Posted on 01/31/2008 2:49:42 PM PST by Leisler
Former Gov. William F. Weld says fellow Republican Mitt Romney can withstand a hometown snub by Bay State voters in presidential balloting next week by simply dismissing the diss as little more than moonbat mania.
“I think people understand when you’re a red governor in a blue state that you have to work with the Democrats, which I think is a good thing,” said Weld, who was governor from 1991 to 1997.
Asked whether his State House successor has to win Massachusetts in his bid for the presidency, Weld, a Romney backer, said, “Not in my view.”
In fact, the former governor predicted, Arizona Sen. John McCain has a good shot in this region.
“Sen. McCain will probably run well in the Northeast; Gov. Romney will run well around the country,” said Weld in an interview with the Herald yesterday from California.
Few polls have been conducted in the Bay State. Romney led among Republicans in a State House News Service survey released Jan. 16. But unenrolled or independent voters - who outnumber Republicans and are key in the Bay State primary because they can cast ballots for either party - prefer McCain 47 to 20 percent.
The independents who helped Romney beat Democrat Shannon O’Brien in 2002 have largely turned on Romney, said Suffolk University pollster David Paleologos.
“And now, they basically have the ability to determine whether Romney will carry Massachusetts,” he said.
A Jan. 24 SurveyUSA poll conducted for WBZ-TV found Mitt Romney with a stronger lead at 50 percent followed by McCain at 29 percent. Romney also led among independents in that poll.
Weld projected the race for GOP nominee would go all the way to the Republican National Convention, scheduled for September in St. Paul, Minn.
Larry Sabato, director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia, said Romney would be “laughed out of the race” if he can’t carry his own backyard.
Romney supporter and state Sen. Robert Hedlund (R-Weymouth) said he considered that Romney might not take the Bay State, but added, “It’ll certainly be embarrassing if he doesn’t.”
Hedlund blamed both the media and Romney’s handlers. “There’s definitely been a conscious effort to package (Romney) differently, but McCain has reinvented himself a number of times and hasn’t been called on it,” Hedlund said.
But Greg Mueller, a GOP strategist and ex-aide to former conservative presidential hopefuls Pat Buchanan and Steve Forbes, also believes Romney can survive a home-state loss.
“Massachusetts isn’t a conservative state, and I don’t think Romney is trying to appeal to those center-left states,” Mueller said. jvansack@bostonherald.com
Mitt, on the other hand, had an "epiphany" on abortion while his administration is researching stem cell research, after 12 years of outspoken support of abortion rights. He headed a private equity firm specializing in corporate turnarounds, which usually starts with massive plant and store closings and finding cheaper labor abroad, which is not wrong per se but he goes around the country talking about creating blue collar jobs in America and about the evils of illegal immigration. That's just phoniness
Bills_Brown_Bag comments
He pretty much ticked off the party with his dismal record of anti-coattail riding. How many lawmakers did the Romney revolution produce? One? The GOP lost seats under Mittens and he could have cared less. It's payback time
BG notices Mitt's political pump and dump skills
Nonetheless, Mitt Romney doesn't create relationships the way politicians have to, which is why, even though he was a good governor in the overall, many don't have good feelings about him. In Massachusetts people would rather get screwed by somebody they like than be governed well by somebody they don't like. That's why this place is losing population and is the laughingstock of the rest of the country. However, Mitt still has to learn that you can't just treat a place like a business. You can't buy and sell it, you have to make a relationship with it and keep that relationship.
“He pretty much ticked off the party with his dismal record of anti-coattail riding. How many lawmakers did the Romney revolution produce? One?”
That’s a load of hoakus. Romney spent hours upon hours of his own time recruiting new Repubilcan candidates in 2004 and spent millions of his own money campaigning for these politicians in 2004.
I dare ask how many other politicians running have done the same? The obvious answer is zero, of course.
And the results? The usual as of late with Massachusetts: a massive victory for Democrats. I suppose Romney should have repeated the effort in 2006 in a year when it was obvious that the tide was high for Democrats and low for Republicans. Just tossed his money and his time away into nothingness...
I’m afraid Mass doesn’t take the state’s well-being all that seriously until the disaster siren is blaring loudly across the bay...
“The Massachusetts Republican Party died last Tuesday.
The cause of death: failed leadership.
The party is survived by a few leftover legislators
and a handful of county officials and grassroots activists
who have been ignored for years.
Services will be public and a mass exodus of taxpayers will follow.
In lieu of flowers, send messages to New Hampshire Republican voters
warning them about a certain presidential candidate named Romney.”
