Will you allow the McCain amnesty to be endorsed in Tuesday's elections?

Sgt Grit Marine Forums ^ | Feb. 2, 2008 | Roy Beck

[Mojave]

Romney has actually done something against illegal immigration.

Docked their paycheck?

[tanaka]

just look at his record. NumbersUSA says it is “good”. He vetoed several pro-amnesty bills and set up a collaboration between local LE and feds.

If you want 100% guarantee of Amnesty, just vote for Juan McAmnesty.

[AuntB]

The John McCain Truth Files

Capitol Hill staffers rate their bosses.
McCain got no glory from those who work with him.
“Every election year we survey top aides on both sides of the aisle—administrative assistants, press secretaries, legislative directors, and chiefs of committee staffs—to get their up-close and personal, and anonymous, views. While there may be lots of partisan backbiting among congress members, their staffers seem far more capable of putting politics aside and making honest judgments. It wasn’t unusual for aides in both parties to name one of their own as “spineless” or give the “workhorse” nod to someone across the aisle. “

Worst Follower 2. John McCain (R-Ariz.) Show Horse 2. John McCain (R-Ariz.) Hottest Temper 2. John McCain (R-Ariz.) known to snap at staff when the cameras are off
http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/mediapolitics/1666.html

McCain’s the candidate of amnesty for illegal aliens.
McCain supports embryonic stem-cell research.
McCain has said “I would not support repeal of Roe vs. Wade”.
McCain opposed the Bush tax cuts, and refuses to sign the “No New Taxes” pledge.
McCain supports legislation that would increase taxes on energy.
McCain was the ring-leader of the Senate “Gang of 14”, which kept the then Senate Republican leadership from ending the ability of Democrats to filibuster Bush’s judicial nominees.
McCain supports legislation to grant due-process rights to terrorists.
McCain sponsored the inept legislation which restricts free-speech rights of those involved
in the political process, (the McCain/Feingold bill)
McCain called evangelical-conservatives an “evil influence” on the Republican Party.
McCain - member of the Keating 5 that caused a bipartisan scandal during the S&L meltdown.
McCain had a recall election ran against him by the conservatives in Arizona.
McCain blocked the investigation into whether Viet Nam and the Soviets were still holding over 600 of our missing POWs in 1990.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1958293/posts?page=52#52

Latest (Jan. 2008) OVERALL Presidential Candidate Ratings On IMMIGRATION
How Good Are The Promises of Each Candidate to PROTECT Workers, Communities and Taxpayers FROM ILLEGAL & OVER-IMMIGRATION?

VERY GOOD# Mitt Romney (28 points)
GOOD# RON PAUL(24 points) # MIKE HUCKABEE(24 points)
POOR# RUDY GIULIANI(7 points)
BAD# JOHN McCAIN (5 points) # JOHN EDWARDS (5 points) # HILLARY CLINTON (4 points) # BARACK OBAMA (4 points)

Please note that our ratings do NOT amount to endorsements. Nor do they convey anything about the character, the strength or any other positions about the candidates. http://www.betterimmigration.com/candidates/2006/prez2008.html

THE McCAIN WAY - ATTACK REPUBLICANS

Defending His Amnesty Bill, “Presidential hopeful John McCain - who has been dogged for years by questions about his volcanic temper - erupted in an angry, profanity-laced tirade at a fellow Republican senator, sources told The Post yesterday. In a heated dispute over immigration-law overhaul, McCain screamed, ‘F— you!’ at Texas Sen. John Cornyn, who had been raising concerns about the legislation. ‘This is chickens—stuff,’ McCain snapped at Cornyn, according to several people in the room off the Senate floor Thursday. ‘You’ve always been against this bill, and you’re just trying to derail it.’” (Charles Hurt, “Raising McCain,” New York Post, 5/19/07)

In 2000, Sen. McCain Ran An Attack Ad Comparing Then-Gov. George W. Bush To Bill Clinton. SEN. MCCAIN: “I guess it was bound to happen. Governor Bush’s campaign is getting desperate, with a negative ad about me. The fact is, I’ll use the surplus money to fix Social Security, cut your taxes and pay down the debt. Governor Bush uses all of the surplus for tax cuts, with not one new penny for Social Security or the debt. His ad twists the truth like Clinton. We’re all pretty tired of that. As president, I’ll be conservative and always tell you the truth. No matter what.” (McCain 2000, Campaign Ad, 2/9/00; www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHoXkCprdL4)

