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(March 28, 2007) Democrats say McCain nearly abandoned GOP
The Hill via Drudge ^ | March 28, 2007 | Bob Cusack

Posted on 01/31/2008 9:35:11 PM PST by AllseeingEye33

Democrats say McCain nearly abandoned GOP By Bob Cusack Posted: 03/28/07 07:39 PM [ET] Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) was close to leaving the Republican Party in 2001, weeks before then-Sen. Jim Jeffords (Vt.) famously announced his decision to become an Independent, according to former Democratic lawmakers who say they were involved in the discussions.

In interviews with The Hill this month, former Sen. Tom Daschle (D-S.D.) and ex-Rep. Tom Downey (D-N.Y.) said there were nearly two months of talks with the maverick lawmaker following an approach by John Weaver, McCain’s chief political strategist.

Democrats had contacted Jeffords and then-Sen. Lincoln Chafee (R-R.I.) in the early months of 2001 about switching parties, but in McCain’s case, they said, it was McCain’s top strategist who came to them.

At the end of their March 31, 2001 lunch at a Chinese restaurant in Bethesda, Md., Downey said Weaver asked why Democrats hadn’t asked McCain to switch parties.

Downey, a well-connected lobbyist, said he was stunned.

“You’re really wondering?” Downey said he told Weaver. “What do you mean you’re wondering?”

“Well, if the right people asked him,” Weaver said, according to Downey, adding that he responded, “The calls will be made. Who do you want?” Weaver this week said he did have lunch with Downey that spring, pointing out that he and Downey “are very good friends.”

He claims, however, that Downey is grossly mischaracterizing their exchange: “We certainly didn’t discuss in any detail about the senator’s political plans and any discussion about party-switchers, generically, would have been limited to the idle gossip which was all around the city about the [Democrats’] aggressive approach about getting any GOP senator to switch in order to gain the majority. Nothing more or less than that.”

Downey said Weaver is well aware that their discussion was much more than typical Washington chit-chat.

“Within seconds” of arriving home from his lunch with Weaver, Downey said he was on the phone to the most powerful Democrats in town. One of the first calls he made was to then-Senate Minority Leader Daschle.

“I did take the call from Tom [Downey],” Daschle said in an interview. “It was Weaver’s comment” to Downey that started the McCain talks, he added.

Daschle noted that McCain at that time was frustrated with the Bush administration as a result of his loss to George W. Bush in the 2000 Republican primary.

Daschle said that throughout April and May of 2001, he and McCain “had meetings and conversations on the floor and in his office, I think in mine as well, about how we would do it, what the conditions would be. We talked about committees and his seniority … [A lot of issues] were on the table.”

Absolutely not so, according to McCain. In a statement released by his campaign, McCain said, “As I said in 2001, I never considered leaving the Republican Party, period.”

Some of the meetings Daschle referred to are detailed in the former senator’s 2003 book.

Other senators who played major roles in the intense recruiting effort, according to Democrats, were then-Sen. John Edwards (D-N.C.) as well as Sens. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) and Harry Reid (D-Nev.).

“John [Edwards] at that time was working with McCain on a couple things and there was a sense that because of his relationship that he might be a good person to talk to him,” Daschle said. “He was clearly one of those that we thought could be helpful.”

A source close to Edwards said Daschle’s comments are accurate.

Daschle also said, “Both Sen. Reid and I talked to [McCain] both individually and together.” Several former McCain aides who worked for the senator in 2001 and are now in the private sector did not return phone calls seeking comment.

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), a longtime friend of McCain’s, said yesterday, “I have never heard one word from John’s mouth to suggest he was going to leave the Republican Party. These are political-intrigue stories that have no basis in fact.” Speculation about McCain’s flirtations with becoming an Independent surfaced in the press throughout 2001.

In one article, Marshall Wittman, a McCain loyalist and strategist six years ago, put the odds of McCain leaving the Republican Party at “50-50.” Wittman, who now works for Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-Conn.), declined to comment for this article. A source said that Wittman’s comment at that time was “completely based on speculation.”

McCain consistently shot down the rumors, though Weaver acknowledged this week that the senator did talk to Democrats about leaving the GOP.

