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Democrats say McCain nearly abandoned GOP
The Hill ^ | 03/28/2007 | Bob Cusack

Posted on 01/31/2008 7:52:48 PM PST by Hoodat

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) was close to leaving the Republican Party in 2001, weeks before then-Sen. Jim Jeffords (Vt.) famously announced his decision to become an Independent, according to former Democratic lawmakers who say they were involved in the discussions.

In interviews with The Hill this month, former Sen. Tom Daschle (D-S.D.) and ex-Rep. Tom Downey (D-N.Y.) said there were nearly two months of talks with the maverick lawmaker following an approach by John Weaver, McCain’s chief political strategist.

Democrats had contacted Jeffords and then-Sen. Lincoln Chafee (R-R.I.) in the early months of 2001 about switching parties, but in McCain’s case, they said, it was McCain’s top strategist who came to them.

At the end of their March 31, 2001 lunch at a Chinese restaurant in Bethesda, Md., Downey said Weaver asked why Democrats hadn’t asked McCain to switch parties.

Downey, a well-connected lobbyist, said he was stunned.

“You’re really wondering?” Downey said he told Weaver. “What do you mean you’re wondering?”

“Well, if the right people asked him,” Weaver said, according to Downey, adding that he responded, “The calls will be made. Who do you want?” Weaver this week said he did have lunch with Downey that spring, pointing out that he and Downey “are very good friends.”

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To: lonestar
He hasn't stabbed us in the back!

Romney: "I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF RETURNING TO THE DAYS OF REAGAN!"

121 posted on 02/01/2008 6:48:44 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: PhilDragoo

Thanks for the ping!


122 posted on 02/01/2008 7:13:47 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Do you not hear of his murdering the MA GOP ?

There was a MA GOP?

Where? In some remote valley of the Berkshires?

Have they sent out search parties?

123 posted on 02/01/2008 7:20:56 AM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Sudetenland
Now let me get this straight...anyone who supported Rudy is a pervert and degenerate

Yes, you're right.

124 posted on 02/01/2008 7:44:14 AM PST by tear gas (Because of the 22nd Amendment, we are losing President. Bush. Can we afford to lose him now?)
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To: Senator Goldwater
I’m not heartbroken. I’m hopeful McCain asks Rudy onto the ticket, which sets him up nicely for 2012 as the incumbent VP when McCain steps down after one term.

What will it take to convince some of you Rudy lovers that your Rudy is a loser.

Give it some time. The infatuation will end.

125 posted on 02/01/2008 7:50:07 AM PST by tear gas (Because of the 22nd Amendment, we are losing President. Bush. Can we afford to lose him now?)
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To: Hoodat

Any Republican that votes for this man is a RINO loving bastard. You’re destroying the party, because the vast majority of this party doesn’t support this man...at all. You’re helping to split the GOP into a dozen pieces.


126 posted on 02/01/2008 8:20:14 AM PST by DesScorp
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To: tear gas
Oohh-kay, just checking.

Guess I need to increase my Reynolds Aluminum stock holdings.
127 posted on 02/01/2008 10:50:00 AM PST by Sudetenland (Mike Huckabee=Bill Clinton. Can we afford another Clinton in the White House...from either party?)
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To: Mr. Brightside
As I stated before, I did not question Romney's bona fides. I never claimed to employ anyone. Your question is irrelevent...and has already been answered. Learn to read.
128 posted on 02/01/2008 10:53:15 AM PST by Sudetenland (Mike Huckabee=Bill Clinton. Can we afford another Clinton in the White House...from either party?)
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To: True-Stu

Nice try. Take a look at the record, the man couldn’t be bothered to notice the warning bells all over the place that this judicial applicant would have a very liberal record on the bench. Nope, he couldn’t get away fast enough to his long lunch at Ruth’s Chris Steakhouse (again, check his schedule for that day, only 15 minutes with Tuttman. It only took a fraction of that time for a FReeper to uncover that she was a Robert Reichite. You don’t ever put people like that on the bench — ever). The blood is on his hands. That is just one of many reasons why Romney is beyond unfit to serve in any political office, period.