Sen. McCain Repeatedly Called Sen. Pete Domenici (R-NM) nams. “Why can’t McCain win the votes of his own colleagues? To explain, a Republican senator tells this story: at a GOP meeting last fall, McCain erupted out of the blue at the respected Budget Committee chairman, Pete Domenici, saying, ‘Only an a–hole would put together a budget like this.’ Offended, Domenici stood up and gave a dignified, restrained speech about how in all his years in the Senate, through many heated debates, no one had ever called him that. Another senator might have taken the moment to check his temper. But McCain went on: ‘I wouldn’t call you an a–hole unless you really were an a–hole.’ The Republican senator witnessing the scene had considered supporting McCain for president, but changed his mind. ‘I decided,’ the senator told Newsweek, ‘I didn’t want this guy anywhere near a trigger.’” (Evan Thomas, et al., “Senator Hothead,” Newsweek, 2/21/00)

Sen. McCain Had A Heated Exchange With Sen. Charles Grassley (R-IA) And Called Him A “F*cking Jerk.” “Senators are not used to having their intelligence or integrity challenged by another senator. ‘Are you calling me stupid?’ Sen. Chuck Grassley once inquired during a debate with McCain over the fate of the Vietnam MIAs, according to a source who was present. ‘No,’ replied McCain, ‘I’m calling you a f—ing jerk!” (Evan Thomas, et al., “Senator Hothead,” Newsweek, 2/21/00)

In 1995, Sen. McCain Had A “Scuffle” With 92-Year-Old Sen. Strom Thurmond (R-SC) On The Senate Floor. “In January 1995, McCain was midway through an opening statement at a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing when chairman Strom Thurmond asked, ‘Is the senator about through?’ McCain glared at Thurmond, thanked him for his ‘courtesy’ (translation: buzz off), and continued on. McCain later confronted Thurmond on the Senate floor. A scuffle ensued, and the two didn’t part friends.” (Harry Jaffe, “Senator Hothead,” The Washingtonian, 2/97)

Sen. McCain Attacked Christian Leaders And Republicans In A Blistering Speech During The 2000 Campaign. MCCAIN: “Unfortunately, Governor Bush is a Pat Robertson Republican who will lose to Al Gore. … The political tactics of division and slander are not our values… They are corrupting influences on religion and politics, and those who practice them in the name of religion or in the name of the Republican Party or in the name of America shame our faith, our party and our country. Neither party should be defined by pandering to the outer reaches of American politics and the agents of intolerance, whether they be Louis Farrakhan or Al Sharpton on the left, or Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell on the right.” (Sen. John McCain, Remarks, Virginia Beach, VA, 2/28/00)

Celebrating His First Senate Election In 1986, Sen. McCain Screamed At And Harassed A Young Volunteer. “It was election night 1986, John McCain had just been elected to the U.S. Senate for the first time. Even so, he was not in a good mood. McCain was yelling at the top of his lungs and poking the chest of a young volunteer who had set up a lectern that was too tall for the 5-foot-9 politician to be seen to advantage, according to a witness to the outburst. ‘Here this poor guy is thinking he has done a good job, and he gets a new butt ripped because McCain didn’t look good on television,’ Jon Hinz told a reporter Thursday. At the time, Hinz was executive director of the Arizona Republican Party. … ‘There were an awful lot of people in the room,’ Hinz recalled. ‘You’d have to stick cotton in your ears not to hear it. He (McCain) was screaming at him, and he was red in the face.’” (Kris Mayes and Charles Kelly, “Stories Surface On Senator’s Demeanor,” The Arizona Republic, 11/5/99)

Sen. McCain “Publicly Abused” Senator Richard Shelby (R-AL). “[McCain] noted his propensity for passion but insisted that he doesn’t ‘insult anybody or fly off the handle or anything like that.’ This is, quite simply, hogwash. McCain often insults people and flies off the handle…. There have been the many times McCain has called reporters ‘liars’ and ‘idiots’ when they have had the audacity to ask him unpleasant, but pertinent, questions. ” (Editorial, “There’s Something About McCain,” The Austin American-Statesman, 1/24/07)

Is it any wonder McCain has few endorsements from his Congressional piers? http://thehill.com/endorsements-2008.html

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[MrEdd]

McStain’s amnesty is the lesser of evils between it and Mitt’s willingness to capitulate on abortion and protecting children from potential predators for a buck. If the country has fallen to that, and will not stand against it then a tide of illegals is a peripheral concern not worth wasting precious energy on.