He said McCain was invited to a meeting in Kennedy’s office with several other Democratic senators but “didn’t know what the meeting was for” and left soon thereafter. Weaver added that Edwards approached McCain on the Senate floor to discuss the matter. Daschle, however, said the talks went much further, claiming that there were times that he and Democratic leaders thought McCain “might be our best opportunity.” Daschle stressed that McCain never considered becoming a Democrat, but was close to becoming an Independent. Downey said, “I actually thought during the initial stages of this that [McCain leaving the Republican Party] was almost a certain deal.” Weaver, who changed his party affiliation to “Democrat” several years ago, said he respects Daschle and Downey, but added, “They’re partisan Democrats and we’re in the political season.”

Told of Weaver’s version of what happened, Daschle said, “Obviously, our recollection of what transpired is somewhat different.”

Daschle first made some of these assertions in little-noticed parts of his book, titled Like No Other Time: The 107th Congress and the Two Years That Changed America Forever.

The book states that in 2001, Daschle and other Democrats were attempting to persuade three Republicans to leave their party: Jeffords, Chafee, and McCain.

Asked which one was the closest to committing, Daschle answered, “Depended on the day.”

On page 62, Daschle wrote that McCain and Chafee “seemed like real possibilities” to bolt their party. He pointed out that few, if any, of McCain’s people were hired by the Bush administration.

“John didn’t think that was right,” Daschle wrote, “that his staff should be penalized like that.”

Chafee confirmed to The Hill this week that he had meetings with Democrats about changing parties in 2001 because he was “alarmed” at the differences between President Bush’s campaign promises and the policies coming out of his administration.

Weaver said he hasn’t read Daschle’s book, which does not mention the Downey-Weaver lunch.

Mark Salter, who in 2001 was McCain’s chief of staff and now works for the senator’s campaign, said McCain has not at any moment thought about leaving the Republican Party: “Never at any time. Never.”

Salter said there were no staff discussions about this issue, noting he would have been in on them.

Soon after Bush was inaugurated as the nation’s 43rd president, McCain was working with Democrats on many issues, ranging from gun control to healthcare to campaign-finance reform.

McCain’s links to Democrats were so clear that Sen. Trent Lott (R-Miss.) — now a close ally of McCain — publicly criticized him in the early part of 2001 for keeping “unusual company.”

Jeffords pulled the trigger on May 24, 2001, throwing control of the Senate to Democrats. Chafee and McCain then broke off their discussions with Democratic leaders, according to Democrats.

Downey said he talked to Weaver at least once a week during McCain’s discussions with Democrats, asking him questions like, “What is the state of play?” and “Where are we?”

“Weaver was very active in this,” Downey said, “None of this happens without Weaver.”

The Democrats’ claims about McCain come as the senator is courting the Republican base for his 2008 White House bid. Other frontrunners for the GOP nomination have raised some eyebrows in conservative circles. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney (R) voted for Democratic Sen. Paul Tsongas (Mass.) in 1992, while ex-New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) endorsed then-New York Gov. Mario Cuomo (D) a couple years later.

Asked why this news hasn’t come out before, Downey said, “It’s a mystery to me. And in fact, the last time Weaver and I had dinner together [on April 26, 2006], we laughed about this … It’s never been written about, never got in the paper.”

He denied any political motivation, saying he is still friends with Weaver and “deeply respects” McCain. “I would have been happy to come forward last year or the year before if someone had asked … There were meetings in offices. You can’t deny [these meetings took place]. They occurred.”

Downey added, “It’s my hope that John McCain is the Republican nominee because from my perspective, although I think Democrats are going to win, if they don’t, McCain is the sort of man I would feel comfortable [with] as the president of the United States. I’m not trying to hurt him.”

Daschle said he doesn’t believe the new revelations will hurt McCain. “Everyone has known John McCain to be independent, to take his own course. That was a time in his life when he at least weighed the possibility of becoming an independent, but he rejected it, so I can’t imagine that can ever be used as a political liability.”

On June 2, 2001, The Washington Post ran a front-page story with the headline “McCain is Considering Leaving GOP; Arizona Senator Might Launch a Third-Party Challenge to Bush in 2004.”

