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Kenya violence: 'We waited, now we'll chop them to bits'
Times Online ^ | 2-2-08 | Jon Swain

Posted on 02/02/2008 4:19:01 PM PST by SJackson

THE tragedy of Kenya’s violence was etched on the face of James Kamau, a softly spoken 43-year-old biology teacher, as he steeled himself to search Nakuru city mortuary for his murdered brother-in-law this weekend.

“We are glimpsing an enormity of evil in Kenya larger than any of us imagined,” he said. “Look how they have destroyed our people.”

He flinched in a moment of shock as he spotted a familiar pair of brown shoes on the feet of a man burnt beyond recognition who was lying on the floor. “It is Eliud,” he said, turning away in sorrow and comforting his sister.

Local legend has it that the steam rising from the bottom consists of the souls of Masai warriors who were hurled into the crater after a battle over land and are now trying to reach heaven. The volcano was a top tourist attraction in the Rift Valley until 10 days ago, when the violence that began over a disputed presidential election on December 27 spread to the streets of Nakuru.

Chaos reigned in and around the town, Kenya’s fourth largest, as tribal gangs fought with knives, pangas, stones and poisoned arrows. After more than 60 people had died, the police imposed a dusk-to-dawn curfew. The tourists left and have not come back.

Kamau and other relatives of the dead milling before the gates of the mortuary said they believed worse bloodshed was to come. The violence had exploded after members of the opposition Orange Democratic Movement (ODM) claimed the government had rigged the elections to prevent their leader, Raila Odinga, 63, replacing Mwai Kibaki, the 76-year-old president.

Immediately after the re-election of Kibaki, the violence was directed against his tribe, the Kikuyu, whose political and economic domination of Kenya since independence in 1963 has exposed them to widespread resentment. But in the past week Kikuyus have hit back at Luos, Luhyas, Kalenjin and other tribes supporting Odinga, who is himself a Luo.

The ODM said the violence was a spontaneous surge of anger at Kibaki’s electoral “fraud”, but activists on both sides fanned the flames of tribal resentment and on Wednesday, after nearly 1,000 people had been killed and 250,000 had been made homeless, the Daily Nation newspaper said the fear of civil war was not farfetched. Jendayi Frazer, the American assistant secretary of state for Africa, called the violence “clear ethnic cleansing”.

A glimmer of hope emerged late on Friday when Kofi Annan, the former United Nations secretary-general who is mediating, announced that the government and opposition had agreed a plan to end the crisis. Annan said measures would be introduced in a week to 10 days to stop the violence. But 27 more people were killed and a church burnt yesterday.

In the traumatised strife-torn Rift Valley, many Kikuyus driven from their homes said it was too late to stop the tribal hatred. “It is impossible to live together. There will be more blood. It cannot stop now,” said Robert Njoroge, 55, who came to the mortuary to collect the body of his nephew, who had been murdered by the Kalenjin.

The reason why the Rift Valley has become the epicentre of the conflict is rooted in history. Once the homeland of the Kalenjin and Masai, much of it was seized early last century by the British, who turned it into a colonial paradise of farms and Tudor-style mansions. Instead of being returned to those tribes on independence, the farmland was bought by Kikuyus, the tribe of Jomo Kenyatta, Kenya’s first president.

Although the constitution granted Kenyans of any tribe the right to live anywhere in the country, the spread of Kikuyus across the Rift Valley triggered bitterness and grievances.

Many Kikuyus believe that the violence was planned, regardless of the election result. They have accused William Ruto, one of Odinga’s top aides, who is a Kalenjin and an MP in Eldoret, one of the flashpoints in the Rift Valley, of a preelection hate speech.

“He has become the warlord of the Rift Valley,” said a man called Simon. “He poisoned the Kalenjin against the Kikuyu.”

Kamau said his Kalenjin neighbour, a banker, had warned him two weeks before the election to expect trouble. He said he had heard hate speeches broadcast on the local Kalenjin radio station and had been told that Kalenjin youths were being indoctrinated against the Kikuyu while undergoing circumcision in December as a rite of passage.

