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Boy Dies After Suffering Injuries At Charter School
KXAN ^ | Feb 1, 2008 08:48 PM CST | KXAN

Posted on 02/02/2008 5:22:56 AM PST by mtbopfuyn

Austin, TX -- A 7-year-old boy who was found injured, hanging from a hook in a bathroom at NYOS charter school, died at 2:33 p.m. Friday, Austin police confirmed.

KXAN Austin News on Wednesday reported the child may have suffered from a heart attack. Police said he was in cardiac arrest from a lack of oxygen from the hanging.

The Austin Police Department said the boy was found injured under "suspicious circumstances."

Police said the boy was found hanging by his shirt on a hook in the gym locker room bathroom with his pants down and underwear on. The incident happened at Magnolia McCullough Elementary, one of three NYOS campuses in Austin.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hook; publikskoolz; school; schoolviolence
Prayers for him and his family.
1 posted on 02/02/2008 5:22:57 AM PST by mtbopfuyn
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To: mtbopfuyn

This is so sad. Prayers for the family, and the students and administration of the school.


2 posted on 02/02/2008 5:28:31 AM PST by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: mtbopfuyn
Meanwhile, a thread last night detailed a school's (failed) attempt to suspend a student for having a pen with "Glock" written on it.

Because schools are really, really serious about having zero tolerance for violence. Fah!

3 posted on 02/02/2008 5:32:29 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: mtbopfuyn

To lose a child is a terrible thing. But to lose the child in these circumstances, and then to have to live with it. There are no words.


4 posted on 02/02/2008 5:42:37 AM PST by Clara Lou (~sigh~ '08)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Schools are serious about LOOKING serious about violence. Addressing real violence means you have to admit it’s happening...


5 posted on 02/02/2008 5:43:09 AM PST by Kay Ludlow (Free market, but cautious about what I support with my dollars)
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To: mtbopfuyn
A 7-year-old boy who was found injured, hanging from a hook in a bathroom at NYOS charter school, died

Seven years old. Hung up like meat.
6 posted on 02/02/2008 5:58:35 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: Kay Ludlow
Schools are serious about LOOKING serious about violence. Addressing real violence means you have to admit it’s happening...

It also means you can't run away when you see or hear a fight breaking out, or bullying taking place. And if you don't run away, you may either (1) become the victim of the attack yourself, or (2) hauled into court by the perpetrators' parents.

7 posted on 02/02/2008 6:01:39 AM PST by Steely Tom (Steely's First Law of the Main Stream Media: if it doesn't advance the agenda, it's not news.)
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To: mtbopfuyn

Very tragic. Probably a prank by older students who had no idea what could happen.


8 posted on 02/02/2008 6:09:07 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (Alas, Fred!)
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To: mtbopfuyn
Police said the boy was found hanging by his shirt on a hook in the gym locker room bathroom with his pants down and underwear on.

Bullies...

9 posted on 02/02/2008 6:11:21 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (“We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!” --Duncan Hunter)
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To: mtbopfuyn
Frankly I would be surprised if this is anything more than just a silly prank gone bad, really bad. As bad as a prank can go. I’m sure kids in that school have seen the same treatment given a kid on TV and the laugh track made it seem hilarious. On its face it’s pretty funny, but at those kids’ age all sorts of slapstick stuff if funny, if only to them.

My Mom used to say “Monkey see, monkey do!” She meant it not as an insult, though it can double quite well for that, but as a learning moment for us kids.

I have no children at home and my grandchildren are all too old to watch kid’s tv, but I do know that many of the programs have the kids doing things that are potentially dangerous. Kids mimic what they see, in language, clothes and behavior. And sadly most kids watch tv without their parents, so there is no one to point out the dangers of things they might see.

The whole thing is sad beyond words, except for those in the prayers that I offer for everyone involved. A lot of lives have been changed forever.

10 posted on 02/02/2008 6:14:43 AM PST by jwparkerjr (Sigh . . .)
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To: mtbopfuyn

And still there are those who say bullying and being bullied is a normal part of childhood and growing up.