I’m opposed to McCain and Romney and only a little less opposed to Hucklebee.

I won’t vote for any of those, no matter who the opposition is.

[Mojave]

How is Romney’s plan to let the illegal aliens stay and to reward them with citizenship different from amnesty?

[Red_Devil 232]

If he would answer yes to Sen. Jeff Sessions' 15 questions, sign the document and return the original back to Sessions. Then submit to a "water boarding" to ascertain if he answered truthfully, I might believe him. Notice I said might!

This was sent and faxed to each of the candidates by Sessions. He requested them to answer and return it!

I. SECURE THE BORDER

1. Border Fence and National Guard: If elected President, will you secure the border, including completing construction of the 700 mile southern border fence required by the Secure Fence Act, constructing more miles if needed, and keeping the National Guard on the border until it is secured?

Yes or No

2. Border Prosecutions: If elected President, will you deter illegal entry by expanding the already successful Zero Tolerance Prosecution Policy (Operation Streamline) from 3 to all 20 border sectors, and support statutory mandatory minimums for the crimes of illegal entry, reentry, and reentry after deportation for any felony?

Yes or No

3. Control Visa Overstays: If elected President, will you give our immigration system integrity by completing the 10-year past due exit portion of The USVISIT (Visitor and Immigrant Status Indicator Technology) system and eliminate other weaknesses in the system so that future visa overstays can be identified?

Yes or No

II. END THE MAGNET AT THE WORKPLACE

4. Enforceable Employer Verification System: If elected President, will you end the jobs magnet by requiring all employers to use the electronic verification system to check the legal status of all employees, reduce fraud by decreasing the number of documents employers must accept to prove legal status, and will you offer cooperating employers a safe harbor?

Yes or No

5. Biometric ID Card For All Non-Citizens: If elected President, will you require a biometric (fingerprint encoded) identification card for all aliens authorized to work?

Yes or No

6. Eliminate Identity Theft: If elected President, will you increase security for legal workers by requiring social security earnings statements to list all employers reporting wages under an individual’s social security number so that fraudulent use of that number can be spotted and will you fight to keep using "no match notices" as evidence that employers knew they were employing an illegal alien under a social security number issued to someone else?

Yes or No

III. STATE AND LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT

7. Form Effective Partnerships: If elected President, will you form effective immigration enforcement partnerships with state and local law enforcement by clarifying their authority to enforce federal immigration laws, deputizing state and local officers in every state (through the 287(g) program), offering a basic training course for all state and local officers, and compensating state and local entities for immigration enforcement related expenses?

Yes or No

8. Federal Response To State And Local Arrests: If elected President, will you promptly evaluate the 27% of prisoners that are non-citizens so that illegal alien criminals can be processed and deported at the end of their sentences, and will you implement a mandatory federal response to state and local law enforcement when they apprehend an illegal alien for a DUI, child abuse crime, or any felony?

Yes or No

9. End Catch and Release: If elected President, will you put an end to the existing policy that allows illegal aliens caught inside our country to be released on bail after their arrest while they await their initial court appearance?

Yes or No

10. List Illegal Aliens In the NCIC: If elected President, will you immediately expand the National Crime Information Center’s (NCIC) Immigration Violators File to include: (A) aliens against whom a final order of removal has been issued; (B) aliens who have signed a voluntary departure agreement; (C) aliens who have overstayed their authorized period of stay; and (D) aliens whose visas have been revoked?

Yes or No

IV. DISCOURAGE SANCTUARIES

11. Deny Federal Funds: If elected President, will you encourage compliance with Federal law by implementing a reduction of at least 10% of discretionary federal grants and highway funds to cities, states, universities, and other entities that undermine Federal law by implementing sanctuary policies, issuing driver’s licenses to illegal aliens, or offering education benefits to illegal aliens (such as in-state tuition) that are not available to all legal residents and citizens?

Yes or No

12. Close Financial Loopholes: If elected President, will you rewrite the Treasury regulations to close the loophole that allows illegal aliens to open U.S. based bank accounts?

Yes or No

V. IMPROVE THE LEGAL IMMIGRATION PROCESS

13. Replace Visa Lottery and Chain Migration with Merit Based Immigration System: If elected President, will you eliminate the visa lottery program and change current preference categories that guarantee automatic entry for aging parents and extended family members and replace it with a system that fairly and objectively evaluates at least 50% of applicants based on characteristics such as education, skills, English ability, and age?