“There are no Kikuyus who have been left on their farms in the Rift Valley,” said Kamau, who was burnt out of his Eldoret home with his wife and three children and now lives in a refugee camp.

“They have destroyed all our property. They think the Rift Valley is theirs and no other tribe should be there. That is what they were told during the circumcision ceremonies.”

So powerful was the rhetoric that it seemed to have infected even educated Kalenjins. After being burnt out of his home, one senior figure at Moi University in Eldoret was warned last week that his colleagues were hunting for him and he should not return if he wanted to stay alive.

The growing and seemingly uncontrollable tribal violence has led to inevitable comparisons to Rwanda, where the 1994 geno-cide claimed nearly 1m lives. But Kenya is not Rwanda. It has 42 tribes, where Rwanda had only two, one of which made up 90% of the population. The brutal ethnic cleansing that divided Bosnia is a fairer analogy.

To combat the Kalenjin attacks, the Kikuyu in the Rift Valley have resurrected a murderous criminal gang notorious for beheading its victims. The gang, called the Mungiki, was established during elections in the 1990s to counter violence by Kalenjin gangs but was later outlawed. Last year the police reportedly killed 500 Mungiki in a crackdown.

According to a priest in Nakuru, Mungiki gangs were on the prowl last week, under police protection and looking for members of other tribes. One Kikuyu youth who would call himself only John described how he was forced to join a gang which beheaded 15 Kalenjin and Luos.

“They killed one man armed with a club and stones. He could not answer a question put to him in Kikuyu so they forced him to the ground and cut off his head. Next we met a big man sharpening two pangas. They cut him so fast that his mouth was still moving when they lifted up his head on the end of a panga.”

His story fitted word from other Kikuyus that a strategy had been devised to wait for most Kikuyus to be in places of safety before striking back against the Kalenjin. “We kept quiet for a month,” said one Kikuyu who was thirsting for vengeance.

“If we had acted before our people were safe, the Kalenjin would have killed them. Now we will chop them in pieces. Raila and Ruto will cry.”

Tribal divisions

* Kenya's main tribes are the Kikuyu 20%, Luo 14%, Luhya 13%, Kalenjin 11% * President Kibaki is Kikuyu; Odinga is Luo * The Kalenjin in the Rift Valley resent Kikuyu land purchases there

At least Eliud, 40, could now be buried. Kamau had feared when he could not find him that his brother-in-law had been thrown - like other victims of the violence - into the 1,600ft-deep crater of the dormant Menengai volcano five miles from the city centre. There he would have been devoured by wild animals.


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1 posted on 02/02/2008 4:19:03 PM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson

I notice that the word “Islam” is never mentioned in this article. Selective blindness.


2 posted on 02/02/2008 4:26:07 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SJackson

We support a missionary and his family that have recently returned from Kenya ... bottom line ... it is bad ... very bad ... downright evil, over there.


3 posted on 02/02/2008 4:28:08 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: SJackson

I thought Minister Obama had control of his fellow Muslims and kinfolk over there. If he’s elected Prez, I’m sure he’ll bring that same expert touch to America’s inner cities.


4 posted on 02/02/2008 4:40:26 PM PST by lapster
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To: lapster

Refresh my memory. Kenya is a Moslem country?


5 posted on 02/02/2008 4:43:14 PM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: SJackson

Ah, the wondrous richness that other cultures have to offer us, if only we could set aside our xenophobic bigotry and accept it and even embrace it without judgment or criticism.


6 posted on 02/02/2008 4:45:57 PM PST by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: SJackson

Africa is shaping up as the main battlefield.


7 posted on 02/02/2008 4:47:23 PM PST by RightWhale (oil--the world currency)
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To: Maine Mariner

Islam is the oldest of the great religions in Kenya, since it began to spread with the arrival of the first Arabs from the year 500 A.D. Today, the islamic community in Kenya comprises 5-30% of the population, mainly at the Swahili Indian Ocean coast, but also in the north and northeast regions inhabited by Somalis, where mosques coexist with churches. Most of Kenyan muslims are sunnites. The shiite minority is represented mainly by Kenyans of Pakistani origin whose grandparents arrived to the coast during the change of the century to work in the construction of the Nairobi-Mombasa railway, the great communication artery around which Kenya was formed. The moderate ismailite branch, led by Aga Khan, also has some adepts. Fundamentalism is aggregated around the Islamic Party of Kenya, based on the coast and still a minority.


