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Vanity: Prayers and immigration advice needed for a South African lady
beaversmom ^ | February 3, 2008 | beaversmom

Posted on 02/03/2008 2:33:16 PM PST by beaversmom

We have an acquaintance from South Africa. She's in this country legally, but if her paperwork expires she will be forced to return to South Africa. Immigration is holding her up. Some of her specific situation I can't divulge to the forum at large, but over the years--she's been here 8 or 9 years now--she's paid $45,000 trying to get her greencard. She's a good person. She is skilled. She's a Christian. I don't know what it's going to take to get her over the hump, but if it doesn't get resolved by June, she'll have to probably go back. She won't have anymore resources to come back to the U.S. if she gets sent back. When so many people do it the wrong way, it's a shame that someone doing things legally will be penalized.


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KEYWORDS: legalimmigration

1 posted on 02/03/2008 2:33:19 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom
Here's some information from her e-mail that I can divulge:

One way to permanently live in the United States is to apply for a greencard through your employer. In my case, labor certification has been approved and I am coming to the end of the process. I only need to submit one last set of documents, have a full medical examination and have an interview at a United States Consulate. This was due to be submitted in September, 2007 and this is where the process has stopped.

I received a letter from the National Visa Center on July 1, 2007 pertaining to my green card application. I paid the Processing Fee Bill and have had no further communication. My current work-visa is valid until June 30, 2008. I am unable to apply for a work-visa extension as I would have exceeded the 6 year limit to work in the United States. This process was further delayed by two years due to 9/11.

2 posted on 02/03/2008 2:34:34 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: Brad's Gramma

ping


3 posted on 02/03/2008 2:34:55 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom
I have friends from South Africa. Same situation.
Appeal every decision and get an immigration attorney, there are those who will work pro-bono.
My friends finally got their green cards after appealing and overwhelming the INS with paper work.
I am not sure why your friends has paid 45K, my friends over the last two years only spent about 5K.
4 posted on 02/03/2008 2:38:03 PM PST by svcw (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: beaversmom

Here’s hoping it all works out.


5 posted on 02/03/2008 2:38:24 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: beaversmom

We have a friend in a similar situation. When she had to return to the Philippines three years ago, she has not been allowed to return. She, too, spent a good deal of money on immigration attorneys, all for nothing. She now has to have a job contract with an American company or school (she has a Masters in special ed) before they will allow her to return. Her son was born on Guam, an American territory, and is an American citizen, but that fact hasn’t helped her situation at all. All this to point out that if your friend’s visa runs out and she does have to leave the country, it’s a difficult process to get back in and get a green card. No wonder most people choose the illegal route.


6 posted on 02/03/2008 2:40:01 PM PST by ChocChipCookie (Homeschool like your kids' lives depend on it.)
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To: svcw

I’m not sure why the $45K either. This has been over a 9 year period though.


7 posted on 02/03/2008 2:40:05 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

The real question is why hasn’t her employer taken care of this?


8 posted on 02/03/2008 2:41:46 PM PST by svcw (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: beaversmom

Has she considered applying for Residency in England or Australia in case she fails to stay here?

England and Australia have a large South African immigrant community and it is easier to immigrate to England or Australia if you have skills than it is to stay in the US.


9 posted on 02/03/2008 2:45:33 PM PST by GOPGuide
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To: GOPGuide

I believe she has considered that. I think at one time she mentioned New Zealand and Canada.


10 posted on 02/03/2008 2:46:34 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: GOPGuide

P.S. She’s spent so much money though, I think if she gets sent back to South Africa, she would have to just stay there—at least for the forseeable future.


11 posted on 02/03/2008 2:47:48 PM PST by beaversmom
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I gotta make a run to the library for some tax forms and to PetSmart for some cat food, but keep the prayers and any advice coming. Thanks so much.


12 posted on 02/03/2008 2:49:05 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

Legal immigrants who try to obey the law are treated terribly by our government. I know legal immigrants who have jobs and are good people who face delays, legal fees etc. Yet the politicians are falling all over themselves telling illegal immigrants to disrespect and disobey our laws and promising them governments handouts.


