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Battle heats up over coed-shower law
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | February 2, 2008

Posted on 02/02/2008 4:47:54 AM PST by Man50D

A war of words has erupted in Montgomery County, Md., where a citizens group is nearing the number of signatures needed to force a new law granting special protections to those with "gender identity" issues to a vote of the people.

Citizens for a Responsible Government must present the signatures of 12,500 registered voters to the county's board of election supervisors by Monday, with another 12,500 due Feb. 16. Officials said they have 10,000 and expect to meet the first deadline.

"People are energized; they really feel betrayed by their county government," said Ruth Jacobs, president of the group leading the work on the initiative. "This issue [affects] the privacy of women and children."

But it was her exchange with County Executive Isiah Leggett, who signed the controversial plan into law, that has heated up. In response to her concerns about the issue, he warned that she has "an obligation to state the facts."

She had asked him to support the citizens' right to vote on the plan because it potentially would open women's restrooms, shower rooms and locker rooms in health clubs, schools and community pools to transsexual men.

Leggett said that was a misrepresentation, because both he and the county council have articulated the view that such facilities are not included.

"Your reading of the terms of the bill is in error … If you are in disagreement with this, that is your right," he told her. "However, you have an obligation to state the facts."

So Susan Jamison, a lawyer for the citizens' group, weighed in with a rebuttal.

"With all due respect Mr. Leggett, it is important that we clarify exactly what the issues and risks here truly are.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: montgomerycounty; perverts; unisex

1 posted on 02/02/2008 4:47:55 AM PST by Man50D
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To: Man50D

Liberals continuously want to make America a freak show. Glad I’m out of the Peoples Republic of Maryland!!


2 posted on 02/02/2008 5:02:55 AM PST by Abbeville Conservative (Voted for Fred but now for Mitt. Huck sucks and McCain's deranged.)
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To: Man50D
"People are energized; they really feel betrayed by their county government," said Ruth Jacobs, president of the group leading the work on the initiative.

I don't know why these democrat voters feel betrayed since they were the very ones who elected the all democrat County Commission and the buffoon Ike Leggett to their exalted posts last November.

They're now reaping what they sowed and and are gnawing their tongues and gnashing their teeth because Leggett and the commission is now pursuing the blantantly homesexual/transgender agenda throughout the county.

They're only getting what they asked for...

3 posted on 02/02/2008 5:09:53 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (“We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!” --Duncan Hunter)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
What's the old saying about the Nazis? You know I never said anything when they came after......

The same thing applies here. These folks never uttered a peep when the county council was trying to ban people from smoking in their own homes. Now that the council is trying to pass an ordinance that would have a direct impact on them they want something done. It's hard to feel sorry for them. Maybe if they spoke up before this insanity could have been stopped a long time ago.

4 posted on 02/02/2008 5:16:27 AM PST by Abbeville Conservative (Voted for Fred but now for Mitt. Huck sucks and McCain's deranged.)
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To: Man50D

Bravo Zulu, Dr. Jacobs. Charlie Mike


5 posted on 02/02/2008 5:47:22 AM PST by NonValueAdded (What Would Hobson Choose?)
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To: Abbeville Conservative

Will not solve your problems.
One liberal, town,county or state passes some dumbass law/ordinance, then when court upholds whatever stupidity as been proposed all the liberal town,county and state pols start writing similar legislation.
The problem is that people not affected by first legislation/ordinance either do not know about, or say that is not my community therefore will not affect me.
Not realizing that whole purpose of original legislation is to get court approval, so that ,the protected class of people can either prey on or feed off the unprotected class of people.
In this case I can see pedophile claiming Gender class protection with government sanction,and taking to court to affirm into law

Sorry not ranting at you, subjects such as these just really torque me off


6 posted on 02/02/2008 5:47:55 AM PST by Nailbiter
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To: Man50D
Montgomery County, Md
Sounds like these people are the east coast clan of the Berkley Hatriots. Have they tried throwing the Marines out of town too?
7 posted on 02/02/2008 5:51:55 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Man50D

Heh!Heh!So the high school sophomores REALLY do run the county!!!


8 posted on 02/02/2008 5:54:10 AM PST by mo
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To: Man50D

This will never come to a vote; the Leftists that run Montgomery County will not permit it.


9 posted on 02/02/2008 5:54:58 AM PST by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Man50D
I grew up there and it's for good reason that it's called Monkey County by most of the hostages..er, residents.
10 posted on 02/02/2008 5:55:02 AM PST by RoadKingSE (How do you know that that light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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To: Abbeville Conservative

“Liberals continuously want to make America a freak show. Glad I’m out of the Peoples Republic of Maryland!!”

........me too!....my daughter is still stuck there and won’t bail until the housing market comes back...she lives in Montgomery county and pays $9000 in property tax...my wife and I were lucky; we got out in the Summer of ‘05 when the real estate market was still strong.


11 posted on 02/02/2008 6:03:37 AM PST by STONEWALLS
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To: Man50D

I’ve said for a long time that if our government wants to pretend that homosexuality is normal we need 4 types of restrooms, not 2. We need: Men (normal), Women (normal), Men (homosexual), Women (homosexual,i.e., lesbian). I guess I never really considered the nuts in the process of trying to change their bodies into something they are not.


12 posted on 02/02/2008 6:09:36 AM PST by libertylover (Liberals: Trying to convert the U.S. into a country the Founding Father's wouldn't recognize.)
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To: Man50D

If a majority of the citizens want to vote to make accommodation for people who feel uncomfortable in their native rest room that within the rights of the majority.

But the way they are doing it imposes an unfair burden on the privacy and safety of women.