8 posted on 02/02/2008 4:51:23 PM PST by EBH ( J. Galt for President)
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To: knarf
bottom line ... it is bad ... very bad ... downright evil, over there.

And since the British left, this surprises ...ah, who?

9 posted on 02/02/2008 4:52:01 PM PST by MrPiper
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To: MrPiper

This is all George Bush’s fault. If Tony Blair were still in power the Brits would still be in Kenya and take care of this.


10 posted on 02/02/2008 4:56:10 PM PST by Oldexpat
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To: SJackson
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11 posted on 02/02/2008 5:04:46 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©ģ)
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To: lapster
I thought Minister Obama had control of his fellow Muslims and kinfolk over there.

Barack Obama's Cousin Leads Opposition In Violent Kenya -- Kenyan opposition leader Raila Odinga and Barack Obama are cousins.

12 posted on 02/02/2008 5:05:31 PM PST by PapaBear3625
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To: SJackson

Raila Odinga - keep in mind that this guy claims to be Barak Obama’s first-cousin.


13 posted on 02/02/2008 5:06:38 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: SJackson

Makes me wonder, how is it that a man whose father ia a Kenyan,a Lao, and a Muslim, will react if he is not made president?

http://www.themidnightsun.org/?p=1613

In the period from high school in Hawaii, to Columbia University and then to the streets of Chicago as a community organizer, Obama is the classic angry young black man, describing his world thusly:

“We were always playing on the white man’s court — by the white man’s rules. If the principal, or the coach, or a teacher wanted to spit in your face, he could, because he had the power and you didn’t. The only thing you could choose was withdrawal into a smaller and smaller coil of rage.”

Obama’s once described the white race as “that ghostly figure that haunted black dreams.”

“That hate hadn’t gone away,” he wrote, blaming “white people — some cruel, some ignorant, sometimes a single face, sometimes just a faceless image of a system claiming power over our lives.”

Just asking a question!


14 posted on 02/02/2008 5:07:17 PM PST by Bibman (Still American and still here.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Working link:

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/01/barak-obamas-cousin-leads-opposition-in.html


15 posted on 02/02/2008 5:10:55 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: EBH

Islam wasn’t even in existence in 400 AD. Try again.


16 posted on 02/02/2008 5:13:33 PM PST by livius
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To: EBH

Sorry, I meant 500 AD. It wasn’t in existence then, either.


17 posted on 02/02/2008 5:14:33 PM PST by livius
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To: SJackson
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18 posted on 02/02/2008 5:23:19 PM PST by Lancer_N3502A
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To: Cicero
Islam is behind it. Tribalism is a problem in Kenya (Osama Obama is a Luo) and has been and no doubt will be for a long time. But this current slaughter started only when the Luo candidate lost, probably because he was a nutcase and had promised to proclaim Islam as the one true religion and install sharia in the country if he won, even though he is theoretically not Muslim. But then again, Osama Obama is theoretically not Muslim either, just a mixed-race American with an African obsession (look at the Farrakhan influenced "church" he goes to) who identifies with his father's Luo family. How totally cool and groovy.

The only thing that puzzles me is why the press has lined up behind him. I seriously think he's going to be the Dem candidate (and would be the only thing that would make me vote for any of the current dismal GOP candidates) and I think we've got some major worries facing us.

19 posted on 02/02/2008 5:23:58 PM PST by livius
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To: DuncanWaring

thanks for the fix


20 posted on 02/02/2008 5:33:03 PM PST by PapaBear3625
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To: livius; All

In Kenya, you have Somalis there, as a small tribe, but also, in the past, when there were wars over there, Ethiopia, Eritrea and Somalia, a lot of those fleeing those wars and strife went to Nairobi (probably people fleeing from Sudan and Uganda too). Now, though, it is Kenya that is the center of the turmoil.