13 posted on 02/03/2008 2:49:49 PM PST by detective
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To: beaversmom

Have her change her name to Gonzalas and just stay. She could probably get some fake, but good ID’s pretty cheaply.

My stepmother spent about 10 years doing it legally when others seem better off doing it illegally.


14 posted on 02/03/2008 2:50:43 PM PST by umgud
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To: detective

It’s completely backwards to the way things should be. It makes me want to scream.


15 posted on 02/03/2008 2:51:03 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

Have her change her name to *******ez or *******ez, etc. (Only half kidding).

I hope she gets some relief from this situation. This is exactly why people here illegally should not get put in front of the line.


16 posted on 02/03/2008 2:51:18 PM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: beaversmom

My friend cleared things up through her employer and a lawyer they (the hospital) had. She fought tooth and nail, too, every time she was held up. Seems like a malevolent bureaucracy with a lot of Petty Tyrants.


17 posted on 02/03/2008 2:51:26 PM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: beaversmom

I know stories like this, too. One is about a woman from Mexico who got married to an American and had two kids while she was waiting (legally). She did go back when her visa expired, but her husband finally found someone to intercede, and now she’s here legally.

They never imagined that a woman who was here on an employer sponsored visa, married an American and had two American kids would have such a hard time.

I do wonder why so many insist that we don’t need comprehensive immigration reform.

Good luck to this woman.


18 posted on 02/03/2008 3:05:57 PM PST by speekinout
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To: speekinout

Thanks for your story and well wishes. I do believe that we need reform but not the kind that puts illegals to the head of the line. I’m not saying you are suggesting that BTW.


19 posted on 02/03/2008 3:31:57 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: bigfootbob

ping


20 posted on 02/03/2008 3:46:11 PM PST by bigfootbob
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BTTT


21 posted on 02/03/2008 3:57:23 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

Of course I don’t want to put illegals at the front of the line. I do want a way to have people like these get a quick and fair hearing.

Although, I must say that many people advised the woman I spoke about to just stay on illegally. She probably wouldn’t have been caught, and her case would have been an argument for allowing illegals to get citizenship. I would have a lot of sympathy for someone in her circumstances who did choose to stay anyway.


22 posted on 02/03/2008 4:27:11 PM PST by speekinout
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To: beaversmom
First you have posted this before.

The situation says to me that the woman has made some sort of false asylum claim. Is that the case?

If it is she needs to go back home and get in line.

23 posted on 02/03/2008 4:55:27 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: beaversmom

I’m surprised. I have a friend who came to this country legally from Indonesia as a tourist about eight years ago. She now has a green card and is rapidly on her way to becoming a citizen. And believe me, she did not have $45K to throw at the problem. I spoke to the INS on her behalf. The process didn’t seem that onerous.


24 posted on 02/03/2008 9:28:11 PM PST by ottbmare
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To: org.whodat

Were you a hall monitor in a former life? I never posted a thread about this. I posted in one or two immigration threads about her.

Also, you are talking out your you know what. I think you have a tendency to jump to false conclusions based on knowing nothing about the sujbect. Where the heck do you get false asylum? What are you talking about?

You know nothing about her case. She has done things the legal way. The immigration system is severely messed up in this country.

This thread was posted in good faith to get prayers and advice. If you don’t have any to offer, keep your trap shut.


25 posted on 02/04/2008 4:18:40 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: ottbmare

Well if you read some of the other accounts on this thread it is not that easy for all. I don’t know why the difference, but some people face years of stumbling blocks. I know a lady from Eritrea. I don’t know all the facts about her becoming a citizen, but it doesn’t seem like she faced much of a problem either like your friend. It’s a big bureaucratic machine and I don’t claim to understand the inner workings and reasoning of it.


26 posted on 02/04/2008 4:53:26 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom
Joining with you and your friend in seeking the Lord’s wisdom and guidance through the maze called immigration.