A much better way, if they are intent on this course, is to have a small number of single stall, single sink unisex rest rooms. And there is an added benefit. There are a lot more parents who need to take a child of the opposite sex into the rest room than there trans gendered people any way.

Think about a father out with a young daughter - you don’t want to take her into the men’s room not can he go into the women’s room.

A few unisex rest rooms is a much better solution than what these people want.


13 posted on 02/02/2008 6:13:50 AM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: Nailbiter

Well said!


14 posted on 02/02/2008 6:14:13 AM PST by ardara
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To: libertylover

I’ve shared bathrooms and locker rooms with lesbians with never the least problem. Much rather do that than have a male trannie come in.

It’s the men who get out of line, you know.


15 posted on 02/02/2008 6:14:41 AM PST by heartwood
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To: ardara

Thank you
I have used my rant quota for the month


16 posted on 02/02/2008 6:22:45 AM PST by Nailbiter
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To: Man50D
“I need to go shower with the girls. I’ve got ‘gender issues’”
17 posted on 02/02/2008 6:58:59 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: STONEWALLS

We left Cecil County, Maryland, in 1999.

Great move!


18 posted on 02/02/2008 7:31:38 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: gondramB
Think about a father out with a young daughter

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When my oldest daughter was nearly 3, my husband took her for a swim at the local YMCA.

She kept repeating ( in the typical high pitch of toddlers ), “That man has a p*nis! That man has a p*nis!”

19 posted on 02/02/2008 7:36:05 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: wintertime

>> When my oldest daughter was nearly 3, my husband took her for a swim at the local YMCA.

She kept repeating ( in the typical high pitch of toddlers ), “That man has a p*nis! That man has a p*nis!”<<

Oh Lord... the joys of toddlers. :)


20 posted on 02/02/2008 7:38:48 AM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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They’re just trying to make the USA more Abercrobmie and Fitchish! Haven’t you seen the catalog man, it’s so cool! (Sarc.)


21 posted on 02/02/2008 7:53:09 AM PST by crghill (Christianity...setting women free since 0 a.d.)
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To: Abbeville Conservative

America already is a freakshow. Half the electorate votes Democrat.


22 posted on 02/02/2008 8:12:55 AM PST by Savage Beast ("History is not just cruel. It is witty." ~Charles Krauthammer)
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To: Man50D
Leggett is lying through his teeth. Everyone knows his motive is to declare himself of "in-determinant" sex and start hopping into the ladies showers himself.

This guy and his cronies on the county council are perverts.

23 posted on 02/02/2008 8:26:33 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: gondramB
If a majority of the citizens want to vote to make accommodation for people who feel uncomfortable in their native rest room that within the rights of the majority.

You are reading the article wrong. They don't want to allow transexuals into their restrooms they want to prevent males who think they are females from using women's restrooms. The law was just passed allowing this type of behaviour and the citizens want it stopped.

24 posted on 02/02/2008 9:59:53 AM PST by calex59
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To: Man50D
So, we can't have a law against, "Ewwwww!"? I suppose if we did, it would end the career of quite a few celebrities. And co-workers. And family members...

:o)

-Joan

25 posted on 02/02/2008 10:02:55 AM PST by JoanVarga ("¿Por qué no te calles?")
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To: calex59

>>You are reading the article wrong. They don’t want to allow transexuals into their restrooms they want to prevent males who think they are females from using women’s restrooms. The law was just passed allowing this type of behaviour and the citizens want it stopped.<<

You are right. I read it wrong. Thanks for catching it.


26 posted on 02/02/2008 11:19:33 AM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: Man50D

Be honest guys. Can you honestly say that at some time in your lustful youth you wouldn’t have claimed ‘gender issues’ just to get to shower naked with a couple of girls you’d had your eye on?

No. Raise your hand.


27 posted on 02/02/2008 11:28:18 AM PST by wildbill
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To: Man50D; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; cindy-true-supporter; ...

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


28 posted on 02/02/2008 3:35:48 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Go see Cloverfield. It's good!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Yup, I just don’t get these Dems.

On many personal issues they get up in arms and don’t want non-traditional things forced on them, but THEY are the 1s who keep being stupid and vote people in who DO support non-traditional.

Why are they shocked when liberal-commie Dems do this? Don’t they read the platforms and beliefs of the party?


29 posted on 02/02/2008 4:03:22 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: gondramB

“you don’t want to take her into the men’s room not can he go into the women’s room.”

Which brings to mind, why don’t they actually “stall-ize” those damn urinals? Why is it such a peep show? Isn’t that bad around homos, too?


30 posted on 02/02/2008 4:07:48 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: gondramB

Actually you were correct.

This is only a “group”. That doesn’t mean the MAJORITY of “citizens” would actually care or want to stop the bill.


31 posted on 02/02/2008 4:11:14 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
>>“you don’t want to take her into the men’s room not can he go into the women’s room.”
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Which brings to mind, why don’t they actually “stall-ize” those damn urinals? Why is it such a peep show?<<

That reminds me - have you seen the Urinal Game? You have to choose which is the appropriate urinal to use in various conditions.

Photobucket

http://gamescene.com/The_Urinal_Game_game.html
32 posted on 02/02/2008 6:50:53 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

>>Actually you were correct.

This is only a “group”. That doesn’t mean the MAJORITY of “citizens” would actually care or want to stop the bill.<<

Thank you, I feel a bit less stupid now.


33 posted on 02/02/2008 6:51:47 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: Man50D
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/104171/starship_troopers_shower_scene/

Just remember, don’t kill the messenger!

34 posted on 02/02/2008 6:54:38 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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