Skip to comments.If McCain Rolls it's Time to Cross-Over for Obama
Posted on 02/03/2008 8:14:01 AM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry
If John McCain rolls on Super Tuesday then it is time for all Freepers living in remaining primary states to cross-over in your respective primaries and vote for Obama on the dem ballot. It's our best opportunity to stop her because she will crush McCain in November.
Hillary Chavez vs Obama Carter. the choice is clear.
No way. Hillary has a 50% disapproval rating. That is a mountain to overcome in a general election.
hmm what is the calculus? easier to beat vs easier to live with if the dem wins
Why Obama? Hillary may be the most conservative candidate running.
I am very disappointed with talk radio and many of the conservative talking heads. Campaigning and opposing a candidate is one thing, and is part of healthy political discourse. However, refusing to support the nominee of your party during the general election, in a time of war no less, is disgraceful. We have been slamming the left for a few years now about their constant defeatism and negativity. We accuse them of wanting the US to fail, wanting the economy to slump, wanting the US to lose in Iraq, because doing so would hurt the GOP and help the liberal cause. Now, we have members of our own party doing essentially the same thing. We have Ann Coulter vowing to vote for Hillary Clinton, with the hope that she runs the country into the ground and mismangages the war so much it causes a massive backlash and returns the power to the conservatives. In essence, conservatives are willing to surrender the war in Iraq, and the war on terror based on a dislike for John McCain.
I am hoping that this is hot air, and that once McCain is officially the nominee they come to their senses and support him. The stakes are too high to play politics when we risk Hillary Clinton as Commander in Chief. As an OIF combat veteran, I plead with you to not allow this to happen. Too many have sacrificed to win this war to give it away because we don't agree with a man's position on global warming or campaign finance reform.
DID YOU GUYS SEE THIS ABOUT MCCAIN?
I’d rather poke my eyes out with a sharp stick than to walk into the polls and ask for a democrat ballot.
Do we prefer Obama to Clinton?
“Why Obama? Hillary may be the most conservative candidate running.”
Because Hillary is dangerous. Talk to Doug From Upland. She has power, is vicious and vindictive. Plus she made the off-hand comment that she is not against garnering pay-checks directly to fund her Hillary Care nightmare.
Obama is polling better against McCain than Hillary.
Obama has zero shot at winning Florida in the general election. That’s a significant state that the GOP doesn’t have to defend.
Oh please... and has McCain made a commitment NOT to do this? Once the Democrats convince him again that it was HIS idea, McCain would do it in an instant. He's a dupe.
“No way. Hillary has a 50% disapproval rating. That is a mountain to overcome in a general election.”
Yes way! Remember, her husband never achieved 50% and he won twice. All she needs is for a 5% swing in people either voting third party or staying home because of hatred of McCain and she wins 47% to 44%. Trust me, the Dems are revved up and will have a massive turn-out.
There is no doubt that both Barak and Hilde are cut and run candidates, Mad John is many things, but he is no cut and run proponent.
BTW, there is an undercurrent of Support for Barack among Republicans, there could be many reasons for that support, but Hillary is the more easily defeatable.
Besides, as long as they are spending their mountain of cash beating each other up they can’t spend that 50 million beating our nominee up....
How is Obama better than Hildebeast?
Not in this lifetime...
Obama will be more difficult to defeat than Hillary. She’s polarizing and McCain has independent appeal. Obama is a new face, unlike Hillary, who has been in Washington since 1993.
The donks are winning either way because the right wing is split into three camps not two (based on the arguments on FR)
“Repubs” who will back mccain either because he’s not hillary or they dislike massachusetts,romney or mormons whatever.
“Pure conservatives” that refuse to vote for the lesser of 4 evils and will write in fred,duncan or newt or stay home.
“Gop conservatives” that are happy to back Mitt till the end.
So please tell me why Obama would be better than Hillary. Either one stinks (even if Obama is clean). Either one will be a disaster. My personal feeling is go ahead and vote for the Republican and let the Dimwits destroy each other.
I have always said you get what you want. And I think this country needs a good shaking up. As bad as it sounds think what would happen to the Democrats in 2012 if they are in power in 2008 (which is probably going to happen) and the economy really, really crashes and we have 3,000 dead from a terrorist attack, and immigration gets completely out of control. I know that is a doomsday thinking but many times the only way you know when something needs to be corrected is when it is really bad. Not like today with all the wishful thinking about a recession or safe from terrorists or we need immigrants. We need to really be impacted by these things for the population to do something about it.