The article, written in the wake of the Jeffords’s announcement, noted that Daschle and his wife were visiting the McCains at the senator’s home in Arizona for what was billed by McCain’s office as a social event. But by that time, McCain had decided to stay a Republican, according to Daschle.

In his book, Daschle wrote that plans for the June weekend getaway were made months earlier when McCain was mulling changing his party affiliation.

As the media camped outside the senator’s vacation house in Sedona, Ariz., Daschle and McCain discussed “what an incredible piece of history Jim Jeffords had just written,” Daschle wrote. “Nothing was said about John doing the same thing. I think we both knew that wasn’t going to happen, not now.”

McCain and Bush settled their differences before the president’s reelection campaign in 2004, when McCain strongly backed his former nemesis after reportedly rejecting an offer from Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) to become his vice presidential nominee. Last year, McCain aggressively stumped for dozens of GOP candidates.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; chafee; elections; gop; mccain; news; rino

1 posted on 01/31/2008 9:35:13 PM PST by AllseeingEye33
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To: AllseeingEye33

Just the fact that it’s plausible is all you need to know. Also, those DEMs play smart and dirty.


2 posted on 01/31/2008 9:37:41 PM PST by Huck (Buzzards gotta eat, same as worms.)
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To: AllseeingEye33

He should have gone through with it. It would hvae been the first honest thing he has done in his political career.


3 posted on 01/31/2008 9:37:54 PM PST by TBP
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To: AllseeingEye33

Is it true that John McKerry.....errr...McCain was a Vietnam POW?


4 posted on 01/31/2008 9:39:45 PM PST by Texas Eagle (Could pacifists exist if there weren't people brave enough to go to war for their right to exist?)
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To: AllseeingEye33

As Goober Lindsey Graham would say, “Republican by day, Democrat by night”


5 posted on 01/31/2008 9:40:12 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: AllseeingEye33

Nearly?


6 posted on 01/31/2008 9:40:23 PM PST by americanophile
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To: AllseeingEye33

I hope McCain becomes as irrelevant as Daschle is.


7 posted on 01/31/2008 9:40:43 PM PST by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: AllseeingEye33

How I wish he had indeed left.


8 posted on 01/31/2008 9:41:41 PM PST by Terpfen (Romney's loss in Florida is a catastrophe.)
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To: AllseeingEye33

The only positive thing about John McCain becoming President is that he wouldn’t have to deal with himself in the Senate.


9 posted on 01/31/2008 9:47:43 PM PST by Texas Eagle (Could pacifists exist if there weren't people brave enough to go to war for their right to exist?)
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To: AllseeingEye33

More evidence to corroborate what Rush Limbaugh said, a McCain nomination would destroy the GOP. Rush, as usual, is right.


10 posted on 01/31/2008 10:06:32 PM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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To: AllseeingEye33; All

“following an approach by John Weaver, McCain’s chief political strategist”

mcpain is one of the us congressional reps whose true political persona is 100% MORE accurately understood by knowing and understanding the people behind him than by the facade he presents in public

all of those behind him are right at home in the company of people like Kennedy, Feigngold, Clinton et al, while he continues the pretense in his “conservative” facade


11 posted on 01/31/2008 10:09:53 PM PST by Wuli
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To: AllseeingEye33

What could have been.....(sigh)


12 posted on 01/31/2008 10:13:18 PM PST by keepitreal
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To: AllseeingEye33

He nearly abandoned the GOP...and now he wants to take all of it with him.


13 posted on 01/31/2008 10:27:28 PM PST by L.N. Smithee ("San Francisco Zoo" is redundant.)
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To: AllseeingEye33

Is Daschle really a reliable source? Don’t get me wrong - I believe this. And I also believe them when they say McCain asked to be Kerry’s running mate. But Daschle’s been in the news WAYYY too much lately for my tastes. The man was a loser, and he needs to go away.


14 posted on 01/31/2008 10:29:32 PM PST by COgamer
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To: tflabo
As Goober Lindsey Graham would say, “Republican by day, Democrat by night”

Back stabber by day, sword swallower by night.