This is a real mess and I find it hard to see how it can be fixed. The election surely was going to bring disagreement and trouble but I think few outside of the country thought it would be so extensive.


21 posted on 02/02/2008 5:33:49 PM PST by RGPII
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To: SJackson

Is this going to be another Rwanda? It seems these African nations take turns in going back to tribal evil and violence.


22 posted on 02/02/2008 5:45:05 PM PST by Palladin (McCain is Hillary Lite.)
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To: RGPII

I think that particular area has hit 10% Muslim. That’s the tipping point.

The Muslims have been working very hard there. We all seem to have forgotten the embassy bombings in Kenya, but that happened many years ago and was just an indication of what was going on. An indication Clinton ignored, of course, and one that I suspect Bush wants to ignore during his last year.

Of course, if Kenyan Muslim Luo Obama gets elected, who knows what will happen.


23 posted on 02/02/2008 5:46:21 PM PST by livius
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To: SJackson

In Africa tribalism = racism, only there instead of talking they kill each other.


24 posted on 02/02/2008 5:48:15 PM PST by fella (Is he al-taquiya or is he murtadd? Only his iman knows for sure.)
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To: SJackson

“Ethnic cleansing” is a modernism for old fashioned tribal war. Calling it ethnic cleansing somehow makes its practitioners part of the modern world and just like your neighbors in Niceville.


25 posted on 02/02/2008 5:50:40 PM PST by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: pax_et_bonum; Allegra; TheMom; Xenalyte; Eaker
Next we met a big man sharpening two pangas.

Double Panga Ping.

26 posted on 02/02/2008 5:50:55 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: livius

Exactly. Odinga promised to install sharia law if he was elected president, and the Muslims are furious that he lost. Unfortunately, Odinga is also Obama’s cousin, and Obama supports him.

Who do they think is burning all those churches, some of them with people still in them?

It’s partly tribal, but it’s also Muslims killing Christians, a common thing in many parts of Africa.

Kenya is next on the list for the Muslim expansion, from North to South. That’s one reason why we supported Ethiopa’s intervention against the Islamists in the Horn of Africa.


27 posted on 02/02/2008 5:53:38 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SJackson

I have read the novel, “Something of Value” at least 3 times. Even with the Mau Mau strife back then, the book made Nairobi seem like a civilized place.


28 posted on 02/02/2008 5:54:09 PM PST by saminfl (,/i)
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To: PapaBear3625

You’re welcome.


29 posted on 02/02/2008 6:01:30 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Cicero

Islam may not be a factor at all. Throughout subSaharan Africa some tribes have since time immemorial been the dominant tribes. The colonizers, as a tool to get and maintain control, deliberately allied with one of the lesser tribes and made them politically dominant by educating them and putting them in the administration. When the Mother Country packed up and left the old arrangements began to re-emerge or the perceived unnatural arrangements have been a source of tension and strife ever since. The Hutus in Rwanda were the Colonial favorites but the Tutsis were the dominant group. The perceived natural order never changed even as the dominant tribes were relegated to a lesser position for generations and the dominated ones were given the education and the rule. Kenya has lasted the longest before these “natural” forces broke out into warfare. The Kikuyu were the British proteges but the Masai were the dominant group. So long as the order is “inverted” there is stress that manifests in tribal war and the huge massacres of the Tutsis which set off the worst of the continuing warfare in the Eastern Congo. Note that Tutsis are mostly back in charge in most of Central Africa.


30 posted on 02/02/2008 6:02:41 PM PST by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: Cicero
I notice that the word “Islam” is never mentioned in this article. Selective blindness.

Islam and muslem are no longer an issue in this land of butchery. It has devolved way beyond any semblance of religion or civility.

The only difference between today's Africa and cavemen is the advancement of the available weaponry...........