Yes or No

14. Pathway to Citizenship: If elected President, will you take a pathway to citizenship for illegal aliens off the table?

Yes or No

15. Seek Necessary Authority: If elected President, will you ask Congress for necessary laws or funds to execute these commitments?

Yes or No

By signing this document, I express to the American people that I understand the challenges of ending illegal immigration, I am personally committed to that goal, and I will take the actions reasonable and necessary to achieve it.

[tanaka]

“McStain’s amnesty is the lesser of evils between it and Mitt’s willingness to capitulate on abortion and protecting children from potential predators for a buck”

McCain is 100% guaranteed to push for Amnesty. Yeah, Romney will go around push mandatory abortion for everybody. Seriously, Romney is not only pro-life, but president has nothing to do with abortion (apart from SC nominations and even then it is questionable).

I hope you are happy with amnesty as McCain will give you that. Maybe 100 million new welfare-recipient/citizens voting for the Democratic Party will not bother you too much.

[citizen]

A President McCain will surely succeed in passing his amnesty and no borders programs where Bush was denied.

[levotb]

While Sen. Sessions’ 15-pt “yes or no” Immigration Questionnaire looks good on the surface, it’s what it DOESN’T cover that is to be concerned about!!

TWO items that are missing...Point 16 and 17:

16) START EXPEDITED REMOVAL OF ALL ILLEGAL ALIENS APPREHENDED IN THE U.S. [If they aren’t sure what “expedited removal” is all about, they should consult the expert, Juan Mann of vdare.com at deportaliens.com]

17) INCREASE ICE RAIDS ON BUSINESSES AND IN COMMUNITIES, PARTICULARLY IN LOS ANGELES COUNTY, CA AND HAVE TROOPS READY TO GO IN AND DRIVE OUT GANGS [CA is THE magnet state with its many freebies and good pay for illegals. Since the scumbag liberal movie star-governor and the Communist Legislature won’t do anything, the President has the duty to protect the nation and can call out the National Guard or send Army troops]

Sen. Sessions, while he helped stop the Amnesty movement in the Senate, is one of those “Secure the Border first!” folks. We want the Border secured, PERIOD!!

[End Times Crusader]

If there is one thing this primary has proven it is that American voters have rejected anti-immigrant extremism and embraced sensible immigration reform.

[puroresu]

I think I know why you call yourself End Times Crusader. In the Bible, God divided the peoples of the world after they tried to build the Tower of Babel. They were so wicked that they elevated themselves to the level of God Himself. The Bible also warns us that in the end times, there will be an attempt to unite the world's people under one big multicultural regime. All truly wicked political movements try to destroy external diversity, which is people living in their own cultures and lands and respecting boundaries. The forces of evil wish to replace this with internal diversity, which is all the races, ethnicities, and religions of the world united under an ever-expanding state.

Your name comes from the fact that you're seeking to bring about this ungodly system.

[puroresu]

People today have the attention span of a music video. This is why so many movies have no linear build-up, just a series of three second flashes. The sheeple (or as someone here called them, the puppetry) have been dumbed-down and ideologically hypnotized to be apathetic.

[gondramB]

>>Will you allow the McCain amnesty to be endorsed in Tuesday’s elections?<<

If that were the only issue I certainly would not vote for McCain. But there are many issues..

[gidget7]

I agree. That, and the fact that many people want only to win, no matter what the cost. When the fact is, if we are left with the current field of frontrunners, we, as Conservatives, have ALREADY LOST!

[AuntB]

“If that were the only issue I certainly would not vote for McCain. But there are many issues..”

Yes, there are many issues, and McCain shows his unstable self in all of them.

The man is unstable! Why on earth, knowing that, would you vote for him?

[gondramB]

Because Fred and Duncan are no longer in the race, Huckabee is much worse and I have less trust in Mitt than in McCain.

[Califreak]

Re: your graphic.

I don’t know how some of these guys can get up in the morning and look in the mirror without wanting to crawl into the toilet out of shame.

[arthurus]

If McC is elected in November I am thinking he will be the last Republican president, depending on how fast he can get the illegals amnestied and voting. Congressional Republicans will thin out, the House pretty quickly and the Senate will take a little longer.

[arthurus]

McCain is actually the best thing the Democrats could hope for as the next president. A Democrat amnesty may be difficult to get through Congress for a Democrat president. Mc Cain will bring most of the Republicans with him on it. An effective amnesty will add millions of new Democrat voters throughout the country quickly and an end to Republican political competitiveness.

[Uri’el-2012]

Ubet