”?

Coincidence?


25 posted on 01/31/2008 9:51:25 AM PST by adorno
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To: MotleyGirl70

One thing that is never talked about, but better be talked about if they really want to clean things up, is the ethnic makeup of the cities. Seems everyone is afraid to even mention it.......but it’s reality. Address this problem or give up the big cities.


26 posted on 01/31/2008 9:51:28 AM PST by RC2
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To: MotleyGirl70
I was watching my new favorite show, “The First 48 Hrs.” Even the police station in Detroit was a total dump. We should put our intercontinental nuclear missiles in Detroit. That way if we get nuked, no more Detroit. Kind of a two-fer.
27 posted on 01/31/2008 9:52:59 AM PST by Leisler
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To: MotleyGirl70

Gary?
Newark?


28 posted on 01/31/2008 9:54:09 AM PST by Leisler
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To: adorno
Count it Should be "Can it be"

I have no idea how I got from one to the other. lol
29 posted on 01/31/2008 9:54:37 AM PST by adorno
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To: Slapshot68
As a native of Philly, I can tell you that wasn’t caused by misery rather by idiocy. ;)

No offense, but Filthadelphia is home to the surliest people on the eastern seaboard. People from "Bawlimer" are practically aristocratic compared to "Iggles" fans.

BTW: WTF is up with "hoagies?" I live and work at the midpoint between NY and Philly, so I do get Philly people always telling me how they are going to pick up "hoagies" and put "jimmies" on their ice cream.

30 posted on 01/31/2008 9:54:39 AM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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To: Leisler
We should put our intercontinental nuclear missiles in Detroit. That way if we get nuked, no more Detroit.

Have you been to Detroit? Detroit already looks like it's been nuked. Detroit could be nuked and nobody would be able to tell the difference.

31 posted on 01/31/2008 9:55:16 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Leisler

Newark has its faults, but is nowhere near as bad as Camden (NJ), Chester (PA), or East St. Louis.


32 posted on 01/31/2008 9:55:24 AM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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To: Clemenza

Hoagie=sub...except superior. ;)


33 posted on 01/31/2008 9:55:58 AM PST by Slapshot68
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To: MotleyGirl70

It is my understanding the Philadelphia Santa booing episode is a bit of a myth, in that Santa appeared at halftime and his sleigh had an ad on it. The crowd was booing placing a commercial on Santa. At least that’s how I hear it. This also happened a long time ago.


34 posted on 01/31/2008 9:56:23 AM PST by Williams
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To: NativeNewYorker
"This is a joke. Flint and Philly are crime-ridden cesspools losing population, while New York has a record-low crime rate and is gaining people. How does NYC end up between the other two?"

It's an amatuerish index. A better indication of misery would be rate and number of new business closing versus opening, population growth or shrinkage (the water was cold), lawsuits filed, unemployment rate increasing or decreasing, average wages increasing or decreasing, weather, crime rate increasing or decreasing, commute time increasing or decreasing, air/water quality increasing or decreasing, local political/sports power/prestige increasing (e.g. winning a Super Bowl in Green Bay would make that area estatic regardless of everything else), local taxes increasing/decreasing, etc.

35 posted on 01/31/2008 9:56:39 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: ryan71
I lived in Miami for three years. Its actually a great place (women, nightlife, restaurants) depending on what neighborhood you live in.

Liberty City and Allahpattah are sh-tholes, but that's like judging NYC on Brownsville or LA based on South Central.

36 posted on 01/31/2008 9:56:41 AM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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To: MotleyGirl70

Charlotte could have moved up several notches if they rated the public schools.


37 posted on 01/31/2008 9:56:51 AM PST by DeFault User
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To: MotleyGirl70

I think they forgot Gary, Indiana. :O)


38 posted on 01/31/2008 9:57:19 AM PST by jdm (A Hunter Thompson ticket would be suicide.)
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To: MotleyGirl70
>>Only New York City fares worst than Providence when it comes to income tax rates. The top rate for all of Rhode Island is 9.9%. Residents are fleeing the area, with a net migration of 20,000 out of the area over the past four years.<<

It’s not just Providence, the entire state of Rhode Island is in misery. Since it’s so small, it is easily overlooked but it’s just about to topple of the tracks entirely. People talk about Michigan. Rhode Island is so bankrupt and corrupt that it is unsolvable.