11 posted on 02/02/2008 6:27:43 AM PST by Wilderness Conservative
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To: mtbopfuyn
I have been researching sociopathy/psychopathy (synonyms) and have been learning of the shocking prevalence of this "utter lack of conscience and empathy/emotion" in children of very early ages.

The evidence keeps growing that we are seeing an increasing number of "born psychopaths."

I highly recommend two books: "The Sociopath Next Door," by Martha Stout , PhD, and "Without Conscience," by Robert Hare, PhD. Both books are in paperback and available widely online and at Borders or Barnes and Noble.

12 posted on 02/02/2008 6:30:39 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: mtbopfuyn

I like the way they put “charter school” up there. I don’t remember the last time I saw the word “public school” like that.

“Shooting massacre at Public High School”.


13 posted on 02/02/2008 6:34:36 AM PST by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: I still care

W I don’t remember the last time I saw the word “public school” like that.
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ell they would have to label that “Government school”


14 posted on 02/02/2008 6:38:42 AM PST by xrmusn
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

Wow, sounds like bedtime reading to me.


15 posted on 02/02/2008 6:39:19 AM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: mtbopfuyn

I am so sorry.


16 posted on 02/02/2008 6:41:53 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Kay Ludlow
Schools are serious about LOOKING serious about violence. Addressing real violence means you have to admit it’s happening...

...and doing something with the perps. No hiding behind ADA, Federal regulations, PC crappola. Whatever would they do?
17 posted on 02/02/2008 6:43:41 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth ('Yellow is mellow, but brown goes down.' -- The Clinton campaign slogan for 2008)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

I don’t know if it’s really bad seeds but bad or rather lack of parenting now days. Flame on, but a few sound swats with daddy’s belt or mom’s flyswat at an early age would straighten the majority out.


18 posted on 02/02/2008 6:47:52 AM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: jwparkerjr
"Frankly I would be surprised if this is anything more than just a silly prank gone bad, really bad."

I would bet you're right on that. We used to do silly things like this when I was in school. I used to take pictures for our high school yearbook, and I took one of a kid that some of the senior guys had picked up and hung by the back of his belt on the flagpole. The kid was actually smiling and waving at the camera. I took a couple of shots, wished him good luck, and went back to class. I'm not sure how he even got down. (The photo did make the yearbook, and he was kept busy signing his picture, so he got a little boost in popularity out of it in the end).

I suppose things have changed some, as there really wasn't any malice in most of the pranks we did back then. Looking back, one realizes that there was always the chance that something could have happened that you never meant to happen, but that is how life is. This incident is one of those times. It's a tragedy, and sadly, all who were involved will have to live with it the rest of their lives.

19 posted on 02/02/2008 6:52:16 AM PST by Pablo64 (What is popular is not always right. What is right is not always popular.)
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To: mtbopfuyn
People of normal conscience and emotion do not like to believe that there are bad seeds among us. The evidence is that psychopaths may be as common as 4% of the population which places their numbers in the millions, just in the U.S.

Do not dismiss the "born psychopath" evidence without reading about it.

We simply cannot fathom people utterly without conscience WHICH IS EXACTLY THEIR STRENGTH IN MANIPULATING US. They tell the most audacious lies and perform unbelievable wickedness and most are not criminals bound for prison. They are prevalent in every walk of life and they are wreaking emotional havoc in a wide swath in the lives of millions of victims.

They are so manipulative they make their victims, friends and families believe the victim is at fault and even push their victims to the point of questioning their own sanity when, in fact, the psychopath is the extremely cunning and deceptive predator who ENJOYS and DELIGHTS in his/her predations. Their only goal is "winning" against their selected target.

A psychopath is not bound by any remorse or emotion therefore is easily able to do ANYTHING he/she wants. His/her personality defect is so alien to us we are reluctant to even imagine the horror of the truth about him/her.

20 posted on 02/02/2008 7:07:44 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: jwparkerjr

Frankly I would be surprised if this is anything more than just a silly prank gone bad, really bad. As bad as a prank can go. I’m sure kids in that school have seen the same treatment given a kid on TV and the laugh track made it seem hilarious....

