American Life League: Do Not Remove Lauren’s Feeding Tube

Yahoo News ^ | 2/1/08 | American Life League

[Balding_Eagle]

Can you think of a reason that you should be on FreeRepulic or any other forum for that matter?

Yes.

[bjs1779]

Well, please explain, you fan of death.

[Mr. Silverback]

I would think this was a question where the legal and the moral were so close as to be indistinguishable. After all, courts award guardianship, but leaving an unfit guardian in place is certainly an immoral act, not merely a legal mistake.

I think leaving a guy who has tried to let someone die of sepsis in charge of their medical care is immoral and illegal, but if you want to call it a legal question, feel free.

[Balding_Eagle]

I have no doubt that nobody here would not think of you as a creep.

Go ahead, be bold, make it a declarative statement, I won't object.

[Balding_Eagle]

Why? We are a nation that tolerates, and even celibrates free speech, even unpopular speech.

In fact, FR was setup to entertain otherwise unpopular speech. Are you saying Jim was out of line to do that?

BTW, have I missed your answer to my post #175?

[bjs1779]

Go ahead, be bold, make it a declarative statement, I won't object.

So far, you haven't objected to murder, you have only excused it.

[Keith in Iowa]

Regarding your post - I could not agree with you more. But I come to that agreement from an unlikely viewpoint: 2 years ago, I was on life support...thank God I recovered, and part of that recovery included 7 months on a feeding tube. I now have in place explicit advance directives known to the people who have my medical decision-making power of attorney in the event I am ever incapacitated. I do not want the government deciding what happens to me any more than a flock of do-gooders.

[Balding_Eagle]

It was, and will continue to be, a legal question that determines whether someone lives or dies in those situtations. Provison has been in place for decades to avoid just what happened.

Is it moral to disregard the law? And the choice that Terry made through her inactions?

[bjs1779]

Since he mentioned your name

In fact, FR was setup to entertain otherwise unpopular speech. Are you saying Jim was out of line to do that?

Sure troll. We love to enterntain murder like you do.

[Balding_Eagle]

I’ve explained, never excused it.

Question 175?

[bjs1779]

I’ve explained, never excused it.

Now we are making progress. You say you can explain murder?

[Mr. Silverback]

What i really think is going on is deflection. Deflecting from the fact you’re only willing to provide $6 for a priceless life.

No, I told you I would be willing to provide money for your medical care through the Medicaid system. And I've repeatedly made it clear that I consider pulling a tube is murder, so if I were a whiner like yourself I could accuse you of deflecting the issue away from the murder aspect and over to the irrelevant monetary aspect. But I'm not, so I won't.

BTW, about that priceless life stuff: If you were on a tube, had left no living will and someone wanted to kill you, I would stand up for you. You wouldn't stand up for me in the same situation. In fact, as far as I can tell, you'd breathe a sigh of relief that I wouldn't cost Medicaid any more money. Then you'd probably ask Freepers defending my life to send in money for my care, not so I'd actually get care, but in order to try and make them look like hypocrites. So please, don't bother with the silly attempt at a guilt trip.

Also, that’s a confusing question.It should seem obvious that I don’t bill the company, but you’ll have to explain what the obscure point is you’re trying to make.

Wait...you mean, you don't consider a Big Mac to be medical care? A drink is not medical care? How very odd...could it be (I'm just spitballing here) that those things are basic sustenance and not extraordinary measures?

[Mr. Silverback]

Because we are a nation of laws, that's why. Seems obvious.

Really? So, should a half-remembered decade-old conversation have the force of a living will, as it did in the Schiavo case? Is that the law we are bound to?

[Mr. Silverback]

BTW, have I missed your answer to my post #175?

Offer him $60,000 reichsmarks.

[Balding_Eagle]

I can explain following the laws as they exist.

[Mr. Silverback]

Is it moral to disregard the law? And the choice that Terry made through her inactions?

What aspect of the law was the judge following when he left a clearly unfit guardian in charge of her case? Is it your contention that a person should be stuck with an unfit guardian if they failed to fill out certain paperwork?

[Balding_Eagle]

Really? So, should a half-remembered decade-old conversation have the force of a living will, as it did in the Schiavo case? Is that the law we are bound to?

That is for a court to decide. Don't like it? Legally binding provision has been made for a different outcome.

Why didn't Terry take advantage of those provisions?

[Mr. Silverback]

Oops! I put the dollar sign in front of 60,000 reichsmarks.

[Mr. Silverback]

Answer my guardianship question. What part of the law was the judge following when he left a clearly unfit guaridan in charge?

[bjs1779]

I can explain following the laws as they exist.

What following laws? You must of forgot something.