- Boston Herald, 11/12/2006
“Romney arrived on the scene with great promise,
but is leaving the Republican Party here in shambles.
Not only are the Republicans yielding the governor’s office
for the first time in 16 years, but registered Republicans
have fallen by 31,000 since Romney took office,
and their legislative presence is at historic lows.
But it worked out fine for him:
He is now chasing the prize he really covets, the presidency.”"
- Boston Globe 11/8/2006
This statement pretty much summs it up for Mass.,
“In Massachusetts people would rather get screwed by somebody they like than be governed well by somebody they don’t like.”
So the snubbing, in the context, means that Mitt was a good governor and didn’t screw the constituancy......But vote for McCain and a stronger drive towards a free and sovreign Aztlan!
Time for Massachusetts to do to Scumney what he did to the MA GOP. Bury it.
Propaganda machine at it’s best. You took it hook, line, and sinker!
See my previous post.
I watched it happen. Romney did bust his hump. Regressive Massachusetts voters clung to their Democrats...again.
NOT a propaganda machine because it is ALL the newspapers
in Romney’s home state.
Seems you got snookered.
“And as you allude to, two short years later, it was buttkis to State Republicans for Mitt. Pump and dump.”
A bit like you were just putting all your money in stocks this time of year in 2001, right?
*rolls eyes*
After Mitt was elected by the state GOP, he couldn’t dump them fast enough.
Mitt is a political Dr. Kavorkian .
Nor did team-Romney's Fake LEO and Fake badges.
Romney destroyed the state's economy putting it at the
bottom of all states in economic job gain.
Bishop Romney failed -- except to his revisionists.
I am not from Mass so i could really care less for any of what is being said about him in the Lib rags they call newspapers of which only two were quoted. I figured in a state so populace they would have more than two newspapers.
What I do know is that McCain is in bed with every major Lib in D.C. and that is someplace Mitt is not from. As far as I can tell Mitt hasn’t supported a degradation of our constitutional rights via McCain-Feingold not to mention the “security” via lanes of McAmnesty.
We’ll save the Huckster for another debate.
It was only a matter of time before the real reason came out for his dislike....his religion. Good post though. \s
Anyways, Mitt was just here to get his resume buffed, ticket punched, and racially, Mayor of Detroit was out.
only two? They are the only two major newspapers.
a medic would examine what is before her/his eyes.
We dislike Joe Isuzu Romney because he’s a sleazy liberal liar and a destructive farce that helps the Democrat cause wherever he goes.
Sensor failure in isle 4.
“NOT a propaganda machine because it is ALL the newspapers
in Romney’s home state.”
Like I said, two newspapers. you made it sound as though there several as in more than two and the word ALL would include outlying rural areas as well unless you mean Boston not Mass! and as a medic my sense of smell is better than my vision (20/20 both eyes reality/proverbially) and I could smell the BS in this thread long before I opened it!
Massachusetts politics, probably coming to the entire U.S. very soon! If you really want to know what it’s like to have the Republican Party as a profound minority for several decades and counting, then all you have to do is seriously look at the ongoing politics of both Massachusetts and Rhode Island! Mitt Romney should frequently say what’s coming the U.S. way if either McCain or any Democrat takes over the White House along with a Democratic majority in both Houses of Congress. Mitt never uses the ongoing problems with Massachusetts politics as a possible foreshadowing of things to come to the entire country!
sounds more like McCain than you know...the difference is Romney doesn’t have a record of border opening bills and reduction of constituinal rights on his plate.
I just wanted to say it again.
We dislike Joe Isuzu Romney because he’s a sleazy liberal liar and a destructive farce that helps the Democrat cause wherever he goes.
nice drive by. I like the straight-forward way you dodged the issue. just like other naysayers for Romney.....can’t handle it when compared to a real Liberal....McCain.
we’re following the leader, the leader, the leader. We’re following the leader wherever he may go.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1962837/posts
I’m not excusing McCain, I’m not supporting him. But for Conservatives to believe for half-a-second that Romney supports their cause, I’m here to tell you that he doesn’t. He enjoys lying to people’s faces to get himself elected. I thought it was cute when he did it when he ran against Ted Kennedy in 1994 since they were a bunch of rodent morons he was doing it to. I stopped thinking it was cute when he did the same thing to Conservative Republicans.