31 posted on 02/02/2008 6:03:28 PM PST by Hot Tabasco ( Donít go messing with Smokey Taylor. He just bought a whole bunch of fresh ammo.)
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To: ThanhPhero
I don't see how allying themselves with lesser tribes would have been an effective means of gaining control. It would seem that would be much easier to do by supporting the dominant tribe.

Perhaps they had other reasons for supporting certain tribes.

32 posted on 02/02/2008 6:06:51 PM PST by yarddog (`)
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To: SJackson
"The tourists left and have not come back."

LOL! I wonder if any of the National Geographic crew captured their expressions during the egress.

33 posted on 02/02/2008 6:18:59 PM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: Bibman
“That hate hadn’t gone away,” he wrote, blaming “white people — some cruel, some ignorant, sometimes a single face, sometimes just a faceless image of a system claiming power over our lives.”

The hate hasn't gone away because some people like Obama won't let it. They keep nursing it and feeding it and making it grow.

Who needs someone like that as president.

34 posted on 02/02/2008 6:19:44 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Cicero; livius

I remember when there was a most wanted list of Terrorist and one of those guys was some b-stard from Kenya or something like that, cold blooded, let’s not forget those bombings and attempts in England have had Somalis and some of those others were Eritrean/Ethiopian Moslem types.


35 posted on 02/02/2008 6:50:36 PM PST by RGPII
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To: ThanhPhero

Kenya has been under attack by Islam for some time, and this is indeed related. Why do you think the Muslims destroyed our embassy there? And that was years ago, so they hate us and anybody they think representative of the non-Muslim West even more now.

When the first reports came out, the connections were discussed, but now they have disappeared because the press is trying to sanitize it. Tribalism is always alive and well in Africa, but why did these two suddenly wake up and decide they hated each other? Go back and read the earlier articles and see what Obama’s cousin (the losing candidate, whose tribe is now attacking the Kikuyu) pledged to the Muslims.


36 posted on 02/02/2008 6:53:14 PM PST by livius
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To: SJackson
Chaos reigned in and around the town, Kenya’s fourth largest, as tribal gangs fought with knives, pangas, stones and poisoned arrows. After more than 60 people had died, the police imposed a dusk-to-dawn curfew. The tourists left and have not come back.

I'm not surprised.

37 posted on 02/02/2008 6:58:13 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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To: ThanhPhero

I think Islam is a factor. I understand the problems of tribalism, and the old colonial habit of favoring one tribe over another. But it remains that in most of Africa the worst actors are either the old-style animists and the Muslims.

If Africa is ever going to rise above tribalism and killing, it will be because of the rapid spread of Christianity throughout the continent.

Christianity doesn’t suddenly make people perfect, but it does lead them in the right direction. Islam, I am sorry to say, increases resentments and leads them in the wrong direction.


38 posted on 02/02/2008 7:02:02 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SJackson
So powerful was the rhetoric that it seemed to have infected even educated Kalenjins.

It is a very popular delusion that "education" is a vaccine against evil.

It isn't.

39 posted on 02/02/2008 7:06:01 PM PST by Jim Noble (Trails of trouble, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: RGPII

I met one of the translators who worked on that trial. She had been married to a Kenyan and spoke Swahili (the language that a lot of the people in the embassy area spoke). Almost all of the people killed and injured were Kenyans, which of course the Muslims knew would happen.

Islam has always despised black Africa, because Arabs regard black Africans as their legitimate prey and their natural born slaves. That’s what’s going on down there. The Arabs and Arab-influenced Islamic tribes and individuals are trying to kill or enslave the rest of Africa.


40 posted on 02/02/2008 7:09:05 PM PST by livius
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To: metmom

We are in agreement!


41 posted on 02/02/2008 7:31:06 PM PST by Bibman (Still American and still here.)
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To: Bibman
“A glimmer of hope emerged late on Friday when Kofi Annan, the former United Nations secretary-general who is mediating, announced that the government and opposition had agreed a plan to end the crisis. Annan said measures would be introduced in a week to 10 days to stop the violence. But 27 more people were killed and a church burnt yesterday”.

I read this past weekend that a church was harboring a 100 people while the violence was going on in Nakura. It was the only building standing in a a large area. I’m wondering if this was the church.