And P.S., I’m not supporting McCain. This ain’t and either/or thing, this is a right and wrong thing.


129 posted on 02/01/2008 2:19:02 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: supercat

No, I wouldn’t accuse Romney of being seriously mentally unstable, although his obsession with power, the White House, and his pathological problem with lying makes him borderline. He really is no different than Bill Clinton in that regard.


130 posted on 02/01/2008 2:26:51 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: Sudetenland

Unfortunately, he’s the worst of the bad lot, with the record to prove it.


131 posted on 02/01/2008 2:34:12 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: Sudetenland

See, this is what has bothered me. This claim of Fred being lazy was a complete media and establishment fabrication. In other words, it was total bull$hit.


Larry King Live with Jeri & Fred Thompson, 11/30/2007

KING: How do you react to those who say Fred Thompson doesn’t want to work hard?

F. THOMPSON: I don’t usually have much of a reaction to them at all.

KING: Do you think that’s folly or...

F. THOMPSON: Yes. It’s — somebody asked me about that on one of the debates and I went — got to thinking about it a little bit. And my response to them was that I started out in a factory when I was a kid, in a small town in Tennessee. I worked and bartered my way through school. I had a family at that time. I was a prosecutor, a federal prosecutor, when I was in my 20s. I was the Watergate counsel when I was 30. I got elected to the United States Senate twice, by 20 point margins, in a state that Bill Clinton carried twice.

When I decided to do this job that Jeri was talking about, the television job, I had two jobs at that time. I’ve been called upon by the president to help judge John Roberts to be chief justice, John Roberts. I was called on by Condoleezza Rice to head up an advisory board on international security matters because that was my — one of my areas of expertise when I was in the Senate.

And I’m the father of two children under the age of five. And I said then, I said if a man can be lazy and do that, then I highly recommend it to everybody.

KING: How do you react to that critique, Jeri?

J. THOMPSON: It’s frustrating for me. I think it would be frustrating for anyone, you know, to have your — to have your spouse denigrated that way. But it’s — it’s — we did. We laughed. We really — I mean we were almost a chortle (ph) to know that he was working two full-time jobs and doing these civil service, you know, jobs on the side. And when he had — we had to keep up the highest classification for his — for him to, you know, be able to have these briefings.

F. THOMPSON: Security classification briefings.

J. THOMPSON: The security — yes, thank you — the security clearances. I mean that — that in and of itself ought to denote something, you know, about where his heart was and what he was doing. I think when there’s not much to attack, you go after these stories. And they do — they do what they can to — to look for something to try to attack him on.

He’s a slower talker. He moves a little slower. And I think that people go — and they go at that and try to think that that’s — that’s what it is. It’s just — it’s just (INAUDIBLE)...

F. THOMPSON: Slow talking, slow walking Tennessee boys (INAUDIBLE)...

J. THOMPSON: It’s just flat out ridiculous.


132 posted on 02/01/2008 2:39:08 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: cookcounty

Tom Tancredo.


133 posted on 02/01/2008 2:39:36 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: okie01

Yup, there was. They were still quite vibrant and on the rebound in the ‘90s. That was until these RINO pigs killed it.


134 posted on 02/01/2008 2:45:33 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Yet the facts are that he dallied around while the others were campaigning hard, he allowed the rumors of his announcement on July 4th to go uncorrected, he didn't announce until Labor Day, he didn't even move into Iowa in a big way until waaay too late, and as I said earlier, in South Carolina he was making one campaign stop for every 3 or 4 that McInsane was making.

At the very least his actions showed over confidence, and at the worst poor judgment and lack of enthusiasm.

His little game of "footsie" back in late summer and early fall was badly thought out and a gross mistake. Either he chose bad advisors, or he made bad decisions. Which ever it is, it was his fault, not the MSM's or Conservative talk radio's fault that his campaign never really got off the ground.

