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Dr. Dobson: I Will Never Vote for McCain
NewsMax ^ | February 1, 2008

Posted on 02/01/2008 2:07:00 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

While John McCain has risen to the top of the heap among contenders for the Republican presidential nomination, Focus on the Family founder James Dobson remains adamant that he will not support McCain’s bid for the White House.

Dobson, one of the nation’s most influential evangelical Christians, declared more than a year ago that he wouldn't support McCain under any circumstances, saying McCain didn't support traditional marriage values.

A Dobson spokesman told the New York Times’ David Kirkpatrick Wednesday that he stood by that position, and as a matter of conscience could never vote for the Arizona Senator.

According to the paper, Dobson is joined by a slew of other prominent conservatives who oppose McCain on a number of issues:

Talk radio host Mark Levin urged visitors to the National Review’s Web site to “rally for Romney” to ward off a McCain win, saying: “Conservatives need to act now, before it is too late.”

Talker Rush Limbaugh told listeners on Thursday: “McCain is in a lot of these places not actually the Republican candidate. He is the candidate of enough Republicans, but [also] independents and moderates and probably even some liberals.”

Pat Toomey, president of the anti-tax organization Club for Growth, said in comments reported by the New York Times: “I have yet to see McCain make any attempts to reach out to free market conservatives.”

Conservatives fault McCain for voting against President Bush’s tax cuts and a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage, and for supporting embryonic stem cell research, looser immigration rules and stricter environmental regulations.

Conservatives were particularly irked when McCain made a deal with Democrats to break a deadlock on judicial nominations, according to the Times.

Anger over that compromise was rekindled this week when Wall Street Journal columnist John Fund wrote that McCain had privately criticized Bush’s Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito because “he wore his conservatism on his sleeve.” The McCain campaign denied that report.

Following McCain successes in early primary states, however, other conservatives are beginning to warm up to his campaign:

Americans for Tax Reform President Grover Norquist, who previously opposed a McCain nomination, said: “He has moved in the right direction strongly and forcefully on taxes.”

Former McCain foe Tony Perkins, a prominent Christian conservative, told the Times: “I have no residual issue with John McCain,” adding the candidate needed to “better communicate” his stand on social issues.

Richard Land, an official with the South Baptist Convention, agreed, noting that McCain “is strongly pro-life.” He said: “When I hear Rush Limbaugh say that a McCain nomination would destroy the Republican Party, what I want to say to Rush is, ‘You need to get out of the studio more and talk to real people.’”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: Colorado
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Good for him!
1 posted on 02/01/2008 2:07:03 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good for Dr. Dobson! A man of principle.


2 posted on 02/01/2008 2:08:36 PM PST by littlehouse36 (Forced charity is an oxymoron)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, Dobson, you had a chance to vote for a principled conservative. You decided it’d be more fun to slam him for not kissing your ring.

And *now* he wants to complain about the front-runner?


3 posted on 02/01/2008 2:09:11 PM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

His opinion is no longer influential.

He torpedoed the candidate that could have been a win for everyone.


4 posted on 02/01/2008 2:10:22 PM PST by Politicalmom (I'm the aunt of a brand-new Naval Officer. I'm proud of you, Kristi.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Interesting. Thanks for posting.


5 posted on 02/01/2008 2:10:53 PM PST by PGalt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Americans for Tax Reform President Grover Norquist, who previously opposed a McCain nomination, said: “He has moved in the right direction strongly and forcefully on taxes.”

But if certain other people moved right on certain issues YEARS ago they are called Flip Flopper.

People who support McCain care more about POWER than principle.
6 posted on 02/01/2008 2:11:11 PM PST by elizabetty (John McCain Hates Michael Reagan...........John McCain Hates Me, too. The feeling is mutual.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...what I want to say to Rush is, ‘You need to get out of the studio more and talk to real people.’”

Excellent! Send him my way. I've got some things to say.

Rush, you're right on target. Keep it up.

7 posted on 02/01/2008 2:11:11 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Wanted: Party, f/t, cons, refs g/b 20yrs, no RINOs, no amnesty sptrs, 1 vote per 4 yrs negotiable)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well. McCain must have neglected to suck up to Dobson, and this is his reward.


8 posted on 02/01/2008 2:11:18 PM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LOL, now its time for all the “true conservatives”, who have just recently said mean things about Dobson because of his words about Fred Thompson, to now say how much they love Dobson! Let the love affair commence! /sarcasm/

Isn’t forgiveness great!

Barf.


10 posted on 02/01/2008 2:11:45 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Richard Land, an official with the South Baptist Convention

Needs to seek the face of YHvH and not a communist traitor.

11 posted on 02/01/2008 2:11:55 PM PST by XeniaSt (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redheemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m with Dr. D on this one. McCain would be a disaster for both the US and the conservative movement.

I’ll either vote third party or sit it out.