42 posted on 02/02/2008 7:39:26 PM PST by Witter
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To: Cicero

He may be attempting to fool us but he is only fooling himself. They know.


43 posted on 02/02/2008 7:59:57 PM PST by Domangart (editor and publisher)
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To: MrPiper
And since the British left, this surprises ...ah, who?

well, I think the hasty aftermath of colonialism hastened many of these conflicts. These people are in a state akin to Europe before the Romans --> tribes, tribal affiliations etc. It's as if the Romans conquered the Celts in Britannia and then, before uniting them as one people, they left. This is of course exacerbated by the idea of the modern nation state and modern economies: both of which were centuries ahead of Sub-saharan civilisations.

The only cure to Africa's ills are: 1. break up all the states that are there now south of the Sahara: these boundaries are in any case artificial, colonial boundaries that don't understand tribal lines, 2. Set up an Africa federation (I don't expect the Berber and ARab states or Ethiopia to join), 3. let the tribes have their mini-counties all within this federation

The economics for this federation would, as history shows be run by peoples from China, India, Pakistan, France, England etc.
44 posted on 02/03/2008 12:00:38 AM PST by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: Bibman

gezuss

how far we have fallen in such a short time

how weak we have become


45 posted on 02/03/2008 12:04:08 AM PST by wardaddy (Political Correctness is to Western Culture what the Aids virus is to the cake community)
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To: yarddog

Think of it — you are a new student with an unruly class — do you ally yourself with the top bully (who doesn’t need or want allies?) or with the second-best bully? With the second-best and you combined, you can now take the top spot.


46 posted on 02/03/2008 12:06:39 AM PST by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: SJackson

Africa...tribalism...forget it.

Re-Colonize it or write it off.


47 posted on 02/03/2008 12:14:06 AM PST by Tainan (Talk is cheap. Silence is golden. All I got is brass...lotsa brass.)
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To: Bibman
Just asking a question!

Been asking myself the same question.

I'm also asking why more people don't know about this purported kinship. Open and transparent government. Our media is silent, and we read about it in the foreign press until US bloggers pick it up. Still the American people except trackers are clueless.

Unless anyone can point me to a MSM outlet that ran or broadcast it, including talk radio.

The BBC article was more vague, this one pins the source of the initiation of the violence on one close to Odinga which leads me to believe he might have wanted it to go down like it has.

No way do I believe Obama would have wanted that to happen in Kenya, but I think he is helplessly monitoring it closely. Neither side is amenable to mediation.

48 posted on 02/03/2008 12:23:22 AM PST by Aliska
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To: livius

Islam is a long established religion in Kenya. The post doesn’t claim what you are reading into it. It says Arabs, not muslims arrival from 500. Arabs in fact traded in spices and slaves from around the 1st century AD.

Mosques were being built in this part of East Africa before they were constructed in parts of what is now the Middle East. Falola, Key Events in African History, pp. 83-84.

Europeans, Portuguese to be correct, didn’t arrive until the early 1700’s. Long after islam had been established by the omani arabs.


49 posted on 02/03/2008 4:22:21 AM PST by EBH ( J. Galt for President)
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To: Cicero

A tradition of Judaeo-Christianity in a society instills the habit of trust between people who are not of the same clan. It takes that, which is almost nonexistent outside of cultures with that Judaeo-Christian tradition, to be able to do business above basic subsistence level. China is not even really exempt from that. All of the large Chinese companies are either family or government operations.A sizable Christian minority in Buddhist/Confucian culture works because the Buddhists catch on from the Christians and run with it. It is happening that way in Viet Nam, too, with the added benefit that Christians were not allowed to work for the government or for foreign companies until last year. What happened was that Christians became the business class and many Buddhists were following the path when the government decided it had need of whatever it is that the Christians have that allows them to get along with unrelated people smoothly. It all doesn’t seem to be working so well in Africa yet. I guess it has to wait for the tribal warfare to work itself out.


50 posted on 02/03/2008 5:06:24 AM PST by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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