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Buried WMD Scoop
Wall Street Journal ^ | 2-1-08 | WSJ

Posted on 02/01/2008 10:03:53 AM PST by SeafoodGumbo

Journalists are taught never to "bury the lead." Yet it looks as if that's precisely what CBS's "60 Minutes" did in reporter Scott Pelley's fascinating interview Sunday with George Piro, the FBI agent who debriefed Saddam Hussein following his capture in December 2003.

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TOPICS: Editorial; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 60minutes; cbsnews; fbi; journalists; piro; saddam; wmd

1 posted on 02/01/2008 10:03:56 AM PST by SeafoodGumbo
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Mr. Piro: “The folks that he needed to reconstitute his program are still there.”

Mr. Pelley: “And that was his intention?”

Mr. Piro: “Yes.”

Mr. Pelley: “What weapons of mass destruction did he intend to pursue again once he had the opportunity?”

Mr. Piro: “He wanted to pursue all of WMD. So he wanted to reconstitute his entire WMD program.”

Mr. Pelley: “Chemical, biological, even nuclear.”

Mr. Piro: “Yes.”


2 posted on 02/01/2008 10:08:18 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

One reply..............????
“Mr. Pelley: “Chemical, biological, even nuclear.”

Would have been a lot of web talk had he succeeded!


3 posted on 02/01/2008 10:09:32 AM PST by cowdog77 (Circle the Wagons)
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To: SeafoodGumbo
Duplicate
4 posted on 02/01/2008 10:16:05 AM PST by ASA Vet
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To: SeafoodGumbo

The unspoken reason of the Iraq war is somewhat illuded to in this story. The Persion Gulf War, no fly zones and the embargo was weakening Iraq. Saddam knew this so he kept the WMD pretense going to keep Iran at bay. The US also knew that Iraq was weak and soon would not be able to control the Iranian backed Shia element. (Shia almost took out Saddam in 1992, but the US did not have the no fly zone.) The benefit of the Iraq War is containment of Iran, something Saddam was no longer capable of doing.


5 posted on 02/01/2008 10:18:45 AM PST by 11th Commandment
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To: ASA Vet

D’oh. I usually check, but forgot to this time.


6 posted on 02/01/2008 10:19:14 AM PST by SeafoodGumbo
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To: SeafoodGumbo

So much for Bush Lied.


7 posted on 02/01/2008 10:24:05 AM PST by golfisnr1 (Democrats are like roaches - hard to get rid of.)
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To: 11th Commandment
The benefit of the Iraq War is containment of Iran, something Saddam was no longer capable of doing.

There you go, giving away the store secrets again. It is in this light that Gulf War II should be viewed.

8 posted on 02/01/2008 10:27:58 AM PST by AbeKrieger (There is a special place in Hell for Lyndon Johnson.)
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To: 11th Commandment; All

“The benefit of the Iraq War is containment of Iran, something Saddam was no longer capable of doing.”

such a concept, IF truly accurate, was made necessary by the “realists” (Scowcroft, et al) who succeeded in preventing us from going to baghdad in 1991

they gave the iranian mullahs, their intel networks and special ops another ten years to radicalize the iraqi shia before the fall of saddam


9 posted on 02/01/2008 10:28:39 AM PST by Wuli
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To: SeafoodGumbo

I knew from the start that Bush was not lying....I suspect most of you knew it too.


10 posted on 02/01/2008 10:30:04 AM PST by mtnwmn (mtnwmn)
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To: 11th Commandment
The benefit of the Iraq War is containment of Iran, something Saddam was no longer capable of doing.

Bingo! I always tell any moonbats within listening distance to consult a map:

Iraq? Check.
Afghanistan? Check.
Kuwait, Qatar, UAE? Check.
Oman? Check.
Turkmenistan? Check.
Azerbaijan? Check.

11 posted on 02/01/2008 10:34:13 AM PST by Philistone (If someone tells you it's for the children, he believes that YOU are a child.)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

It’s an articleof religious faith with liberals that “Bush lied” so they’ll never admit to any of this, even though it was on their program, “60 Minutes.”


12 posted on 02/01/2008 11:18:16 AM PST by TBP
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To: SeafoodGumbo

Interesting series of 3 days of interviews here by David Cerullo with Former Iraqi General George Sada, who is a Christian....the only Christian who was on Sadddam’s war board and who was an advisor to Saddam who survived....and who has written a book about Saddam’s reign.

He calls what American has done as “liberation” of Iraq~!

http://inspirationtoday.com/insptoday/videoarchive.aspx

He declares of course there were WMD’s under Saddam and explains how Saddam had their two passenger jets transformed into cargo carriers and flew out his WMD’s over to Syria in the guise of taking humanitarian aid to Syria when its large dam collapsed (with help) and flooded Syria’s province around that dam. Saddam also sent convoys of 16 wheelers to Syria during that time with same.

Just listen - very interesting.


13 posted on 02/01/2008 11:26:20 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: 11th Commandment
I always thought the toppling of Iran, not it's containment, was the reason to go into Iraq first. When Bush never followed up with efforts to subvert the Mullahs, it became apparent that he thought differently. Had containment been his intention, a few well-placed bullets in Iraq and some bought off generals could have done the trick. Tarik Azziz and his buddies would have kept the regime going, if less brutally than Saddam, and with Saddam's elimination, would have been fearful of restarting a WMD program.