One of my best examples is the space race. We were so damn complacent in our belief that we were God’s gift to space exploration that when Sputnik went up it sent our country into deep despair. Then we finally woke up and decided to do something about it.
I think the same is with the socialistic thinking that is starting to grow here. Until it is completely in power will the population finally decide to do something about it. So I say bring it on because the Republicans have no candidate now who is any better than the Democrats. So we might as well be able to blame the Democrats when it happens.
I will never vote for a flaming liberal. If McCain is the nominee, I will vote for him without hesitation.
“How is Obama better than Hildebeast?”
Granted, he is just as liberal, if not more so than Hillary. But, he doesn’t have an axe to grind, the FBI files and a Saul Alinsky passion to turn this country socialist. Plus, the Bradley Effect will make him unelectable - especially if there is a major terrorist flare-up between now and November.
If McCain rolls the Republican Party may as well strike the tents.
Not buying it anymore, Earthdweller. What do you say to the 10%-25% or more of our military that vote Democrat?
Plus her hubby bombed a christian country, an aspirin factory, sold our most precious secrets,and let bin laden go 2-3 times.
A VOTE FOR MCCAIN IS A VOTE FOR A LIBERAL!!!
They are the young ones...LOL.
Hillary is the easiest to beat by far........
Romney has two things against him: He’s a conservative in a liberal year. He’s a Mormon.
I frankly don’t think it would be easy for Romney to win the Presidency this time around. Maybe he could get elected VP, on a ticket with McCain. If McCain were smart, he’d bury the hatchet and put him on the ticket like Reagan put Bush on the ticket in 1980. I’m not sure that McCain is that smart, though, and he tends to bear a grudge over everything. He takes everything personally.
“I will never vote for a flaming liberal. If McCain is the nominee, I will vote for him without hesitation.”
I’m not talking about the general election in November. I’m talking about stopping Hillary in the primaries and forcing her to fight and spend money all the way to the convention. If she’s in a dog-fight with Obama all the way to Denver, she won’t be able to do to McCain what Bill did to Dole in `96.
It’s called “taking one for the team!”
I'm not sure about his supposed lack of socialist passion, but you make a number of very good points. I'll concede the point.
“If McCain Rolls it’s Time to Cross-Over for Obama”
BULL-FEATHERS! If I’m not going to vote for OUR leftist, I’m surely not going to vote for THEIRS!
My apologies, should have read the whole thing AFTER coffee, not before.
I don’t want two liberals on the ticket! Lord have mercy. He needs to get Duncan Hunter.
In that case I’ll vote write in.
Even if he picks Duncan Hunter?
And there is no real evidence to support the contention that hillary will cut and run.
Some women have a nasty mean streak in them and she is one of them.
Now, I know that she will say anything to be elected - big surprise - but Iraq is already there, and the hard work is already done.
She can easily spin that to her advantage and claim all of the credit.
No way will I ever support McCain.
I wouldn’t support him if he was the last republican in America.
And, I am glad that this is not a Republican forum.
If the Republicans must nominate a RINO and lose the election, let it be to Hillary Clinton. At least she is guaranteed to create a conservative backlash that allows Republicans to take back Congress and result in the election of a conservative in 2012.
“In that case Ill vote write in.”
I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT NOVEMBER! All I am saying is that if you have a primary in your state after February 5th and McCain has wrapped up the GOP nomination, then make your PRIMARY ELECTION vote count for conservatives by crossing over and making mischief for Hillary by voting for Obama.
Either vote McCain in November or don’t vote for McCain in November. That’s not the topic of this thread.
I lost faith in Duncan Hunter when he endorsed Huckabee.
Um, Obama is politically identical to Hillary and more likable. Why would we want him to be the dem candidate?
No that would be Romney, I will be impossible for him to pander to every American voter. Although he will try I am sure.
A VOTE FOR MCCAIN IS A VOTE FOR A LIBERAL!!!
Hispanics will vote for any Republican over Obama. The Hispanic majority will not vote for a Black guy for President. There is a lot of animosity the Press never talks about. The inner city Hispanic gangs in particular target Blacks. No love lost.
Obama would be easy to be beat. Extremely so.
“The dumbest thing I have ever heard. Who wants Obama as the Democratic nominee when he far more capable winning the Presidency and serving eight years?”
Without using confrontational words, I disagree with you. Obama is unelectable. I’ll leave it at that.
I WILL NOT vote for any ticket that includes someone that has referred to ME and my loved ones as bigots, racists and lazy.
Juan can go to hell.