12 posted on 02/01/2008 2:11:59 PM PST by 1curiousmind (Romney/Thompson 08 - "We're not electing a Sunday school teacher, but a President." Falwell 5/07)
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To: Politicalmom; highball

I completely agree, but at least he won’t support Juan McAztlan. I’m starting to agree with Ann Coulter.


13 posted on 02/01/2008 2:11:59 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Second To None!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Joe Loserman turned the tide for McCain. That says it all.


14 posted on 02/01/2008 2:12:35 PM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: highball

Here! Here! or should I say “ditto”


15 posted on 02/01/2008 2:12:49 PM PST by katiedidit1
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To: dinoparty

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.


16 posted on 02/01/2008 2:13:24 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Second To None!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Oh Oh, I guess this means John McCain is going to hate Dr. Dobson.

Oh well, I guess I'm in good company then 'cause I'm not going to vote for him either...

17 posted on 02/01/2008 2:14:04 PM PST by Friend_from_the_Frozen_North (If you are, as Rush would say, "A Glittering Jewel of Colossal Ignorance" don't waste my time...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Kudos to Dr. Dobson.

McLame is no conservative...social or otherwise. Still working for shamnesty, despite his rhetoric of the past weeks.


18 posted on 02/01/2008 2:14:21 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ross Perot was very close with McCain and his ex-wife. He stopped speaking to McCain after he dumped his ex-wife—the one who endured all those years of him in cativity—to marry ultra-rich Cindy. Perot said McCain is “disgusting” for what he did to her.


19 posted on 02/01/2008 2:14:38 PM PST by montag813
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If the Rev. Dr. Dobson is going to weigh in on the Presidential campaign, which he has every right to, telling us who he is not going to vote for; who is he going to vote for? Not vote? Does he encourage others to vote for anybody else but McCain? He didn’t complete his commentary.
20 posted on 02/01/2008 2:15:02 PM PST by CarryingOn (Spread the message every day, like your life depended on it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obviously I agree with Dobson on this issue, but Dobson failed to speak up for any conservatives when we still had some in the race. Stopping McCain is job one, but we wouldn’t be here had conservatives supported conservative candidates in the first place. Wait too long for perfection to come along, and you wind up where we have wound up.


21 posted on 02/01/2008 2:15:13 PM PST by marron
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Kiss off Dobson. I’m about up to HERE with the Christain Coalition.....


22 posted on 02/01/2008 2:15:13 PM PST by egginanest ( We don't know what we want, but we are ready to bite somebody to get it. -Will Rogers-)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hasn’t this loud mouthed lout spouted enough this year?


23 posted on 02/01/2008 2:15:20 PM PST by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: dinoparty

I don’t give a crap what Dobson says. His views would never change mine. I find him as irrelevant now as I did before.


24 posted on 02/01/2008 2:15:28 PM PST by rintense (You don't advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. Piss off McCain and Huck!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Had he supported Thompson, he wouldn’t be facing his current predicament.


25 posted on 02/01/2008 2:15:36 PM PST by sourcery (Electile Disfunction: The inability to get excited about any of the available candidates)
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To: egginanest

Christain = Christian


26 posted on 02/01/2008 2:15:53 PM PST by egginanest ( We don't know what we want, but we are ready to bite somebody to get it. -Will Rogers-)
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To: highball

Well, to be fair...Dobson wouldn’t vote for Mitt, Fred, or Rudy.....
He is in the tank for the Huckster.

Mormons are cultists...and Fred is COC which is also a cult according to Dobson.


27 posted on 02/01/2008 2:16:47 PM PST by JaneNC (I)
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To: sourcery

Exactly.


28 posted on 02/01/2008 2:17:58 PM PST by marron
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

MY FANTASY:
MCCain wins GOP (that’s not the fantasy), Hillary or Obama win Dem, Gore and Bloomberg both decide to run also. Fred Thompson comes swooping in third (or is it fifth?) party and wipes out all the liberal pretenders.

Go Fred!


29 posted on 02/01/2008 2:18:11 PM PST by Squidpup ("Fight the Good Fight")
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To: CarryingOn

I don’t believe that Dobson is a minister; I think he’s a layman that happens to hold sway due to his radio show, books and columns. He is a child psychologist, though, IIRC.


30 posted on 02/01/2008 2:18:15 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Second To None!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The big problem is that the conservative opposition to McCain is split. A large segment of that opposition will continue to flush their votes down the Huckabee toilet. Since that’s the case, there’s no stopping McCain.


31 posted on 02/01/2008 2:18:28 PM PST by samtheman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nah, he threw Fred under the bus. He is part of the reason we are in this spot. The man intentionally split the evangelical vote.


32 posted on 02/01/2008 2:18:45 PM PST by Dead Dog (Classic Liberalism..AT ALL COSTS)
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To: JaneNC

Do the Baptists consider EVERY OTHER denomination to be a cult?! WTF?!


33 posted on 02/01/2008 2:19:29 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Second To None!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wonder if Dobson didn’t mouth off about Thompson, we would still have a Conservative in the race?