When he failed to announce back in July, I had a sneaking feeling that he had blown his chance...and I was proven right. If you want to complain about Fred Thompson not being in the battle right now, you've no one to blame but Fred.
135 posted on 02/01/2008 3:35:12 PM PST by Sudetenland (Mike Huckabee=Bill Clinton. Can we afford another Clinton in the White House...from either party?)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Besides, you can't win the Presidency by talking about how hard you worked in the past. He needed to work hard in the current campaign and he didn't.

I was a part of the draft Fred movement. He was my fondest hope from the instant his name was mentioned...He is my greatest disappointment. The Texas Fred08 group was one of the most active in the nation, but I never evn got a chance to vote because he didn't put forward the effort to win.

The truth is, if he had entered into the race in July, the nomination would have been his for the asking. He pi$$ed a lot of his supporters off with that little stunt (or perhaps a more measured term, such as "alienated" would be appropriate).

I blame him for the choices with which we are now faced.
136 posted on 02/01/2008 3:43:15 PM PST by Sudetenland (Mike Huckabee=Bill Clinton. Can we afford another Clinton in the White House...from either party?)
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To: Sudetenland

While we can say in hindsight now what he should’ve done, the fact is that he thought it was absolutely ludicrous to declare for President so long before the cycle. We are reaching the point now that a candidate has to declare 2 to 4 years in advance to be “viable.” While he may have made the mistake now of not entering early enough, I don’t think it would’ve mattered. The media and the RINO establishment didn’t want him, they ignored his candidacy from the day after he declared onward, focusing on the likes of Rudy, et al, who was the preferred choice. They didn’t want a Conservative GOP candidate, they just wanted another liberal, and now they’re gonna get one. It just makes you sick.


137 posted on 02/01/2008 3:48:31 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Well, if you look at the behavior of our Republicans in Congress over the past eight years, true Conservatives like Jeff Sessions and John Cornyn have been few and far between.

It's like after the 1994 revolution, and Gingrich's and Livingston's departure, the RINO's took over...the final blow was the abandonment of DeLay, whom I didn't like as a person, but who was the last bit of glue in the caucus.

It is a sad day indeed. Unlike you I will support Romney, if I get the chance, but I will not vote for McCain no matter what. Insanity is the BIG disqualifier for the presidency.
138 posted on 02/01/2008 4:30:23 PM PST by Sudetenland (Mike Huckabee=Bill Clinton. Can we afford another Clinton in the White House...from either party?)
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To: Sudetenland

Are you sure you don’t mean Tom Coburn ? Cornyn hasn’t seemed like much of a Conservative leader (although he is better than his seatmate). I actually liked DeLay, he was a tough SOB. Hastert I didn’t care for (personally, he was OK, but as a leader, he was subpar, and the fact he was a part of the IL Combine was not good. The Combine is the reason they ran the excellent Conservative Pete Fitzgerald out of the Senate and replaced him with Obama. Had they supported Fitzgerald, Obama would still be an obscure state legislator today).

Well, I’m not voting for McCain, either, even in the general election, but he will probably be the nominee at this point, and we should pray he picks somebody like Gov. Mark Sanford or Tom Coburn as his running mate and then kicks the bucket (which I expect he will early in his term, he’s already older than his father was when he died). But Romney I’d crawl over glass to vote against. He really would make me vote for Hillary or Obama to stop him. My big disqualifier is that I won’t vote for people who lie to my face, and that guy doesn’t even know how to be honest. How he gets any Republican or Conservative support absolutely defies the imagination. I’ve been at the forefront leading the charge against him since he started to seriously float his name about 2 years ago and I have no intention whatsoever in stopping now.


139 posted on 02/01/2008 4:45:00 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: tear gas

What will it take to convince some of you Rudy lovers that your Rudy is a loser.


Certainly not a walk around New York, because Rudy cleaned up New York.

What the anti-Giuliani crowd on this board refuses to acknowledge is that Rudy was an effective leader under some of the worst circumstances an executive could have, and beat the Democrats soundly with his vision on crime, taxes, and leadership.

He’d make a great VP now, and a great president in 2012.


140 posted on 02/01/2008 8:20:00 PM PST by Senator Goldwater
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