Regards

15 posted on 01/31/2008 10:46:26 PM PST by ARE SOLE (Agents Ramos and Campean are in prison at this very moment.. (A "Concerned Citizen".)
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To: Scarchin; Rb ver. 2.0; Bird Jenkins; Y Ceratotherium; WOSG; jschner; patriciaruth; ...

THIS IS DAMNING!


16 posted on 01/31/2008 10:52:34 PM PST by Checkers (I'd say John McCain is a Dick Nixon, but Nixon didn't hate Republicans.)
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To: Texas Eagle

LOL!


17 posted on 01/31/2008 10:55:30 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Checkers
No one is fooled here. He is a Democrat, just look at his legislation and who his friends are. He just knows he has more power as a Republican, but he works to obstruct conservatives constantly.

He needs to be escorted OUT of the Republican Party!

18 posted on 01/31/2008 10:59:57 PM PST by jan in Colorado ("It's easier to believe a lie one hears 1,000 times than to believe a fact that one has never heard)
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To: COgamer

For all Daschle’s faults, I don’t recall that lying was on his list, at least not very high.


19 posted on 01/31/2008 11:00:35 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: jan in Colorado
I remember McCain being an inexorably sore loser after his last attempt to attain the Presidency. This story is a "duh" moment because it was so apparent he was working against his named party. I LOATHE HIM.

I'm trying very hard to convince myself I must vote for him should he become the nominee (cringe). Last night I told my husband NO WAY would I EVER vote for him. Tonight after watching the Dem debate that should have been dubbed "Socialism R Us" I told my husband I couldn't give either Hillary or Obama a freebie. (Oh, gosh, I feel like I'm gonna barf.)

I can't remember a time I was this conflicted about our choice of a nominee. I hope there is still a chance he won't win - oh, please, oh, please - but I'm tired of kidding myself. Our party has really trodden so far off the beaten path.

20 posted on 01/31/2008 11:33:06 PM PST by BlueHorseShoe
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To: Checkers

Perhaps it’s just my dirty mind, but I can’t help but think of all the leaks that made it to the MSM over the past several years.


21 posted on 01/31/2008 11:49:28 PM PST by Gator113 (McCain will lead our country....into the valley of darkness, with Hillary holding our hand.)
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To: AllseeingEye33

When Kerry was humiliated as it leaked he repeatedly begged McCain to join and save his failing ticket, FR had a lot of fun laughing at his desperation. Now the humiliation is on FR itself as it relies on John Kerry to attack McCain.

Friday, May 28, 2004

Conan and McCain

Conan O’Brien had McCain on last night. To paraphrase:

Conan: Is there any truth to the talk you would consider being Vice President on the Kerry ticket to create a bipartisan juggernaut

McCain: I was a POW in Vietnam. For several years I was kept in a dark corner, void from reality, and fed scraps. Do you think I want to go through that again

Also

McCain: The Vice President has two primary duties, break ties in the Senate, and check daily on the health of the president, neither of which are very challenging.

It was funny if you saw it.


22 posted on 02/01/2008 12:11:32 AM PST by tlb
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To: BlueHorseShoe
I remember McCain being an inexorably sore loser after his last attempt to attain the Presidency.

Me too. Is that the reason he wouldn't go along with Bush tax cuts? The man appears to be very vengeful. I know the Clintons are ruthless, but McCain seems to be a mean, petty man. I've tried to like him. Tried to see some good points about him but I'm having a really tough time.

23 posted on 02/01/2008 12:13:36 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: BlueHorseShoe
Last night I told my husband NO WAY would I EVER vote for him. Tonight after watching the Dem debate that should have been dubbed "Socialism R Us" I told my husband I couldn't give either Hillary or Obama a freebie. (Oh, gosh, I feel like I'm gonna barf.)

I can't remember a time I was this conflicted about our choice of a nominee. I hope there is still a chance he won't win - oh, please, oh, please - but I'm tired of kidding myself. Our party has really trodden so far off the beaten path.

Are you me? Did I write the above? You are describing how I feel about this mess to a tee.

24 posted on 02/01/2008 12:16:37 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: tlb

“It was funny if you saw it.”

Nothing about McCain is funny.