34 posted on 02/01/2008 2:19:42 PM PST by mnehrling (Glenfiddich/Macallan 08)
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To: samtheman

That’s why Gomer Huckleberry will be Juan McAztlan’s running nate, mark my words!


35 posted on 02/01/2008 2:20:21 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Second To None!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...he wouldn't support McCain under any circumstances, saying McCain didn't support traditional marriage values. A Dobson spokesman told the New York Times’ David Kirkpatrick Wednesday that he stood by that position, and as a matter of conscience could never vote for the Arizona Senator.

BTTT!

36 posted on 02/01/2008 2:20:30 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: rintense
Dobson's opposition is worth 15 points to McCain.

There is no political figure currently active who is more despised than Dobson.

37 posted on 02/01/2008 2:20:30 PM PST by Jim Noble (Trails of trouble, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I cannot vote for a liberal. Therefore I will not vote for McCain if he wins the republican nomination. It will be the first time since 1984 (18 then) that I have not voted for a president, each time Republican.

Can’t do it. No matter how many of you military guys rally around one of your own. Can’t do it. He is a power hungry, mean, not very intelligent liberal. And he uses you guys and his military background as a crutch to get elected. Can’t you see it.

I will not vote for him. Period. End of discussion.

And I sponsor a College Conservatives club where I work.


38 posted on 02/01/2008 2:21:13 PM PST by morkfork (Candygram for Mongo)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Juan McAzlan, funny, but I prefer to call him McClinton and now I’ll borrow you Juan idea - “Juan McClinton”

Explained to my 24 yr. old son couple a days ago how McClinton is worse than Clinton, glad to see Ann Coulter came to the same conclusion.

Great minds must think alike!


39 posted on 02/01/2008 2:21:58 PM PST by ZRicochet
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To: highball
Well, Dobson, you had a chance to vote for a principled conservative. You decided it’d be more fun to slam him for not kissing your ring.

Bingo. The single-issue social conservatives who DIDN'T get behind Thompson, and instead went for Huck, have given us McCain.

FDT wanted to overturn Roe v. Wade, which WOULD be achievable with another SCOTUS justice or two. But "Focusing" on a Human Life Amendment as the only goal is counter-productive. It WOULDN'T happen in one or even two terms. The first step, an achievable step, is overturning Roe v. Wade.

That said, TWO-THIRDS of Republicans do NOT want McCain. But because we have been split among several candidates, One-Third McCain has been able to take the lead.

40 posted on 02/01/2008 2:22:11 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (Vote Romney on Tuesday or else it's McQueeg!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, little does he know a vote for Huck is a vote for McCain....so in a sense he IS voting for McCain. LOL


41 posted on 02/01/2008 2:22:13 PM PST by JaneNC (I)
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To: Dead Dog

Few here will admit it, but Fred wasn’t all that great either. I supported him, but that was despite some problems I had with him.


42 posted on 02/01/2008 2:22:25 PM PST by B Knotts (If McCain wins, we lose.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Richard Land, an official with the South Baptist Convention, agreed, noting that McCain “is strongly pro-life.” He said: “When I hear Rush Limbaugh say that a McCain nomination would destroy the Republican Party, what I want to say to Rush is, ‘You need to get out of the studio more and talk to real people.’””

Good words from the nominal head of the SBC.


43 posted on 02/01/2008 2:22:36 PM PST by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

After attacking Fred`s faith, Dobson has zero credibility left.


44 posted on 02/01/2008 2:23:47 PM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Willard, conservatives don't vote for liberals. GO NOBODY!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What a screwed-up primary. Who to believe? Some people say one thing, others say the opposite?


45 posted on 02/01/2008 2:24:19 PM PST by rawhide
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To: Jim Noble; rintense
Feel free to hate Dr. Dobson all you want.

Just remember. It was Christian Evangelicals that sent a Republican to the WH in 2000 and 2004.

And if Dobson and the millions of Christians who listen to him are ignored next November?

Hail to the Beast.....

46 posted on 02/01/2008 2:24:51 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

There is no f’ing way McCain will lose next Tuesday.

Romney will go down in flames, and it is incredibly sad.

The single reason why McCain will win is Huckabee.

His being in the race keeps Romney from being on top.


47 posted on 02/01/2008 2:25:13 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: Squidpup

You need some fantasy upgrades . Try reading Women Woman comics just before retiring .


48 posted on 02/01/2008 2:25:27 PM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
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To: elizabetty
But if certain other people moved right on certain issues YEARS ago they are called Flip Flopper.

Ain't it amazin' how some people can change their positions and be called a "principled hero" yet others who change even less are called "flip flop liberals" or whatever the slam some are now calling Mitt Romney.

49 posted on 02/01/2008 2:26:12 PM PST by Edit35
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To: Responsibility2nd

And those same evangelicals will give the nod to McCain by voting for Huckabee. We’re screwed either way with Hillary or McCain/Huckabee.


50 posted on 02/01/2008 2:26:52 PM PST by rintense (You don't advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. Piss off McCain and Huck!)
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