“Be anxious for nothing, but in everything, by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known unto God, and the peace of God, which passes all understanding, will keep your hearts and minds in Christ Jesus.” Philippians 4:6

May you soon learn that all will be well.

27 posted on 02/04/2008 5:05:03 AM PST by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His word ...)
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To: beaversmom

If you are asking for prayers for this lady, she will have them! I don’t understand why the Lord is permitting these problems to arise for her, but we will pray that the Father of Miracles will do one of His miracles in this case.


28 posted on 02/04/2008 5:05:11 AM PST by ottbmare
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To: ottbmare; Pegita

Thank you both.


29 posted on 02/04/2008 5:06:28 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

Prayers sent. I have a friend going through a very similar situation. Spent most of his life here in the states, high school, college, etc. Trying to get permanent residence here, and it’s really hard when you follow the rules. And he insists on following the rules.


30 posted on 02/04/2008 5:15:16 AM PST by mysterio
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To: mysterio
And he insists on following the rules. As does our friend. She is so patient. She's really bent over backward to do whatever it takes but it's still not enough. The worry of it is starting to affect her health now. She's definitely running out of time. Thanks for your prayers. Best wishes and prayers for your friend too.
31 posted on 02/04/2008 5:24:15 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

Thank you. My friend would also have to leave at the end of June, so we are on a similar timeline.


32 posted on 02/04/2008 6:58:34 AM PST by mysterio
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To: beaversmom
This thread was posted in good faith to get prayers and advice. If you don’t have any to offer, keep your trap shut.

Given your foul mouth I'm sure your prayers are going to do wonders for her.

And for you to say she has done things the legal way is pure BS. I would bet she came here from south African country trying to claim the old genital mutilation con and it does not work anymore.

There is no other way to explain away the money. Tell her to go home.

33 posted on 02/04/2008 7:30:01 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: org.whodat
Given your foul mouth I'm sure your prayers are going to do wonders for her

Oh I've got the foul mouth. That was hardly foul and BTW you are the one that started crap with me.

And now you not only know all about this South African lady you have never met, you know what God thinks about my prayers. Amazing powers you have there.

BTW, she's of Dutch decent. Not too many people of Dutch/European decent into genital mutiliation.

Tell her to go home.

She's a fine Christian person and is an asset to this country. Lots better than some of my judgemental countrymen.

Maybe you should avoid my posts from now on. I don't enjoy interacting with people that like to start crap just to start crap. You seem to enjoy doing that.

34 posted on 02/04/2008 8:01:33 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: mysterio
My friend would also have to leave at the end of June, so we are on a similar timeline.

Wow, what a coincidence. What country is he from?

35 posted on 02/04/2008 8:02:37 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom
Maybe you should avoid my posts from now on. I don't enjoy interacting with people that like to start crap just to start crap. You seem to enjoy doing that.

Why don't you avoid your little silly vanities.

Your little friend lost her bogus claim now she is going to be deported, end of story. The courts have ruled against her. They need good Christian women, you statement, in Africa also.

36 posted on 02/04/2008 8:32:21 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: org.whodat

Why didn’t you avoid this thread if it was just a silly little vanity? Do you post nasty comments on other prayer threads?


37 posted on 02/04/2008 8:35:10 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: org.whodat

BTW no courts have ruled against her and she won’t be deported. If her papers expire, she will return to her country on her own. Once again you are talking out of your rectum. I think you have mental problems.


38 posted on 02/04/2008 8:39:25 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom
Do you post nasty comments on other prayer threads?

You do realize, moonbeam, that there is a religious section for your vanity posting.

39 posted on 02/04/2008 8:48:27 AM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: org.whodat

It would have been moved there if it wasn’t in the appropriate section. It’s not thread about religion, moonbeam back at ya.


40 posted on 02/04/2008 8:52:24 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

He’s from Greece.


41 posted on 02/04/2008 9:09:27 AM PST by mysterio
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To: org.whodat

Stay off of this thread!


42 posted on 02/04/2008 2:37:49 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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