25 posted on 02/01/2008 5:22:22 AM PST by sweetiepiezer (GO MITT........GO MITT..........GO MITT...........)
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To: AllseeingEye33
I almost posted this too. Until I searched and found NUMEROUS threads already.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1963009/posts

26 posted on 02/01/2008 6:01:14 AM PST by Tatze (I'm in a state of taglinelessness!)
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To: TBP
I agree. That would have been a true "Mr. Straight Talk", but no ...

Please wake up(!), Republican voters.

27 posted on 02/01/2008 6:24:32 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: AllseeingEye33
JOHN MCCAIN - Better to rule in Hell than to serve in Heaven.
28 posted on 02/01/2008 6:29:38 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: AllseeingEye33; Admin Moderator

How come this is not in breaking news?


29 posted on 02/01/2008 6:36:48 AM PST by HOYA97 (Hoya Saxa = What Rocks)
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To: Texas Eagle

“Is it true that John McKerry.....errr...McCain was a Vietnam POW?”

Don’t know if it is true, but supposedly Kerry was quoted as saying that McCain asked him to choose him as his VP when Kerry won the nomination. Anyone know if this is true?


30 posted on 02/01/2008 6:41:52 AM PST by seekthetruth
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To: HOYA97

The article was published LAST March...we’simply been a little slow on the uptake. I guess we never thought it would come to this...


31 posted on 02/01/2008 6:45:36 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Please wake up(!), Republican voters.

My sense is that Republican voters are awake. It's the damn independents and Democrats that have been allowed to vote in 80% of the Republican primaries.

The RNC must correct this situation, or RINOs will continue to rule. I guess this is what the RNC wants.

32 posted on 02/01/2008 6:50:40 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Don't blame me - I'm a Fredhead!)
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To: SE Mom

Sorry I did not realize that.


33 posted on 02/01/2008 7:05:57 AM PST by HOYA97 (Hoya Saxa = What Rocks)
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To: HOYA97

No need for being sorry- lot’s of us had forgotten it.

Then there’s this:
http://www.azcentral.com/news/specials/mccain/articles/0301mccainbio-chapter11.html


34 posted on 02/01/2008 7:34:53 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: STARWISE

Ping to # 34 link


35 posted on 02/01/2008 7:36:28 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom; Laverne; rodguy911; maica; maine-iac7; Bahbah; Fudd Fan; tiredoflaundry; NordP; ...

MUST READ!

Good to see his rogue history
sequentially laid out. Sure
documents his intense desire
to thwart Bush whenever possible.

He sure is no friend to conservatives,
just furthering his own quirky agenda.
There’s no predicting the deals he’d
make with his “colleagues” in the
back rooms of Congress as CIC.

Thanks for posting. God save us from
another egomaniac.


36 posted on 02/01/2008 9:01:13 AM PST by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: AllseeingEye33
Romney's ad against McCain in FLorida showed the news clip where McCain said he would consider running as Kerry's VP. All these meetings are damning but the evidence rests with McCain's own words.

You Tube= McCain Entertained Idea Of Being Kerry's VP

37 posted on 02/01/2008 9:04:05 AM PST by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: AllseeingEye33

McCain consistently shot down the rumors, though Weaver acknowledged this week that the senator did talk to Democrats about leaving the GOP.

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From January 21st until Jeffords threw the control of the Senate to the dems, McCain was doing everything he could to put roadblocks in the way of President Bush getting anything that he had campaigned on through the Congress. He was playing with Daschle to make himself feel like the most important man in theSenate —— because of his intractable anger against President Bush.

He would be a disaster if he would become the Chief Executive of our country. Of course, he never will.


38 posted on 02/01/2008 9:46:44 AM PST by maica (Romney '08)
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To: sweetiepiezer

Nothing about McCain is funny.

^^^^^

My sentiments exactly.


39 posted on 02/01/2008 9:48:33 AM PST by maica (Romney '08)
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To: AllseeingEye33

Any Republican that votes for McCain should consider a party switch themselves.


40 posted on 02/01/2008 9:51:25 AM PST by DesScorp
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To: AllseeingEye33

I would like to see McCain asked this question publicly—maybe if there is another debate.....and if it is true, he needs to be asked “WHY”?


41 posted on 02/01/2008 9:55:19 AM PST by stockstrader
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