No, the only sensible point of Iraq was as a stepping stone to Iran, the source of most terror since 1979. What we have accomplished in Iraq was not worth the price if Iran does not fall.

And don't get me started on Saudi Arabia.

14 posted on 02/01/2008 11:33:24 AM PST by Defiant (Dems=Bolsheviks; GOP=Mensheviks. America=Free Market Capitalism and Liberty.)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
Google the Satellite wonk that was just a kid running Google's Satellite.

The interview is stunning. He was zooming the camera over the area for grins and giggles and caught the caravan. Interesting to say the least.

15 posted on 02/01/2008 11:37:21 AM PST by taildragger (The Answer is Fred Thompson, I do not care what the question is.....)
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To: 11th Commandment

Nice analysis. Everything else is bs. Saddam’s generals, and even Saddam himself admitted this to the military and US interrogators.

Saddam wanted to project that he had WMDs to keep Iran at bay. He never thought the US would invade, which was precisely why we invaded. containing Iran was a secondary benefit. The true logic behind going to war was to show this part of the world we were willing to “come and get you”.

Of course liberals destroyed any positive effect we created with their treasonous anti-war political smear campaign. If we could deport the liberals, we could be living in paradise. I will be glad to trade them for conservative Mexicans.


16 posted on 02/01/2008 1:44:45 PM PST by ChinaThreat (s)
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To: Defiant

I think we did intend on going to Iran. You can think the yellow bellied liberals for putting a stop to our goals. They did more than Iran could ever do to stop us from stopping them.


17 posted on 02/01/2008 1:46:24 PM PST by ChinaThreat (s)
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To: taildragger

yes the interview is stunning. This General’s book should be sent to every Congressman/Senator.


18 posted on 02/01/2008 2:48:58 PM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: ChinaThreat
Not so sure we planned to go to Iran. I think Rumsfeld wanted to take a left turn to Syria, and he might have wanted to go to Iran, but there were a lot of things that would have been happening in 2003 and 2004 if we were going to get active in Iran, and nothing was happening during that time frame, before the liberal propaganda war really took hold. Michael Ledeen would write an article every week, begging them to go "faster, please" and nothing was going on. No support for the opposition, no threats for bad behavior, no cross-border messages, nothing.

My opinion of the strategic importance of Iraq would have been different had I known there would be no follow up. It is as though after D-Day, the Allies grabbed a piece of Normandy and stayed put, instead of chasing the enemy back to its homeland. You always keep pushing the enemy, even if, in this war, the enemy is not arrayed in formations in front of you.

19 posted on 02/01/2008 3:16:50 PM PST by Defiant (Dems=Bolsheviks; GOP=Mensheviks. America=Free Market Capitalism and Liberty.)
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To: Defiant

I think you make good points. More than 1/2 the people in the USA apparently don’t want to recognize the fact we are at war. Until we do, you are correct. We took a beach head and are simply holding it while taking fire. Damn FUBAR if you know what i mean.


20 posted on 02/01/2008 7:02:18 PM PST by ChinaThreat (s)
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To: SeafoodGumbo

thanks, bfl


21 posted on 02/01/2008 11:13:12 PM PST by neverdem (I have to hope for a brokered GOP Convention. It can't get any worse.)
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To: SeafoodGumbo
Madeline Halfbright was on Laura's show today. She kept repeating the mantra:"We had Sadamm in a Box" the was no point attacking him etc....

No mention of all the poor folks stuck inside that box with him of course.

22 posted on 02/01/2008 11:18:59 PM PST by lawnguy (The wand chooses the wizard, Mr. Potter.)
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To: lawnguy
Madeline Halfbright was on Laura's show today. She kept repeating the mantra:"We had Sadamm in a Box" the was no point attacking him etc....

1. Madeline ignores the words of the President she served.
Bill Cinton said

The hard fact is that so long as Saddam remains in power, he threatens the well-being of his people, the peace of his region, the security of the world. The best way to end that threat once and for all is with a new Iraqi government --[snip]

2. Madeline ignores the words of a BBC analyst

Analysis: Saddam steps up defiance, 1 December, 2000, By BBC Middle East analyst Roger Hardy

In the last few weeks Saddam has shown he is much less isolated - both in the region and internationally - than in the past.[snip]

...have to face the reality that Western policy on Iraq is less effective and less coherent than at any time in the last decade.

3. Daydream-believer Madeline ignores reality

Containment of Iraq was failing more each day.

1. The oil-for-food program was corrupt
2. The weapons inspections were a farce
3. There are indications that Saddam was co-operating with Qadhafi on programs to develop weapons in Libya
4. US and allied planes were targeted
5. Uninspected flights to Baghdad gutted the sanctions
6. Terrorists were training in Iraq
7. Saddam supported terrorism - paying $25,000 to each family of a suicide bomber and $10,000 to the families of other Palestinians killed in the intifadah.
8. Saddam created the Jerusalem Army [the Jaysh al-Quds] to "liberate" Jerusalem
9. Saddam refused to destroy his Samoud 2 missiles which violated the UN mandate
10. Saddam brutalized our fellow human beings

Saddam was thumbing his nose at decent people as he rewarded his collaborators.

Bush interrupted Saddam's comeback on the world stage.

23 posted on 02/02/2008 6:35:06 AM PST by syriacus (HUCKIAVELLIAN : (adj.) hypocritical; slick; glib; charming and, yet, sneakily nasty.)
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