39 posted on 01/31/2008 9:58:16 AM PST by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: NativeNewYorker
NY's issues are the high cost of housing and the high taxes. If you go out to the outer boroughs, and speak with the lower middle class and recent immigrants, they will tell you what hell it is to live in New York in their condition.

Believe it or not, your average Chinese/Albanian/Dominican/Ecuadorian/Nigerian would much prefer a large house on a large lot in suburbia than a row house/flat in Queens or Brooklyn. The "glamour" of NYC means nothing to them.

40 posted on 01/31/2008 9:58:47 AM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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To: Clemenza

Yes Newark is and has been considerably worse than those places because it is considerably larger. Camden is a wreck, but it is tiny in comparison. Newark’s sprawl brought down suburbs for miles around. Camden hasn’t. There is Camden, the Camden River, and then healthy to affluent suburbs.


41 posted on 01/31/2008 9:59:12 AM PST by Williams
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To: ishabibble

Well, I hope the Rhode Island refugees bring Portuguese restaurants whereever they go.


42 posted on 01/31/2008 9:59:22 AM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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To: NativeNewYorker
This is a joke. Flint and Philly are crime-ridden cesspools losing population, while New York has a record-low crime rate and is gaining people.

How does NYC end up between the other two?

I would say the below paragraph sums it up:

"The Big Apple is the nation's center for financial services, publishing, advertising and countless other industries, making job opportunities plentiful. But the costs can make all but the super-wealthy miserable. Housing costs are through the roof, and income tax rates are 10.5%, more than twice the U.S. average. Commuting times are also the worst, at an average of 36 minutes each way."

In other words, in New York it takes forever to get to work, you pay most of your salary for a tiny room to live in, and the government takes the rest of your money in taxes.

43 posted on 01/31/2008 9:59:51 AM PST by GreenLanternCorps (Vote Republican in 2008 or President Hillary Clinton will be reading your FBI file!!!)
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To: dangus

Considering that Philly is now the Gay Mecca of the East, that might endear him to the residents.


44 posted on 01/31/2008 10:01:40 AM PST by bill1952 (The right to buy weapons is the right to be free)
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To: dangus
I’m wondering if Santa wasn’t provocative. Did he come out in rainbow attire to celebrate Gay Pride Day or something?

No, they were angry because the Eagles had won a meaningless game to finish the season 2-11, making them ineligible to receive #1 draft pick OJ Simpson.

Of course this is hardly an isolated incident. The Eagles fans cheared when Michael Irvin broke his neck ending his career.

The City of Philadelphia set up a courtroom inside Veterans Stadium to speed the booking of the many fans arrested each game.

45 posted on 01/31/2008 10:01:42 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Slapshot68

Thank you! (See name)

As far as misery is concerned....

Seattle.
Wet.
Gray.
Full to the brim with liberal slime.
Bigger homosexual population that San Francisco.
Both Senators, Governor, and Mayor-all staunch Democrats.

Need I say more?


46 posted on 01/31/2008 10:01:47 AM PST by hoagy62 (Happily watching the Left go full-goose bozo.)
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To: Williams
I will disagree. Newark has the Ironbound (best place in the NE for Iberian and Brazilian food). Although you have sh-tholes like Irvington and East Orange (just as Philly has Chester and Camden), you also have the oh-so-trendy limo lib suburbs of Montclair and Maplewood, to say nothing of Livingston, Essex Fells, Roseland, and the Caldwells, which are considerably nicers than ANYWHERE in the southern part of the state.

Suburban South Jersey is mostly blue collar hell, but you are right that Camden is small relative to the surrounding area.

47 posted on 01/31/2008 10:01:53 AM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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To: Clemenza

Believe it or not, your average Chinese/Albanian/Dominican/Ecuadorian/Nigerian would much prefer a large house on a large lot in suburbia than a row house/flat in Queens or Brooklyn.


And living in NYC is the way they will acquire that American dream one day. NYC will also serve to assimilate their children


48 posted on 01/31/2008 10:02:23 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: NativeNewYorker
This is a joke. Flint and Philly are crime-ridden cesspools losing population, while New York has a record-low crime rate and is gaining people.

From the article (which takes income tax into consideration) :

Housing costs are through the roof, and income tax rates are 10.5%, more than twice the U.S. average.

49 posted on 01/31/2008 10:03:05 AM PST by MotleyGirl70
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To: Slapshot68

Folks in my neck of the woods look at Philly the way the Corleone’s looked at Fredo. ;-)


50 posted on 01/31/2008 10:03:29 AM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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