The only positive I can say for McCain is that he may choose SC Gov. Mark Sanford as his running mate. Sanford is a younger and more attractive Fred Thompson and one of our best Governors in the country. McCain will croak in his first term and we’ll get Sanford as President. If Romney ends up as President, the only thing that will die won’t be him, but the GOP. He’ll exterminate the party to the last and then hand over the Presidency to Obama. He already did that in MA, only the Obama up there is named Deval Patrick.
When trees get sick, people, societies, polities, they succumb to opportunists, much like Mass to Mitt.
You're just doing fine by me. Keep going.
So you think that McCain would be better even though you don’t support him? Nice. McCain will do no less damage to the GOP than Romney the only difference is that Romney, even if fake, has had a change of heart whereas McCain still thinks that everything he has done is right and good and he is still getting the support of all the other”moderates” and in bed with those on the “other side of the aisle”. Living in the southwest and having to learn spanish to communicate is why I still think Romney is the way to go. With McCain in the oval office, he will be waiting to with his pen to sign a copy of his own legislation whether it be limiting the 1st Amendment or Amnesty.
“You’re just doing fine by me. Keep going.”
I know and I will. try debating instead of drive-by’s and smokescreen....it usually works better to get your point across than simple childrens games.
This article tries to play it as if Romney didn't poll right now 50 to McCain's 29. At the same time independents are allowed to vote either party and registrations can still be changed as far as I know.
As far as you Romney haters go, this group of whiners quoted in this all had something they lost - a cozy inside connection to the top pol. They weren't used to it so that even "conservative" papers like the Herald have been Romney busting. Of course bitching always sells and the Herald could buttress their "compassion" by making every dig under the sun against Romney so as to guarantee the, "See, even the Herald..." storylines in rival broadsheets and off the tip of liberal tongues.
You Romney haters should start a group on meetup.com so that you can hang out and throw darts at a Mitt Dartboard, piss on urinal soaps with BYU intials and then enjoy trying to explain to the waitress that you don't speak Spanish.
He'll be better so long as he kicks the bucket shortly after he'd be elected, that is all.
"McCain will do no less damage to the GOP than Romney the only difference is that Romney, even if fake, has had a change of heart"
You just contradicted yourself here. If he is a fake, he couldn't have had a change of heart. Romney is an unreconstructed liar. In fact, he's not even a particularly good liar, and as soon as he gets caught, he gets really ugly. I've not seen a lot of Democrats that lie as pathologically as he does. There is absolutely not a single word that comes out of his mouth that can be trusted. He hasn't converted on anything. He will lie to your face on whatever issue to get you to vote for him. It's that simple. With Romney, it's all about achieving power and avenging his father's loss of the White House. A lot like Al Gore.
Cry me a rio.
What debate?
No one asked me.
Assumptions, the shoals of .....simple children.
Romney was governor?
I thought he just used the state as a rest stop while he was out gallivanting around the country.
Remember the last time a former governor of MA ran for president?
Naah, I’d consider calling Precious Willard an empty suit a compliment. Empty suits are often amiable dunces. This guy is like the song “King Midas In Reverse.” Everything Republican and Conservative he touches turns to $hit. How come we can’t secretly bankroll people willing to infiltrate the rodent party and wreak maximum damage within their party ?
Ain't no tears here, corporal. Just saying it like it is.
(Seriously, for 15 years I have been saying, "accelerate the revolution, become part of the problem." Sort of an aggressive Atlas Shrugged becomes Atlas shoves his way into the trough.)
I have yet to see a Romney shortbus rider “tell it like it is.” They couldn’t find their butts with both hands.
Y’know, the funny thing about Bill Clinton, if I were an active Democrat, I’d have accused him of being a paid Republican agent. That guy managed to do what we couldn’t for 42 years, hand us a Republican Congress on a silver platter. If I were a rodent, I wouldn’t want him or his wife anywhere near the Democrat party leadership. I’m absolutely amazed they didn’t run them out of DC on a rail after his first term.
Not only that, he went in on welfare reform. Sort of. But better than any Republican had done. Who’da thunk?
I guess that's supposed to be some clever comeback. Wallow in your bitchin' - it's ALL you ever do on this forum irregardless of the subject.
Well said - great comments.
Eww, dude. ;-D
The only bitchin’ is comin’ from your end, Hoss. You folks all gonna jump off a cliff when your RINO messiah crashes and burns ? Let me know so I can grab some popcorn and a lawn chair. :-)
I know two people from the state of Massachusetts, both I would classify as moderately conservative. One worked as a volunteer in Romney's race against Kennedy and both supported Romney in his gubernatorial race. Both of them are adamantly opposed to him now.
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