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My thoughts exactly. This is the kind of junk that passes for humor on TV these days.


21 posted on 02/02/2008 7:09:13 AM PST by Bigg Red (Thank you, Duncan Hunter. Your loss is America's loss.)
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To: Pablo64

Well,as long as you left his pants on, it doesn’t sound like any malice.


22 posted on 02/02/2008 7:12:12 AM PST by Krankor (kROGER)
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To: mtbopfuyn

Bullies? An accident? Was anyone else involved?

Time will tell.

But for now, I offer up a prayer to the family.

In Jesus Name.


23 posted on 02/02/2008 7:14:58 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

“Bullies...”

At this point there haven’t been any other persons associated with this. There is a theory that he might have done this himself and then not been able to free himself. All speculation at the moment.


24 posted on 02/02/2008 7:16:41 AM PST by snarkybob (')
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To: Krankor
Yeah, they (and I honestly don't know who it was, I just came out and took some pictures) left his pants on. Not that kids weren't "pantsed" every now and then (usually during gym class), but in this case they needed his belt to loop over the hook on the flagpole.

I ran into the kid almost 15 years after it happened, and while he was kind of small then, he turned out to be a pretty big dude. It actually came up in conversation and he said he was laughing the whole time, so thankfully he took it well and no lasting emotional scars.

25 posted on 02/02/2008 7:20:15 AM PST by Pablo64 (What is popular is not always right. What is right is not always popular.)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

There is a book written long ago which espouses that mankind is flawed from birth. I think it’s called the bible.


26 posted on 02/02/2008 7:42:53 AM PST by crghill (Christianity...setting women free since 0 a.d.)
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To: mtbopfuyn

Oh, man. :*(
I was praying for the little guy to recover completely.

Prayers for his family and friends, and may the bully who did this be caught before another child dies! :*(


27 posted on 02/02/2008 8:20:23 AM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud Rush Conservative! WIN, FRED, WIN!!!)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
The evidence is that psychopaths may be as common as 4% of the population which places their numbers in the millions, just in the U.S.

You are absolutely right. Sociopaths are especially abundant in politics (think Hill & Bill), the legal profession (hm..Hill & Bill again, plus John Edwards and thousands of others), the abortion racket, and are even found in law enforcement. As for "the most audacious lies," the 9/11 truther movement comes to mind.

I suggest you google "gang stalking" or "terrorist stalking in America." You will find some flaky stuff, but there can be no doubt any more that sociopathic sadists now operate in organized gangs which may target and torment victims, often to the point of suicide, for years and years. It's the ultimate in "high-tech lynching." I know; I'm a victim.

28 posted on 02/02/2008 8:40:25 AM PST by hellbender
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To: jwparkerjr
a silly prank

Hanging someone from a hook with his pants down is a "prank"?

You need to see a shrink.

It's a depraved act of violence.

29 posted on 02/02/2008 8:43:31 AM PST by Regulator
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To: kinoxi

This makes me sick to my stomach. Someone did this to this poor child. If it was other kids, they need to be charged with murder.


30 posted on 02/02/2008 8:44:45 AM PST by Boagenes (I'm your huckleberry, that's just my game.)
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To: Pablo64

I agree. Kids do some dumb things. Wayyyyy back when I was in the fifth grade in Clyde Texas, we kids were playing chase/catch. The boys caught me and took me over to the next door kids house and tied my hands behind my back, tied a rope around my neck that was tied to the ceiling in the garage and stood me on a bucket. His mom, who had just had a baby and was feeling poorly, nearly had a heart attack when she came into the garage. Game over and I can’t remember if he was ever allowed to play chase/catch again.

Hey, Dusty Rhodes are you still in trouble?


31 posted on 02/02/2008 8:45:21 AM PST by gopheraj
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To: mtbopfuyn

Didn’t something similar to this happen to a child last year?


32 posted on 02/02/2008 8:46:31 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: I still care
I like the way they put “charter school” up there. I don’t remember the last time I saw the word “public school” like that.

Likewise, had it been a public school, there would have been many posts saying this is an example of our failed public schools.

33 posted on 02/02/2008 8:48:36 AM PST by Doe Eyes
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To: Boagenes

It makes me sick as well. I try to limit my comments for that reason. The seven year old’s pants were off and he was hanging. No punishment is too severe here.


34 posted on 02/02/2008 8:50:06 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: mtbopfuyn

Agreed. Unfortunately, it is a different world we live in today. One call from your kid, a friend, a nosy neighbor or suspicious school staff and the Gov invites itself into your home. They know better than you how to raise up a child. Didn’t you get the memo?


35 posted on 02/02/2008 8:56:44 AM PST by stentorian conservative
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To: gopheraj
It's amazing how many dumb things we did as a kid. While some of it was dangerous, most of the time it was not malicious.

Now fess up, are you talking the Dusty Rhodes (aka, Virgil Riley Runnels, Jr.), as in Dusty Rhodes and Dick Murdoch, the Texas Outlaws?

36 posted on 02/02/2008 9:10:26 AM PST by Pablo64 (What is popular is not always right. What is right is not always popular.)
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To: Pablo64

LOL No, his real name was Dusty Rhodes. Blonde hair like snow.


37 posted on 02/02/2008 9:26:07 AM PST by gopheraj
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To: gopheraj

Well, it’s still a good story. I’m a fan of the old-time wrestlers, so the name piqued my interest.


38 posted on 02/02/2008 9:27:58 AM PST by Pablo64 (What is popular is not always right. What is right is not always popular.)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

Very scary that we may have a whole lot of little Richard Specks runnng around loose.


39 posted on 02/02/2008 9:30:58 AM PST by Palladin (McCain is Hillary Lite.)
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To: Wilderness Conservative
And still there are those who say bullying and being bullied is a normal part of childhood and growing up

It was; but we were never prevented from fighting back. Now both the perpetrator and the victim get punished, and often enough it's the original victim who gets the worst of it. Liberal teachers are a menace to your children.

40 posted on 02/02/2008 10:27:59 AM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Regulator
You obviously never attended a elite private school. One of the commonest pranks in middle school is ‘shanking’, the practice of coming up behind someone and pulling his pants down around his ankles, leaving him standing there in hall during class change in his underwear,scurrying to get his pants back on.

You’re right on one thing though, I do need to see a shrink. Maybe he could help me work through the personality defect that would force me to stick my foot up your smart ass if you said this to me in person.

41 posted on 02/02/2008 10:43:51 AM PST by jwparkerjr (Sigh . . .)
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To: jwparkerjr
Shanking is one thing, hanging someone by the neck is entirely another.

As for the "elite private school" snobbery, well, it may not have been "elite" in your terms, but it was at least private. And no one ever got away with a stunt like that on me. Or they ended up bloody.

As for the pathetic threat, go ahead and try it, little boy. See how far you get.

Someone murdered the kid and they should die for that.

42 posted on 02/02/2008 11:14:31 AM PST by Regulator
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
They are so manipulative they make their victims, friends and families believe the victim is at fault and even push their victims to the point of questioning their own sanity when, in fact, the psychopath is the extremely cunning and deceptive predator who ENJOYS and DELIGHTS in his/her predations. Their only goal is "winning" against their selected target.

A psychopath is not bound by any remorse or emotion therefore is easily able to do ANYTHING he/she wants. His/her personality defect is so alien to us we are reluctant to even imagine the horror of the truth about him/her.

Good God I had a girlfriend like that. We've been broken up for over ten years and I still think that she put some kind of 'spell' on me. This bitch was sweet and innocent to my friends and acquaintances of mine and made it seem like I was the jerk in the relationship when she was the one screwing her boss behind my back and denying anything was going on even though I found tons of evidence to the contrary.

43 posted on 02/04/2008 5:33:02 AM PST by Looking4Truth (If you don't know your rights you don't have any.)
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